JetBlue should have been profitable sooner with all of their growth initiatives and additional Mint aircraft. Especially with hubs in key O&D markets like NYC and Boston. It’s obvious that they have a cost and revenue problem, and they continue to face operational issues that need addressing. A...
Jump to postGood points regarding stl and charter services. I bet the answer is both. WN dropped BDL, which creates room for an HVN flight immediately. Later down the line they can also fly charters I haven't heard anything about WN leaving BDL. They have flights available to book well into the future. They do...
Jump to postAnd Orlando Sanford Yes of course, however Avelo does not fly to SFB. I was just mentioning the airports that Avelo serves in Central Florida that they market as Orlando Airports. For them it's DAB, LAL, and MCO. LAL should be marketed as a Tampa Bay Area airport. It’s closer to some parts of Hills...
Jump to postAt what point do we see DL launch ATL-HVN in order to compete with XP? Should be able to get it done with 2x daily E175 or 1x daily 717, A220 or A319. A 4x/week flight on a LCC is inconsequential compared to the scale at ATL (and DL flies ATL-SWF/BDL/PVD). No reason for them to fly it. Ah, I do mis...
Jump to postDAB is now being marketed as Daytona Beach/Orlando when booked as a destination. So now you have Daytona Beach/Orlando, Orlando, and Orlando/Lakeland. And Orlando Sanford Yes of course, however Avelo does not fly to SFB. I was just mentioning the airports that Avelo serves in Central Florida that t...
Jump to postDAB is now being marketed as Daytona Beach/Orlando when booked as a destination. So now you have Daytona Beach/Orlando, Orlando, and Orlando/Lakeland.
Jump to postAlaska launched SEA-NYC as once daily service while Delta were 3-4x/daily. Now Alaska have built that to 3-4x/daily themselves. JetBlue? Still 1x. Alaska have also built WAS, MCO, SFL in similar fashions going up against airlines with multiple daily frequencies. SEA-NYC isn't 100% business, there's...
Jump to postOne flight a day CAN definitely “move the needle” if it’s profitable and has a good ROI. 1. YOU MAKE MONEY. 2. It presents an opportunity for profitable growth and an increase in frequency’s that MAKE money. That type of flying allows for measured, profitable growth. A 1 or 2 times daily gives an a...
Jump to postI personally think JFK should become more of a banked hub where possible. You made a point about flying to business markets twice daily, and I think that's why some of the cities they pulled out of, or are pulling out of failed. You can't really attract customers in a spoke city when you offer a si...
Jump to postWhile Spirit appears to be moving in the right direction and finally making much-needed changes to both its network and operating structure, it is time JetBlue does the same, but in a manner that involves more than just cutting back routes. First and foremost, everyone can agree that cutting the LA...
Jump to postAhh, I'm guessing it'll be back eventually then. STL just bot PBI back this year. BNA I am sure isn't far behind As much as I would have enjoyed a BNA-PBI nonstop during baseball spring break season, I have to believe there is very little O&D between the 2 cities on a year-round basis. Most of ...
Jump to postBut for now, they need to shrink to profitability. They need to work through their fleet issues and their OTP issues. They need to focus on what makes them the most money and they can expand later, but frankly any domestic city they fly to that's only 1x daily probably needs to go. Shrinking to be ...
Jump to postWhile Spirit appears to be moving in the right direction and finally making much-needed changes to both its network and operating structure, it is time JetBlue does the same, but in a manner that involves more than just cutting back routes. First and foremost, everyone can agree that cutting the LA...
Jump to postI noticed ATL-PBI is served, but BNA-PBI isn't. Little surprised they'd rather go head-to-head with DL than have a route all to themselves that essentially serves the same purpose for them especially since they're on both BNA-FLL and BNA-MIA. BNA-PBI was a COVID cut. Ahh, I'm guessing it'll be back...
Jump to postI noticed ATL-PBI is served, but BNA-PBI isn't. Little surprised they'd rather go head-to-head with DL than have a route all to themselves that essentially serves the same purpose for them especially since they're on both BNA-FLL and BNA-MIA.
Jump to postDAB is years away from Southwest service. United would be the most likely add to DAB but I would not be willing to bet on that. Avelo will maintain service unless they add flights to a new bases. WN is probably never going to DAB. If they were, they would have been one of the new station announceme...
