For full-service carriers they might disappear, but for low-cost airlines (with a buy-on-board program) that won't easily be the case. The in-flight magazine also serves as a catalogue and price list for their on-board offerings. If they don't provide passengers with their magazine anymore, people ...Jump to post
CGK's approach 07R is actually quite boring, since you mainly fly over a bunch of slums, and thats about it.Jump to post
There are also a bunch of SE.Asia-USA TPAC flights during the 1980s and 1990s that are routed like this:
Does DPS even need TPAC flights? since even larger Southeast Asian cities like CGK, KUL or even BKK (which has much more TPAC demand than DPS or even CGK) can't even sustain TPAC demand due to all the cheap Chinese airlines with the 737-800 fleets dumping capacity onto Southeast Asia.Jump to post
Thank you. It will be interesting to see wether, or better, when the Covid-19-crisis leads to the retirement of the first 77W frames. The 10 ex-Jet Aw 77Ws are standing around since more than 12 months now, and that in less than favourable condition, It looks like Thai Aw. might retire their small ...Jump to post
In wake of the Coronavirus and the economic slowdown associated with it, Thailand's NokScoot will be liquidated, citing from this: BOARD OF DIRECTORS PASS RESOLUTION TO LIQUIDATE NOKSCOOT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - . Bangkok, 26 June 2020 - NokScoot regrets to announce that its Board of D...Jump to post
Can't really find a legitimate source for it, but there are rumors on facebook because somebody leaked some information from a TG board meeting that TG will kill off WE, and will reintroduce mainline flights on Thailand domestic routes, with widebodies, and a true J product. Such poor decision maki...Jump to post
Can't really find a legitimate source for it, but there are rumors on facebook because somebody leaked some information from a TG board meeting that TG will kill off WE, and will reintroduce mainline flights on Thailand domestic routes, with widebodies, and a true J product.Jump to post
Back in 1990(?), TG briefly flew to HEL via DUS for 2 months before killing it off due to the recession caused by the Gulf War.
KLMatSJC wrote:TheEuphorian wrote:Also the TG 777-200A retirements, which now leaves UA as the last 772A operator.
I thought I heard a rumor that there was still a chance of them coming back.
Also the TG 777-200A retirements, which now leaves UA as the last 772A operator.Jump to post
TG's frequent flyer program, Royal Orchid Plus, is now not allowing people to do mileage redemptions on TG flights.
Thai Airways only has one scheduled 787 route left - Bangkok to Auckland. Is it possible they haven't updated this route yet? The rest are on the 777s. Is it safe to say Thai Airways is truly getting rid of its 787s? https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/291638/thai-airways-internationa...Jump to post
Adding to the fact on why TG is suffering from LCC competition, is that its main LCC competitor, Thai Airasia, is linked to a political party in Thailand, which granted them a political and business advantage, which TG does not have, thus resulting in TG being superseded in every aspect by Airasia.Jump to post
VRHNM wrote:Is there any information regarding TG's plan with their 744s in the coming months?
Thailand's government has officially reduced its stake in TG down to 48% from 51%, effectively ending TG's status as a state enterprise. Source(in Thai): https://www.thansettakij.com/content/435500?fbclid=IwAR0jCYBj6C-gasiLow2CAS1OZQ-xOVsHlCikWOHOS6WL0WZRLISjmoBK_Ko Also, there are unverified report...Jump to post
I am not too sure what they plan to do with Thai Smile in the future. They started off as a LCC (despite retaining some elements of the 'Thai' brand name), and then moved slightly more premium, but still less-so than mainline TG... So does the current 'hybrid-like' Thai Smile compete effectively wi...Jump to post
The governments of countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and alike need to realise they don't need state backed airlines. The airline groups like Lion, AirAsia, SQ group, Jetstar, some strong Vietnam holdings(VietJet), etc can well serve all these markets and countries more efficiently and p...Jump to post
Does anyone know if CZ, EK, and AF had 3-4-3 in the 90s when the 777 was first introduced? What is interesting is that CZ, went with 3-3-3 on its 773s. On that topic, TG initially had 3-4-3 in Y and 2-4-2 in J on its 772A fleet when they introduced it in 1996, but it was changed to 3-3-3 in Y and 2...Jump to post
There are a bunch of former TG 747-400, A340-500 and A340-600 still sitting in the TG maintainance apron in UTP, alongside a L-1011, 737-400, and a bunch of turboprop aircraft. http://firstname.lastname@example.org,101.0128371,172m/data=!3m1!1e3 Meanwhile, in DMK, there is a former TG A300B4-600R a...Jump to post
