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by hawaiian717
Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

Another thread in the forum is reporting that Swoop will start flying into San Diego non-stop from Edmonton. :-) 3x/week starting October 31. I would say this likely depends on Canada’s border reopening. If it hasn’t by then I doubt we’ll be seeing Swoop by then. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...

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by hawaiian717
Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TPE-ONT
Replies: 17
Views: 3666

Re: TPE-ONT

As noted by SurfAndSnow, ONT-TPE caters to the Asian American communities in that area who find ONT much more convenient than LAX. But with Taiwan’s current restrictions on entry and, at times, prohibition on international transit at TPE, passenger demand is very low. I suspect CI and BR’s services ...

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by hawaiian717
Sat May 29, 2021 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Air shutting down Ohana
Replies: 26
Views: 7782

Re: Hawaiian Air shutting down Ohana

Are you sure it wasn't a -30? HA had those for awhile as well. Yes. Last -30 was out of the HA fleet by 1984, while the Dash 7 was in the fleet until 1994. My DC-9 flight to MKK was after the Dash 7 left. HA DC-9 fleet: https://rzjets.net/aircraft/?parentid=604&typeid=98&frstatus=3 HA Dash ...

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by hawaiian717
Sat May 29, 2021 6:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Air shutting down Ohana
Replies: 26
Views: 7782

Re: Hawaiian Air shutting down Ohana

I think it was DC-9-10s that Hawaiian flew to MKK and LNY. The runways are too short for a DC-9-50. That’s possible when those were in the fleet. I wasn’t alive then. But I can personally confirm that the DC-9-50 was used as well, after the Dash-7 was retired from the fleet, having flown on it. Pre...

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by hawaiian717
Fri May 28, 2021 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Air shutting down Ohana
Replies: 26
Views: 7782

Re: Hawaiian Air shutting down Ohana

Man, I remember back in the day it was Island Air running DH6 and later DH8 into MKK & LNY from HNL & OGG. I believe HA had a once or twice a day D95 that did a round-robin HNL-MKK-LNY-HNL service. This was going on at least through the 90s. Now nothing more than PC-12 going into LNY & ...

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by hawaiian717
Thu May 27, 2021 2:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

I saw what looked like two DL A330s take off today about 1/2 hour of each other, they didn't look like 763s, looking at their winglets. I had just remembered that they couldn't have been 764s since they have raked wingtips. Checking FR24 I see the following Delta widebody departures today: 767-300 ...

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by hawaiian717
Sun May 23, 2021 11:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 15 Years ago today- Last B717 delivered
Replies: 68
Views: 9753

Re: 15 Years ago today- Last B717 delivered

717 situation with Boeing mirrors that of the C-Series with Airbus today. I'm not sure I completely agree. Boeing had a bit of a "not invented here" syndrome with the 717 vs the 737, and weren't interested in pursuing a 717 sale if it meant the loss of a 737 sale. Also, the 737NG is a gen...

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by hawaiian717
Fri May 14, 2021 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

I think AA and DL will return to the LAX-SAN market once international demand warrants. Most domestic services that would have routed via LAX can be handled through other hubs like PHX and SLC. It makes sense for UA to stay in the market because of their long term strength in west coast services, es...

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by hawaiian717
Thu May 13, 2021 7:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 39
Views: 5503

Re: Hawaiian Aviation Thread - 2021

https://themolokaidispatch.com/19-perso ... this-fall/
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Southern Airways will be bringing the Beechcraft 1900D to Hawaii this fall to complement Mokulele’s existing Caravan service. https://themolokaidispatch.com/19-perso ... this-fall/

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by hawaiian717
Sun May 09, 2021 7:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is LAX so dominant in the LA Region?
Replies: 127
Views: 15858

Re: Why is LAX so dominant in the LA Region?

Good points except that Miami also had no perimeter rule, nor does SNA, ONT, LGB or BUR. They have range limits due to fuel to weight needed. True that SNA and BUR have range limits based on how much weight you can get off a short runway, but ONT and LGB have no such limit. Both airports have long ...

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by hawaiian717
Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Taiwan Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 18
Views: 3229

Re: Taiwan Aviation Thread - 2021

EVA Air announced on their social media channels that B-16703, the Sanrio “Hand in Hand” 777 will be returning to standard livery in May: Farewell “Hand in Hand”! Our Hello Kitty Jet "Hand in Hand" will be reinstated to standard livery on 5/16. The "Hand in Hand" jet has been wor...

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by hawaiian717
Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would US Military Ever Sell C-5 to the Civilian Cargo Market?
Replies: 72
Views: 7985

Re: Would US Military Ever Sell C-5 to the Civilian Cargo Market?