Jump to postDL MCI-BOS will have 1 of 2 originally scheduled mainline frequencies replaced with an E175 this summer. Will now be 1x A221 and 1x E175. Fairly surprised by this considering NK’s entrance to this route. Also, MCI-LAX on DL will be 1x/day this summer instead of 2x in 2023. BOS-MCI has been largely ...
Jump to postDL MCI-BOS will have 1 of 2 originally scheduled mainline frequencies replaced with an E175 this summer. Will now be 1x A221 and 1x E175. Fairly surprised by this considering NK’s entrance to this route. Also, MCI-LAX on DL will be 1x/day this summer instead of 2x in 2023. BOS-MCI has been largely ...
Jump to postB6 raising bag fees, then complicates it even more with PEAK day pricing ... https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/jetblue-increases-bag-fees-again-this-time-depends-when-you-fly I love B6, don’t get me wrong, but this is another reason for me to fly DL out of BOS because I can get my first bag fre...
Jump to postEven further north and east than that. A friend of mine in New Hampshire felt it. A friend of mine a few hours north of Toronto felt it. Which is bizarre. Also 10s is long for a 4.6 4.8, I wonder if they won't upgrade it. Duration and magnitude are completely unrelated. Also, the bedrock on the eas...
Jump to postCentered in New Jersey it seems felt Philly through NYC . Even further north and east than that. A friend of mine in New Hampshire felt it. A friend of mine a few hours north of Toronto felt it. Which is bizarre. Also 10s is long for a 4.6, I wonder if they won't upgrade it. I remember hearing that...
Jump to postFlyingSicilian wrote:Centered in New Jersey it seems felt Philly through NYC .
It's not the first, nor will it be the last. There are active fault lines in the area. When they do move people usually don't notice. They tend to be very minor and mistaken for a clap of thunder or heavy truck traffic. If it happened in California most people would probably not have noticed. man, ...
Jump to postI can confirm the above. Our June bid packets only feature a handful of E90 pairings. I was excited to see that most of the upstate NY flying will now be on the 223. We will still see the E90 flying routes such as: NYC-HYA, ACK, MYV and the BOS-LGA shuttles. With that being said: (It may have been ...
Jump to postThe PDEW for BOS/TLH isn't that impressive; Q3 2023 generated only 52 (or 26 one way). NYC/TLH PDEW is a bit better, but not that great; Q3 2023 generated 85 (or 42 one way). If anything, I could see B6 adding New York from TLH, but it'd have to be with E190's and into LGA instead of JFK. The e90 i...
Jump to postAre there some carriers that would like to serve DAL but can't get gates/access? Certainly, AS and DL have room to expand that they are not taking. I don't think DL has room to expand in DAL since there was that whole lawsuit. AS probably does though. DL is down to four daily flights at DAL, so the...
Jump to postNot allowing Southwest to expand at DAL is the most anticompetitive thing ever. It’s unfair, and ends up affecting consumers more than anything. Yet it was the agreement they signed and are obligated to comply with. DAL was to shuttered with DFW opening because the airlines that were forced to move...
Jump to postRumors DFW close to being announced. https://twitter.com/Enilria6/status/1773738158909161475 When do the Wright Compromise restrictions on WN getting DFW gates expire? Was it this year? They can start there in January. Ah okay cool. And they don't have to give up any DAL gates anymore as of 2025?
Jump to postI wonder how Fort Lauderdale toTallahassee is doing. I have been hearing more rumors of rap cuts. It would not surprise me if Jetblue pulled out of Miami and went back to focusing at Fort Lauderdale. https://twitter.com/Enilria6/status/1771563863953035352 Emilia can post some really great informati...
Jump to postTerminalD wrote:Rumors DFW close to being announced. https://twitter.com/Enilria6/status/1773738158909161475
doulasc wrote:I wonder how Fort Lauderdale toTallahassee is doing. I have been hearing more rumors of rap cuts. It would not surprise me if Jetblue pulled out of Miami and went back to focusing at Fort Lauderdale.
In a rather surprising move they're changing MCI-JFK to the E175 which is basically an upgauge from the CR9, and as of now it looks like June brings a second frequency with 1x E175 and 1x CR9. Subject to change I'm sure. how is it an upgauge if the 175 and CR9 have the same number of seats? Maybe u...