Thai Airways International labor union has rejected the government’s bailout proposal, which is said to open the possibility of the airline becoming a privately-owned company. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/business/2020/05/08/thai-airways-union-opposes-privatization-under-bailout-plans/ Also,...Jump to post
Just a few days ago DL has been flying the A350-900 between HNL and UTP in Thailand as a military charter, and possibly the first appearance of the US3 since 2016 when DL ceased the NRT-BKK flights back in 2016. Bangkok, for the right or wrong purposes, is a popular tourist destination..I always wo...Jump to post
Also, they have also been restructured in part of this deal:
-Original TG will become a holding company
-All aircraft and flight operations will be transferred to WE
-Ground staff will be controlled by AOT(Thai airport operator)
More: Vietnam Airlines 767-300ER(Continental NTU Frame): 0070306 Tigerair/Mandala hybrid scheme A320-200(2012-2014): 2110075 Batavia Air A330-200 leased from EI: 2122511 BA 747-400 wetleased to QF with world tails livery: 0167180 Lion Air Yak-42: 0139569 Dragonair L-1011: 1066746 UA 747SP with PA hy...Jump to post
International: BKK-KIX(incl. Kobe/Kyoto/Nara/Himeji)-BKK: TG A388/77W
Domestic: BKK-CEI-BKK: WE A320
Aeroflot 777-200ER: 1676181 Aeroflot had two 777-200ER from 1998 to 2005, so around seven years. That was not really "short lived". I agree - not short lived at all. This would also apply to the suggestion WAY up thread of AA 747. No way that was "short lived." I know it's not s...Jump to post
TG 737-200(Adv), A310-200, and A310-300: 0203154 2049846 0157600 All 3 types are inherited from the TH merger; 737-200 were quickly replaced by the 737-400 by the early 1990s, while the A310 fleet lasted only until the late 1990s, and also HS-TID(A310-300) crashed in 1992, and HS-TIA(A310-200) also ...Jump to post
From BKK, with rows of TG widebodies confined on the taxiway:
https://www.facebook.com/love.loveairpl ... 2759296259
Only one so far:
-LH BKK-CGK, in 2005 (5th freedom; later changed to FRA-KUL-CGK and then terminated in the mid 2010s.
Side note does Thai move a lot of freight? 79 passengers on a A330 doesn't even pay for the fuel. Have you been following the news at all in the last couple of months? :innocent: Thai Airways only operates widebodies. The airline does have a subsidiary named Thai Smile that operates A320s. I wonder...Jump to post
LH also used to operate daily FRA-BKK, continuing on alternate days BKK-SGN or BKK-KUL. There are still quite a lot around SE Asia as well. KL KUL-CGK and SIN-DPS, ET and MK on SIN-KUL, CX BKK-SIN, soon EK on SIN-PEN. There's also BR on BKK-LHR/VIE/AMS too. Just off the top of my head. Matter of fa...Jump to post
GA was originally going to order the 777-200ER but delayed it due to the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis, and it was converted to a 787 order, then once again to a 77W order that was eventually delivered. SQ almost ordered the MD-11 but went with A340-300s instead. Air Siam(Thai airline that got shut do...Jump to post
Another question. From the looks of it there is no in-seat power in the above photos, yet some people have said that even the old TG 777s have it. Which type (110/230V or USB), if true? And how are the IFE screens: do they have a slow response on touch? Also, how is BKK? Surely it is neither a flye...Jump to post
I flew on HS-TJC, HS-TKD, HS-TJS, HS-TJT, HS-TKE on numerous flights, in Y: HS-TJC: flew this plane back from CGK in 2014, and during takeoff, there was some shaking and rattling coming from the right wing, and it turns out that this particular plane diverted to DAD in Vietnam in 2001 due to an fuel...Jump to post
Meanwhile, TG in Thailand brings lots of tourists here, but with the cost of being extremely unprofitable.
At this point, it's probably best to pull a SR-style move by liquidating and letting WE,which is a TG subsidiary, to take over operations completely.
While not an entirely closed airport, or even terminal, I did depart and arrive in and out of DMK T2, which was closed from 2006 up until around 2015/2016, shortly before it closed down in 2006. Matter of fact, I went there in around 2013, and through the temporary walls and windows, there are still...Jump to post
DMK/Don Mueang, Bangkok- Closed from 2006-2007 after BKK opened and during 2011-2012 due to flooding, and it is now a LCC hub and airbase JKT/Jakarta-Kemyoran - Closed in the 1980s when CGK construction started; now demolished HLP/Halim PK, Jakarta - Used temporarily as international airport during ...Jump to post
PatrickZ80 wrote:Wasn't there a seasonal Alaska - Siberia flight somewhere? It was only a few flights a year, still it counts as international from the US.