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by embraer175e2
Sun May 10, 2020 12:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

I take it you’re a huge ATR fan? I think it’s safe to say that most Canadian avgeeks are big on the Canadian built birds. I have to hand it to First Air though; they invented the ATR combi. These home made birds are getting older. This is what the topic is all about, what will replace them in 15 ye...

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by embraer175e2
Sat May 09, 2020 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

Dominion301 wrote:
embraer175e2 wrote:
CFM565A1 wrote:

Yup, just correcting your numbers. My fuel flow gauges on the 300 usually would read about 490ish PPH per engine.

Atr burns about 30 % less on their new turboprops.


30% less than a DH4, but not a DH3. The trade off is the ATR flies about 30% slower.

30% less slower then DH4.

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by embraer175e2
Sat May 09, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

Its still more fuel consumption then a turboprop.

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by embraer175e2
Wed May 06, 2020 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 767
Views: 72702

Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2020

When will BA restart flights to Pos?

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by embraer175e2
Wed May 06, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

CFM565A1 wrote:
embraer175e2 wrote:
CFM565A1 wrote:

1000Lbs per hr on the DH3 in cruise, CRJ is greater.

Yes much greater. Its a jet vs a turboprop.


Yup, just correcting your numbers. My fuel flow gauges on the 300 usually would read about 490ish PPH per engine.

Atr burns about 30 % less on their new turboprops.

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by embraer175e2
Wed May 06, 2020 1:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?
Replies: 35
Views: 4161

Re: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?

If ATR is doing research with ANZ then maybe the next hybrid turboprop of ATR will be purchased by Wideroe.

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by embraer175e2
Tue May 05, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 767
Views: 72702

Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2020

gunnerman wrote:
Apart from BA, VS and TUI, all have gone bust and VS is in dire straits.

Does TUI fly out of England to Trinidad? Who is VS?

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by embraer175e2
Tue May 05, 2020 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?
Replies: 35
Views: 4161

Re: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?

DavidByrne wrote:
IIRC I read Air NZ and ATR are collaborating on the development of a hybrid electric aircraft. Does anyone have any details of this?

This is a good one.anybody?

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by embraer175e2
Tue May 05, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?
Replies: 35
Views: 4161

Re: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?

I spoke to some Wideroe pilots a few years ago. They said the dream solution would be newbuild Q200s with a glass cockpit upgrade IMO its a probable dream solution in my eyes too. It is not going to happen . bombardier nowadays did not do nothing with the lower q series. They have since then lost c...

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by embraer175e2
Mon May 04, 2020 11:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?
Replies: 35
Views: 4161

Re: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?

With the Government of Norway having said that they want a fully electrified domestic flight network in the coming years, I am more seeing WF being an early bird for an electric prop whenever that might be launched. I guess the sector length is of no limitation here, when you know how short hops th...

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by embraer175e2
Mon May 04, 2020 9:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?
Replies: 35
Views: 4161

Re: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?

The Norwegian government doesn't build aircraft. I fully respect their greenhouse view but there aren't any plans yet for electric aircraft. Before this happens wideroe will need somewhere a fleetrenewal.

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by embraer175e2
Mon May 04, 2020 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?
Replies: 35
Views: 4161

Re: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?

With the Government of Norway having said that they want a fully electrified domestic flight network in the coming years, I am more seeing WF being an early bird for an electric prop whenever that might be launched. I guess the sector length is of no limitation here, when you know how short hops th...

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by embraer175e2
Mon May 04, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 767
Views: 72702

Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2020

baje427 wrote:
embraer175e2 wrote:
Is British Air ways the only company providing service from UK to Trinidad?

Yes it is.

Why? What about the other transatlantic operators in England?

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by embraer175e2
Mon May 04, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?
Replies: 35
Views: 4161

Re: Wideroe dash8 STOL replacement: ATR S series?

embraer175e2 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
I doubt it


The wideroe dash8 fleet is aging.

Whats going to replace the wideroe dash 8 aging fleet?

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by embraer175e2
Mon May 04, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

My understanding is that the DH3 fuel burn per hour is about 500lbs vs the CRJ 200 at 1000lbs per hour, please correct me if I'm wrong. Now thats a fuel guzzling adventure for AC . That crj instead of dash8 taking over some routes. 1000Lbs per hr on the DH3 in cruise, CRJ is greater. Yes much great...

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by embraer175e2
Mon May 04, 2020 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 767
Views: 72702

Re: Caribbean Aviation Thread - 2020

Is British Air ways the only company providing service from UK to Trinidad?

