x1234 wrote:With DL's love of the A330 series I wonder if DL is interested in buying the A330's?
No. Olympic operated out of the AA terminal at JFK continuously from the 1960s until the late 80s. During the 1970s and 1980s, the Olympic name appeared boldly beside AA’s name on the stone facade of the front-facing eastern side of the AA terminal. Around 1988, OA moved next door to the UA termina...
Jump to postThat is definitely JFK and looks like SX-OAB is taxiing out to the runway from the old American Airlines Terminal where it operated from at the time. I never understood why OA went to the AA terminal (wasn't it at the IAB for a time). Eventually, OA ended up at T1 until the JFK-ATH route was closed...
Jump to postHey on the glass half full side of it...reduces some cash burn plus most people aren’t super time sensitive these days, and might cause someone to miss their thanksgiving super spreader dinner. There aren’t any Neal Pages this year rushing home from business trips for thanksgiving dinner via planes...
Jump to postMost of these comments make me laugh. People act as if UA is going to have buckets of money to redevelop new facilities; aggressively enter new markets which may take many years of development to ever turn a profit; and all under the nose of two Juggernauts, AA/B6 and DL. I see a transcon presence.....
Jump to postHere's the LHR page from Departed Flights effective 7/2001, if you can pick out any possible AA stuff. That was just a little less than three months after AA bought the assets. http://www.departedflights.com/AA070201p70.html The acquisition of TWA’s LHR authorities took place in 1991 with the opera...
Jump to postWell we know they operate 757s. BUT say you have less then 50 people on board. Do you still need a FA? I mean there are some smaller airlines out there operating smaller aircraft that have no FA. So what if they just limit the # of pax so no FA is required. Is that even feasible/legal? The number o...
Jump to postMy brother needed to reschedule his Delta flights due to a change in business plans this week, and has finally thrown in the towel on the airline. He said he just didn’t have days to devote anymore to try to get something done by Delta.
Jump to postIn the U.S. pilots are trained on cabin door operation and emergency evacuation. The safety briefing is the only thing not trained. Not true. My experience Is that most pilots have little knowledge about cabin doors and evacuations beyond...maybe...what they learned by opening the safety briefing c...
Jump to postYeah, probably a few hours or days for basic FA duties, compared to the time it takes to go from nothing to 757 airline pilot... Pretty injudicious statement. Not everyone qualifies to be a flight attendant. Some people have waited their entire lives to do such a thing. Have a heart. Perhaps in the...
Jump to postBut there is no AA+AS+B6 partnership. There is an AA+AS partnership which serves the purpose of SEA feed to AA INTL, and then there is a separate AA+B6 partnership, which serves the different purpose of an NYC presence. On top of that, all three of those mentioned carriers are still competitors , f...
Jump to postWell, that is one way to retain pilots. In flight testing, I was trained in f/a evacuation duties. It didn't take that long. When I look at what training a pilot has and what training a F/A requires, it looks like only a day or two of training is required: https://airlinecareer.com/expect-flight-at...
Jump to post3-way AA-B6-AS merger should be the question.
Jump to postIf AA and B6 actually progress to the merger stage, there might be restrictions against picking up the JFK pieces in a Delta liquidation, opening the door for another carrier to come in. UA, maybe?
Jump to postUnited would move in to ATL, and LAX. American would take over JFK and SEA. SWA and LCCs will pick at the rest, with probably Spirit and AK duking it out in SLC. F9 picking up CVG. You do have a point about United taking over ATL. My statement about ATL being Balkanized is still interesting to me b...
Jump to postjagraham wrote:But what DL is known for is killing all delusions of grandeur and focusing those they invest in on the things that can make both DL and the JV partner money.
Yes the F/A uniform is accurate,- Hawaii 5-0 2nd installment- had Hawaiian airbus almost every week, There was never PHL - HNL non stops on a regular basis, nor many others as noted above. United stewardesses of the era wore flower print muu-muus on Hawaiian flights, not the standard domestic unifo...