Didn't McD try to offer an MD-17, which was a civilian-configured C-17? They got no bites. Boeing tried too as the BC-17. Nether sold. The market for such an aircraft is limited and the cost of owning a commercial C-17 variant was unattractive compared to the cost of chartering an An-124 when needed.

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by hawaiian717
Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

With that said, I wish the NIMBYs could just compromise and agree to allowing the expansion but negotiate some sort of limit on daily commercial flights. Can't do those limits anymore. Noise ordinance slot policies like those at LGB are grandfathered in; FAA won't allow airports to create new ones.

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by hawaiian717
Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HA announces OGG-LGB, ONT-HNL, AUS-HNL, MCO-HNL
Replies: 202
Views: 25996

Re: HA announces OGG-LGB, ONT-HNL, AUS-HNL, MCO-HNL

Denver: HA flies to PHX, which is an AA hub, so I don't think it's entirely far fetched that HA might try to make it at DEN and see if they can cut in on United's DEN-HNL monopoly. There's probably some market stimulation effects to be had through competition. Again, at least as a few times weekly ...

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by hawaiian717
Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Flight 86 (HNL-MCO) Inaugural Flight enroute
Replies: 58
Views: 8900

Re: Hawaiian Flight 86 (HNL-MCO) Inaugural Flight enroute

By the way, getting back to the topic, interesting that the plane sits for 24 hours before the scheduled return flight next morning. 7am arrival today Friday...Departs 8:25 Saturday a.m. The crews need a rest period, and there's no real need to get the plane turned around quickly during a period of...

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by hawaiian717
Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA LAX T4/T5 Renovation
Replies: 64
Views: 12936

Re: AA LAX T4/T5 Renovation

N649DL wrote:
Oh wow, I can't believe this happened. That's pretty crafty on DL's part (despite them just opening a Sky Club in there?)


The T3 SkyClub was in the location of the Virgin America lounge; it's not a space that was built out from scratch by Delta.

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by hawaiian717
Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA LAX T4/T5 Renovation
Replies: 64
Views: 12936

Re: AA LAX T4/T5 Renovation

T3 is a freaking dump and it's just way too crowded in the gate area Was a freaking dump is probably a better way to put it. Delta took advantage of decreased traffic levels and closed the building completely to replace it all at once rather than trying to do a progressive remodel around an operati...

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by hawaiian717
Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

Coronado990 wrote:
Looks like a KE 777 coming in from GMP today at 10:40a. Anybody know anymore info on that?
Edit: It now shows a Gulfstream on Flightaware so never mind.


Still interesting. A Korean Air G650, HL8068:

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by hawaiian717
Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Air delays 787 deliveries
Replies: 58
Views: 18145

Re: Hawaiian Air delays 787 deliveries

The B789 is a large aircraft. HA have 278 seats (F/Y+/Y) in their A332, so can we expect 310-325 seats in the B789 unless they go for a huge premium section with all-aisle access suites? I would not necessarily expect Hawaiian to go with an all-aisle access F/J cabin. They decided against it when t...

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by hawaiian717
Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

Here's an obvious elephant-in-the-room idea the report should consider: build a new airport at Miramar. I know, I know; never gonna happen. Miramar is irrelevant to the EIR, since the EIR isn’t about airport development options, but about redevelopment of the NAVWAR Old Town Complex site, which was...

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by hawaiian717
Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

Is there any movement on the Grand Central Station where SpaWar is now idea? It seems like the project has died on the vine. https://navwar-revitalization.com/ The Navy is working on the draft Environmental Impact Statement which is expected to be published early this year. Once it’s out expect to ...

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by hawaiian717
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q1 2021
Replies: 1569
Views: 237759

Re: United Adds SNA-HNL

Maybe those mainland tags did a lot better than I thought! They were cheap but timing was limited to late night departures from SNA and early morning returns. I heard that overnight parking at SNA was expensive and hard to come by, so the tag flights were as much about finding somewhere to park the...

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by hawaiian717
Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q1 2021
Replies: 1569
Views: 237759

Re: United Adds SNA-HNL

Some say that UA hosting SNA-HNL is going to be a hit because it's more convenient for Orange County-based flyers. I'd actually be more concerned about this route dragging down load factors from their hub in LAX. That and SNA is in the Northern part of Orange County. I used to live in Hollywood and...

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by hawaiian717
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q1 2021
Replies: 1569
Views: 237759

Re: United Adds SNA-HNL

Southwest adjusting their interisland schedule to accommodate United’s SNA pax is not going to happen. Southwest doesn’t work with anyone else. Unless they decide to get ETOPS on the -700 or MAX7 or accept the weight restrictions on their ETOPS -800s, Southwest will serve Orange County passengers fr...

