49 deliveres for Airbus in July, not too bad actually. Although no wide bodies 2 A220-300 32 A320neo 15 A321neo YTD 2020 (YTD 2019) A220: 13 (23) A220-100: 3 (17) A220-300: 10 (6) A32x: 204 (346) A319: 1 (3) A320: 1 (37) A320neo: 129 (197) A321: 4 (27) A321neo: 69 (82) A330: 5 (24) A330-200: 2 (4) ...Jump to post
Back in March, did anyone genuinely think that the MAX would be on the ground for the neck end of 21 months? I wouldn't wish Covid19 on anyone, but it couldn't have happened at a better time for the MAX. A 21 month grounding with the airline industry in full chat and the NEO coming off the lines at...Jump to post
How the MAX order book will look like end of this year, if more and more airlines and lessors will take the opportunity to cancel MAX orders and many other will be stated as unlikely? Even if the order book is gutted, eventually air travel is going to recover and airlines are going to need new plan...Jump to post
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Momo1435 wrote:Airbus June order update:
https://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/ ... eries.html
No new orders. 1 cancellation that was already reported = 1x A330-900 Avolon.
BOC has also cancelled 30 MAX orders https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boc-aviation-boeing-orders/hong-kongs-boc-aviation-cancels-30-boeing-737-max-aircraft-orders-idUSKBN2412PB#:~:text=June%2030%20%28Reuters%29%20%2D%20Hong,737%20MAX%20aircrafts%2C%20it%20added. Yikes. That's 120+ known cancellat...Jump to post
Just clarifying... these were Norwegian’s remaining Boeing orders? So now they only have 20 A321LRs on order? Also this is the largest single cancellation for the MAX? I believe this beats Avolon’s cancellation of 75 MAXs? Isn't it 30 A321LRs? I also wonder what will happen to the 18 MAX that's alr...Jump to post
Thanks qf789 for this mega update!!Jump to post
oschkosch wrote:scbriml wrote:Boeing:
65 x 777X
23 x 787-9
How much does this hurt the entire 777X business case?
For April, No orders 108 MAX cancellations (GECAS 69, China DevelopmentBank Financing 29, Unidentified 10) Plus a further 99 accounting adjustments for questionable deliveries https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-has-lost-more-than-500-orders-this-year-as-aviations-coronavi...Jump to post
Airbus Apr-2020 numbers are out: https://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/orders-deliveries.html The month in review: April 2020 Airbus logged net orders in April for nine commercial aircraft from its A320 product line from Avolon. By April 30th, Airbus’ gross orders in 2020 totalled 365 aircraft. Af...Jump to post
For a comparison, Airbus burned through almost the same amount of cash in the same quarter. Considering Boeing's bigger size, and the Max crisis, the impact looks to be less severe for Boeing than for Airbus. I think Boeing has a much bigger Military unit, which isn't much impacted by the Corona cr...Jump to post
I can't think of any rational scenario in which scrapping 400+ already built frames is the optimal choice for Boeing, so I think it's a moot question. Well, I can. Think of one scenario in where a model was grounded after two crashes. Later multiple engineering and etical issues would surface, leav...Jump to post
I think that when the Corona dust settles and all passengers on every international flight, and possible domestic flights too, is required to have recently updated "non-Corona infection sertificate", Delta's fleet would look someting like this (in a few years time): 50 A220-100 50 A220-300...Jump to post
The reaper is closing in sadly. >>>The four companies are staffing units, employing 4,700 pilots and cabin crew members, while about 700 pilots and 1,300 cabin crew based in Norway, France and Italy were unaffected by the decision, Norwegian said. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavir...Jump to post
GECAS has cancelled orders for 69 737MAX, leaving 82 still on order: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/ge-cuts-737-max-order-in-new-blow-to-best-selling-boeing-jet/ I doubt that the airlines and leasing companies will suffer any penalties cancelling the MAX as the program is, i...Jump to post
The 757MAX would have had a range well over 5000nm. It wouldn't have been able to compete with the A321NEO on short haul but the 757MAX would have been in a class of its own. The problem was the 757 ended production in 2004. The Pratt GTF first flew in 2013. So the 757MAX would have engines half a ...Jump to post
TTailedTiger wrote:VSMUT wrote:
The A321 was not nearly as capable in the 1990's as it is today. Airlines were still ordering 757's in the early 2000's.
I am surprised, that not already many more airlines have taken the opportunity, to cancel a part or the full number of ordered B737 MAX jets. They are far behind production schedule, they will be likely two years behind. Airlines shall have the chance to cancel orders without penalty, getting back ...Jump to post
Boeing March 2020 Gross orders All Nippon Airways: 11 B787-10 All Nippon Airways: 1 B787-9 BDS New Zealand: 4 B737-800A BDS U.S. Navy: 8 B737-800A FedEx Express: 1 767-300F Government of Korea: 6 737-800A Boeing order 2020 1st quarter Net Orders: -307 Breakdown: B737: -314 B747: -4 B767: 2 B777: -15...Jump to post
Airbus orders for March: Aercap - 25 x A320neo, 25 x A321neo Undisclosed - 10 x A350-900 Cancellations: 16 x A220-300 7 x A320neo 2 x A321neo 9 x A350-900 6 x A350-1000 Airbus also announced production rate cuts for all lines (see separate thread). ouch, I wonder who are behind the A350 order/cance...Jump to post
Breathe wrote:I'd this deal is going to be kicked well into the long grass for quite some time now, and given the climate, perhaps the ball may well never be retrieved.