Jump to postUnited would move in to ATL, and LAX. American would take over JFK and SEA. SWA and LCCs will pick at the rest, with probably Spirit and AK duking it out in SLC. F9 picking up CVG. I can see UA taking back market share at LAX after a Delta liquidation, taking over the renovations to Terminals 2 and...
Jump to postUnited would move in to ATL, and LAX. American would take over JFK and SEA. SWA and LCCs will pick at the rest, with probably Spirit and AK duking it out in SLC. F9 picking up CVG. I can see UA taking back market share at LAX after a Delta liquidation, taking over the renovations to Terminals 2 and...
Jump to postI assure you that Delta's hub at Detroit generates more revenue than American's hub at Chicago. You assure me? Sorry, that doesn't cut it. Please prove your statement. Also please be aware that earnings are more important than revenue. There is plenty of data here in these forums to back up my comm...
Jump to post-CVG and HNL will transition from bases to AFP’s with approximately 80 flight attendants each. -ORM, SAS and TPM AFPs closing. -SFO will transition from base to AFP; will retain current staffing but no backfill for attrition. -EWR will no longer be a coterminal for NY-based crews. EWR flights will b...
Jump to postChicago is a much much more important destination than Detroit. Even though AA is and will likely always be #2 in ORD, there is no way they would trade #2 at ORD for #1 at DTW. There is no requirement for DTW to be a hub. In the event of a DL liquidation, DTW would most likely lose major hub status...
Jump to postHow long ago were those carriers 8x? I've never seen any DC-10 in other than 2x5x2, going back to 1982. Wrong. Swissair resisted going to a three-class service and opted to maintain a more comfortable Economy section long after other airlines introduced Business Class. Swissair’s DC-10s retained 8-...
Jump to postAssist? Delta needs assistance itself. With Delta’s equity in foreign JV partners evaporating all over the world, a Swissair 2.0 is not beyond the realm of possibility. I mean it is Swissair got hit because they spent all their reserves buying other airlines and was the major creditor to said airli...
Jump to postLMAO In reality American would set up shop at DTW post haste if Delta liquidated. Makes sense. In a DL liquidation, DTW goes to AA whIch then allows UA fortress hub status at ORD. Win-win. Chicago is a much much more important destination than Detroit. Even though AA is and will likely always be #2...
Jump to postSpaceshipDC10 wrote:millionsofmiles wrote:The -30s were all second-hand and retained the lower galleys.
Except for the three -30ERs lsf CP during the mid-80s. They had the larger forward cargo door.
DTWLAX wrote:alfa164 wrote:good2go wrote:JFK-ATL already exists. And has continued during COVID.
Sorry; I meant EWR-ATL
Why will B6 add EWR-ATL? DL is not big at EWR and the B6 strategy is to fight DL at JFK, not EWR.
CaptCoolHand wrote:Agree, Could be that as well. I can't remember where I read the "bug" comment now, but it seems like JB is more of the alligator in the Sewark now :p
B6’s “middle finger” is towards Delta. They smell Delta’s blood in the NY water.
Jump to postDTW/MSP - I don’t see MSP recovering from a Delta shutdown as quickly as DTW. DTW could become a fortress hub for Spirit quite easily, DTW a fortress hub for Spirit? What have you got against the people of southeast Michigan?! LMAO In reality American would set up shop at DTW post haste if Delta li...
Jump to postTold from inside Delta HQ that expectation is AM will file Ch 11 in US. No response to whether or not DAL is assisting legally. Aeromexico says it has not made the decision to initiate Ch. 11 Bankruptcy: https://twitter.com/SOYCarlosMota/status/1274047149270020097 Assist? Delta needs assistance its...
Jump to postUnited’s DC-10-10s were all factory delivered with the lower lobe galley, including the 5 which were purchased by DL as a stopgap against L-1011 delivery delays; sold to UA and then leased back to DL. In the mid-80s, UA tore out the lower galleys, increasing cargo capacity, and replaced them with n...
