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by flyfresno
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 188
Views: 23439

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020

With Virgin supposedly going all domestic (plus New Zealand and Bali), will DL look to pick up any TPAC routes once things rebound? They would be down from 4 per day to 1 between the US and Australia with Virgin gone. Would they look at BNE? Another SYD? Thoughts?

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by flyfresno
Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RST (Rochester, MN) New Air Service Announcement 8/10
Replies: 29
Views: 4925

Re: RST (Rochester, MN) New Air Service Announcement 8/10

IF DLH wants to do a revenue guarantee like RST they could probably find an airline to take that money. Per the proposal it is $1 Million guaranteed to the airline (if needed) and also waiving of landing fee and facilities rent. This is pretty standard. https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DOT-OS...

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by flyfresno
Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RST (Rochester, MN) New Air Service Announcement 8/10
Replies: 29
Views: 4925

Re: RST (Rochester, MN) New Air Service Announcement 8/10

Are people not reading the comments above? It’s confirmed - UA to DEN 1x Daily on a CR2, starting 10/1 Which... opine note, is a very nice add in the middle of this pandemic. Only a matter of time until DLH gets DEN service too IF DLH wants to do a revenue guarantee like RST they could probably fin...

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by flyfresno
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RST (Rochester, MN) New Air Service Announcement 8/10
Replies: 29
Views: 4925

Re: RST (Rochester, MN) New Air Service Announcement 8/10

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1421963&start=50

This was for a flight to a western hub (eg. Denver)


Is DFW considered a "western hub"?
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ytib wrote:
They did receive SCASD money earlier this year.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1421963&start=50

This was for a flight to a western hub (eg. Denver)


Is DFW considered a "western hub"?

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by flyfresno
Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 145
Views: 12538

Re: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020

Surprising and not surprising. I thought the OAG thread had it down to one single flight a few days per week. I feel like UA has been trying to come back in LAX, but there's not really many places you can get to from LAX on either UA or Star in general that you can't from SFO/DEN/ORD. Still, crazy ...

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by flyfresno
Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 145
Views: 12538

Re: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020

The UA schedule load last night shows LAX is gone in September. Is AA due to load tonight? Surprising and not surprising. I thought the OAG thread had it down to one single flight a few days per week. I feel like UA has been trying to come back in LAX, but there's not really many places you can get...

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by flyfresno
Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines questions
Replies: 72
Views: 9384

Re: Western Airlines questions

What equipment did they use on SLC-FAT? Nevermind, I see they used a 73S. Mainline on SLC-FAT, those were the days. Pre-COVID, DL was back up to 4X per day to SLC on E175s. With AA operating mainline to DFW/PHX, UA operating mainline to ORD and sometimes DEN, and AS operating mainline to SEA (well,...

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by flyfresno
Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city
Replies: 329
Views: 35213

Re: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city

AMALH747430 wrote:
BFL doesn’t have any competition


Out of curiosity, did you mean Bakersfield, or are you using BFL as an acronym for something else? Or was that a typo?

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by flyfresno
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 566
Views: 59010

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020

I wish Alaska would get the A220 with the long range and fly IND-SAN maybe RDU-SAN. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk They could do IND-SAN with the E-175. It’s just 10 miles longer than SFO-MSN. I would think WN would fly SAN-IND year-round if there was enough demand for it. Perhaps the E175 is...

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by flyfresno
Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wizz Air Abu Dhabi announces first destinations from AUH base
Replies: 46
Views: 7523

Re: Wizz Air Abu Dhabi announces first destinations from AUH base

Surprised no TBS...that's an emerging destination that I would think would be popular in addition to KUT...

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by flyfresno
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: AA to eliminate meal service on many domestic routes 2,200+
Replies: 17
Views: 2082

Re: AA to eliminate meal service on many domestic routes 2,200+

Just fruit and cheese? What if you are lactose intolerant or allergic to milk, not to mention vegan? Wouldn't some sort of alternative like hummus and veggies be a good idea?

