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by jplatts
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 877
Views: 110864

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

In what year are you thinking? 2025, 2035? B6 ignores the Midwest, they are nothing here. Speaking as an STL resident. B6 needs to add nonstop service out of BOS to some additional domestic destinations in the next 5 years (but after demand for domestic air travel out of BOS recovers) in order to r...

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by jplatts
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 877
Views: 110864

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

I got news for you, DL at BOS is going to grow, and it may seem bleak right now, but it’s going to grow. You’ve challenged what I’ve stated on this forum when I’ve provided sources, and you’ve shot down and tried to discredit what I’ve said and you haven’t provided any data or sources and it’s been...

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by jplatts
Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 1514
Views: 259741

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

It will be interesting to see what DL is left with after their equity partners emerge from restructuring proceedings, and if big changes in network structure -- more reliance on partners to fly to international destinations -- come of it. That might take a rewrite of the pilot agreement, would it n...

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by jplatts
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP
Replies: 56
Views: 3678

Re: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP

But it also presents an opportunity for a company like Breeze to make a significant impact. There entire business model is based on airports such as ISP and MDW. You can cover a lot of ground with A220’s and E-195’s out of ISP. Here were the load factors, number of passengers, number of seats, and ...

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by jplatts
Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 934
Views: 157675

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Follow up to my last post. Going forward this is how the hubs will be positioned. JFK/LGA - pretty much what it is now. I don't expect any further cuts or big additions here, even when Terminal B fully opens in LGA. PHL - Primary Europe gateway when CBP allows it. CLT - Exactly what it is now, prim...

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by jplatts
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes
Replies: 194
Views: 20652

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

They have struggled sustaining long haul to Asia to even large markets like HKG and KIX. To be fair, almost nobody stateside has been able to make KIX work longterm, except UA via the uniquely concentrated power of the SFO hub JL can likely make SEA-KIX nonstop service work due to SEA's geographica...

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by jplatts
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes
Replies: 194
Views: 20652

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

Its a chess match, AA & AS want to double-down on SEA now. DL is going to either have to stick with it an play the long gate or cut their losses. The appetite to sustain losses and literally burn money is going to be low and they are going to have to pick their battles. DL can't sustain capacit...

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by jplatts
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes
Replies: 194
Views: 20652

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

DL didn't necessarily fumble SEA, it was doing fine, then now COVID hit. The DL-AS thing was years ago and both had moved on and probably would've been fine until 4 months ago. AA is playing with house money, going Lerroy Jenkins on the industry currently, and is more or less taking an aggressive &...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes
Replies: 194
Views: 20652

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Delta fumbled SEA. Given its investment I can not imagine DL did not run risk scenarios and see AA/AS/oneWorld coming. There is no way SEA can support hubs for AA/AS and DL. Barring AA having to significantly shrink, DL will have to retrench, at bes...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes
Replies: 194
Views: 20652

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

American couldn't make ORD work to Asia. I would have to bet that they have much more connecting passenger traffic there compared to Alaska in Seattle. "In business, competition is never as healthy as total domination.” - Peter Lynch. In Chicago, American had to compete with an 800 lb gorilla ...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes
Replies: 194
Views: 20652

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

American couldn't make ORD work to Asia. I would have to bet that they have much more connecting passenger traffic there compared to Alaska in Seattle. The big difference is that no one in the Pacific Northwest will want to connect backwards to ORD or DFW. Is Seattle that large with local demand an...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP
Replies: 56
Views: 3678

Re: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP

desperately need ISP-CLT, ISP-DCA on AA. Also PHL flights have been gone since COVID and are returning August 17th or 18th. I am unsure if AA adding ISP-DCA will happen with DCA being slot restricted, but I agree that AA adding ISP-CLT nonstop service is a possibility with CLT being a major AA hub....

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes
Replies: 194
Views: 20652

Re: American adds more Asia to SEA, and other long-haul changes

I don't understand why two carriers flying SEA-PVG is a good idea, particularly when it is a double connect from most of AA's network. Because AA will have the benefit of having feed from approximately 90 destinations that Alaska serves nonstop from SEA. That’s a pretty good source of feed. AA will...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP
Replies: 56
Views: 3678

Re: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP

Get DL in here with a few RJ trips a day to ATL and DTW. I don't know what's holding them back - maybe they're afraid with Frontier running ISP-ATL. But Detroit should easily work with 1 or 2 CRJ2s a day. I can't believe there's any O&D DTW-ISP, nor ISP-DTW, so you're really talking connecting ...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP
Replies: 56
Views: 3678