Jump to postLAL officially announced:
https://www.aveloair.com/route-announce ... onnecticut
New Haven to ‘Lakeland/Central Florida’ flights are officially bookable. 2x weekly from 13th June. I get any service from Lakeland is a big deal, but… is that it? I was expecting more than one route. Bookable, but not on the route map yet. It's been a while since LAL had service on an established c...
Jump to postOverall the changes made improve service and coverage of the NYC-KC market. With AA gone from the route, Delta is dominating UA and WN Yeah. I wish we could see mainline on one or two frequencies either to LGA or JFK. JFK would probably be more realistic since they have more options on how to use t...
Jump to postDelta updated the MCI-NYC schedule this evening. Looks like the re-timed their evening flights to provide better spacing between them now that there is no need to compete with B6. In a rather surprising move they're changing MCI-JFK to the E175 which is basically an upgauge from the CR9, and as of ...
Jump to postPublix is headquartered in LAL, and they're expanding into new states lately. Not sure how much travel they do, but maybe something Avelo should consider or already has? PUBLIX does continue to expand out of Florida to the north .. no small company with nearly 250,000 employees systemwide ... PUBLI...
Jump to postPublix is headquartered in LAL, and they're expanding into new states lately. Not sure how much travel they do, but maybe something Avelo should consider or already has?
Jump to postDelta updated the MCI-NYC schedule this evening. Looks like the re-timed their evening flights to provide better spacing between them now that there is no need to compete with B6. In a rather surprising move they're changing MCI-JFK to the E175 which is basically an upgauge from the CR9, and as of ...
Jump to postAVLAirlineFreq wrote:evank516 wrote:AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Yes, the biggest question is whether this can succeed as a year-round service.
Why is that a question? It's a seasonal route.
I didn't know that. Thanks for the information. I hadn't seen that reported. Chill.
TVC attracts rich people. Turns out there's a lot of rich people around HVN. It's a whole lot of airplane from an unknown area, but if it can survive the first year, I bet it will be a wild success the 2nd year as word of mouth and marketing fully take root. There's not many places in America that ...
Jump to postDid you know Polk County, where LAL is located, had the 5th largest county growth in the U.S. from 2022-2023? 788k to 818k residents. An increase of 30K. I’m sure the area has grown every year since 2020. LAL will work. TTN is between PHL and EWR and has been successful for Frontier. People will tr...
Jump to postMaybe AUS, SJC. What about BNA? It's a fast growing market, albeit dominated by WN. What about RDU? They gave it a go around 2021 only to pull back once other cities opened up after the pandemic. Maybe try once more? Finally, what about MCI, now that they have that new terminal up and running? All ...
Jump to postRed-eyes expected to begin in about 2 years https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/s ... 8744&ei=15
Jump to post1 - I have family in the LA area and also Boston. Before the pandemic, JetBlue flew BUR-BOS and were up to 2x/day. Now it's gone. Any chance for a return? 2 - I remember JB constantly violating the LGB curfews. Yet somehow WN has stepped in and seems to be doing well with a lot of flights. And peop...
Jump to postThey're not going to just drop the CRJ9 because you don't like it. They'll drop it if it's not profitable. Also, Kansas City is a growing, well-regarded city, whether you like it or not. :wave: I didn't say they were going to drop it because I don't like it...sheesh. However, the onboard product of...
Jump to postShows as Embraer. It's a placeholder. It will be dropped to 1x CR9 if it's not dropped altogether with B6 leaving. A 3-hour flight on a CR9 isn't pleasant so if that's all they're going to offer they might as well just drop the axe themselves. That could never compete with an A220 with more legroom...
Jump to postSouthwest only flies to 4 airports from ISP and 3 are in Florida. They aren’t adding MCI-ISP Is 2x jfk new this summer? If so that’s a nice pickup. Probably better to have 2 on one airline than be split across two anyway Yeah, the 2x will be new. Was supposed to be with the A221, too. Could see the...
Jump to postAS has retaliated at STS. STS-LAS returns on AS Oct 1st. They last flew the route 2008-2012. Avelo has been running STS-LAS since fall 2021, usually 4x weekly. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alaska-airlines-deepens-commitment-bay-120000700.html How much more service can this airport even handle? Ev...
Jump to postI am slightly surprised they didn't just cut out MKE altogether too instead of just making it BOS only. I didn't think MKE was doing any better than MCI was. MKE yields have been hugely better than Kansas City -- this is average through Q3 2023, raw averages: Boston 18.14 cents per mile MKE 11.93 c...
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