Jump to postUnited’s DC-10-10s were all factory delivered with the lower lobe galley, including the 5 which were purchased by DL as a stopgap against L-1011 delivery delays; sold to UA and then leased back to DL. In the mid-80s, UA tore out the lower galleys, increasing cargo capacity, and replaced them with ne...
Jump to postSome may have not hears that DL, when merged with Northeast, had 721's from 1972-1977? But why didn't they last long? Is it because they had other aircraft like the DC-9, DC-8, 732's, and 722's? Here is a little history of the Boeing 727 (all variants) that served with Delta Airlines that you might...
Jump to postDL’s BOS operations, facilities and slots would go to either B6 or AA.
Jump to postMy dad took me along on a business trip to LA and Phoenix in March 1971. I was very young but already Airline-crazy. On the way home to JFK via TWA, as we awaited our flight in the gate area, there were two Western 720Bs at adjacent gates. One in the old Indian Head livery and the other in the brand...
Jump to postHey, I was born in 1966 also! I can't help you about British Airways as I don't have any knowledge. But, for memory's sake, I flew from Belfast BFS into Tenerife North / Los Rodeos TFN on Aviaco DC-9-34 EC-DGC flight AO1701 on Sunday 16th December 1979. My logbook even states that our family of fiv...
Jump to postPeople don't really seem to comprehend how bad this is for airlines. We are going into the largest economic slowdown since the great depression (yes, even greater than the 2008 recession). The latest project has it that the economic growth will be -3% for this year worldwide. Our employment rate co...
Jump to postDL has been confirmed as the anonymous takeover of 10 A350s that LATAM dropped earlier this year. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbus-a350-idUSKCN21W1PU Thinking out loud - 30+ orders for A339 and now 20+ orders for A350. That's quite a lot of capacity for an airline that plans to be downsizi...
Jump to postNot anymore. https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/01/27/america-turns-to-the-clear-alternative-to-steel-sided-jet-bridges/ Well look at that! I stand corrected! Interesting: For some time, obtaining glass jet bridges was a major issue for airports as the glass structure violated fire safety laws. Accordin...
Jump to post[threeid][/threeid] Apparently DY are about to start accepting cryptocurrency for tickets: https://bitnewstoday.com/news/norwegian-air-to-introduce-crypto-payments-for-tickets/ On the surface, the move reeks of desperation, but the Norwegian Block Exchange (their crypto currency exchange) and AY act...
Jump to postDoes anybody know the history of the aircraft? Reg; previous operators; first flight. It’s always jarring for me to see an airliner which once graced the world’s airports relegated to dirt landing strips and primitive conditions.
Jump to postThe TRUE mystery in the industry is how in the world does WN remain so profitably while being so very generous with their heavily unionized employees? That one I can't figure out at all. WN has very high employee productivity. Their staff works very hard. WN rewards that high productivity with good...
Jump to postI'm no expert on the matter, but I have to imagine that outsourcing international flying to joint venture partners must be a winning formula that produces extraordinary shareholder return to DL investors. While AA and UA are busy launching exciting and exotic routes (from an AV geek perspective any...
Jump to postA380, without a doubt. Looks like a manatee, IMHO.
Jump to postTWA 747-131
National 747-135
United 747-122
Northwest Orient 747-251B
American 747-123
American 747SP-31
KLM 747-206B Combi
Swissair 747-300
British Airways 747-136
dc10lover wrote:If I was CEO of Alaska Airlines "With Profit$ I would pay off the AirCraft so that they are now owned by Alaska Airlines . A paid - off AirCraft generates the most Profit$$$$$$$"
1.Tower was never too concerned about delivering exactly what the passengers were promised. Non-stop flights were never a guarantee with Tower, nor was on-time performance. Delays were sometimes measured in days, not hours. Knowing what I know about Tower’s operations, they wouldn’t be too overly co...
Jump to postAmerican and United had given up on the idea of transcon 747 flights by 1986. After that, 747s were only used as subs or on positioning flights. -1230 Did Tower Air offer kosher meals in Economy? . United flew 747;s trans con until the Pan Am Pacific routes were acquired in 1986 when all the 747's ...
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