Re: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP

Wouldn't it be interesting if the town could 'eminent domain' seize the gates and by government force, force WN to release the unused gates, or perhaps less severe....force WN to engage in good faith negotiations with other carriers on those gates. Would probably be quite the showdown but could ope...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP
Replies: 56
Views: 3678

Re: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP

I do think if WN were to add anything new to ISP it would probably be a daily morning departure to DEN. It would feed everything southwest, west and northwest. I'm sure that Long Island snow bunnies would love seasonal connections to HDN. I agree that WN adding ISP-DEN nonstop service might be a po...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio - 2020
Replies: 370
Views: 44512

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2020

- AA/UA/WN/AC increasing flights in line with other stations. PHX for AA and SFO for UA seem gone for good, I’d imagine both will be brought back this fall on DL I had previously mentioned WN re-adding daily nonstop service to PHX from CVG once the COVID-19 pandemic is over with (a) WN having a FF ...

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by jplatts
Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP
Replies: 56
Views: 3678

Re: The Future of Long Island MacArthur Airport - KISP

WN re-adding ISP-MDW nonstop service might be a possibility with WN no longer serving EWR, with LGA being slot-restricted, and with there being a significant amount of demand to the NYC market from MDW.

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 877
Views: 110864

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Bloodbath or not DL needs to fly BOS-SFO if they are serious about their commitment to BOS. I don't know this for sure but I have a feeling that SFO is a huge driver for corporate contracts. I agree with your point. In addition, DL should also re-add BOS-DFW nonstop service once demand for domestic...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 877
Views: 110864

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Not sure why AS and DL still fly BOS-SFO. They should simply put a fork in it and end it. AS still flies BOS-SFO due to the former VX FF base in the San Francisco Bay Area, and DL still serves BOS-SFO due to DL having a FF base in Greater Boston. DL's SkyTeam partners CI and MU also serve SFO, and ...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 817
Views: 75323

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

There are some more routes that could be added by NK out of BNA such as BNA-BOS, BNA-ORD, BNA-DFW, BNA-DTW, BNA-IAH, and BNA-MYR once demand for domestic air travel returns with BNA being a major leisure destination. All of these routes have major competition from legacy carriers (with the exceptio...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 621
Views: 60896

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2020

Hmm, that is really interesting. Would they have closed up shop at ORD in favor of STL? This would’ve significantly altered the balance of power of the US3 for sure. It really is a shame AA didn’t keep and rebuild STL. I’d rather them have a hub to themselves rather than split ORD three ways with U...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2020
Replies: 284
Views: 40272

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2020

Well, that was LAXBUR that (correctly) said that, not me. Brand-familiarity doesn't always translate into market share...Southwest has tried to make inroads to the PNW market for decades and has never really been able to gain a foothold. Of course, a lot of that can be attributed to Alaska, who enj...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 817
Views: 75323

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

There are some more routes that could be added by NK out of BNA such as BNA-BOS, BNA-ORD, BNA-DFW, BNA-DTW, BNA-IAH, and BNA-MYR once demand for domestic air travel returns with BNA being a major leisure destination.

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by jplatts
Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 502
Views: 48169

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2020

I haven't studied the overall SAN turn schedule for AS effective Aug 1 but it appears that EWR is not starting as it was previously expected to. One reason why AS might not be resuming SAN-EWR nonstop service is that AS no longer has to compete with WN on SAN-EWR due to WN no longer serving EWR, AS...

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by jplatts
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots
Replies: 227
Views: 35740

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

I could see DAL/HOU as a possibility for WN. MDW and BWI may not work, B6 did LGB-ORD/IAD neither of which lasted very long. Though, people are saying that LGB is a WN type airport so who knows.... WN might be able to make LGB-MDW and LGB-BWI nonstop service work, even when B6 couldn't make LGB-ORD...

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by jplatts
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots
Replies: 227
Views: 35740

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

A great gimmick for WN would be a transcon shuttle operating every two hours throughout the day from LGB-MDW-LGA and then alternate with BUR every two hours BUR-MDW-LGA (which would give them an hourly shuttle between MDW-LGA). Just a thought. Post covid 2020 airlines are not into gimmick routes. A...

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by jplatts
Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 934
Views: 157675

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

- What happened to SEA-LHR? There is no need for AA to operate SEA-LHR nonstop service with (a) BA already serving SEA nonstop from LHR, (b) passengers already having the ability to book BA SEA-LHR nonstop flights through AA, (c) AS already codesharing with BA in addition to AA, (d) BA being able t...

