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by VC10DC10
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can turbulence cause damage to old Kapton insulated wire?
Replies: 9
Views: 1281

Re: Can turbulence cause damage to old Kapton insulated wire?

convair880mfan wrote:
There are a lot of threads and posts on Kapton wire insulation


Bundles of them, I dare say :rotfl:

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by VC10DC10
Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Used Delta Aircraft Purchase A359/737-900ER
Replies: 903
Views: 250181

Re: Updated: Used Delta Aircraft Purchase A359/737-900ER

WidebodyPTV wrote:
Why is DL taking until summer 2023 to get all 29 aircraft into service?


The way I read it, the summer 2023 date refers to both the 29 737s and the seven A350s, so there's a chance the narrowbodies will be finished much sooner.

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by VC10DC10
Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Norwegian low-cost Norse Atlantic Airways announced
Replies: 356
Views: 83294

Re: New Norwegian locost international airline announced

Did April Fools come early this year?

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by VC10DC10
Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NW/PA and DL/PA London interchange routes.
Replies: 58
Views: 5639

Re: NW/PA and DL/PA London interchange routes.

What I have always wondered is how can two of the most capitalist countries in the world have had such a socialist aviation policy ? It wasn't "socialist" at all, it was a protectionist policy--both the U.S. and the UK governments wanted to protect the commercial rights of their incumbent...

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by VC10DC10
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to close Seattle R&D center
Replies: 105
Views: 12530

Re: Boeing to close Seattle R&D center

zkojq wrote:
Smart decision. Over the past years Boeing has clearly been suffering from too much R&D and too much innovation. This is a prudent move by Boeing management to fix the problem. I hope that Wall Street rewards them. :smile:


Ha! I needed that today! Thank you.

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by VC10DC10
Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gary Kelly elected as Chairman of A4A
Replies: 13
Views: 3167

Re: Gary Kelly elected as Chairman of A4A

These chairmanships of trade groups in the U.S. are usually rotating. Not saying Kelly won't have influence on the association, but it's usually largely a ceremonial/honorary position.

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by VC10DC10
Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1501
Views: 50292

NY Times article on airline employee buyouts/early retirements

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/busi ... virus.html
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Apologies if posted elsewhere. The story has several interesting vignettes/profiles of airline employees who are moving on as a result of the industry turmoil in the wake of COVID-19: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/busi ... virus.html

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by VC10DC10
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Orient and Northwest Airlines
Replies: 61
Views: 13299

Re: Northwest Orient and Northwest Airlines

For a period, yes NWA was all Boeing. But they did fly DC-8's for a short time in the 60's. Just to confirm - wasn't NWA an all Boeing fleet until the DC-10's showed up and the Republic buyout? IIRC every other major operated a twin jet except NWA. Wonder what their fleet planners were thinking - d...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: NW DC-10-40 vs DC-10-30
Replies: 70
Views: 13193

Re: NW DC-10-40 vs DC-10-30

No, they flew ORD-NRT with DC-10-40s in at least late 1973... with a traffic stop in ANC each way: No, they did not. Your schedule is from 1973. NRT didn’t even open until 1978. Your schedule would be for ORD-ANC-HND. By the by, the poster I replied to clearly specified “scheduled nonstop”, and is ...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: NW DC-10-40 vs DC-10-30
Replies: 70
Views: 13193

Re: NW DC-10-40 vs DC-10-30

http://northwestairlineshistory.org/wp- ... 28-CHI.pdf
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Transpac787 wrote:
No, NW DC10's never flew ORD-NRT.



No, they flew ORD-NRT with DC-10-40s in at least late 1973... with a traffic stop in ANC each way:

http://northwestairlineshistory.org/wp- ... 28-CHI.pdf

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by VC10DC10
Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s
Replies: 54
Views: 14528

Re: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s

kelval wrote:
It's a 7500 NM flight
ORY-RUN is more like 5,050 NM, but yes, that's quite a long way for a fully-loaded aircraft operating off a fairly short runway.

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by VC10DC10
Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 80s Europe-South Africa Fuel Stop Question
Replies: 31
Views: 3837

Re: 80s Europe-South Africa Fuel Stop Question

https://www.timetableimages.com/ttimage ... h68-01.jpg
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Zimzam wrote:
As an aside.... LH to JNB were always via Nairobi


In addition to Nairobi, LH had some service to JNB via ACC, too.

https://www.timetableimages.com/ttimage ... h68-01.jpg

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by VC10DC10
Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic Moscow/Tokyo 1980's/90's
Replies: 15
Views: 3757

Re: Virgin Atlantic Moscow/Tokyo 1980's/90's

flyjay123 wrote:
I was surprised they launched NRT ahead of LAX (1990)


I believe 1989 was the height of Japan's asset price bubble--and no bubble ever seems like one at the time, it's just great times all around until the bubble bursts. So it probably seemed like a shrewd move in 1989--by 1992 not so much.

