All in all, LAX and JFK will likely to be the biggest losers from this, though I see just about every hub except for CLT & DFW "losing" a lot, at least in the short term. Long term, places like ORD & DCA will be fine. I don't get how AA can get through this if they shrink JFK/LAX ...
Jump to postActually likely the opposite, airlines like NK, B6, F9 rely more on higher load factors with ancillary fees. They are at higher risk with lower bookings as their margins are already thin. Moreover business people are more likely to travel because they have to be there then the leisure travel of the...
Jump to postFor all y’all touting AA for offering so many seats to CLE they clearly aren’t doing so well on the route. NYC has had a 60% LF for the past 2 years... No one's touting anything about AA that I've seen-- just remarkable that AA will have more frequencies than UA this summer. Presumably AA's loads w...
Jump to postWell, since this thread is already reaching:
1. New terminal plan which is designed for the passenger volume & easy connections
2. Rolling banks finally (or again depending on perspectives) to reduce taxi times...
3. Some random AA route, HNL seems to be the crowd sourced favorite
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avtcle wrote:I’m not sure what happened with my NK numbers but I’m pretty sure I intended Spirt CLE-PHX to be CLE-FLL.
Spirit CLE-FLL: 82%
United CLE-IAD: 87%
By comparison: Columbus 4 50 seaters CRJ and E140, 2E175 total 352 seats. Identical capacity on Delta. Pittsburgh 6 50 seaters 2E175 total 452 seats. PIT has one more flight on Delta. We will see if Delta does anything. I imagine Dca is taking longer for AA because they want to add slots. DL might ...
Jump to postAA CLE-LGA schedule change loaded: Switch from 4x daily E140 — 200 daily seats Switch to 4x daily E175 — 304 daily seats Net gain of 104 daily seats from CLE-LGA It looks like the equipment change is loaded through laborday/just after, come fall it reverts back to the e140. Oddly enough, through th...
Jump to postThe writing was on the wall for FL with the cutback to LGA and DCA. Why the heck keep low yield FL going with brutal, rapidly expanding competition from F9 and NK when they aren’t willing to keep service alive to major business centers. I hope they keep LAX but the story down the turnpike with path...
Jump to postIt's hard to blame a large company's woes on 1 person. No, It isn't. Not when that one person is Chairman and CEO of the company. Everything starts with him and filters down. Parker is ultimately responsible for everything that happens at the airline, whether he initiated it or not, which is exactl...
Jump to postBack to rumors that are true. UA is ending LGA and DCA per PD. Love the hoo haa in the article about adding seats to IAD and EWR. Don’t believe that. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/01/united-airlines-dropping-nonstop-service-from-cleveland-hopkins-to-laguardia-reagan-national.html Have som...
Jump to postIt appears that AA just cut 30% of the eagle routes at JFK... it surprises me that AA would choose to serve Richmond over Toronto through JFK. Are we sure these are cuts and not just adjustments for May? Looking ahead to June, CLE still shows 2x JFK on aa.com. I’m wondering if these are partly Max ...
Jump to postWent to the Airspace Lounge at CLE this morning, and they said they are closing at the end of the month. Kinda a bummer to lose a not affiliated lounge, but hoping they replace it with another lounge that Priority Pass accepts. That is a shame, did they say why it was closing? Could be coincidence ...
Jump to postWent to the Airspace Lounge at CLE this morning, and they said they are closing at the end of the month. Kinda a bummer to lose a not affiliated lounge, but hoping they replace it with another lounge that Priority Pass accepts. That is a shame, did they say why it was closing? Could be coincidence ...
Jump to post[twoid][/twoid] The DFW reductions are definitely not expected, tough to reconcile what is happening with pure demand vs. MAX situation vs. AA's position in the market overall, which right now isn't great. Maybe the combination of Spirit's yield-depressing effect and the MAX-generated lift shortage ...
Jump to postThe "leakage" has always been a highly overrated thing on a.net. Unless you're in some small city/large town (i.e. the like of FWA or SBN in Indiana) with relatively limited amount of flight option (thus more expensive tickets), you just fly from your local airport, period. I've been sayi...
Jump to postWow at Chicago to Europe. Every route they have added in the last 2-3 years has been exceeding expectations. Not surprised by the increased frequencies. Apologies for the skepticism and if I’m missing sarcasm, but for an underperforming company that thinks the Max and mechanics are the root of the ...