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by jplatts
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots
Replies: 227
Views: 35740

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

WN to Hawaii from LGB makes ZERO sense when LAX is up the street; that's the EASIEST airport for them to do Hawaii from and they didn't plan on doing it pre-pandemic so you can pretty much count that out now I agree that WN is unlikely to add nonstop service out of LGB to Hawaii since (a) the desti...

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by jplatts
Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Delta’s former service to Nairobi
Replies: 12
Views: 2130

Re: WHAT IS WITH DL AND NAIROBI????????

China Airlines is a SkyTeam partner, yet Delta doesn’t serve Taipei and CI doesn’t serve Atlanta. While CI doesn't serve ATL, CI already serves DL's LAX and JFK hubs, and DL already offers connections onto CI's ICN-TPE and HND-TSA nonstop flights from DL hubs. CI could also add TPE-SEA, TPE-MSP, an...

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by jplatts
Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 817
Views: 75323

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Some of those you mention have only been mentioned by you and no one else. So thats not true. There was a post by southwest1675 last year that mentioned WN possibly adding BNA-IND/BDL/PBI/PDX/ABQ/RIC/GSP/SLC/DSM/GRR/MEM nonstop service, and that post can be found at https://www.airliners.net/forum/...

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by jplatts
Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 817
Views: 75323

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

He’s gotta be a bot. It’s extremely annoying to read a list of a dozen+ routes in EVERY post he makes, related on a tangent to what’s being responded to without actually responding to the questions at hand. Man, I miss the paywall. There are other individuals who had mentioned WN possibly adding BN...

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by jplatts
Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 122
Views: 13057

Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

I agree that WN is unlikely to return to IAH, even if WN can make service out of both IAH and HOU work, due to (a) WN having expanded both domestically and internationally out of HOU in the last 15 years and (b) HOU being closer than IAH is to many of the major business and tourist destinations in ...

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by jplatts
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Albuquerque/Santa Fe Aviation Thread
Replies: 31
Views: 3346

Re: Albuquerque/Santa Fe Aviation Thread

WN adding ABQ-ATL nonstop service might be a possibility with (a) ABQ being one of the largest WN stations that doesn't have nonstop service to ATL on WN, (b) WN being able to offer connections on both ends of the ABQ-ATL route if WN adds ABQ-ATL nonstop service, (c) WN having recently added some ot...

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by jplatts
Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Memphis Aviation - 2020
Replies: 139
Views: 12754

Re: Memphis Aviation - 2020

Yeah, I feel like SEA and SFO are now the low-hanging fruit. Indigo Ag most likely pushed Boston to the front of the line. I wouldn't be shocked to see Alaska start a Bay Area nonstop and a SEA nonstop on behalf of AA as this little AA/DL war rages on. UA is more likely to add SFO-MEM nonstop servi...

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by jplatts
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 108
Views: 11329

Re: Minneapolis Aviation Thread - 2020

While WN dropped MSP-ATL nonstop service back in June 2019, WN re-adding MSP-ATL nonstop service might be a possibility once demand for domestic air travel returns with WN having recently announced plans to resume ATL-SDF/OKC nonstop service in December 2020 and with WN having recently added a few o...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 122
Views: 13057

Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

There are a few more routes that could be added by G4 out of HOU such as HOU-CVG, HOU-LAS, and HOU-SRQ once demand for domestic air travel returns. G4 adding less-than-daily nonstop service to HOU from some markets that do not currently have any nonstop service to IAH our HOU such as ALB, IAG, ROC, ...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver International Airport Fined $33.5M For Noise Violations
Replies: 21
Views: 2906

Re: Denver International Airport Fined $33.5M For Noise Violations

Wow, that is rich! Anybody have an aerial photo of the area when the airport opened? Some historical images of the area around Denver International Airport can be viewed online at https://www.historicaerials.com/viewer . There were some homes built in the southern part of the Green Valley Ranch nei...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver International Airport Fined $33.5M For Noise Violations
Replies: 21
Views: 2906

Re: Denver International Airport Fined $33.5M For Noise Violations

Runways 17L-35R and 8-26 on the east side of DEN are further from residential neighborhoods than the other runways at DEN. The noise impacts to neighborhoods near DEN could be lessened by decreasing usage of runway 7-25 (which is closer to residential neighborhoods) and increasing usage of runways 1...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 934
Views: 157675

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

AA doesn't have the slot portfolio in NYC to be everything to everyone. In chasing the business traveler, they've been happy to keep frequencies high to markets like LAX, ORD, DCA, and BOS while serving far fewer overall destinations than their biggest competitors. One of the main reasons why AA ha...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 788
Views: 103463

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2020

wnflyguy wrote:
Has Allegiant Airline started MDW service yet?


