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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 54
Views: 6212

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020

WN CEO confirms the "network effect" strategy for Hawaii service. “But it has a very important role in that it [Hawaii service] really supports our California business ,” Nealon said after Southwest reported its profit fell 21% partly due to higher costs and lost revenue from the Max groun...

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest misses on Q4 Earnings
Replies: 72
Views: 11067

Re: Southwest misses on Q4 Earnings

SanDiegoLover wrote:
SWA didn’t want to make any rash decisions on closing any outstations or large changes to their schedule.


Does EWR count as an outstation?

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by WPvsMW
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest misses on Q4 Earnings
Replies: 72
Views: 11067

Re: Southwest misses on Q4 Earnings

A lot of the cutting has been on longer, low-frequency routes, primarily so they have to cut fewer flights/routes and can reaccomodate passengers over other hubs. It's been stuff like BNA-BUR or IND-OAK. Correct. The cuts are driven by fleet utilization. Cutting longer, low-frequency routes allowed...

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by WPvsMW
Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

Ex-LAX to HNL, in F, if you can't book DL 611 in F (1-2-1, full lie-flat, full foot rest, big LCD), HA's 332s are next best, half a footrest, 2-2-2, and an iPad). HA usually has better food, but I get to practice Japanese with the bilingual FAs on DL. Related to this thread... IMO HA must retain A33...

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by WPvsMW
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

The context of my comment was a captain or FO addressing enplaned pax (given the poster). I probably should have PM'd him (or her). Mea culpa. In that context, however, I think the Star-Advertiser/Advertiser/Star-Bulletin database reflects appropriate usage that is commonly understood.

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by WPvsMW
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 54
Views: 6212

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020

OGG has no curfew or noise restrictions.... so the root cause is... low demand.

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

Intra-island on a 737 works but back and forth to the mainland is painfull. 4 hours on a 737. Yuk!! 4 hours? Have they bumped the speed of a 737 up a LOT? No, but WN now has an ETOPS seaplane.... repainted the restored Sikorsky S-43 at Pima. /humour https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/sik...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

Agree. WN may not launch Hawaii service from LAX, but they need to serve Hawaii ex-LAX in the long term. First, though, the low hanging fruit, esp. ONT., even less than daily. Leisure and VFR can accommodate <7x, and avoid the "parking lot" commute.

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

IMO WN's Hawaii service has made HA even more dependent on the F cabin. HA's replacement of A332 lie-flats with A321 recliners in F on some city pairs (e.g., HNL/SEA, HNL/SFO) is probably causing attrition in F traffic (pax looks for a better value).

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Boeing’s Responsibility in a Deadly Crash ‘Got Buried’
Replies: 52
Views: 8981

Re: How Boeing’s Responsibility in a Deadly Crash ‘Got Buried’

Gotta love that binary math, and Edge is now a Chromium fork.... "We adopted the Chromium open source project in the development of the new Microsoft Edge to create better web compatibility for our customers, and less fragmentation of the web for all web developers." https://www.microsofte...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

tph, thanks for the numbers... (from OAG, FlightGlobal? I don't think bts.gov provides such granularity). I will miss the A332 lie-flats to CONUS on HA. See pax comments on HA's downgauge to the A321.... https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Hawaiian_Airlines/Hawaiian_Airlines_Airbus_A321neo.php "W...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

I have to believe that there's a market for other than LAX flights, at least seasonally. ...Anyway, its a dream. The convenience of not having to brave the LAX traffic and insanity would be wonderful. Wait for the MAX gap to close. Other than LGB, the LA Basin is WN's for the asking. AS is too dist...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

Thought maybe we would find trouble both on and off airport property but nope, nothing but positive feedback since day one. Aloha spirit is real. It's a big reason pax from the E. Coast fly to Hawaii rather than the Caribbean. (BTW, it's "Neighbor Islands"). Saying "outer islands&quo...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

True, and optimizing the network (even with negative yield on certain segments) for overall network profitability is the art of network planning... but it's much easier with 4th or 5th gen NP software than with 3rd gen. Since I left network planning, IDK what gen any operator is using. Back in my NP...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

Post-acquisition of VX (Dec. 2016), why didn't AS rebuild its network to focus on Hawaii, to steal the march on WN? AS' network planners certainly had the data they needed, and ops had the frames ... but AS didn't act. AS could have done exactly what WN did, but didn't, and now faces a slippery slop...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:55 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-8i Converted Freighters?
Replies: 10
Views: 2143

Re: 747-8i Converted Freighters?

My fav frame (from a pax POV) these days is the A359. I like CI's the best. I have nothing against Airbus... may the best VLAF frame win the orders. An A389F twin? Dust off archives and make sure all the workstations are on the same version of CATIA.

