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by vadodara
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 818
Views: 39952

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.financialexpress.com/industry/we-are-learning-from-jet-airways-mistakes-indigo-ceos-take-on-jets-fatal-move/1618632/lite/ Indigo “learns” from Jet’s mistake and will not order wide bodied aircraft. Good call in my opinions . ga X Did NG make mistakes? I thought it w...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Perhaps I am missing something but anyone care to remind NG’s contributions to the airline industry? NG created an airline which at one point was truly world class. (Quality dropped over the last several years but for a time the experience on it was outstanding) Bijness was good until he started tr...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

<Both NG and Ajay Singh used GOI favoritism to get ahead.> Ajay Singh actually confounded the airline prior to when the current govt came in power; if anything he got pushed out when the lines between politicians and business blurred! The point is the Maran’s were the lawmakers and still couldn’t ru...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 818
Views: 39952

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

With the new launch of the A321XLR (8700km full payload range), which Indian airline is first to Europe with a narrow-body!? Didn't Indigo's ISL (Istanbul) launch fail because of range limitations due to the Pakistani airspace closure!? You can fly BOM-LHR with the A321XLR (and DEL too if Pakistani...

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by vadodara
Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I actually think he had a really good hand but didn't expect the googly (cricket terminology; don't know what the equivalent is for poker) In my opinion, NG thought that there was not a chance in the world that a Government, on the precipice of national re-elections, would allow a high profile comp...

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by vadodara
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

While digging a bit deeper over this weekend, I came to know that he no stranger to aviation. Surprise, Surprise ... He was the founder of SpiceJet around 2005 and was pushed out around 2010. Who pushed him out? Family of the then Union Textile minister who were a major part in UPA government. Talk...

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by vadodara
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

NG instead played Poker with a bad hand. I actually think he had a really good hand but didn't expect the googly (cricket terminology; don't know what the equivalent is for poker) In my opinion, NG thought that there was not a chance in the world that a Government, on the precipice of national re-e...

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by vadodara
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 818
Views: 39952

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

United Airlines will codeshare on 20 Vistara flights. Given that UA's planes land in the dead of the night, will Vistara operate night flights or are passengers expected to spend 5 to 8 hours in the airport at night waiting for their morning Vistara flight? https://www.eturbonews.com/255696/united-...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

NG instead played Poker with a bad hand. I actually think he had a really good hand but didn't expect the googly (cricket terminology; don't know what the equivalent is for poker) In my opinion, NG thought that there was not a chance in the world that a Government, on the precipice of national re-e...

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by vadodara
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Finally Finished , RIP. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9RWlhXUcAY1COs?format=png&name=small https://m.economictimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/sbi-led-consortium-to-take-jet-airways-to-nclt-seek-resolution-under-ibc-reports/articleshow/69825957.cms Well summarised by a well k...

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The most important thing that saved SpiceJet (besides the correct political affiliation of the new owner) was the Marans getting out before it was too late. Jet could and would have been saved had this been done late last year. NG prevented this, now its honestly gone too far to be saved. True that...

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by vadodara
Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unconfirmed: Qatar to put Hamad Int Airport expansion on halt
Replies: 25
Views: 4604

Re: Qatar to put Hamad Int Airport expansion on halt

Something had to give after the relentless blockade. Already, Qatar had to swap out the narrow bodies for medium sized aircraft just to get around the blockading countries.

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by vadodara
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 818
Views: 39952

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Hajj Flights Schedule is out for North India region.Its surprising that AI will operate the Hajj flights time time as previously I have seen Saudia A332s operating Hajj flights to and fro lucknow...Im wondering what planes will they use I doubt they will use A320s so probably 321s and dont think th...

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by vadodara
Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 818
Views: 39952

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Aarbee that is exactly my point no Indian airline is able to fill the gap for Jet's long haul. Not Vistara (with SQ and Tatas), not Indigo (with its profits) and not Spice (with its govt backing). The question is why can't they expand - they don't want to , they don't have the resources, they don't...

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by vadodara
Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Traded? Never said that. AS far as value, they still seem to have value as EY, Adi etc are bidding. The issue is not value of what is left of Jet but rather what l;inabilities the GOI and banks will place on new Jet. That is a huge difference which people don’t seem to get. Agreed that 9W was flyin...

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by vadodara
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The banks are basically going to recover $0 that is ZERO. The banks and govt of Germany was able to sell of the pieces of Air Berlin (where Air Berlin wasn't even a player). The Indian banks achieved nothing other than a give away of slots to Spice. Great job? And once again selling the pieces is n...

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by vadodara
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Skipping Provident Funds payments is a very serious . And where is that money going to come from if Jet doesn't have any? Jet doesn't have a money printing press and you can't expect NG himself to be running that press. For heaven's sake there was no money to base base salaries and you are talking ...

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by vadodara
Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

You are being hard on NG. This is a business failure and you are attaching company issues to him personally which I don't think is correct. Otherwise, no one will get business. NG make poor business decisions but no business makes good decisions 100% of the time. Plus, in a notoriously difficult an...

