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by airplanecrazy
Tue May 19, 2020 12:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Below is a copy of the Airworthiness documentation for N72EX. I bought it so I could see what kind of Transponder and ADS-B equipment was installed.

https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai5ul4veNOgHiYlBhJG8CblFCNa9rA

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by airplanecrazy
Mon May 18, 2020 5:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Here is my take of the transcript on frequency 134.2, SoCal Approach Burbank Sector Pilot: [17:40:06] SoCal, Helicopter 7 2 Echo X-Ray with you transitioning in VFR conditions at one thousand five hundred to Camarillo. Controller1: [17:40:17] Helicopter 7 2 Echo X-Ray SaCal Approach, Roger. You just...

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by airplanecrazy
Mon May 18, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

The FAA sent me SoCal Arrival ATC communications that I requested through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. I have time aligned this new audio to my reconstruction efforts.
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https://youtu.be/M_Dpm144KXo

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by airplanecrazy
Sat May 09, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: GPS and WAAS
Replies: 6
Views: 983

Re: GPS and WAAS

. Unless there's a specific mention of, for example, "NACp > 10" in the datasheet or handbook, the only thing you know for sure is that the device complies with FAA regulations. For the GTX 335 that appears to be NACp >= 8, i. e. 92.5 m. Anything else is just marketing. . For the flight I...

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by airplanecrazy
Sat May 09, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: GPS and WAAS
Replies: 6
Views: 983

Re: GPS and WAAS

Adam, I am also seeing some disagreement between some of the altitude reports and some of the vertical rate reports. Do you have any intuition/knowledge about which reports would be more accurate? If I "integrate" (add up) the vertical rate reports I eventually get to the same final altitu...

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by airplanecrazy
Sat May 09, 2020 1:10 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: GPS and WAAS
Replies: 6
Views: 983

Re: GPS and WAAS

There's no simple answer to that, I guess. So, based on my own experience (I've been running fleet position monitoring solution on trains professionally), you can quite easily get about 3m accuracy for 98% of position reports on multi SatNav, and around 10m based on only one network. Back in the da...

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by airplanecrazy
Fri May 08, 2020 9:09 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: GPS and WAAS
Replies: 6
Views: 983

GPS and WAAS

I am looking at some ADS-B data and I have some questions about positional accuracy that I am hoping someone on this forum is knowledgeable enough to answer.. The Garmin website https://www8.garmin.com/aboutGPS/waas.html says that with WAAS the Estimated Position Uncertainty(EPU) is typically less t...

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

I've decided to pull the video until I do a more through validation that the Tacview tool I am using to calculate the g force is accurate. Thank you for your engineering critique! I think that your video is (was) very interesting "as is", possibly with a simple warning that the g force ma...

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by airplanecrazy
Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

The simulation already convinced me that this was spatial disorientation, the detail of the pilot's looking down to the console tends to add to that. You might be interested in my most recent analysis. [...snip...] I'm a bit puzzled by the relationship between "g" numbers and roll angle. ...

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by airplanecrazy
Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

The simulation already convinced me that this was spatial disorientation, the detail of the pilot's looking down to the console tends to add to that. You might be interested in my most recent analysis. https://youtu.be/v2V7cUoA_UA http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/v2V7cUoA_UA/maxresdefault.jpg

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

OK, I know it's enough already, but I made another version of my helicopter crash reconstruction :) I have been learning how to generate better clouds and scenery in X-Plane, and I thought the improvements were enough to warrant another version. Just don't click on the link if you had enough of this...

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by airplanecrazy
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Did you have to manually specify the roll angle? X-Plane generated the roll angle. I used the X-Plane generated roll angle in my Google Earth Studio reconstruction. I also now realize that I didn't look at the roll angle for the last moments of flight and it is over the 63 degrees I said in the vid...

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by airplanecrazy
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

wow, these reconstructions keep getting better, top notch work! Thanks! How did you generate the x-plane path? Were you able to directly import the kml into x-plane? A long answer to a short question. Bottom line, it was a fair amount of work and analysis. I first integrated and time re-sequenced t...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

I think this will be my last attempt at my amateur reconstruction of the crash, at least until we get new information. This reconstruction now has an animated helicopter using the X-Plane simulator and my representation of the fog bank. http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/WirfErQb-sg/hqdefault.jpg https://youtu....

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by airplanecrazy
Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

For what it's worth, I created my rev3 version reconstruction of the crash based upon information gleaned from the NTSB update. https://i9.ytimg.com/vi/2tVngcxaADA/mqdefault.jpg?time=1581135624474&sqp=CPDt-PEF&rs=AOn4CLAnWxoGcnPDiI21nytCp1XfD7QfPw https://youtu.be/2tVngcxaADA

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by airplanecrazy
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

flybucky wrote:
hOMSaR wrote:
Great point about the sound delay, I did not consider that. I should go back and recalculate some numbers.


If you do recalculate, please post your recalculated value when you are done... I would like to include it in the next iteration of my crash reconstruction. Thanks.