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

Intra-island on a 737 works but back and forth to the mainland is painfull. 4 hours on a 737. Yuk!! Stop at 4 hours of flight time to or from HNL and you're in the water. There are plenty of mainland 4 hour 737 flights on all the majors. What makes Hawaii any different? The difference that makes 5 ...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

Thought maybe we would find trouble both on and off airport property but nope, nothing but positive feedback since day one. Aloha spirit is real. It's a big reason pax from the E. Coast fly to Hawaii rather than the Caribbean. (BTW, it's "Neighbor Islands"). Saying "outer islands&quo...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

Re: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

What's the evidence that WN is filling inter-island flights with RR redemptions? Only anecdotal, asking families with heavy sunburn if they are on award tickets. Maybe a third say yes ... I don't ask if ALL the family members are on award tickets. What the evidence that WN's inter-island flying ear...

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by WPvsMW
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering
Replies: 53
Views: 9522

WN's Hawaii "win" vs. majors/HA partnering

It's puzzling that even with interline and FF agreements on HA's intrastate segments, the US3 and AS did not have the growth in CONUS/HI traffic that WN has achieved. https://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/230/related/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNTc5NTQ5OTI5L3NpZC9DSGlYNXB6bw%3D%3D h...

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by WPvsMW
Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 54
Views: 6212

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020

Credit cards are keeping AA in the black... CFOs notice big revenue streams. WN is the first interisland competitor of HA with an established FF base. IMO, that is a major reason WN has thrived, and will survive, interisland.

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by WPvsMW
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MU to axe PVG-HNL by Jun 18, rumored to mull PKX-NYC
Replies: 15
Views: 3250

Re: MU to axe PVG-HNL by Jun 18, rumored to mull PKX-NYC

MU's HNL/PVG fares were always on the north side of cheap. One stops HNL/PVG had significantly better soft product for less money... so traffic on that MU route was almost entirely O&D tour groups from PVG. Not sustainable, but interesting to see MU tails at HNL.

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by WPvsMW
Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:29 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-8i Converted Freighters?
Replies: 10
Views: 2143

Re: 747-8i Converted Freighters?

I'm just curious why anyone thinks it will be Boeing by default. There is nothing stopping Airbus from beating them to the punch. Disregard the Beluga as an outlier. Airbus has built and sold 38 A332Fs and TMK there have been 2 A333 P2Fs. Airbus has unfilled orders for 4 A332Fs. https://www.airbus....

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-8i Converted Freighters?
Replies: 10
Views: 2143

Re: 747-8i Converted Freighters?

Solid rationale. Conclusion: conversion of an 8i is highly unlikely, esp. if there are 777Fs around. IMO, when the 748Fs time out, BCA will have a VLAF with a nose door ready.

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CR929 to become single pilot aircraft?
Replies: 48
Views: 6094

Re: CR929 to become singe pilot aircraft?

As soon Comac can certify a SP a/c and the CN3 can write the rules, CAAC will certify both the a/c and the operators for SP ops. I think the time frame is 10 years, 20 years at the outside. Supporting facts: high speed rail in China. Deng Xiaoping saw Shinkansen in a visit to Japan in 1978. He said,...

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CR929 to become single pilot aircraft?
Replies: 48
Views: 6094

Re: CR929 to become singe pilot aircraft

Dutchy wrote:
The pilot lobby is quite strong.


True outside China. There is no pilot lobby in China. There is only the CCP.

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:08 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Shortage and Future
Replies: 10
Views: 2327

Re: Shortage and Future

OP, baseball players in the minor leagues take the first offer they receive from a major league team, because then know they may never see a second offer. That said, if life has no meaning without a UA uniform, take your 1500 hours, and pulse, to one of UA's eight regionals.

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CR929 to become single pilot aircraft?
Replies: 48
Views: 6094

Re: CR929 to become singe pilot aircraft?

I infer that you haven't lived or worked in China....
I mean nothing untoward... but if the CCP decides the CR929 or CR939 will operate SP, it will happen.

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CR929 to become single pilot aircraft?
Replies: 48
Views: 6094

Re: CR929 to become singe pilot aircraft?

Agreed... but the operators (airlines) and regulators run on statistics. If the CCP statisticians provide the right numbers, CAAC, CA, MU, CZ, Comac, et al., jump onboard.
My guess is that SP commercial ops is already in some Five Year Plan in China.

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CR929 to become single pilot aircraft?
Replies: 48
Views: 6094

Re: CR929 to become singe pilot aircraft?

What's missing... is any mention of a remote second pilot.
Not an R2D2 or bounty droid, but a human. I think droid ops at Creech are one pilot flying one drone. The real risk arises in one (remote) pilot flying as multiple "FOs".

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by WPvsMW
Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CR929 to become single pilot aircraft?
Replies: 48
Views: 6094

Re: CR929 to become singe pilot aircraft

IMO, this is the CCP's solution to China's worsening pilot shortage. Abracadabra... twice as many ops. Problem solved. The advantage of a single entity controlling the regulator, the manufacturer, and the airlines. /sarcasm

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by WPvsMW
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1021
Views: 118800

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

(Speculation about) Why the delays with JA8362? Structural problem? The engines aren't Trents or GTFs, avionics are plug and play.... ergo, structural problem?