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by flyfresno
Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS responds to B6, announces LAX and FLL expansion
Replies: 157
Views: 26519

Re: AS claps back at B6, announces LAX and FLL expansion

Simply put, there were many cities like FAT or EUG that AA had to have in its network. To be a competitive domestic player on the national level, AA couldn’t simply tell it’s frequent flyers out East that “I am sorry, but we can’t fly you to EUG or FAT because those cities aren’t accessible from an...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 323
Views: 40683

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

The two partnerships (AA+AS and AA+B6) will likely lead to additional partnerships to protect market share. If AA, AS and B6 merge it will likely lead to further consolidation in the industry. WN is probably very popular at the dance. I'm not so sure WN would want to merge with UA or DL; doing so w...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 323
Views: 40683

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

So if AA/AS/B6 merge, that would mean DL/UA would likely merge as well. Then the US would have two mega legacies and a bunch of LCC/ULCC’s. Not sure if that would be good or bad The two partnerships (AA+AS and AA+B6) will likely lead to additional partnerships to protect market share. If AA, AS and...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership
Replies: 323
Views: 40683

Re: AA & B6 announce Northeast Partnership

But there is no AA+AS+B6 partnership. There is an AA+AS partnership which serves the purpose of SEA feed to AA INTL, and then there is a separate AA+B6 partnership, which serves the different purpose of an NYC presence. On top of that, all three of those mentioned carriers are still competitors , f...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS responds to B6, announces LAX and FLL expansion
Replies: 157
Views: 26519

Re: AS claps back at B6, announces LAX and FLL expansion

https://investor.alaskaair.com/news-rel ... s-2020-lax


Also FAT. Although it was announced before most of the others.
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Chugach wrote:
New routes are LAX-RSW/TPA/LIH/KOA/BZN/MFR/EUG, PDX-FLL, SAN-FLL, and SEA-RSW.

Discuss.

https://investor.alaskaair.com/news-rel ... s-2020-lax


Also FAT. Although it was announced before most of the others.

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by flyfresno
Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots
Replies: 426
Views: 55054

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

Here are JetBlues last flights in and out of LGB. Convenient that they can both be made into one round trip. https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en-us&prmd=tmivn&lite=0#flt=LGB.LAS.2020-10-06.LGBLAS0B6680*LAS.LGB.2020-10-06.LASLGB0B6179;c:USD;e:1;sd:1;t:f;sp:2.USD.12560*2.USD.12560 LGB-LAS-LG...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION;NK Cuts Aug;AA Reshapes PHL;B6 LAX Swap;DL Closes YEG;EI Out of MSP;DE Cuts SEA-MUC
Replies: 114
Views: 24317

Re: OAG Changes 7/12/2020:EVOLUTION;NK Cuts Aug;AA Reshapes PHL;B6 LAX Swap;DL Closes YEG;EI Out of MSP;DE Cuts SEA-MUC

15 departures moved out of PHL. I wonder what the logic is? Congestion is no longer an issue. **AA ABE-CLT OCT 3>4[3] NOV 3>4[3] DEC 3>4[3] JAN 3>4[3] FEB 3>4[3] MAR 3>4[3] APR 3>4[3] MAY 3>4[2] **AA ABE-PHL SEP 3>0[3] OCT 4>0[3] NOV 4>0[3] DEC 4>0[3] JAN 4>0[3] FEB 4>0[3] MAR 4>0[3] APR 4>0[3] MAY...

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by flyfresno
Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 145
Views: 12538

Re: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020

Rumors floating around the forums that AA won't be returning to FAT-LAX after all of this. Altogether possible. AS adding LAX makes sense if AA is gone. Still, anything that far out is a guess. Speaking of guessing - One route to look at is FAT-ORD, pre-Covid - numbers were not good in Jan and Feb....

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by flyfresno
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 1461
Views: 208991

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

If we are to look at S21 schedules, the following are the routes at LAX that don’t seem to be resuming:- LAX-FAT LAX-STS LAX-RDM LAX-MFR LAX-SDF 3 out of 4 flights on LAX-SEA upgauged to mainline. AS announced FAT-LAX a few weeks ago, guess this is why. Also, AA is upguaging two PHX flights to main...