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by hawaiian717
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local ... f7f970ee75
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Falcon 900 overran the end of the runway this morning at MYF. No injuries reported.

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local ... f7f970ee75

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by hawaiian717
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q1 2021
Replies: 1569
Views: 237759

Re: United Adds SNA-HNL

I live in South OC and like to fly UA, so this is a real plus for me. BUT, I usually skip Oahu and go the Big Island. So I am in the I dunno class. I plan to go later in the year and wonder how the vaccine will affect travel to Hawaii. This is the challenge all the SoCal airports—SNA, LGB, BUR, ONT...

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by hawaiian717
Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HNA Group enters bankruptcy restructuring
Replies: 51
Views: 11892

Re: HNA Group enters bankruptcy restructuring

- Virgin Australia {as of 2016}; https://www.virginaustralia.com/au/en/about-us/media/2016/VA-Strategic-Alliance-HNA-Equity-investment/ In support of the alliance, HNA will make an equity investment in the Virgin Australia Group. The investment will be made in the form of an A$159 million placement...

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by hawaiian717
Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do all Americans have two names?
Replies: 31
Views: 1874

Re: Do all Americans have two names?

For actors, many unions including the Screen Actors Guild in the US and the British Actors Equity Association have rules that no two members can have the same working name. So some use their middle initial, like Michael J. Fox, since there was already another actor named Michael Fox.

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by hawaiian717
Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Volotea flown last B717 commercial flight
Replies: 61
Views: 31290

Re: Volotea flown last B717 commercial flight

Hawaiian may have NO choice but to consider turbo props when the 717s reach the end of their lifetime. Turbo props would only take a few minutes longer per flight. However they may not carry many surfboards. If the Hawaiians do not like the turbo props they could always take the inter island ferrie...

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by hawaiian717
Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 39
Views: 5503

Re: Hawaiian Aviation Thread - 2021

ch-aviation notes that Mokulele will take over Ohana's unsubsidized EAS service to Molokai and Lanai. Notably, they state they will use twin engine aircraft in accordance with EAS requirements, though Mokulele only operates single engine Caravans (and possibly still the PC-12?). I did see on Wikiped...

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by hawaiian717
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

The long sit in SAN means the crew can have their overnight rest and fly the aircraft back to Japan the next day. Having the aircraft return the same day means another crew would have to take the plane back. For a daily schedule that's fine, but for a sub-daily schedule that means the same crew with...

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by hawaiian717
Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

If you follow the schedule changes articles Cranky Flyer posts every Monday on his blog, you'll see that airlines aren't really doing much that far out. So about now is the right time we're starting to see realistic changes for February, further out than that is mostly last year's schedules as a pla...

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by hawaiian717
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 221
Views: 32784

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2021

You overlook little details like Fly America Act and the DOD travel management program. For example, LA-Tokyo contract is held by United in FY21. While civilian government employees can often fly on codeshare flights operated by foreign carriers as part of the program, military must nearly always f...

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by hawaiian717
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 332357

Re: American Airlines Adds CLT-HNL

Westbound, DFW-HNL is about 8 hours (yes, I know the OP wrote the eastbound routing). Which, considering CUN, SJD, and MIA/FLL are all 2.5-3ish hours away from DFW, does indeed make it a long flight for someone from the Metroplex hoping to get to a beach destination. Same thing with CLT-HNL: we're ...

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by hawaiian717
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 756
Views: 91589

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020

Report on the first Alaska 737 MAX 9 flights which will include SAN: .@AlaskaAir filed its first #737MAX 9 flights tonight. First routes are SEA-LAX/SAN and PDX-LAX on March 1. First departure is AS1041 SEA-LAX at 07:15 followed by AS482 SEA-SAN, according to Cirium. $ALK https://twitter.com/byeruss...

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by hawaiian717
Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HA announces OGG-LGB, ONT-HNL, AUS-HNL, MCO-HNL
Replies: 202
Views: 25996

Re: HA announces OGG-LGB, ONT-HNL, AUS-HNL, MCO-HNL

But the reality is they have planes not flying to Asia and need to utilize them so I don't see this as part of a longer term strategy. It’s not just a lack of Asia flying. With a number of A321neo on the property now, those are taking over a lot of the west coast flying, so there may still be A330 ...

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by hawaiian717
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots
Replies: 698
Views: 98645

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

CR7 would normally fall under commuter slots; to retain the mainline slots they need to use the CR9. I’m not sure where the E75 fits but since it’s heavier it might be an option to preserve the mainline slot with a smaller plane if this is a competitive reaction and not just taking advantage of the ...