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by VC10DC10
Wed May 06, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your Hotel Experience: The Ritz-Carlton
Replies: 27
Views: 2470

Re: Your Hotel Experience: The Ritz-Carlton

I have stayed at the Ritz-Carlton in Naples, Florida--it is tremendous--and also their property in Sarasota, Florida. The Sarasota property is extremely disappointing--while the service is up to par, the facilities definitely are not. It's like a nice Hampton Inn rather than a luxury hotel. There is...

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by VC10DC10
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: McDonnell Douglas Model 188 STOL
Replies: 12
Views: 2644

Re: McDonnell Douglas Model 188 STOL

I realize it was probably the result of an internal numbering system that some very smart engineers had a hand in creating and enforcing, but didn't it seem odd to anyone at McDonnell that the number "188" had been used just a few years before by Lockheed for their Electra II?

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by VC10DC10
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 360
Views: 76934

Re: BA could make up to 12.000 employees redundant

"Balpa's general secretary Brian Strutton said: 'This has come as a bolt out of the blue from an airline that said it was wealthy enough to weather the Covid storm and declined any government support. 'Balpa does not accept that a case has been made for these job losses and we will be fighting ...

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by VC10DC10
Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: If you could visit any country tomorrow, what country would it be?
Replies: 66
Views: 4254

Re: If you could visit any country tomorrow, what country would it be?

Italy.

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by VC10DC10
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:33 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Landing Cycles for an 787 Vs A330
Replies: 26
Views: 3561

Re: Landing Cycles for an 787 Vs A330

strfyr51 wrote:
Some of them had NEVER ever seen full tanks! EVER!


Out of curiosity, how could you tell?

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by VC10DC10
Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: United 772 being washed at gate
Replies: 33
Views: 10192

Re: United 772 being washed at gate

How does one clean an aircraft without water?

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by VC10DC10
Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:55 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Aircraft types with "spotless" safety record?
Replies: 48
Views: 5253

Re: Aircraft types with "spotless" safety record?

I would argue the Vickers VC-10 had a sterling safety record that should be included on this list. There were several high-profile crashes but they were not related to the aircraft design: the Nigeria Airways crash was caused by pilots losing altitude awareness; the East African Airways crash was ca...

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by VC10DC10
Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure
Replies: 21
Views: 8785

Re: Ethiopian Ailrlines Boeing 767 suffered uncontained engine failure

JAAlbert wrote:

And on a side note, isn't the 767 a good looking plane?


At least it doesn't look... plain.... :)

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by VC10DC10
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Delta ends NWA toll-free numbers
Replies: 2
Views: 1412

Delta ends NWA toll-free numbers

According to the automated recordings played at the beginning of calls, Delta is planning to discontinue use of the two Northwest Airlines toll-free telephone numbers that date back decades: 800-225-2525 and 800-447-4747. Originally, NW used the 2525 number for domestic reservations and 4747 for int...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't the B753 sell better?
Replies: 136
Views: 28482

Re: Why didn't the B753 sell better?

seabosdca wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised to see a United sub buy it as a parts bird.


Serious question: how many parts are unique to the -300?

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by VC10DC10
Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Suspected drunk DL pilot arrested just before flight
Replies: 118
Views: 19274

Re: Suspected drunk DL pilot arrested just before flight

Arrested, held for a few hours and released. No charges yet. If he is found to not exceed limits then I expect a full apology for releasing his name . I’m sure that would happen... carrying an empty bottle is not proof of anything, and smells are not anything but a step in discovery. That's the maj...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Did N398AN experience a technical problem?
Replies: 0
Views: 2380

Did N398AN experience a technical problem?

I notice that N398AN operated AA131 PHL-BLQ (Bologna, Italy) on July 30 (arriving on schedule the following morning). But, the return flight AA131 on July 31 was cancelled, as was a flight, AA9241, that had been scheduled for August 1. Is N398AN still at BLQ with a technical issue, or did something ...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am New York to Tehran flights
Replies: 52
Views: 8791

Re: Pan Am New York to Tehran flights

More like reverted back to PA110. In NS 1971 PA110 was JFK-FCO-IST-ESB-THR. PA515 I'm not 100% certain, but I believe that PA110 in 1971 was a 707 all the way from JFK. When PA started taking deliveries of 747s, they went to the London and Paris routes first. I believe PA extended 114 to Rome in or...