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by vadodara
Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The new asks really aren’t new. It should have been obvious to a business reporter that EY would ask operational vendors to also take a haircut on debt. Those guys should just feel lucky to get something. EY also doesn’t want to be drawn in for wrong doing NG May have done. Which is also fair and n...

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by vadodara
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

You are underestimating PSBank Babus' ability to spread the blame so thin that it won't register on anyone. As I said in the past, over the last nine months SBI probably hired Audit-4 to do justify whatever they did/didn't do. There will be thousands of pages of case studies and analysis of all pos...

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by vadodara
Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

[My point on it worked out for me was messing Jet dying in the end didn’t affect me. To your point my family does one to two trips to india a year. We just want high quality FSC with nice J and sky team miles. And fortunately VS, DL, KL all came through for BOM-US travelers. So from a selfish pov I...

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by vadodara
Fri May 31, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

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Jeez guys. Why is it so annoying to you that some of us liked flying Jet. I am totally not annoyed that you hated Jet. Jet offered me good service and tons of options from BOM-EU plus a sky team connection. To each their own. . Like Pan Am and TWA fan-boys, you are free to purchase Jet Airways memo...

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by vadodara
Fri May 31, 2019 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

gives the GOI more flexibility with Jet Can you quote one example where GOI used the flexibility to save Jet? In summary GOI enforced every rule to force Jet shutdown. GOI bent every rule to help SpiceJet. May 23rd mandate confirms India is happy with GOI's actions with Jet, hence no change in the ...

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by vadodara
Mon May 27, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 346
Views: 30289

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

V interesting that the NG fan club wants to make Spice Jet into another Jet Airways.

Presumably Singh can count better than Goyal and perhaps is less infatuated with the Class F service

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by vadodara
Mon May 27, 2019 11:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

... Naresh Goyal is under investigation for siphoning Jet Airways funds. ... That's the question -- is he? Or rather, was he, before he showed up at the passport control desk? could it be a last-minute, knee-jerk reaction from a passport control official, who realized that such a high-profile figur...

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by vadodara
Sun May 26, 2019 2:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

[ G's decision whether to sell his shares, or not, was entirely his personal decision much the same as whether your decision is to keep or sell your Reliance shares. Reliance employee salaries are not based on whether Mukesh Ambani buys or sells Reliance shares -- it is rather based on the performa...

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by vadodara
Sat May 25, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 346
Views: 30289

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

[ To be fair JFK BOM arrived at BOM around noon. Much earlier than the UA (and soon, DL) flight. Though, I suppose the Indian population is more OK with talking midnight domestic flights than the EU/US. UA has tremendous ability to funnel pax thru EWR not to mention NYC as the wealthiest catchment ...

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by vadodara
Sat May 25, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Only in India can one arbitrarily decide a person can't fly. There are no charges against him. They really have no right to hold him back. While it may seem like I am defending chacha, I am not. I am a rules-based persons. That is the essence in any civilized society. ....... Only in India, you cou...

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by vadodara
Sat May 25, 2019 3:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 346
Views: 30289

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Sorry man , but don't worry STV/BDQ - EWR will soon happen to be a daily non stop 77W ! BOM will just have domestic flights . That's all. Yep! These days even Uddhav and SS May support this! Unfortunately US airlines don't. Remember UA can start STV as they have open skies but they instead went for...

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by vadodara
Thu May 23, 2019 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 346
Views: 30289

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

AI has officially shut JFK BOM citing low demand - what a filthy excuse! PDEW for NYC BOM is 400+ . !! Why can't they just accept that their product is not at all competitive and they don't have enough corporate contracts to make this route work? Not enough Class F seats perhaps? Sorry man , but do...

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by vadodara
Thu May 23, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 346
Views: 30289

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

AI has officially shut JFK BOM citing low demand - what a filthy excuse! PDEW for NYC BOM is 400+ . !! Why can't they just accept that their product is not at all competitive and they don't have enough corporate contracts to make this route work? Not enough Class F seats perhaps? Premium traffic dr...

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by vadodara
Thu May 23, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 346
Views: 30289

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Spice would use their political leverage to impede any revival prospects. Afterall, the govt. has nothing to gain or lose from Jet coming back or not. So might as well favour an ally businessman. They might even resort to influence something where Jet slots will be lost for good soon, even if they ...

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by vadodara
Tue May 21, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Could DFW one day rival/surpass ATL in total pax/ASM?
Replies: 40
Views: 3646

Re: Could DFW one day rival/surpass ATL in total pax/ASM?

Yes. The increase in frequency to international destinations as well as aircraft upgauging will likely carry it over

DL will be left fighting for a few slots at DAL

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by vadodara
Tue May 21, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 346
Views: 30289

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

AI has officially shut JFK BOM citing low demand - what a filthy excuse! PDEW for NYC BOM is 400+ . !! Why can't they just accept that their product is not at all competitive and they don't have enough corporate contracts to make this route work? Not enough Class F seats perhaps? Premium traffic dr...

