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by Wildlander
Wed May 18, 2022 11:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-900 now has a 283t MTOW
Replies: 126
Views: 24584

Re: A350-900 now has a 283t MTOW

High ACN has long been flagged as a potential limiting factor for truly long-range aircraft. The reality is that the frequency of operations at the highest MTOWs is usually a very small fraction of the operations from potentially limited runways, sufficiently infrequent to not significantly impact r...

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by Wildlander
Sat May 07, 2022 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022
Replies: 299
Views: 100097

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

Aeroflot, or maybe a financier/lessor will have made substantial progress payments on these aircraft. Sanctions prevent Airbus from doing business with AFL. Goodness knows what the contract says about force majeure such as is the situation today. Perhaps AFL will accept to release the aircraft from ...

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by Wildlander
Fri May 06, 2022 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 133
Views: 25702

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022

The regulatory concern re the A340-500 and its integral/non-removable RCT centred on the possibility that in the case of a crash landing the centre landing gear might detach in such a way as to damage/rupture the RCT even if Airbus modelling suggested this was an extremely unlikely scenario. The Inn...

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by Wildlander
Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2022 orders
Replies: 118
Views: 39142

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2022 orders

Unless I am mistaken the KU "top up" as reported looks more like a re-mix with 6 A320neo becoming 6 A321neo, 3 A320neoLR added, with 8 A330-800 (2 delivered, third built) and 5 A350-900 becoming 4 and 2, with 7 A330-900s replacing them. A mix that seems to make more sense. The net increase...

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by Wildlander
Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus cancels two A350-1000 for Qatar Airways
Replies: 76
Views: 17379

Re: Airbus cancels two A350-1000 for Qatar Airways

I imagine that Airbus management cares a lot about losing business but has concluded that the current QR management will not only decline to accept further aircraft as per the original contractual terms and will continue to withhold all due progress payments until the present legal dispute is resolv...

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by Wildlander
Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus cancels two A350-1000 for Qatar Airways
Replies: 76
Views: 17379

Re: Airbus cancels two A350-1000 for Qatar Airways

Could it be that Airbus have put these two aircraft through what they believe to be a full legally binding acceptance process (customer absent by choice) and now consider the customer to be in default with no prospect of resolution, hence the cancellations. If so, will Airbus seek financial redress,...

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by Wildlander
Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2233
Views: 557045

Re: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

Logic suggests the ALAFCO planes will be some of the ex Hainan/HKAL airframes that they own but have sat idle for a long time.

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by Wildlander
Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2022
Replies: 156
Views: 54854

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

Probably a "marriage of convenience" in that Kuwait likely have no pressing need to take delivery and Airbus does not want to expend resources on reactivating MSN1888 for what may be a limited series of additional test flights. I don't recall if MSN2005 has been through cabin outfitting bu...

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by Wildlander
Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 109
Views: 25684

Re: Qatar Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

A321 progress payments witheld beyond contractually binding dates as a by-product of the A350 dispute??? What next? Refusal to accept/Cancellation (by QTR) of all undelivered A350-1000s, including those already built????

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by Wildlander
Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 472
Views: 106650

Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Only a guess, but figure who amongst the other A350 customers has a large shareholding in IAG? Pure coincidence that the IBE aircraft are also going nowhere fast. EC-NLP was registered and seemingly ready to go in Dec 2020.

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by Wildlander
Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 526
Views: 217745

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Extra check flights more likely to be because frames are first flown in anticipation of delivery dates that are( progressively?) pushed back by the customer. Aircraft kept "warm" with regular check flights rather than being placed in longer-term storage. Look for the flight lengths - short...

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by Wildlander
Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Airbus goes legal as Qatar Airways jet row escalates
Replies: 1232
Views: 216521

Re: Updated: Airbus goes legal as Qatar Airways jet row escalates

LL has been hangared since Jan 8th 2021 AFAIK

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by Wildlander
Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Airbus goes legal as Qatar Airways jet row escalates
Replies: 1232
Views: 216521

Re: Updated: Airbus goes legal as Qatar Airways jet row escalates

Airbus continues to deliver new-build airframes to other customers who, if they subscribe to the worst-case speculation, would surely have demanded contractual guarantees that Airbus pick up the tab should they suffer the same issue. If so, Airbus is commited to spending whatever this entails. What ...