There are a few more routes that could be added by G4 out of MDW such as MDW-LAS, MDW-SFB, MDW-AZA, and MDW-SRQ once demand for domestic air travel out of Chicago returns.

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 190
Views: 17770

Re: Upstate New York Aviation Thread - 2020

BUF / F9 is bringing back the MIA - BUF flights! F9 better hope the boarders are opened by then! That's right . Isn't border opening for general traffic an important consideration any route out of BUF/ IAG? DL adding BUF-SLC nonstop service might be a possibility with there being a significant amou...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 190
Views: 17770

Re: Upstate New York Aviation Thread - 2020

AA adding nonstop service to DFW from ALB, ROC, and SYR might be possibilities once demand for domestic air travel out of Upstate New York airports recovers since (a) ALB, ROC, and SYR are three of the top destinations without nonstop service to DFW or DAL, (b) DFW-ALB/ROC/SYR are all within the ran...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 934
Views: 157675

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Here are the Q3 2019 PDEW's of some top domestic routes that AA doesn't currently serve nonstop from DFW: DFW/DAL-PVD - 78 DFW/DAL-SYR - 69 DFW/DAL-ALB - 68 DFW/DAL-ROC - 67 AA adding nonstop service to ALB, PVD, SYR, and ROC out of DFW are possibilities once demand for domestic air travel returns w...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS officially sending the E175 to Alaska
Replies: 76
Views: 12124

Re: AS officially sending the E175 to Alaska

I can't imagine that the AS mainline pilots are particularly happy about this. SEA-ANC/FAI on an E75? There is *nothing* regional about such a route. Those are AS's trunk routes to Alaska. Sure it says it "complements" the mainline service, but you'd be naive to think that if it does well...

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by jplatts
Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS officially sending the E175 to Alaska
Replies: 76
Views: 12124

Re: AS officially sending the E175 to Alaska

Could this be a move to protect its turf before WN decides to stab them at Alaska? I find AS’s network in Alaska fascinating. Such a beautiful and exotic state with so many things to see. I'm not sure southwest would want to go into Alaska cause I don't believe most of their aircraft have the right...

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by jplatts
Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/21/2020:August Under Fire;AA Adds DFW-MYR;F9 Builds CVG;DL Drops LAS-LGB/PDX/SAN/SJC/SNA;UA Out of SMX
Replies: 64
Views: 12785

Re: OAG Changes 6/21/2020:August Under Fire;AA Adds DFW-MYR;F9 Builds CVG;DL Drops LAS-LGB/PDX/SAN/SJC/SNA;UA Out of SMX

DL could barely do a CR9 on AUS-CVG, not saying that it couldn't happen but I'd be very surprised. WN might be able to make CVG-AUS nonstop service work on a 737-700 once demand returns to normal levels if DL is permanently discontinuing CVG-AUS nonstop service as the PDEW on the CVG-AUS route was ...

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by jplatts
Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/21/2020:August Under Fire;AA Adds DFW-MYR;F9 Builds CVG;DL Drops LAS-LGB/PDX/SAN/SJC/SNA;UA Out of SMX
Replies: 64
Views: 12785

Re: OAG Changes 6/21/2020:August Under Fire;AA Adds DFW-MYR;F9 Builds CVG;DL Drops LAS-LGB/PDX/SAN/SJC/SNA;UA Out of SMX

DL AUS-CVG AUG 0.8>0[0.8] DL BOS-CVG AUG 5>0[4] DL BWI-CVG AUG 3>0[3] DL CVG-DCA AUG 3>0[4] DL CVG-DEN AUG 1.0>0[1.0] DL CVG-DFW AUG 2>0[3] DL CVG-IAH AUG 1.7>0[1.5] DL CVG-MCI AUG 1.7>0[1.5] DL CVG-SEA AUG 1.0>0[1.0] DL CVG-SFO AUG 1.0>0[1.0] DL CVG-STL AUG 1.7>0[1.5] WN adding nonstop service to ...

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by jplatts
Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 331
Views: 37351

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

Rates of growth on a very small starting number don't mean much. AA is the undisputed leader in frequency PHX-East Coast, whether that's NYC, BOS, WAS or MIA/FLL. WN, for its position in PHX, doesn't seem to be trying very hard to East Coast markets. WN currently has 3 daily nonstops to BWI from PH...

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by jplatts
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 122
Views: 13057

Re: Houston Aviation Thread - 2020

Ain't. Gonna. Happen. I agree that WN is unlikely to return to IAH, even if WN can make service out of both IAH and HOU work, due to (a) WN having expanded both domestically and internationally out of HOU in the last 15 years and (b) HOU being closer than IAH is to many of the major business and to...

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