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by flyfresno
Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda Indonesia Plans DPS-LAX/SFO/PAR/BOM/DEL
Replies: 46
Views: 6404

Re: Garuda Indonesia Plans DPS-LAX/SFO/PAR/BOM/DEL

Bali is starting to get really popular with Americans...it's a super long flight, but if going for a whole week, it's probably worth it. I think it could become just as popular with American tourists as, say, New Zealand, with the right development.

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by flyfresno
Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 145
Views: 12538

Re: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020

Rumors floating around the forums that AA won't be returning to FAT-LAX after all of this.

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by flyfresno
Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 1461
Views: 208991

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

If we are to look at S21 schedules, the following are the routes at LAX that don’t seem to be resuming:- LAX-FAT LAX-STS LAX-RDM LAX-MFR LAX-SDF 3 out of 4 flights on LAX-SEA upgauged to mainline. AS announced FAT-LAX a few weeks ago, guess this is why. Also, AA is upguaging two PHX flights to main...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS to join OneWorld / AA to make SEA an Intl gateway
Replies: 1192
Views: 134189

Re: AS to join OneWorld / AA to make SEA an Intl gateway

kavok wrote:
Expect further reductions on routes that both AA and AS serve. Especially on routes from PHX and LAX to mid or smaller sized west coast cities.


AS just announced FAT-LAX...are you say AA will reduce?

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by flyfresno
Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft
Replies: 37
Views: 11061

Re: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft

I believe FDX keeps several aircraft airborne ‘on patrol’ For a sweep, a flight will be planned FAT-MEM for example, but might take a longer than normal routing in case they need to drop into PHX, COS, AFW, etc, like stated above. Crews have "forgotten" they were on a sweep flight and req...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/5/2020:LongHaul Carnage;AA Cuts Intl 2021;AS Adds in RDM;DL Out MEX-MSP,DTW-SJU,JFK-KIN;CUN Loses Routes
Replies: 59
Views: 12969

Re: OAG Changes 7/5/2020:LongHaul Carnage;AA Cuts Intl 2021;AS Adds in RDM;DL Out MEX-MSP,DTW-SJU,JFK-KIN;CUN Loses Rout

AS LAX-RDM MAR 1.0>2[1.0] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[1.0] AS RDM-SFO MAR 1.0>2[0.4] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[0.9] **AS RDM-SJC MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0] Three new flights is a lot of extra lift for an airport the size of RDM! There was one summer where AS flew 737-900's between SEA and R...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/5/2020:LongHaul Carnage;AA Cuts Intl 2021;AS Adds in RDM;DL Out MEX-MSP,DTW-SJU,JFK-KIN;CUN Loses Routes
Replies: 59
Views: 12969

Re: OAG Changes 7/5/2020:LongHaul Carnage;AA Cuts Intl 2021;AS Adds in RDM;DL Out MEX-MSP,DTW-SJU,JFK-KIN;CUN Loses Rout

AS LAX-RDM MAR 1.0>2[1.0] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[1.0]
AS RDM-SFO MAR 1.0>2[0.4] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[0.9]
**AS RDM-SJC MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0]

Three new flights is a lot of extra lift for an airport the size of RDM!

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by flyfresno
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney and airline partners
Replies: 34
Views: 5095

Re: Disney and airline partners

I remember staying at the Contemporary Resort in August 1992 and seeing Delta Airlines timetables displayed in certain locations. We coincidentally flew down to Orlando on Delta from EWR. Before Delta, Eastern was the official airline of Walt Disney World. Also in the early '90s US Air had a market...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney and airline partners
Replies: 34
Views: 5095

Re: Disney and airline partners

Why would Disney want to Partner with budget airlines. It’s not a budget vacation at all. 100% Some people are surprised at the number of Disney resorts where rooms start around $400 per night and many rooms top out well above $2000 per night (way more for luxury multi-room suites), as well as the ...

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by flyfresno
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney and airline partners
Replies: 34
Views: 5095

Re: Disney and airline partners

Ah, I see, sorry for the overexplanation. As far as renting cars go, I see a few primary reasons some people do it: visiting other area attractions (obviously), or going to grocery stores either before or during their stays (we do that quite a bit since we always stay in DVC rooms, and before my si...