Jump to postB6 is killing AA on short-haul out of JFK. I have to wonder if AA might consider leasing out slots soon. The reason why JFK gets discussed like that is because it's a Level 3 slot-restricted airport (maximum 83 movements per hour). The question now is: if AA has to eventually give up those slots, w...
Jump to postGawd, no more growth at CLT, please! It is already bursting at the seams and becoming my least favorite airport to connect through. While the current cosmetic refreshing is nice, I guess, it does nothing to alleviate the fact that the concourses are too narrow and sometimes impossible to navigate t...
Jump to post^ I'm guessing the DFW reduction is MAX-related. The JFK cut is not CLE-specific, AA is taking a huge ax to JFK, trying to make JFK into an O&D airport and concentrate TATL connections in PHL.They're cutting LGA as well (so far not CLE-LGA). AA is under investor pressure to improve earnings NOW...
Jump to postjfklganyc wrote:You have to wonder how much longer AA can hold out in NY?
Even LGA is seeing cuts.
If I was WN or B6 I would be calling AA about an NYC asset sale.
For AA, it's not about skipping the hub. AA has hubs or focus cities in 9 of the top ten metro areas, the only exception being Houston. 90% of trips start or end in one of these 10 metro areas. So over 80% of trips are between the top 10 metro areas. AA just needs to increase focus on flying from t...
Jump to postI don't see how they can give up on new York market and expect this to happen. That would be a big step to get serious about one of the largest markets in the country, second might be to focus on getting people from A to B, not only deal with the operational challenges, but might be time to rethink...
Jump to postAnybody know the future milestones or timelines for LGA construction? What’s next? They’ve been pretty quiet on the dates, but I believe the new Central building for Terminal B is opening next year, which will enable the removal of the current landslide building. The last phase of B will be buildin...
Jump to postAnd 6. Think twice about reintroducing the 737MAX even if the FAA lifts the ban. Yes it is true that American was one of the launch customers of the MAX about a decade ago or so, but they have been postponing deliveries and passengers were not very satisfied with the newest variant of the 737, so I...
Jump to postI don't see how they can give up on new York market and expect this to happen. That would be a big step to get serious about one of the largest markets in the country, second might be to focus on getting people from A to B, not only deal with the operational challenges, but might be time to rethink...
Jump to postCompared to UA and AA, which fly or will fly to numerous exotic destinations, Delta seems to have a lack of international presence outside of their partner hubs. They have skipped out on serving cities like HKG, DEL, TPE, and AKL, in favor of KLM, Korean, and Virgin metal. Why is it that AA and UA ...
Jump to post$40 million / 14 airplanes / 90 days = $31,700 daily revenue per airframe. I think that’s reasonable. Probably, they could have updated guidance if that was the case and probably taken the hit earlier.. I’m kind of curious what the impact of the FF changes will be over the next 12-24 months. I thin...
Jump to postWhat do you think the revenue miss was from 14 grounded aircraft? How many spares do you think UA schedules in the summer across mainline and UX? The search for excuses is endless. $40 million / 14 airplanes / 90 days = $31,700 daily revenue per airframe. I think that’s reasonable. Probably, they c...
Jump to postEven if it the same plane, I think they usually make everyone get off now so they can check to make sure you have passports when you get on at the last domestic stop. I think these are pretty infrequent, and even for the flights that do exist, passengers are asked to deplane... for international, I...
Jump to postWas just reading the Jet Blue to London thread. Would a one stop B6 CLE - BOS - London (i.e. no plane change) work? I think Pan Am and TWA used to do that back in the day. I'm not even sure airlines do that anymore. Even if it the same plane, I think they usually make everyone get off now so they c...
Jump to postInteresting article somewhat relevant to this topic. https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/american-airlines-just-gave-a-perfect-painfully-detailed-explanation-for-why-passengers-prefer-delta.html Wow that was terrible logic.... AA had 4FAs, 3 min on most MD80 flights, yes AMR went to 160 on the 738...
Jump to postUnrelated to CAK, the CLE Wikipedia page (I know, not the most reliable source) now lists Miami as seasonally being on AA mainline equipment. Is this true? If so, what equipment is used and what time of the year is mainline deployed on the route? Did some random searches out to July 2020 and it’s s...
Jump to postPhoenix757767 wrote:No they used Doug’s POR, not Horton’s.
They paid Horton $20 million to leave. The Creditors sent him packing and Wall Street had no confidence in his standalone AA plan. I’m not sure if that’s entirely fair to say he was sent packing, DP sought out & secured union support before ever approaching Horton which made any plan for emergi...
