With the huge 787 order, does that mean that Thai Airways is basically coalescing around just 2 fleet types: A320 and 787? The amount of 787s ordered is greater than their current wide-body fleet count now. Europe is well within reach of the 787-10 from BKK, meaning I could see a mix of B789s and B...
Jump to postA bunch of LCC/Charter start-ups here in Thailand started with widebodies only, especially the 767: Business Air, JetAsia, SkyStar Airlines, and Asia Atlantic all used the Boeing 767 (both -200 and -300) Thai Sky Airlines started up with two ex-Delta L-1011 operating between 2004-2006 Oh yes, I als...
Jump to postA bunch of LCC/Charter start-ups here in Thailand started with widebodies only, especially the 767:
Business Air, JetAsia, SkyStar Airlines, and Asia Atlantic all used the Boeing 767 (both -200 and -300)
Thai Sky Airlines started up with two ex-Delta L-1011 operating between 2004-2006
Bangkok Post reported yesterday on the possible TG order for 787s. Thai Airways has placed a firm order for 45 Boeing 787 jets, with options potentially boosting the size of the deal to around 80 aircraft as it serves rising international travel demand, industry sources said. The deal, to be formal...
Jump to posthttps://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=890788473054618&set=a.482719080528228 Incoming 787-9 LN746 (GEnx / ex-Bamboo) as an addiction for Boeing fleet. This might confirm tension between TG and RR and increase the possibility of GE engine selection for huge future 787 orders. I am not so sure abou...
Jump to postI am not so sure about this strategy... hope it works out for them. I could - perhaps - understand the rationale for a business class on the 321 on priority routes where they can't deploy the widebody they used to operate. But the 320.... why it is needed? Because one influential person complained?...
Jump to postIn the 1960, Brazil's REAL flew GIG-CGH-LIM-BOG-MEX-LAX-HNL-AWK-HND with Super Constellation. If they got the CV-990, probably the stops would be the same. For a while, JAL had a DC-8 in LAX just to fly to VCP. The sector LAX-JPN was flown by 747. TG also did something similar with an A310 statione...
Jump to postGeography - Bangkok (and Southeast Asia in general) are basically too far from the mainland US for it to be worth flying compared to nearer (and higher demand) East Asian cities, and as a result, usually requires premium heavy ULR aircraft to fly. Demand - Bangkok doesn't really possess the TPAC dem...
Jump to postI've drove past a coffee place down in Chonburi called Coffee War 331 that has a A330, 747, L1011 and a 737... The 747 being the latest addition. went there twice, first time when only the A330 was open, and the second time when the L-1011 was opened The A330 was filled with random TG seats, includ...
Jump to postA few strange ones from Southeast Asian airlines (answered these once in a past thread, but whatever) Most of these are flown for purely political/"national pride" reasons: TG: Bangkok-Noumea Bangkok-Tokyo-Seattle-Dallas Bangkok-???-Vancouver-Toronto Bangkok-Gaya-Varanasi-Bangkok (Buddhist...
Jump to postAt this point I legitimately think they are trying to become Southeast Asia's equivalent to TK as a way to fight the ME3, but that isn't even enough of a reason to buy 80 787s In reality, I think its going to end up as a split Airbus-Boeing order anyways with A350s and 787s (along with the possibil...
Jump to postSooner or later someone will call a halt to this madness. TG do not need 80 787. Thailand is mostly a leisure destination and plenty will take a one-stop option to save money. They will do well to hold what they have given all the new competition that is coming from airlines with much deeper pocket...
Jump to postIIRC EK was the first to install 3-4-3 Along with TG on their 772As that were delivered in 1996 0961770 (Image from 2005) It was only installed only in the 777-200 fleet, and the 777-300 fleet that was delivered between 1998-2000 ended up with normal 3-3-3, and so did every other 777 operated by TG...
Jump to postThe Thai diaspora is concentrated in LAX. YVR is a good 2 hours closer to BKK: so cheaper to operate. No reason for TG to return to North America- even though the Chinese carriers are limited you can still transit via Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei. Honestly, would be nice to see them do TPAC again but in th...
