The total 'grounding cost' of the Boeing 737 MAX is approaching the total development cost of the Airbus A380.Jump to post
Sorry, but I'm not buying the story that flights are returning in significant numbers in Europe. Have you tried traveling anywhere recently? It is next to impossible due to an almost complete lack of flights. It takes several days to get to even major cities. (...) This is the same situation as 1 a...Jump to post
afterburner wrote:drdisque wrote:Also, at least in this immediate post COVID period, all the short-haul (intra-continental) traffic is leisure/VFR and there's little to no business demand.
This also makes flight frequency less important than before. Larger aircraft makes more sense.
To me the obvious extra retirements would be the 747. They own them all, so they're easy to retire, and were already going to be retired by 2024 just when demand will start to recover. Isn't it impossible to tell when demand will start to recover? If a vaccin would be available early next year, why...Jump to post
(...) Norway has strict entry measures. Citizens from many countries aren't welcome before the 20th of August. No midnight sun in Norway for me this year unfortunately. Too bad, because I am sure it would be safe. It is extended to 20th August now for other European countries ? Damn! I was hoping t...Jump to post
I thought only people from Denmark, Iceland and Finland can travel to Norway till 20th July? At the moment that is correct, I believe. Norway has strict entry measures. Citizens from many countries aren't welcome before the 20th of August. No midnight sun in Norway for me this year unfortunately. T...Jump to post
That is simply wrong. (...) is just one of the recent studies that concludes that wearing a mask is relevant to prevention. I'm not going to argue with you, as it appears you've made up your mind, never mind any pesky facts. Maybe you should read part of my previous statement again. Most people usi...Jump to post
Experts in my country, the Netherlands, have stated many times that face masks don't provide extra security. Nonsense. You are either mis-representing your "experts", or quoting non-experts. The experience of the rest of the world is against your statement. Absolutely not. Our prime minis...Jump to post
IADCA wrote:Which the OP subsequently clarified, and I acknowledged...
hoons90 wrote:For a COVID-19 related example, LX ZRH-KIX inaugurated on March 1st and operated until March 18th. It's possible that this route will return, though.
I suspect there are fewer where the airline actually took bookings for the new route and then decided not to start it when it was two weeks away from launching, which seems relevant to what the OP was asking. But sure, you go on and decide what "counts" or not. Shortest time between inaug...Jump to post
MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:Northwest, Amsterdam-Bengaluru. I believe cancelled the day it was scheduled to begin.
Experts in my country, the Netherlands, have stated many times that face masks don't provide extra security. Regular measures, like staying at home when having symptoms, don't shake hands, cough in your elbow, wash hands, are more than enough. Most people using face masks are actually enlarging the ...Jump to post
Masks do in fact make a difference, and I'd want mask wearing to be 100% enforced on an airplane. Every time I see someone wearing a mask, I think to myself what is this person doing here? Is this person ill or contagious? Why is this person travelling and not at home? Masks give me an unsafe feeli...Jump to post
Speaking of methods that would be useful, one very useful one would be to allow sick passengers and companions to cancel or rebook without cost. The current system actively encourages sick people to travel. But we all know airlines aren't going to do that... :checkmark: Indeed. That would be very u...Jump to post
I think I prefer to wait until this is all over. I trust people to not travel when they have symptoms. No need for all this cleaning and face mask mania. These measures don't give me any confidence, they are just annoying.Jump to post
KLM Boeing 747-400 (although three of them are still flying)
Delta MD-88 and MD-90
SAS A340 (not officially announced)
Air Canada B767
Other airlines B757 and A340
jhz94 wrote:It is ridiculous that you for the same price as taking the train or a taxi to the airport can fly from Scandinavia to the Canaries nowadays.
It's 4 ½ hours by train from Vienna to Munich while Vienna to Milan takes about 14 hours (change in Switzerland) and Vienna to Berlin about 9 hours, even Vienna to Zurich is the best part of 8 hours. Those are long travel times. The train certainly offers no real competition on the last three route...Jump to post
And face it, nobody likes being squashed into a turboprop or CRJ for a ridiculous 30 minute flight. The people I met in Norway on 8 min DHC-8 flights seemed happy. And so did the people in Alaska on 10 min B737 flights. Personally I love short flights in small aircraft. Especially when they cross f...Jump to post
Things are changing. "Normal" isn't going to come back. How do you know at this point? Air pollution levels in Paris are almost back to what they used to be. Factories in China are already producing as much as they did before this crisis. Schools in the Netherlands are back to normal. Man...Jump to post
Is the railway system really that competitive in Europe? I remember some years ago I had to travel to northern Netherlands (Franker) and then to the south (Maastricht). Both times I flew into AMS from where I took a train to my final destination. Personally, it was horrible with so many stops, chan...Jump to post
This will benefit Bratislava. LH might not want to continue with the OS brand. And people will not want to travel to Vienna for a weekend getaway. People will not want to travel to Vienna, because the air fare has a minimum price of 40,00 EUR? What kind of people are we talking about? Poor people o...Jump to post
It's not about what Mr. Bose did during his life. It's how he died. To name an airport after someone who died in an airplane crash can be considered strange. That's the only connection.Jump to post
PatrickZ80 wrote:Surprised nobody mentioned the United Airlines island hopper route from Honolulu to Guam on a 737. HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM.