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by Wildlander
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 327861

Re: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter

Highly unlikely that AIB have not made (repeated?) attempts to placate QR. Presumably these have been deemed insufficient. Perhaps QR are asking AIB to write a blank cheque covering much more than paint? No manufacturer aggrevates a high profile, high volume customer and in doing so throws away the ...

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by Wildlander
Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 526
Views: 217745

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Surely the slippage or slow down in preparation for delivery of these (and the IBE A350-900s) is related to the falloff of demand due to COVID... unless you choose to speculate on the possible influence of the boss of a certain large minority shareholder in IAG.

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by Wildlander
Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 327861

Re: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter

If for 777W operators it is simpler/more economic to operate the 777F then a 777X/777XF mix logically has the inside track for replacements when needed. But what if the lack of an A350F has been one (admittedly amongst many other more important) reason(s) for not selecting the A350? As pax configure...

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by Wildlander
Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 327861

Re: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter

The origianl Airbus announcement was, if not publically named as such, an ATO - Authority to Offer, implying that the project had passed various critical internal review steps and been deemed worthy of presentation to potential customers. The LOI and MOU deals imply that commercial terms and conditi...

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by Wildlander
Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 327861

Re: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter

No real surprise that the A350F has taken so long to get to ATO/Launch. The - lets be polite - lacklustre A332F sales record must have made it much harder to persuade finance that freighters are good business. A couple of years A350-1000 experience and continued development surely must have helped r...

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by Wildlander
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 190
Views: 75742

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Pragmatic decision, if confirmed. Balancing the cost of removing FTE (wiring etc) and bringing the plane up to saleable standard at a time when new sales are few and far between and doubtless at or close to fire sale prices with the value of what can be recovered for spares. Airbus would, I suspect,...

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by Wildlander
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 327861

Re: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter

Highly doubtful that the EK announcement has any impact on A350F prospects. Lessors/Financiers must be falling over each other offering sweet deals on the 300ERs coming off lease in the coming years. Long before the A350F becomes available. No contest.

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by Wildlander
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350 Dimmable Windows will be standard from next Year
Replies: 101
Views: 17135

Re: A350 Dimmable Windows will be standard from next Year

The principle reason Airbus chose to pass on dimmable windows until now was that the technology did not fully obscure daylight (or moonlight). 3rd gen presumably manages to do so. Always been a tough call as to freedom to look out, especially when almost everyone else wants to sleep or watch a movie...

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by Wildlander
Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Ryanair ends jet order talks with Boeing amid price dispute
Replies: 378
Views: 67450

Re: Updated: Ryanair ends jet order talks with Boeing amid price dispute

Ultra-aggressive pricing, be it from A or B, has potential consequences on existing MFN deals with other customers that call for repricing adjustments if a better deal is later offered to potential competotors elsewhere. I doubt if A has slammed the door and thrown away the key. They simply recognis...

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by Wildlander
Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Airbus Airlines": Airbus Company Shuttle XFW/TLS
Replies: 47
Views: 8471

Re: "Airbus Airlines": Airbus Company Shuttle XFW/TLS

A bit more insight into the TLS-UK ops. G-ASYD operated (at least) 12/89 to 7/93 probably to end 93, BAC 1-11-500s G-AVMH/I/N/T/W at various times 1994-98, BAe146 G-JEAO/R/V/W 1998-2002. Probably a few more one-off substitutions during these years, such as BAe146-300 G-BTTP in 1993.

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by Wildlander
Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Airbus Airlines": Airbus Company Shuttle XFW/TLS
Replies: 47
Views: 8471

Re: "Airbus Airlines": Airbus Company Shuttle XFW/TLS

The TLS-Filton-Hawarden ("Chester") flights were operated by BAC 1-11 for many years, notably the prototype G-ASYD until it was retired to Weybridge/Brooklands, then a variety of Air Bristol BAC 1-11 500s, including for a while one that had four-abreast seating. SN601 Corvettes were amongs...

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by Wildlander
Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 327861

Re: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter

Airbus, having determined internally that a reasonable technical, industrial and business case may exist for an A350F, is now sounding out potential launch customers. Nothing less, nothing more. As already noted in this thread, an A350F was always seen as a possibility, one day. Its not about going ...