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by VC10DC10
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of AA intercontinental flying at ORD
Replies: 40
Views: 4654

Re: History of AA intercontinental flying at ORD

In summer 2000, AA's ORD intercontinental schedule included the following: Chicago – Birmingham – daily 763 Chicago – Brussels – daily 763 Chicago – Frankfurt – daily 763 Chicago – Glasgow – daily 762 Chicago – London Heathrow – thrice daily 777, as well as 12 762 rotations per week Chicago – Manche...

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by VC10DC10
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Website with historical database for airlines' airport/equipment type?
Replies: 1
Views: 853

Re: Website with historical database for airlines' airport/equipment type?

The best site for that type of thing is DepartedFlights dot com. You can't see all data for all airports and every year, but there is a wealth of information and imagery there.

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by VC10DC10
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Comparing FedEx vs UPS air operations and fleet
Replies: 19
Views: 7237

Re: Comparing FedEx vs UPS air operations and fleet

My question has always been that with a more efficient operation, why isn't UPS cheaper than FedEx? Simply put, why should they be? The efficiencies in the UPS network may allow for greater margins but it is a duopoly. One raises rates then the other follows and vice versa. One adds a fuel surcharg...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: SFO Help - Train to Plane
Replies: 10
Views: 1307

Re: SFO Help - Train to Plane

Not a damn thing wrong with SFO and the surrounding environs from many perspectives...it all depends on what interests one holds. OK, fine, but so many neighborhoods of San Francisco, from Chestnut Hill to the Presidio, the Embarcadero, Sea Cliff, Sunset District, etc., not to mention not-in-city-l...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A220 in Chicago 6/19/19
Replies: 49
Views: 8575

Re: Delta A220 in Chicago Today

I haven't been following the DL A220 scheduling adjustments/service expansion, but I was pleasantly surprised to see an A220 with her gorgeous canted winglets landing at DCA yesterday. It flew straight over my Yellow Line train on the Charles Fenwick Bridge across the Potomac.

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by VC10DC10
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: SFO Help - Train to Plane
Replies: 10
Views: 1307

Re: SFO Help - Train to Plane

Number 1 sounds like the way to get to Oakland airport, not SFO. I recommend 3. Stay in a hotel in downtown San Francisco. More restaurants and things to do. Then take Bart to SFO when ready to leave. BART takes you to the international terminal. The hotels at the airport area are convenient for th...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?
Replies: 119
Views: 25587

Re: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?

I'm not sure if the DC-8 was doing much TATL. It may be worth pointing out that the DC-8 was used extensively on transatlantic service by Air Canada, KLM, SAS, Swissair, Iberia, Alitalia, and Pan Am. In fact, until the advent of the 747, it was the only transatlantic jet for AC, KL, SK, SR, IB, and...

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by VC10DC10
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA167 LIS-IAD Divert DCA
Replies: 82
Views: 17897

Re: UA167 LIS-IAD Divert DCA

N312RC wrote:
only international flights into DCA are from Canada


You're right about the preclearance of all international flights arriving at DCA, but there are also nonstop services to Bermuda and the Bahamas.

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by VC10DC10
Wed May 29, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Best Airline Ads
Replies: 59
Views: 4759

Re: Best Airline Ads

https://youtu.be/VywUQz-DtHs
https://youtu.be/5rshGbeOKX0

American
https://youtu.be/V64IMaou8lU
https://youtu.be/jzDOa6HEGYI

Edit: typo
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There were several commercials created immediately after 9/11 that I still think are outstanding:

United
https://youtu.be/VywUQz-DtHs
https://youtu.be/5rshGbeOKX0

American
https://youtu.be/V64IMaou8lU
https://youtu.be/jzDOa6HEGYI

Edit: typo

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by VC10DC10
Wed May 29, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airline types developed specifically for one carrier
Replies: 71
Views: 9162

Re: Airline types developed specifically for one carrier

The Vickers VC-10 and Super VC-10 were tailored very closely to BOAC's then-stated requirements. So, too, was the de Havilland Trident tailored to a rather short-sighted specification from BEA.