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by embraer175e2
Mon May 04, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

That’d be more expensive than just putting the second pilot in the seat. How would it be more expensive? Flyinf-Tiger talked about a 5:1 ratio, which sounds reasonnable; so, for 5 flights, you'd have 5 pilots in the air + 1 on the ground (total 6) instead of 5 pilots + 5 co-pilots (total 10). 40% r...

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by embraer175e2
Sun May 03, 2020 2:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Has anybody brought up the idea of the E-170 being made into the E170E2? Would it exceed the 86,000 lb weight limit? While having less seats, it would offer fuel savings and allow Embraer to remain a major supplier of RJ's. That would give you only 950 miles of range. That's not enough endurance to...

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by embraer175e2
Sat May 02, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Has anybody brought up the idea of the E-170 being made into the E170E2? Would it exceed the 86,000 lb weight limit? While having less seats, it would offer fuel savings and allow Embraer to remain a major supplier of RJ's. That would give you only 950 miles of range. That's not enough endurance to...

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by embraer175e2
Sat May 02, 2020 12:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Yes, and you should see the accident rate.

Is it high?

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by embraer175e2
Fri May 01, 2020 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

You don’t have an idea how expensive making an autonomous airplane is gonna be compared to having an young pilot. In your scenario, they’d be a pilot on the ground plus the plane would have to be certified to land without pilot input at every destination. How do you account for the pilot being inca...

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by embraer175e2
Fri May 01, 2020 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

that might well be ok for outside the USA bot were one to crash with fatalities in the USA? The loss of life would not start to compare with the lawsuits. were the airplanes to have a drone copilot? someone NOT on the airplane who could also fly in an emergency? That might also work . But? At what ...

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by embraer175e2
Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

A 25 seater, obviously none now available, but some of the first hybrid planes may be small enough. They likely would be a lot cheaper to build and maintain. We may have to wait quite a while yet for that. Meanwhile..... https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers/germanys-dra-hints-at-alternative-powe...

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by embraer175e2
Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

... A 25 seater, obviously none now available, but some of the first hybrid planes may be small enough. ... PZL M-28 Skytruck is alive and well, serving multiple operators (USAF included, AFAIR). It's a 19-seater, I grant you, but a stretch was designed and flew (as Antonov-38), so is a possibility...

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by embraer175e2
Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Compared to the mrj the e175e2 will be lower in maintenance. Because embraer already has a wide infrastructure set up for their products. Will the future us mrj customers suffer from poor maintenance? IIRC, Mitsubishi's acquisition of the CRJ line from BBD was largely done with the intention of giv...

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by embraer175e2
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Lower in maintenance costs for the above text.

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by embraer175e2
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Compared to the mrj the e175e2 will be lower in maintenance. Because embraer already has a wide infrastructure set up for their products. Will the future us mrj customers suffer from poor maintenance?

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by embraer175e2
Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer
Replies: 1171
Views: 148496

Re: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer

744SPX wrote:
Hopefully Embraer's next-gen turboprop will still see the light of day without Boeing financial assistance.

Are they going to make turboprops now?

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by embraer175e2
Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Today Boeing bounced of the Embraer deal. No more joint venture.

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by embraer175e2
Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Unfortunately? NO! The Limit has nothing to DO with Boeing. What it Has to do with? Are the USA Majors ready to risk labor Troubles, up to and including Pilot Strikes to move the limits set by the Pilots? I do not think so.. There are other Manufacturers waiting in the wings to sell airplanes that ...

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by embraer175e2
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

I agree with the sentiment that Embraer's best bet is outside of the US for the E190/E195-E2 but I wouldn't count them out yet totally for a blue-chip US order. If UA or AA feel they need to make a move to match DL's 717/A220 market space they'll be realistically limited to the E2 or the A220. If t...

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by embraer175e2
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Do you really see mainline carriers opening up a slug of stations in flyover country for one flight a day? Never said "opening stations", I said "converting cities from 3 50-seaters a day to 1 100-seater a day". Subcontract every aspect of ground ops and you can sustain a single...

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by embraer175e2
Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Alright Lightsaber, I'll bite, you keep pumping the M100 for some unknown reason. The Mitsubishi M100 is many years from entering service and will likely will be a hanger queen if ever enters service at all. The odds of the M100 being a viable commercial aircraft appear to be very low, based on the...

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by embraer175e2
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

OK, but it still seats only 50 (give or take) and falls within scope clause. You're trying to spin the issue in any imaginable way until you make us dizzy. But the reality is here: there were 2 aircraft manufacturers recently that made 50-seater jets (Bombardier with the CRJ200 and Embraer with the...