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by flyfresno
Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney and airline partners
Replies: 34
Views: 5095

Re: Disney and airline partners

But you don't have to stay or eat on property. It's quite possible to do the parks on a budget, especially for passholders. This is starting to get way off topic for an airline forum, but as a former passholder who has tried it both ways (we visited on 9 separate occasions one year and have been an...

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by flyfresno
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney and airline partners
Replies: 34
Views: 5095

Re: Disney and airline partners

Why would Disney want to Partner with budget airlines. It’s not a budget vacation at all. 100% Some people are surprised at the number of Disney resorts where rooms start around $400 per night and many rooms top out well above $2000 per night (way more for luxury multi-room suites), as well as the ...

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by flyfresno
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney and airline partners
Replies: 34
Views: 5095

Re: Disney and airline partners

Magical Express is complimentary with a resort room reservation, whether or not you’ve purchased a package with it or just the hotel room. Of course, I just didn't think I needed to add that level of complexity as it seemed insignificant to the conversation. Also, despite the complementary Magical ...

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by flyfresno
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney and airline partners
Replies: 34
Views: 5095

Re: Disney and airline partners

Partnership wise thinking along the lines of how you can choose a rental car company when booking vacation packages. If you are renting a car on a vacation that only includes WDW, you are doing it wrong. Between the high cost of parking, the extra time to get to the lots from the parks (it can take...

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by flyfresno
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney and airline partners
Replies: 34
Views: 5095

Re: Disney and airline partners

Former passholder and long-time WDW fan here... Disney really doesn't have one major airline partner, but rather has a bunch of smaller marketing agreements. When you book a Disney vacation, the packages generally include the Magical Express (MCO to WDW bus), resort stay, tickets, and maybe a dining...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES;AC Cuts BDL;AS Adds DLG/AKN;B6 Chops August;TK Back to ATL/BOS?;UA Moves PQI to IAD
Replies: 68
Views: 12192

Re: OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES;AC Cuts BDL;AS Adds DLG/AKN;B6 Chops August;TK Back to ATL/BOS?;UA Moves PQI to

I searched DFW-FAT on April 22. Although looking at it again it must be an error as there is a 905 departure and a 924 departure. Take a look and see what you think? I have the same times as I listed above for the 22nd. Weird. That is strange. I am on my mobile device what are you using? I’m probab...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES;AC Cuts BDL;AS Adds DLG/AKN;B6 Chops August;TK Back to ATL/BOS?;UA Moves PQI to IAD
Replies: 68
Views: 12192

Re: OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES;AC Cuts BDL;AS Adds DLG/AKN;B6 Chops August;TK Back to ATL/BOS?;UA Moves PQI to

I’m seeing 5 daily for FAT-DFW all 738 in April 2021 in AA flight schedules. Who knows if it will stay this way given it is 10 months out. On a related note, it looks like AA made pretty significant changes to their schedule starting in April that didn’t show up on this OAG. Maybe we will see them ...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES;AC Cuts BDL;AS Adds DLG/AKN;B6 Chops August;TK Back to ATL/BOS?;UA Moves PQI to IAD
Replies: 68
Views: 12192

Re: OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES;AC Cuts BDL;AS Adds DLG/AKN;B6 Chops August;TK Back to ATL/BOS?;UA Moves PQI to

AA DFW-FAT OCT 2>4[3] NOV 2>3[3] DEC 2>3[3] JAN 2>3[2] FEB 2>3[2] MAR 2>3[2] APR 4>5[3] I'm having a hard time finding the 5th flight...does AA post their schedule updates on their website on a different day? Or was this a type-o? I’m seeing 5 daily for FAT-DFW all 738 in April 2021 in AA flight sc...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 145
Views: 12538

Re: Fresno Aviation Thread - 2020

I'm not sure if this was already in the schedules or is new, but AA is showing two flights to PHX on A319s starting in April (the terminator plus an afternoon flight). The OAG guide also shows an increase to five per day to DFW, but I am not finding that 5th flight anywhere online. Has anyone found ...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES;AC Cuts BDL;AS Adds DLG/AKN;B6 Chops August;TK Back to ATL/BOS?;UA Moves PQI to IAD
Replies: 68
Views: 12192