Until Boeing comes up with something more than a levered gear to prevent tail strikes, the appeal of the lower weight long range MAX a/c will be tempered by the tons of concrete needed to get it off the ground. If the a/c is RTS and the back log of A321-XXXX keeps growing, clients will be tempted, ...Jump to post
Avalon cancels 75 737MAX and 4 A330neo. 16 737MAX deferred from 2020-2023 to beyond 2024 and 9 A320neo family deferred from 2020-2021 to 2027 https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transport/lessor-avolon-cancels-or-defers-over-100-aircraft/137732.article This is just the start of the carnage on the orde...Jump to post
gmt wrote:Does anyone know why some airlines like Wizzair here in Europe does not have any option to contact them by email or chat. Their only option is to call their call center.
https://youtu.be/EESYomdoeCs Very good 20 minute Documentary on YouTube by Bloomberg on “How Boeing Lost it’s way”. They speak to ex-employees and industry experts and give you a full picture of essentially what made boeing the great company that it is but also what made it not so good. Most of the...Jump to post
February Boeing orders are out.
Net order february: -25
Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled): A319: UFO - 5 Hamburg International - 2 A320: Ural Air - 7 Iran Air - 6 Mexicana - 4 UFO - 2 CASC - 1 A321: Delta - 28 Iran Air - 7 Thanks Speedy ...Jump to post
Airbus Feb-2020 Order and delivery numbers are out. https://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/orders-deliveries.html No orders, nothing cancelled....so just nothing. After the excellent Jan-2020 comes the boring Feb-2020. In February, Airbus delivered 55 aircraft to 35 customers. Single-aisle deliveri...Jump to post
Well, 777-9 and 777-8 is in the same family and both are quite similar. As for the A330-900, I do not think they ordered it (yet). Wouldn't it be more reasonable to expand the 777-9 order to 777-10 instead of taking A330-900? But who knows what Emirates would do. Airbus received a firm order for 40...Jump to post
keesje wrote:Ignore Boeings unique accounting rules & you are in a lovely reality.
Production rate will be boosted to 67 per month in 2023: https://www.wsj.com/articles/airbus-puts-squeeze-on-boeings-737-max-as-crisis-drags-11581581121 Airbus SE is ramping up production of its bestselling single-aisle jet, moving to fill a hole in the market created by the prolonged grounding of ...Jump to post
Another battle won by the A220 : https://airbuspress.airbus-helicopters.info//en/ref/view_mobile.html?id=442 as said before, the A220 could be ideal for African airlines. In this case, the A220 can probably serve all African destinations from Nigeria, plus a bunch of European ones. Good luck Air Pe...Jump to post
Nordic Aviation Capital orders 20 A220's
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... craft.html
Airbus just posted the December and 2019 orders and delivery summary on twitter. https://twitter.com/Airbus/status/1215692033949687814 https://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/orders-deliveries.html 863 aircrafts delivered, 1,131 new aircraft orders of which 768 are net orders and they have a backlog...Jump to post
All interesting. The cheaper price seems to win over product quality every time. He stated he was waiting on Boeing and said the 321 with all the bells and whistles still can’t do what the 757 can but Boeing has their hands full. .... FACT the A321XLR runs circles around the 757. And it only took t...Jump to post
What I understand is a launch in 2022-2025 for an EIS in 2027. It is also doable ... I agree with RJMAZ :thumbsup: It took Boeing nearly six years from MAX launch to EIS. It took Boeing six years from 747-8 launch to EIS. The 777X will be over seven years from launch to EIS. Those were all derivati...Jump to post
At an interview from the CES convention with CNBC, when Ed Bastion was asked about the Boeing 737 MAX, he went on to mention they were waiting to order their new airplane... the way he phrased it seemed like he meant the NMA rather than the MAX. You can watch the interview below, https://youtu.be/_...Jump to post
Order for December so far seems to be: United: 50 A321XLR Sky: 10 A321XLR Air France: 10 A350-1000 + 60 A220-300 Spirit: 100 A32xNEO BOC 20 A320NEO Total: 250 Please correct if I missed something. You missed the 1st BOC order for 18 A320neo. And AF ordered the A350-900 not the -1000 Ah .. thanks. A...Jump to post
5th Quarter? lol When are the year end review by both Airbus and Boeing? It used to be called Leahys 5th quarter as Airbus "magically" announced buckets of order after December 31st related to the previous year, resulting in Airbus winning the order-race. Of course we all know that large ...Jump to post