Jump to postI hate to disappoint you but Doug Parker is not going anywhere. AA is returning money to its shareholder and generating lots of fees for the Wall Street folks origininating and/or holding its debt. Many of you seem to forget that we still live in very low and sometimes negative yields. AA is a cash...
Jump to postVery sad AA is dumping Chicago to Tokyo, I can understand dumping China but Japan seemed more stable. Agreed, it is sad, the worlds largest airline can’t make anything to APAC work out of the norther half of the US.... honestly JAL has a better product in J and better pricing in my experience - eli...
Jump to postDid I miss it, but is AA canceling all CLE-JFK services, at least seasonally? I had flights booked to Europe in November and December via JFK and the scheduled changed to flights via LGA (with an airport change at my expense, of course) and and a double connect via JFK & CLT on the return. I wa...
Jump to postIt’s been a mystery to me why AA reinstated CLE lga. Bad schedule bad aircraft esp compared to Delta so this is very welcome at least they are paying attention. Load factors to lga have been mediocre for all but yields must be ok. I suspect it was corporate contracts which got them back in the game...
Jump to postSo not trying to start anything, but did anyone else find it funny that AAs video cited PTV as a reason people love flying the newer planes? https://www.facebook.com/AmericanAirlines/videos/10153738965596078?sfns=xmwa Disappointed My schedule didn’t allow for me to travel on one of the last flights ...
Jump to postSome route news: Spirit resumes flights from CLE to TPA & RSW this week — a very early return for what was dubbed as a “winter” route. Great to see! Also, looks like AA is shifting their 6AM departure to LGA to an E175, as opposed to the current E140. Trying to take on Delta by adding a first c...
Jump to postYou are seriously right in most things. 1) Sure, storms and weather are not the airline fault. But, at least as I see it, there were also mechanical issues and crew issues involved in this particular flight. DL975 was many hours (18) delayed, while, for instance, AA had between 3 and 5 hours delay ...
Jump to postIs a worldwide phenomena. Now, passengers are hostages of airlines. Maybe because this non-interference of the state on their policies has made us completely defenseless of the airlines. Similar goes, for example, for phone and internet providers. They call you on the phone, explain you a lot of th...
Jump to postGetting stuck on the plane would be terrible, but an overnight delay at JFK? There are much, much worse things. Yeah, and there was a screaming baby the row behind me for half of the tour... sadly i was happy when the kid found joy running in the aisle and punching me in the arm after a while... I ...
Jump to postBecause the American market is obsessed with frequency.... I would suspect most Avgeeks on here would much prefer widebodies and a few less flights a day. As said before, this excuse doesn’t really hold up when United flys EWR-SFO 14 times a day with 5 777’s, 1 787 and nothing smaller then a 757. W...
Jump to postHow long is Delta going to keep this practice up? They are going to be known as the airline that won't cancel a flight no matter how many hours in order to avoid accommodating passengers at hotels and giving compensation. Delta used to be better than this. I was once on a delayed CVG-MCO flight for...
Jump to postHow long is Delta going to keep this practice up? They are going to be known as the airline that won't cancel a flight no matter how many hours in order to avoid accommodating passengers at hotels and giving compensation. Delta used to be better than this. I was once on a delayed CVG-MCO flight for...
Jump to postI flew an aa 321t from bos to jfk a little over a year ago. I guess as part of the lax rotation? Not bad for such a short flight :). F seats on a J ticket (bos-jfk-eze). Not sure whether the business seats are sold as y (the 2x2 flat seats) The a321T was scheduled as a jfk-BOS rotation for some tim...
Jump to postAttached is an article I found on the proposed updates: https://onemileatatime.com/americans-latest-plans-to-update-unpopular-737s/ Based on this article and recent thread posts - a couple of my thoughts: 1. AA vs DL density: A319 - AA128 and DL132, A320 - AA150 and DL157, A321 - AA187 (v2) and DL1...
Jump to postJust for reference, AA has about 15 of those A321T’s. There is a ton of frequency between JFK/BOS to SFO/LAX. Seems to be working out great. No complaints that I’ve really heard of. While it would be great to ride a wide body, if made to be comfortable a narrow body can’t be beat I agree, it’s a gr...
Jump to postHow does First Class on the A321 compare to First Class on the 767-200 that flew those routes for decades? The A321T was a significant upgrade for AA over the 762 in all the cabins, F had been in a 1x2x1 config which became a 1x1 config on the 321T and J went from a 2x2x2 confit to just 2x2. So far...
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