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by embraer175e2
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

The problem with the CRJ-550 is that, I believe, none of them are new-built and all are conversions from CRJ-700s. Reconfiguring aircraft for more or less seats is common occurence; but that doesn't help the aircraft manufacturers with selling more new planes. The crj550 looks more then a business ...

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by embraer175e2
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

The problem with the CRJ-550 is that, I believe, none of them are new-built and all are conversions from CRJ-700s. Reconfiguring aircraft for more or less seats is common occurence; but that doesn't help the aircraft manufacturers with selling more new planes. The crj550 looks more then a business ...

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by embraer175e2
Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

So what is going to replace them ? 70 seaters? UA is repurposing CRJ-700 as premium 50 seaters. Recertified as CRJ-550: https://hub.united.com/united-regional-flights-crj550-2641053393.html Eventually there will need to be a replacement. But DL negotiated for replacing 50 seaters partially with 76 ...

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by embraer175e2
Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Because there is no more market for any new 50-seater jets. The only competitor was the CRJ100/200/440, and it's gone off the production line as well. Why are they still flying if there isn't any market on them? There is no market for new ones. The ones flying are either fully paid for, or on cheap...

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by embraer175e2
Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

The embraer 135 trough 145 didn't receive an engine and wing avionics upgrade in decades. Why doesn't embraer seem to see à market anymore for this 50 seat regional aircraft?????? Does it have something to do with fuel? Still many are flying globally though. Because there is no more market for any ...

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by embraer175e2
Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

The embraer 135 trough 145 didn't receive an engine and wing avionics upgrade in decades. Why doesn't embraer seem to see à market anymore for this 50 seat regional aircraft?????? Does it have something to do with fuel? Still many are flying globally though.

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by embraer175e2
Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

9252fly wrote:
My understanding is that the DH3 fuel burn per hour is about 500lbs vs the CRJ 200 at 1000lbs per hour, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now thats a fuel guzzling adventure for AC .
That crj instead of dash8 taking over some routes.

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by embraer175e2
Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

I think scope has to change if I understand it correctly, the alternative is going to be very bad politically at medium/smaller airports for airlines and pilot unions. Since most scope clauses have a maximum ratio of 76 to 50 seats allowed, with the coming rapid retirement of 50 seat jets, somethin...

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by embraer175e2
Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36645

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

I think scope has to change if I understand it correctly, the alternative is going to be very bad politically at medium/smaller airports for airlines and pilot unions. Since most scope clauses have a maximum ratio of 76 to 50 seats allowed, with the coming rapid retirement of 50 seat jets, somethin...

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by embraer175e2
Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

is sure the solution for long term fuel gozzling dash 8's I take it you’re a huge ATR fan? I think it’s safe to say that most Canadian avgeeks are big on the Canadian built birds. I have to hand it to First Air though; they invented the ATR combi. :lol: “Fuel Guzzling”, we always call the classic d...

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by embraer175e2
Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

The Dash8-300s will outlive the CRJ-200s. When the Dash8s are retired, Jazz will likely be only CRJ-900s and Q400s. It makes sense that routes that are currently on the Dash 8 will be replaced with the Q400. The handful of airports that cannot receive the Q400 will likely be removed from the AC/QK ...

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by embraer175e2
Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

Why not use brand new ATR42/72s? Canadian North, Air Saint Pierre, Northstar Air and First Air use them in Canada, without a problem. is sure the solution for long term fuel gozzling dash 8's I take it you’re a huge ATR fan? I think it’s safe to say that most Canadian avgeeks are big on the Canadia...

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by embraer175e2
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

Embajador3 wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
embraer175e2 wrote:
What is going to replace the dash on these routes??


Nothing for at least the next 15 years.


Why not use brand new ATR42/72s? Canadian North, Air Saint Pierre, Northstar Air and First Air use them in Canada, without a problem.

is sure the solution for long term fuel gozzling dash 8's

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by embraer175e2
Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

anrec80 wrote:
danipawa wrote:
they are adding more CRJ ?


They may as well drop or cut frequencies to some rural and mountainous destinations.

Atr is the solution for long term rural flying.

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by embraer175e2
Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

anrec80 wrote:
danipawa wrote:
they are adding more CRJ ?


They may as well drop or cut frequencies to some rural and mountainous destinations.

Atr is the solution for long term rural flying.

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by embraer175e2
Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement
Replies: 72
Views: 9009

Re: Jazz Dash8-100 200 retirement

Why not use brand new ATR42/72s? Canadian North, Air Saint Pierre, Northstar Air and First Air use them in Canada, without a problem. One minor detail - Canadian North and First Air are the same company now, though the ATR's are all legacy First Air aircraft. Secondly - Why spend the money on a bra...

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