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by vadodara
Mon May 20, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 346
Views: 30289

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

binayak wrote:
AI has officially shut JFK BOM citing low demand - what a filthy excuse! PDEW for NYC BOM is 400+ . !!
Why can't they just accept that their product is not at all competitive and they don't have enough corporate contracts to make this route work?


Not enough Class F seats perhaps?

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by vadodara
Thu May 16, 2019 10:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Wasn't Jet's international market share out of BOM like 30% or 35% and most of Jet's pax are India origin. Also AI still carries pax out of BOM even with much fewer flights. So unclear where you are getting your facts. BOM has a ton of airline choices so let's not forget all the international carri...

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by vadodara
Thu May 16, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Exactly. So what is best for its people. I would say India is best served through more jobs and global connectivity that fosters business and tourists. I want everyone to push the GOI and state go to to lower taxes and streamline aviation. I think most non Anet people would say it’s a pretty pro gr...

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by vadodara
Tue May 14, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

It's not what everyone wants, only desi small town residents here on a.net. Since for them, they ANYWAYS have to take a one-stop or more to connect globally be it through Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Mumbai or Delhi. But for mega city pax it definitely does matter, especially for those who value time an...

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by vadodara
Tue May 14, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Spiderguy252 wrote:
vadodara wrote:
I have 1,000,000miles on Jet. Where can I cash my miles?


Convert them to Amazon / Flipkart vouchers. As liquid as it gets.


Precisely my point; no value in terms of flying.

Hence no value in accumulating future miles in Jet Airways.

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by vadodara
Tue May 14, 2019 2:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I would rephrase. EY made a bid with so many conditions, it is unlikely to go forward. This way they may claim an offer. However, it is unlikely to be met. If someone else buys Jet, EY wins anyway. The chance of Jet flying again goes down everyday. Lightsaber Not sure how EY 'wins' but they investe...

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by vadodara
Mon May 13, 2019 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I would rephrase. EY made a bid with so many conditions, it is unlikely to go forward. This way they may claim an offer. However, it is unlikely to be met. If someone else buys Jet, EY wins anyway. The chance of Jet flying again goes down everyday. Lightsaber Not sure how EY 'wins' but they investe...

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by vadodara
Mon May 13, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

No, that was not my point. That is you putting words in others mouth as usual. I was pointing out at the Indian public sector banking and them being unaccountable for anything, expecting govt. bailouts everytime. Not defending SBI but 9W does not have a case to blame anyone. You are missing the poi...

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by vadodara
Sun May 12, 2019 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Your point is NG should have been bailed out because he had a great business case. No, that was not my point. That is you putting words in others mouth as usual. I was pointing out at the Indian public sector banking and them being unaccountable for anything, expecting govt. bailouts everytime. Not...

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by vadodara
Sat May 11, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

He is a banker. He is only concern should be trying recover whatever money he can. And he lacks that concern too; of trying to recover the money. That's my point. The video and the way he speaks about it, suggests it all. So no need to hail the great banker here. I also fail to see what's so right ...

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by vadodara
Sat May 11, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Antarius wrote:
Goyal was the definition of crony capitalism. I'm unclear how the pot and its supporters keep calling the kettle black.


You have it wrong! Govt not bailing out NG is crony capitalism.

If 9W doesn’t fly and others take away its market share is favoring other airlines.

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by vadodara
Thu May 09, 2019 3:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

You can invite some Surtis and they may express an opinion. The only opinion they come forth is that Surat contributes to 99% traffic of BOM, when infact they actually contribute to about less than 0.5% of the traffic at the financial capital's airport. And not to mention, Surat airport is horribly...

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by vadodara
Wed May 08, 2019 3:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

To be fair, BOM has good premium demand (witness EK's 5 daily wide bodies, SQ, BA that send premium heavy planes). The issue is more around competition and GOI policies that make having a hub at BOM (or anywhere in India) as issue. So it is market realities not some innate problem at BOM. Even if 7...

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by vadodara
Wed May 08, 2019 3:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Is BOM the worst in the world, no. That probably goes to LGA. At least New Yorkers admit that their airports collectively suck. BOM people on the other hand...


Ha ha!

And LGA has 2x the runway capacity of BOM!

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by vadodara
Mon May 06, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Seriously? The anti Jet and anti BOM people are the ones who are infatuated. Most people saying positive things about Jet are normal pax that have no agenda. BOM has always had options and always will. so in the end BOM will be fine. No begging bowl.. DL’s JFK-BOM is a great add. If anything, Jet's...

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by vadodara
Mon May 06, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1664
Views: 163020

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

That said, Jet had a great J product from my pov. Mock me if you want, but I will miss it and am not looking forward to KL/AF rebooking by DL. You actually believe that jet’s fail only affects BOM. It will affect all of india as tourist arrivals decline. Just look at the hard numbers of tourist gro...

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