Re: OAG Changes 6/28/2020:CALMING SKIES;AC Cuts BDL;AS Adds DLG/AKN;B6 Chops August;TK Back to ATL/BOS?;UA Moves PQI to

enilria wrote:
AA DFW-FAT OCT 2>4[3] NOV 2>3[3] DEC 2>3[3] JAN 2>3[2] FEB 2>3[2] MAR 2>3[2] APR 4>5[3]


I'm having a hard time finding the 5th flight...does AA post their schedule updates on their website on a different day? Or was this a type-o?

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by flyfresno
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10890

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

In the case of a PHL-HNL route with an A321XLR you still have over 400nm to work with. Using your example of a B739ER and blocking off seats, the fact that they continue do it answers your question about practicality in that scenario. 1) This happened three winters ago. Over the last two winters, t...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10890

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

I'm not completely up to speed on this, but can the XLR operate from the East Coast to HI? With normal alternates / ETOPS alternates? When they start routing aircraft down south of Memphis or up north of Duluth because of a massive cold front of thunderstorms in the Midwest? When there's a "No...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10890

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

I think the best thing HA could do is get some A321XLRs. WN is the biggest new threat HA has faced in years and one way to meet that threat is to offer something WN can't - nonstop service deeper in to the Lower 48. HA seemed to do well with JFK and BOS. Perhaps something like 4x weekly to PHL and ...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10890

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

I think the best thing HA could do is get some A321XLRs. WN is the biggest new threat HA has faced in years and one way to meet that threat is to offer something WN can't - nonstop service deeper in to the Lower 48. HA seemed to do well with JFK and BOS. Perhaps something like 4x weekly to PHL and ...

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by flyfresno
Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?
Replies: 85
Views: 10890

Re: Hawaiian Airlines inter-mainland service possible?

I think a better plan would be having 1-2 nonstops a week with code-shares the other days. However, I feel like AS has better leverage than HA to do something like that with 100% their own (including express) aircraft. Of course, the 321NEO has more range, so some of those places like GEG would be b...

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by flyfresno
Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sacramento (SMF) Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 18095

Re: Sacramento (SMF) Aviation Thread - 2020

Your first points also apply to SAN: WN is by far the #1 carrier in town in all categories, with, at least previously, the most daily departures and nonstop destinations.However, AAG was rapidly gaining on WN in some regards and was clearly the 2nd largest carrier in town and it was my understandin...

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by flyfresno
Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sacramento (SMF) Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 18095

Re: Sacramento (SMF) Aviation Thread - 2020

There goes our competition and before you know it SMF-SAN is back to $189 OW. I remember not too long ago when WN had monopoly on LAS and tickets were $150-200 OW. Completely anecdotal, but everyone I know in Sac is sworn to WN and (according to them) would never, ever fly another airline, unless i...

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by flyfresno
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sacramento (SMF) Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 18095

Re: Sacramento (SMF) Aviation Thread - 2020

Completely anecdotal, but everyone I know in Sac is sworn to WN and (according to them) would never, ever fly another airline, unless it was overseas. They'll even fly WN to an airport 50 or 60 miles away from their destination over another airline to a closer airport, even at a similar fare. They ...

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by flyfresno
Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sacramento (SMF) Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 18095

Re: Sacramento (SMF) Aviation Thread - 2020

There goes our competition and before you know it SMF-SAN is back to $189 OW. I remember not too long ago when WN had monopoly on LAS and tickets were $150-200 OW. Completely anecdotal, but everyone I know in Sac is sworn to WN and (according to them) would never, ever fly another airline, unless i...

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by flyfresno
Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The most distant/inconvenient airports to their city
Replies: 50
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Re: The most distant/inconvenient airports to their city

Just off the top of my head and in the US, DEN, DTW, MCI, OAJ; to lesser extents PIT, SMF, and RSW. RSW, really!! :stirthepot: It is a 20 minute drive from the airport to downtown Ft. Myers. While I agree no rail service from RSW, it would take longer than driving unless the train did not make any ...

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