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by WPvsMW
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Honolulu to Europe nonstop, PPT-CDG nonstop
Replies: 21
Views: 1991

Re: Honolulu to Europe nonstop, PPT-CDG nonstop

IIRC, some charters have done the polar route, with a fuel stop in ANC.

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by WPvsMW
Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:36 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Honolulu to Europe nonstop, PPT-CDG nonstop
Replies: 21
Views: 1991

Re: Honolulu to Europe nonstop, PPT-CDG nonstop

HNL808 would know better, but TMK, all EU/HI charters make a fuel stop in N. Am. No nonstops, yet.

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by WPvsMW
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:25 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker
Replies: 18
Views: 1493

Re: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q--ZwolycbM at 2:27 and 4:22. Wheels in the water! Scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRPO_Fg2h_I at 1:24... a more cautious pilot.
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Skycrane! Strange... but true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q--ZwolycbM at 2:27 and 4:22. Wheels in the water! Scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRPO_Fg2h_I at 1:24... a more cautious pilot.

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by WPvsMW
Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:33 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker
Replies: 18
Views: 1493

Re: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker

My ARFF vocabulary just expanded. Thx, GF.

Two additions: crash tender, and snozzle.

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by WPvsMW
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Enroute S turn
Replies: 9
Views: 2348

Re: Enroute S turn

1. obtain flight number, e.g., UA1880 2. go to flight tracker site (there are several) or simply google the flight number and the first hit will usually be a flight tracker site 3. zoom in on the map at the arrival airport https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-tracker/UA/1880?year=2020&month=01&...

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by WPvsMW
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker
Replies: 18
Views: 1493

Re: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker

And its predecessor, the CL-215.
So... that's 3 types, purpose-built.

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by WPvsMW
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC35 diverts to HNL after passenger dies onboard.
Replies: 56
Views: 13455

Re: AC35 diverts to HNL after passenger dies onboard.

blrsea wrote:
Is there any reason the expired person can't be moved to a location away from other passengers?

Like in a crew rest bunk?? Not going to happen.

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by WPvsMW
Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1021
Views: 118800

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

https://www.businessinsider.co.za/amazo ... wn-2018-11
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When will AMZL open negotiations with BCA for a bespoke VLA freighter that is unlikely to cube out TPAC and to S.Africa? (37% serious post)
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/amazo ... wn-2018-11

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by WPvsMW
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:18 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker
Replies: 18
Views: 1493

Re: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_Be-200
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Be-200 is one of the few (the only?) purpose-built waterbombers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_Be-200

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA launching BOS to 3 new cities
Replies: 88
Views: 16313

Re: AA launching BOS to 3 new cities

I see BOS/GSO and/or BOS/AVL as the next steps in the "DL:Georgia::AA:NC" chess game. Eaton, GE Aviation, and other biz travellers in AVL, many financial industry travelers in the Triad, all of whom would rather not connect through the nightmare that is CLT in bank-time.

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How is the Boeing 747-8 a good freighter but a bad passenger craft?
Replies: 100
Views: 17452

Re: How is the Boeing 747-8 a good freighter but a bad passenger craft?

9Patch wrote:
Have any 747 passenger models ever been converted to a freighter with a nose door?

IIRC,some B747-100s pax frames were converted, IIRC. Spacepope would know. The -100 pax frames were built "tilt-nose ready", sort of like an "LTE-ready Thinkpad".

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates increases Taipei to 10 weekly
Replies: 11
Views: 2788

Re: Emirates increases Taipei to 10 weekly

Any ideas about what is driving the growth in demand? It can't be shopping in Dubai, or v.v. Cheaper one-stops to the EU? New Emirati-funded infrastructure project? Whatever the network planners see, it's good for Taiwan, and some good work by the TW Commercial Office in Dubai.

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker
Replies: 18
Views: 1493

Re: Firebomber or waterbomber or airtanker

Firebomber in Russia and Australia. Waterbomber in Canada. Airtanker and Firebomber (Coulson) in the States. Or...… Avion bombardier d'eau in French (Bombardier LOL) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avion_bombardier_d%27eau And now we know what the strange second water system is on all BD aircraft tha...

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How is the Boeing 747-8 a good freighter but a bad passenger craft?
Replies: 100
Views: 17452

Re: How is the Boeing 747-8 a good freighter but a bad passenger craft?

Jay, I don't think one seat more per row would justify a redesign. Three seats would do it, maybe two. Redesign means new wings and new hull, which means a complete redesign.

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by WPvsMW
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC35 diverts to HNL after passenger dies onboard.
Replies: 56
Views: 13455

Re: AC35 diverts to HNL after passenger dies onboard.

Who typically makes the final decision to divert if the CPT and flight-following/dispatcher/ops don't agree?

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