Jump to postThis would be a very substantial expansion, including an oblique reference to A330neos: "The airline intends to add as many as 80 twin-aisle jets in a mix of firm orders, options and purchase rights" "One of the people said the order may consist of as many as 40 aircraft from Boeing,...
Jump to postSome of my own: -The A380 would actually work for TG and the only reason it didn't is because TG was not a transfers oriented airline and the fact that it had F -ME3 and CN3 airlines ruined flying to/from Southeast Asia; most airlines from the west wont even offer non-stops to most non-BKK/SIN desti...
Jump to postThai is expecting a further 8 leased A350s to arrive in the next 12 months: "Thai expects another two A350s to arrive before the end of the year...... Amranand says over the course of next year, six more A350-900s will ferry in." https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/134220-thai-airways...
Jump to postAirasia 737-300
Thai 777-200A (amongst the oldest RR-powered 777s too)
Thai 777-300
Thai 747-400
Thai A300-600
LH CGK-BKK on a 747-430, back when SE Asia had lots of European fifth-freedom flights
Jump to postValuair (present day Jetstar Asia)
Thai Smile (soon to be folded back into TG)
In the 80s GA had 3 flights a week into LGW. DC10 originally I think, certainly a 747 in later years. But in those days they were the cheapest flights to Australia from the UK, so ideal from back packers or people on a small budget. If I remember right the flights stopped in ZRH AUH and BKK. As som...
Jump to postSoutheast Asia edition:
TG A321NEO
TG A350-1000
TG 787-10
MH A330-900
PR A350-1000
Yes those 77Ws are young, not sure how many are leased? But probably time the older ones got a cabin refit? For now work towards retiring the 77E and A330 replacing them with 781/789/359. The sensible option for the old 77Ws (HS-TK* series) is to reconfigure them into a high-density config and use ...
Jump to postAgreed makes total sense to just standardize their WB fleet around two types of aircraft only ie A350 and B787 family lines and NB around the A320Neo family line. Majority of the NBs I bet will end up being the A321Neos which is the right plane for TG in this segment category. I fully agree too tha...
Jump to posthttps://www.bangkokpost.com/business/ge ... 5-new-jets
Apparently TG is looking to acquire (not sure if lease or own) 95 aircraft
Possibly more A350-900 and A350-1000 to replace the older 77W fleet, and more 787s, and either A320Neos or 737Maxes
TG's BKK-MAN flights
has been in the planning since the 1990s, and has been hinted at as recently as a few months ago.
I'm not quite sure why TG with a shortage of aircraft is still operating just 3 A330s... you'd think with the plethora of parked 330s they'd pick up some more, even if 332s. The Former AA fleet as just one example would be ideal. Part of this is because these 3 A330 are owned, not leased. From what...
Jump to postI've always found it strange how TG, MH, and GA don't fly to the US. These 3 airlines are pretty well-known, and I think it makes sense to assume that they'd have some kind of a transpacific route network. I think the problem is that the kind of demand (probably vfr, tourism, limited business) is t...
Jump to postOn a similar note, also MES-DPS. There are no direct flights between Medan and Denpasar, not even on JT. Apparently it is more lucrative to force people to transfer in CGK first instead of operating nonstops. MES is the IATA code for the old airport serving Medan. The city is now served by Kualanam...
Jump to postTalking about possible SE Asian destinations what about Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta ? KUL is still somewhat possible, but quite hard for UA considering KUL is a OW hub, maybe AA could fly it from SEA, but they have been the weakest of the US3 on TPAC, so it won't be that likely. CGK on the otherhand c...
Jump to postDEL-CGK is an interesting one, apparently there are no flights between the busiest airport in India and the busiest airport in Indonesia. Both are large hubs and they're not too far away from each other. On a similar note, also MES-DPS. There are no direct flights between Medan and Denpasar, not ev...
Jump to postMaybe possible, with the A321LR/XLR and with its furthest destinations being EWR in the west and BOM in the east.