I have never taken a Ryanair flight. I think that will remain the case. Even if they would offer free flights, I'd rather stay home. Lately I have become pretty good at staying at home actually. Up until today I have spent seventy days in a row at less than one kilometre from my house. So far sixtee...Jump to post
(...) With all those 747, 777 and the A380. Now they shrink down to smaller twins in size. Shocking to see this in some way. The sign has been clear since the fall of Berlin Wall. The slow but deep structural change in air transport is on going. This crisis only accelerates some required changes. W...Jump to post
MIflyer12 wrote:They certainly could get 100 MAXs faster than 100 A220s - even recognizing the A220s they have on order.
You can start by replacing older relatively low buildings by structures that have twenty to thirty floors. No need for 1,000 foot skyscrapers. How about coming back to us with that opinion when you get a job based in downtown San Francisco (where there's little new space and overwhelming demand for...Jump to post
TUGMASTER wrote:You CANNOT walk to The LHR central area anymore.
Albert12 wrote:You CANNOT walk to The LHR central area anymore
Possibly, it depends. Boston doesn’t need a “serious” skyscraper, anyway. What a weird post. What city needs a serious skyscraper?? If any it would be Boston given how densely populated the city is and lack of land. All you can do is build up. You don't need serious skyscrapers for that. You can st...Jump to post
What real aviation geek complains about the 777 sound or just the 777 in general? I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone actually say they dislike the sound of the 777, but there’s a first for everything. I remember seeing my first 777 at Amsterdam Airport around 1995/1996. I believe United Airlines w...Jump to post
Was looking at flights and prices at KLM's website yesterday. Came across quite affordable fares to Toronto during autumn. Noticed the operating type listed as Boeing 747M. How is this possible? Why keep this aircraft in the booking engine?Jump to post
Not the faltering world trade but the capacity restrictions at Schiphol hold the Dutch air cargo sector in a hold. (...) "Because Lelystad Airport will not be opened in 2020 and airports of Eindhoven and Rotterdam are also reaching their limits..." Not sure what limit we are talking about...Jump to post
Surprised by the number of KLM flights. KLM announced on 4 May that it would gradually add flights to its reduced European network. From that day KLM offers one daily flight to the following extra destinations: Barcelona, Budapest, Helsinki, Madrid, Milan, Prague, Rome and Warsaw. The flights are o...Jump to post
After the stories last year about the 6-year old boy in Oregon who got tetanus and ran up an $800K medical bill, I figured it's pretty reasonable to require tetanus vaccinations for travel. I was shocked to find out that some countries like the UK don't routinely give TDaP boosters the way we do in...Jump to post
If it was indeed 20 years ago that you visited Berlin Tegel (Summer 2000), your Atlantic flight sector NW68 AMS-DTW was operated by NW B747. You can check the timetable yourself. http://northwestairlineshistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/NW-schedule-2000-06-01.pdf Except NW68 operated the other...Jump to post
Fair enough. I think all airlines would need to do is not to disclose the aircraft type on booking (which many airlines don't do anyway) and then say '737' on the safety card or something like that. What? I think all airlines should publicly reject the 737 MAX. Personally I never book flights if th...Jump to post
I see EK as the Pan Am of my time. (...) But the oil crisis swept them off their feet, and many agree that the $530 million order for 25 747's aimed to make Pan Am bigger, was ironically the first nail in their coffin. That sounds like a really good deal, though. Were 747's really that cheap back i...Jump to post
planecane wrote:There will be a vaccine in 2 years max.
I’m Dutch and I honestly don’t know why people here like Pieter Elbers and hate Ben Smith. Ben Smith is working to achieve a IAG-like structure, a good thing in my opinion. I never liked Pieter Elbers, but I do respect him for returning KLM back to profitability. Maybe you should ask the more than ...Jump to post
FlyingBlueKLM, a question about you signature. KJFK - EGLL: Concorde: 2 hours, 52 minutes, and 59 seconds Boeing 747: 6 hours, and 45 minutes Flying between JFK and LHR usually takes less than 6 hours and 45 minutes. Why was this Boeing 747 so slow? The current record for the type is 4 hours and 56 ...Jump to post
Basic flying skills are needed in every aircraft and the pilots that crashed the MAX lacked those. Thrust speed and pitch are 2 basic things to look at, they failed miserably. Those pilots would have crashed any plane that develops a fault. Ridiculous comment. The ET pilot had over 8,000 hours. Oth...Jump to post
Video of parked SAS, Norwegian and other airlines parked at Copenhagen airport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gl08upuEyY this is just sad to watch ... This reminds me of my planespotting holiday at Copenhagen Airport in 2010. Shortly after landing almost the entire European airspace closed becau...Jump to post
This whole "will emerge a smaller airline" is bullshit. (...) 3 years from now, DL will be operating more daily flights than they were prior to this outbreak. We are looking at maybe 5 years to just get back to 2019 levels, This is unprecedented, huge and will change worldwide travel fore...Jump to post