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by Wildlander
Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 574
Views: 106013

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

Unlikely that Airbus Execs are losing sleep over A319neo sales losses or that the 737-7 will command that market sector (certain US majors apart). The A320 is not a direct competitor in capacity/range. The Airbus focus is doubtless on driving down supplier costs (a repeatedly stated objective) while...

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by Wildlander
Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Volaris acquire 8 additional A320NEO
Replies: 42
Views: 9141

Re: Volaris acquire 8 additional A320NEO

Points to consider when judging lease rates. The net price of the aircraft, probably somewhere around 50% of the "sticker price", the low cost of capital, and the possibility that the rate steps up after a certain time. I suggest these kinds of deals are short term opportunism rather than ...

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by Wildlander
Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 28494

Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021

Re possible "commercial penalties" I was looking at the bigger picture in terms of guaranteed asset values, buyback support, financing, etc. Plus the residual value hit to the worldwide fleet once a type goes out of production. All of which may, as suggested, add up to a small sum. There m...

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by Wildlander
Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 28494

Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021

Re production cost, assuming Airbus has amortised or written down the R&D of the NEO, then they are down to the cost of production alone, also assuming they can twist supply chain arms to prevent costs from rising despite the mow rate. The choice then becomes one between the marginal cost of bui...

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by Wildlander
Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 327861

Re: A350F. Airbus looking to launch: Looking for customers

An overly harsh judgement to suggest that Airbus were not pro-freighter post A310F/A300F. There was an enthusiastic team out promoting the A330F. A failure to convince potential operators that one-stop EU-Asia was more advantageous that running a 747F nonstop and, as mentioned in previous posts, an ...

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by Wildlander
Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:12 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why can a pax stand upright in downstairs toilets?
Replies: 10
Views: 4326

Re: Why can a pax stand upright in downstairs toilets?

On the few A330-200s and the DLH A340-600s with lower deck toilets the floor structure was modified to create the necessary standing height. One reason why this feature was not popular was that although there were design schemes (on the A330 at least) to insert a structural plug to bring the floor l...

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by Wildlander
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:49 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 747 over wing exit's deactivated (1980's)
Replies: 21
Views: 5207

Re: Boeing 747 over wing exit's deactivated (1980's)

IIRC the door 3 deactivation authorisation ended (or was reversed) because of the "60 foot" rule, requiring no two exit pairs to be more than 60 apart. Some if not all aircraft had the doors 3 reactivated. Airbus attempted to challenge this with the A340-600 (something like 72 feet if no o...

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by Wildlander
Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 28494

Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021

I don't want to deviate too far from the core A330 thread subject, but the A300F shutdown arguably handed Boeing monopoly 767F pricing and ultimately helped to keep the line alive while the KC- contest was lost/won. Equally, if I recall correctly, the freight market dynamics evolved and UPS were bac...

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by Wildlander
Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 28494

Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021

Logically low(er) rates should hike costs. Much will depend on supplier contracts, the ability to redeploy labour and to repurpose facilities. Rolls might be expected to be content to stay onboard rather than forego PBTH income downstream and see its global market share further eroded. Airbus ended ...

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by Wildlander
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 28494

Re: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021

Insomuch as Airbus found willing buyers for the A330s it "churned out to take advantage of 787 delays" they could hardly be blamed for doing so. If anything it was the subsequent (presumed) 787 commercial aggression applied to raise production rates to 14 pm in an attempt to see off the A3...

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by Wildlander
Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Sales Campaigns and Prospects Thread - 2021
Replies: 127
Views: 28494

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I would be happy to be proven wrong, but the A332F was a lesson learned the hard way and an A338F would not offer enough more/better to warrant the investment. The 767F, supported by the KC-46 long-term, will always beat it on price, there are oodles of A330s sitting around as A330P2F feedstock and ...

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by Wildlander
Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 190
Views: 75742

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

Typically, Airbus widebody production works on an 11 month year, so 44 in 2 years, from which there are still A330-200s to build for MRTT completion and & or 2 Beluga XL airframes to come, so NEO output should be somewhere in the mid-30s which is probably just about do-able unless air travel rem...

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by Wildlander
Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?