Jump to postAir Siam; had they survived to the present day, they would have been similar to NH or BR, and they would have put some sense into TG's own business decisions, motivating them to do more productive competition similar to JAL and ANA's own duopoly competition.
Jump to posthttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0G3fm6aBW3MiLLhdfGtkXbaBFtFcxmhXpFdnweLhDbTMkS3mzH3EBWeiDvge8BXeul&id=100066719285565&mibextid=Nif5oz Found this on a Facebook group (can't exactly find an actual news source for this) that is completely in Thai, but it states that they recei...
Jump to posthttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0G3fm6aBW3MiLLhdfGtkXbaBFtFcxmhXpFdnweLhDbTMkS3mzH3EBWeiDvge8BXeul&id=100066719285565&mibextid=Nif5oz Found this on a Facebook group (can't exactly find an actual news source for this) that is completely in Thai, but it states that they receiv...
Jump to postThe international side of FUK (Fukuoka) comes to mind; there is a subway serving the airport, but the station is on the north side of the airport, but there is no rapid transit access to/from the international terminal beyond buses.
Jump to postHKT: exiting the airport leads you onto a 4-lane highway that then leads to another 6 lane highway that is always congested because its the only major north-south route on the island. DMK: access to the airport by road is through a freeway that is always congested, and while there is a tollway above...
Jump to postI liked the old Thai livery (circa mid 80s) before all the purple appeared. That on a A350 or A380 would be interesting. if TG ever goes around to do retro liveries, the 80s colors should be painted on HS-THH, which is currently on one of TG's A350, but the registration was originally used on TG's ...
Jump to postPresent-day PA would have had a fleet similar to DL's, with A320s, A330s and A350s, with a network somewhat reminiscent of AA (strong TATL and Latin American network, weak to no TPAC at all)
Jump to postKertajati Intl Airport (KJT/WICA) in West Java, Indonesia is severely underutilized. It opened in 2018 as an alternative to the existing airport in Bandung (BDO) and to relieve congestion in CGK. However, airlines (including the flag carrier GA) pulled out not long after due to poor occupancy. This...
Jump to postTC957 wrote:Whats the latest with the TG A330's at MAN ? End-of-lease maintenance ? Aircraft going back to TG ? Cargo conversion ? Or to someone else ?
Thai will start A320 ALL ECONOMY service to India from July onwards. A recipe for desaster, flying non BusinessClass a/c on international sectors? I guess Vistara/AirIndia will be a clear winner... https://www.latestly.com/agency-news/business-news-thai-welcomes-a320-to-its-fleet-5233898.html These...
Jump to postjm2it wrote:Didn't SABENA also do the same on their 747s? I think so but not sure
TG, MH should not have ordered them, TG had some case to LHR/FRA/CDG, Japan and probably could have filled them to SYD/OSL/CPH/ARN but at what yeild? Probably would have been better off with higher density 77Ws. MH used them to LHR mainly, plus CDG until it was dropped. Not really anywhere else, fr...
Jump to postScoot ranking better than a bunch of full service legacies and other reasonable quality value carriers when they don’t even allow you to consume any food or drink you didn’t buy on their plane. Kind of feel with long haul low cost carriers, tap water should at least be free or there shouldn't be an...
Jump to postScoot ranking better than a bunch of full service legacies and other reasonable quality value carriers when they don’t even allow you to consume any food or drink you didn’t buy on their plane. Kind of feel with long haul low cost carriers, tap water should at least be free or there shouldn't be an...
Jump to postI remember in the old days, airlines charged for headphones. Does any airline charge for headphones today? probably LCCs recall that Scoot charged for headphones and sold them as a buy-on-board item JAL's Zipair also does the same think Norwegian also did that too, and not exactly the present day, ...
Jump to postThanks all, interesting that the last operation by AC to Singapore was more than 30 years ago and I wonder if anything has changed since then. Recently, AC has started operations to BKK from YVR and it got me thinking if AC plans to look into expand into the South East Asia market. In my opinion, I...
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