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by VC10DC10
Mon May 13, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ironic DL Flight Number
Replies: 53
Views: 11329

Re: Ironic DL Flight Number

OB1504 wrote:
The Delta flight is probably a coincidence, but Spirit Airlines commonly uses a city’s area codes as flight numbers. Some examples:

NK 202: DFW-BWI (202 is the DC area)



That can only be a coincidence, as the 202 area code is for the District of Columbia only.

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by VC10DC10
Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TWA Ambassador Service Seat Charts (1971) L1011, 747 Question- K Class?
Replies: 50
Views: 8028

Re: TWA Ambassador Service Seat Charts (1971) L1011, 747 Question- K Class?

longhauler wrote:
...TWA would have been the only American carrier that operated a 747 both domestically and internationally


It's very unusual for Longhauler to be wrong, but Northwest Orient also operated the 747 on many U.S. domestic routes in addition to its international routes.

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by VC10DC10
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas PER-LHR marks 1 year of operation, route exceeds expectations
Replies: 47
Views: 9551

Re: Qantas PER-LHR marks 1 year of operation, route exceeds expectations

Very neat, but one data point seems off to me...an average stay of 28 days in Perth? Doesn't that seem extremely high? (I am not criticizing Perth at all; I'm just saying it seems high for an average stay.)

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by VC10DC10
Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unknown airport-Eastern DC-9
Replies: 33
Views: 5892

Re: Unknown airport-Eastern DC-9

To the posters who mentioned the grass as an identifying characteristic indicative of MIA: could you enlighten me exactly what's so distinctive about the grass in these historical photos? I'm just not seeing anything unique about it.

I do love these historical threads, however.

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by VC10DC10
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1923
Views: 460835

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Let me begin by saying that I am in no way an aviation safety expert, and this is rank speculation--but I am curious if the precipitating event wasn't turbulence, but a mistaken belief that collision with another aircraft was imminent--a belief caused by some sort of optical phenomenon giving the cr...

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by VC10DC10
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Delta will postpone A220 operations
Replies: 75
Views: 29190

Re: Official: Delta will postpone A220 operations

lightsaber wrote:
2200nm (DTW-FLL, in winter)



That is a *really* long flight between those airports.

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by VC10DC10
Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DCA is dead today (Jan 7th)
Replies: 21
Views: 6430

Re: DCA is dead today (Jan 7th)

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of tourists have cancelled/postponed plans to visit DC until after many major museums/parks/tourist sites are back in full operation.

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by VC10DC10
Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018
Replies: 853
Views: 118674

Re: Amazon Fleet Growth - 2018

Side note: What is it about BOG that makes it such a popular cargo route around Christmas? Both UPS and FDX are serving it with daily 767s, as appears to be DHL from MIA, and the freight-brokers seem to be keeping the guys who regularly service Latin America busy with multiple daily flights from th...

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by VC10DC10
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:37 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airline Pilots Bidding Down to Smaller Aircraft
Replies: 57
Views: 10174

Re: Airline Pilots Bidding Down to Smaller Aircraft

I knew a guy who moved from Q400 to the 787, then found out it wasn’t for him and bid back to the Dash... Um....how? You'd have to bid for narrowbody jets first before being able to hold a widebody, in most respects, not to mention the fact that to my knowledge, there's no single mainline carrier a...

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by VC10DC10
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:59 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Alaska Airlines' Last Week In Lewiston
Replies: 7
Views: 3415

Re: Alaska Airlines' Last Week In Lewiston

Pullman is much less than an hour from Lewiston--closer to 30 minutes, I would think. The only time I was at Lewiston/Nez Perce was the result of irregular operations: in November of 2002 I was scheduled to fly from PUW (Pullman) to SEA on Horizon, connecting onward aboard Northwest. Heavy fog at PU...

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by VC10DC10
Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas PER-LHR reporting extremely high load factors, now QF’s most profitable route
Replies: 145
Views: 30953

Re: Qantas PER-LHR reporting extremely high load factors, now QF’s most profitable route

If the 789's are carrying payload they probably have 100-200nm extra range under the belt. I'm surprised Qantas isnt talking about Melbourne to Athens. Only 200nm further. I'm not surpresed the aren't. Too low yielding (albeit high volume) and too long haul. Sorry for being ignorant, but what drive...

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by VC10DC10
Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BTV/HVN) - 2018
Replies: 1004
Views: 92186

Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BTV/HVN) - 2018

PQI is designated a regional airport, but it's only miles from a border checkpoint, so Customs may only come to PQI on pre-request? Its runway is as long as PWM, though. It was originally an Air Force base for fighters in the 1950's. A satellite of Loring AFB. Are you sure about that? I thought Pre...

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