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by hawaiian717
Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 756
Views: 91589

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020

Why didn’t USAir codeshare with United Express on SAN-LAX? Weren’t they in the same alliance? Not at the time. Trans States ended the US Airways Express flying out of LAX at the end of 1999. US Airways joined Star Alliance in 2004. Why did Doug Parker get rid of all of the Saabs that were flying to...

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by hawaiian717
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 756
Views: 91589

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020

I almost forgot about US Airways Express. Where did they fly to? Did they have Jetstreams? I will try to find some photos in the database. I only flew them between SAN and LAX. I don’t recall them flying anywhere else from SAN but they might have before I was here. They flew the Jetstream 32 (aka J...

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by hawaiian717
Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 756
Views: 91589

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020

The comments above reflect my memories of using the commuter terminal starting in 1998. I mostly used it to LAX, but I did also use American Eagle to SJC a few times, and for a while to keep things confusing, Eagle operated LAX flights from the commuter terminal and SJC flights from terminal 2. When...

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by hawaiian717
Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 756
Views: 91589

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020

I wonder if there might be an EMJ shortage (or crew or other support resource issue) that caused AS to eliminate this flight/route for the month of December? It certainly doesn't make any sense to start a brand new route and run it for 10 days... If there is some sort of issue causing this, hopeful...

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by hawaiian717
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots
Replies: 698
Views: 98645

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.com/r ... er-getaway
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For the naysayers who said Hawaiian wouldn't come back to Long Beach: The airline plans to resume daily HNL-LGB flights in December: https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.com/r ... er-getaway

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by hawaiian717
Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Does anyone remember the LA basin airline
Replies: 27
Views: 5634

Re: Does anyone remember the LA basin airline

(There was one more routing I was not able to do because one of the city codes was not recognized. That was: Torrance-Carlsbad-San Diego Brown Field-El Cajon-San Diego Brown Field-San Diego Lindbergh International-San Diego Montgomery Gibbs-Catalina Avalon-Long Beach-Torrence.) This should be: TOA-...

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by hawaiian717
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fate of 717 post Delta
Replies: 192
Views: 35047

Re: Fate of 717 post Delta

I'd be interested in seeing how long WN keeps a specific aircraft stays out of the inter-island market in HI before it's allowed back. Part of the advantage that WN has that AQ didn't have is an extensive domestic US market. I'm sure WN uses this to properly balance engine wear and minimize abuse o...

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by hawaiian717
Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Australia to enter voluntary administration
Replies: 342
Views: 61143

Re: Virgin Australia to enter voluntary administration

You seem to be saying regional (not that I disagree). Does that mean all narrowbody because they wouldn't really need widebody range? Six or eight A330s is surely not an adequately-sized subfleet. And four 77Ws... what the heck. I believe VA has stated they will be all 737s for now. They are intere...

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by hawaiian717
Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fate of 717 post Delta
Replies: 192
Views: 35047

Re: Fate of 717 post Delta

IF it's true that the 732 ate too much fuel on island-hops and that they actually considered the Avro RJ's, i don't get why Aloha didn't take a risk and just get them, even if there's no commonality with the 737NG's. Aloha was interested in the Avro RJ-X version, but only three were produced (two p...

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by hawaiian717
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Australia to enter voluntary administration
Replies: 342
Views: 61143

Re: Virgin Australia to enter voluntary administration

Take a page from the successful global pioneers like Southwest, Ryanair, and recreate it in Australia by giving consumers a distinct choice and QF a good run for its money. Southwest and Ryanair aren't really the same though, Southwest has remained more of a traditional LCC (though their costs aren...

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by hawaiian717
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive
Replies: 286
Views: 48675

Re: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive

Debt: $3.38 billion usd assets: $1.69 billion usd https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/airasia-x-airline-debt-restructuring-covid-19-travel-malaysia-13213524 When debt is twice assets, the company is done. When is the question. Not doubting your conclusion, but reading the article, it give...

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by hawaiian717
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fate of 717 post Delta
Replies: 192
Views: 35047

Re: Fate of 717 post Delta

Are there any competitors to Hawaiian Airlines on intra-island services? What types do they fly? Southwest Airlines flies 737-800s on interisland service but without the number of daily frequencies that Hawaiian offers. Mokulele Airlines flies the Cessna 208 primarily in tiny markets that can’t sup...

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by hawaiian717
Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fate of 717 post Delta
Replies: 192
Views: 35047

Re: Fate of 717 post Delta

So what is it that the 737-700 cannot do? I get it that the -200 may be preferable for extremely short routes with many cycles per day, but why can’t the CFM-56 do the job even if it is less efficient? Nobody is going to be able to assemble a fleet of -200s at this point. And they will likely be ev...

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