I believe that most of the A380 customers would have bought some/more 747s - maybe not in big numbers but enough to sew up the top end of the market and align better with the Boieng VLA market forecasts. No two ways about it, the 773ER excelled way beyond what the AIrbus crystal ball gazers foresaw....

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by Wildlander
Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The perpetual failure of the smallest variant.
Replies: 74
Views: 9584

Re: The perpetual failure of the smallest variant.

A variety of circumstances behind these Airbus models. The A318 (a double shrink) was a low development cost attempt to persuade airlines that it was better to complement existing A320 Family fleets than buy a different aircraft type. The A318 probably sold at decent prices to VIP customers and cert...

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by Wildlander
Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?

General conclusion summing the opinions in all the many previous posts; that Airbus read the tealeaves wrong, were intent on capturing the high (capacity) ground and oversized the A380 as a result. And clung to unrealistic sales projections. But what if Boeing had executed to plan? Or exceeded targe...

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by Wildlander
Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure

My point on "undersizing" being (historically) costly in terms of commercial success is based on the notion of it being potentially much more expensive to resize a design later rather than stretch/extrapolate from the base model. I submit that a smaller A380 would simply have bolstered 777...

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by Wildlander
Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure

Fair comment re VC-10 runway performance, but it was undersized as well. Substitute the underpowered BAC 1-11 instead if you wish. Headline ranges are often deceptive, especially with LR widebody craft. Pile in all the amenities tucked into the non-seating areas, allow for the -800 carrying 600+ pax...

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by Wildlander
Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure

History will record that the A380 was too much 'plane, probably launched at the wrong time, with too much emphasis on "bling" interiors (that Airbus promoted and the airlines welcomed), but for those who adhere to the view that it should have been smaller, lighter and less performant (an A...

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by Wildlander
Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure

As previously mentioned, Airbus saw the A380 as the next 747, a product (family) with a 50 year production life. Recall that the original 747 had WAY more capacity than the 707/DC-8 types it sat above. It was range deficient and (relatively) quickly evolved into higher weiight/higher thrust -200B mo...

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by Wildlander
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure

Staying with the engine "blame game" theme, who knows how much better the A380 might have turned out with a single source supplier. Count GE out (too much riding on Boeing models, with/without exclusivity clauses), PW losing momentum fast and no wilingness to invest what was needed to reco...

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by Wildlander
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure

The A380-800 ended up being the base model. The A380F was intended as a stepping stone/catalyst for the A380-900 in terms of higher design weights and associated structural reinforcements. The -900 would have taken the length overall to the limit of the 80m box. A double stretch would have required ...

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by Wildlander
Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure-in service in 10 years? 2nd life after 2024?
Replies: 476
Views: 61901

Re: John Leahy blames the engines for the A380 failure

The A380 came about because Airbus believed (or convinced itself) that growth rates were such that another 747-like leap in aircraft seating capacity was going to needed. Anticipating (hoping) for a production life (with incremental imrovements) similar to that of the 747 (think 747-100 to -400 to -...

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by Wildlander
Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What has become of IAG LOI to order 737MAX ?
Replies: 69
Views: 13780

Re: What has become of IAG LOI to order 737MAX ?

IIRC this deal came about at a time when IAG fleet planners had alrteady identified the need for extra/replacement single-aisle aircraft, IAG Management had had its fill of delivery delays and/or quality issues with Airbus and was sharp enough to figure that the MAX difficulties meant that Boeing wa...

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by Wildlander
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did the Airbus a340 outsell the MD-11?
Replies: 136
Views: 20784

Re: Why did the Airbus a340 outsell the MD-11?

Engine development and performance vs promises played its part in the relative successes of the MD-11, A340 and the 777 models. The MD-11, notably the PW4000 powered models required a whole orange full of PIPs and MTOW increases to get close to expectations. Who knows the SuperFan would have worked ...

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by Wildlander
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What made Airbus make the a300 as a twinjet, and why couldnt McDonnell Douglas do the same with the DC-10?
Replies: 68
Views: 12812

Re: What made Airbus make the a300 as a twinjet, and why couldnt McDonnell Douglas do the same with the DC-10?

The A380 like the A300 and other "foundation" AIrbus models was a strategic choice, based on the premise that air travel would continue to grow strongly (which it did) but not fragment to the extent it did (the fate that befell the A300 in Europe). The size/layout was a commercial/technica...

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