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by airplanecrazy
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Are there more doublette data sets available? If you mean are there more doublets in the FR24 granular data, I believe I have found 5 in the last minute. I also found something else in looking through the FR24 data. I think what happens is that each receiver has a state for each ICAO, and the recei...

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by airplanecrazy
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

There have been a lot of questions about the fog ceiling level at the crash area. The METAR from Van Nuys or Camarillo is not helpful since weather in the mountains can be totally different than in the flat valleys. I found a video from a Nest webcam aimed pretty much toward the crash site and show...

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by airplanecrazy
Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

1) Are the timestamps in the video calibrated to the same clock/precision as the timestamps in ADS-B? ADS-B data messages are not timestamped by the sender (which was a huge surprise to me). The timestamps you see are timestamped by each receiver, so the accuracy and precision of the timestamp is d...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Here are some Google Earth pictures of my reconstruction: https://bn1305files.storage.live.com/y4matUg10d9wx_toVF7ARVCos2Q3UMcZppeBUfNYyY-rmZs8YeX0qpAMC1rNPDbXy8UlLKykd6BlRGWhgezKu_Dw7e_epEtSVwgf9p_xiOsGyBaOT1UcI81WSLF6-U2tREOEIaAhp1SbKHON0IUN8UDgHXc8msSLWh7mANbwKwAoWnV-R7O3qh4ODvZDsrKYCkso0SfEAul6J...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

I can't seem to make the flight path match the debris field unless I put in a tighter left turn at the end. Nice work! I think your path is realistic (a decreasing radius descending turn). That's what I was imagining too. Could you also post a zoomed out view of your path, starting from when it div...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

The sharp white line you drew should probably be a wider fuzzy line to better reflect the uncertainties. This does not detract at all from the great job you did: your 3D reconstruction is the key part, then we can all tweak it at the margins based on our ideas and preferences. Thanks for your analy...

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

[...] Do you think I need to adjust either the primary impact point to the right or adjust the approach angle (or both)? If I move to the right at all I will hit the simulated tree on the ridge immediately before impact. I would try a little bit of both, but not in the sense that you are wrong and ...

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by airplanecrazy
Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

@airplanecrazy -- yes, truly impressive! In a previous post you pointed out that you had to put in a tighter left turn at the end to match the debris field. Does your latest reconstruction include that final tighter turn? From your picture it would seem that the estimated trajectory could be moved ...

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by airplanecrazy
Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

I have been continuing my amateur efforts at crash reconstruction. I will reiterate that I know that I am not with the NTSB and that they will bring much more sophisticated analysis, but I thought the members of this forum might be interested in my efforts. I appreciate any suggestions for improveme...

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by airplanecrazy
Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

I can't seem to make the flight path match the debris field unless I put in a tighter left turn at the end. Nice work! I think your path is realistic (a decreasing radius descending turn). That's what I was imagining too. Could you also post a zoomed out view of your path, starting from when it div...

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by airplanecrazy
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

I have been learning how to use Google Earth Studio and have been trying to fit the publicly available data to reconstruct the last moments of the crash. As others have noted, this is purely amateur work and has none of the sophistication or expertise that the NTSB will provide (I don't even play an...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

All, I have reason to believe that the FlightRadar granular altitude data I have been using is unadjusted (the helicopter takes off from under the airport). I found another site that states that the appropriate correction is +225' ( https://forums.liveatc.net/atcaviation-audio-clips/26-jan-kobe-brya...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

I zoomed in on the Google Earth plot near the end of the flight and I see the track going backward two times. Does anyone know where the GPS antenna is on that helicopter? I see the going backward phenomena in other locations in the file. I now assume this is just a precision/accuracy limitation of...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Below is another graph plot of the FR24 granular data that I think shows the picture better. It's the last 60 seconds of data, starting from 17:44:34.250 UTC, which is about the time that it stopped following the road and started the final climb. The climb goes pretty smoothly for the first 40 seco...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

NTSB says helicopter didn't have FDR or CVR.

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

MontaukMonster wrote:
Why would this pilot be so reckless as to fly towards rising terrain with low visibility and low ceilings? Complete incompetence.


Or mechanical failure, or disorientation, or...

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

flybucky wrote:
Would you be willing to share your KML file?


Sure

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ai5ul4veNOgHhYlk9jfjGyiqVcvZYQ?e=3GEqVw

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Is this consistent with the "climbed to 2000, cleared a mountain by 100 ft then turned to go home at 161 knots" statements in the TMZ article above? It is more consistent with cleared a mountain pass by 100', climbed to 2000', turned to the left, then descended rapidly (to go home?) Here ...

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Very Detailed Eyewitness account of the accident I am a bit confused as to why he thought the helicopter was hovering, as that doesn't seem to be supported by the flightradar24 data. The granular data I am looking at shows greater than 100knots over the last 5 minutes of flight. Some kind of acoust...

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

Very Detailed Eyewitness account of the accident I am a bit confused as to why he thought the helicopter was hovering, as that doesn't seem to be supported by the flightradar24 data. The granular data I am looking at shows greater than 100knots over the last 5 minutes of flight. Some kind of acoust...

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash
Replies: 744
Views: 110933

Re: Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash

I found publicly published granular FlightRadar24 data published here: https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/kobe-bryant-believed-dead-in-helicopter-crash/ and used the ATSB KML Creator found here: https://www.atsb.gov.au/utilities/atsb-kml-creator/atsb-kml-creator-download.aspx to create a granular KM...

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by airplanecrazy
Thu May 30, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: UAL 804 NRT->IAD Diversion to CLE
Replies: 1
Views: 1017

UAL 804 NRT->IAD Diversion to CLE

Twice this month I have seen UAL 804 divert to CLE due to thunderstorms at IAD. Both times, PIT was a closer airport at the time of diversion and PIT would have made the continuation flight shorter (PIT->IAD vs CLE->IAD). Why then does this flight divert to CLV instead of PIT? TIA. https://www.fligh...

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by airplanecrazy
Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Rebooting a 787
Replies: 23
Views: 5473

Rebooting a 787

I flew on UA 924 from IAD to LHR on 4/12. While starting the push back the pilot said they received some kind of problem indicator on the battery. After a while of trying to clear the error, the pilots and mechanics decided to "reboot" the airplane (my term, not theirs) by powering everyth...

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by airplanecrazy
Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Strange Routing NAX7015 LGW JFK
Replies: 22
Views: 10050

RE: Strange Routing NAX7015 LGW JFK

Is NAX prohibited from flying over Ireland? Just found out that isn't the reason by looking back at flights for past several days. <a href="http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NAX7015/history/20140821/1720Z/EGKK/KJFK" target="_blank">http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...5/history/20140821/1720Z/EGK...

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by airplanecrazy
Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:14 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Strange Routing NAX7015 LGW JFK
Replies: 22
Views: 10050

Strange Routing NAX7015 LGW JFK

This flight is heading much farther North than others between LGW and <acronym title="New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK / KJFK), USA - New York">JFK</acronym> today. Any ideas why? <a href="http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NAX7015" target="_blank">http://flightaware.com/live...

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by airplanecrazy
Wed May 29, 2013 11:56 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LOT 787s And Their ADS-B
Replies: 16
Views: 3722

RE: LOT 787s And Their ADS-B

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/3MilesToWRO" class="quote" target="_blank">3MilesToWRO</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i>No way this can be the reason unless...

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by airplanecrazy
Wed May 29, 2013 2:27 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: LOT 787s And Their ADS-B
Replies: 16
Views: 3722

RE: LOT 787s And Their ADS-B

Flightradar24 depends on a network of <acronym title="Dallas - Addison (ADS), USA - Texas">ADS</acronym>-B receivers. From their website: "Flightradar24's coverage is primarily made up of data contributed by volunteers from around the world. Roughly 1,000 aviation enthusiasts with <acronym title="Da...

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by airplanecrazy
Thu May 02, 2013 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 744 Strikes Aerobridge At Melbourne Tullamarine
Replies: 38
Views: 19548

RE: United 744 Strikes Aerobridge At Melbourne Tullamarine

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DeltaB717" class="quote" target="_blank">DeltaB717</a> (<a href="#24" class="quote">Reply 24</a>):<br/><i>flightaware has N119UA in <acronym tit...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 744 Strikes Aerobridge At Melbourne Tullamarine
Replies: 38
Views: 19548

RE: United 744 Strikes Aerobridge At Melbourne Tullamarine

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/cipango" class="quote" target="_blank">cipango</a> (<a href="#21" class="quote">Reply 21</a>):<br/><i>Anyone know what registration this was?</i...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA Grounds 787, Thread 9
Replies: 225
Views: 34207

RE: FAA Grounds 787, Thread 9

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/PITingres" class="quote" target="_blank">PITingres</a> (<a href="#48" class="quote">Reply 48</a>):<br/><i>"NTSB investigators found only minor d...

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by airplanecrazy
Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA Grounds 787, Thread 9
Replies: 225
Views: 34207

RE: FAA Grounds 787, Thread 9

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ual747-600" class="quote" target="_blank">ual747-600</a> (<a href="#46" class="quote">Reply 46</a>):<br/><i>I was just wondering if this news st...

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by airplanecrazy
Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA Grounds 787, Thread 9
Replies: 225
Views: 34207

RE: FAA Grounds 787, Thread 9

I heard on CBS news that "the damage to the Japan Airlines 787 was so severe the tail could have fallen off had the fire occured in flight." I found this related article: <a href="http://mynorthwest.com/11/2199786/Report-Battery-fire-caused-significant-structural-damage-to-Boeing-787" target="_blank...

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by airplanecrazy
Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United IAD To MAN Starts In May
Replies: 22
Views: 11759

RE: United IAD To MAN Starts In May

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/david_itl" class="quote" target="_blank">david_itl</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>CO100/101 was the 2nd daily <acronym tit...

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by airplanecrazy
Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United IAD To MAN Starts In May
Replies: 22
Views: 11759

United IAD To MAN Starts In May

I see that United is starting non-stop TATL 757 service between <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym> and <acronym title="Manchester - International (Ringway) (MAN / EGCC), United Kingdom">MAN</acronym> starting 1 May, presumably on <acronym ti...

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