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by smithbs
Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?
Replies: 58
Views: 11515

Re: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?

Deepgreen wrote:
I must admit that I hadn't realised FX still had any DC-10s (or, indeed, that there were any civil DC-10s still flying at all!).


Oh yeah, FX is still using them. I see them regularly over my house going into SLC, but lately been seeing more MD-11. I'm happy either way. ;)

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by smithbs
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did the Delta 727-100 not last long?
Replies: 8
Views: 1604

Re: Why did the Delta 727-100 not last long?

Great topic. The Delta livery on the 727-100 looks great. What made the 727-200 Advanced so advanced? Was it capacity increase or thrust? Thoughts welcome. "Advanced" was a term often used by Boeing in the 1960s and 1970s. It generally referred to an improved model (usually better weights...

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by smithbs
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 87
Views: 12448

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

To add to the discussion: the 721 of the 1960s hung its hat on the fact that it could rocket off a regular runway and out-range the Caravelle, DC-9, BAC-111, 732 and similar contemporary jets. The 722 ADV kept that tradition: being able to get off the runway with some hustle, carry more passengers a...

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by smithbs
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ cancelled plans for BRU, are loads that bad on EU flights?
Replies: 20
Views: 4261

Re: SQ cancelled plans for BRU, are loads that bad on EU flights?

Singapore does not allow international transit, so even if you're on a flight BKK-SIN or KUL-SIN or JKT-SIN (the bread and butter connections), you're not allowed to take a connection, even though you'd stay airside all the time. That cut off significant revenue potential and gave traffic to QR, EK...

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by smithbs
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ravn Alaska closing its doors?
Replies: 160
Views: 23030

Re: Ravn Alaska closing its doors?

bennett123 wrote:
Is hiring the same management team a smart move?.


If engaged smartly, they could tell you how to operate in that region, what the challenges are, and why they didn't have enough cash when it counted. Valuable information, if you play it right.

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by smithbs
Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates CEO says no new widebodies will launch in years
Replies: 51
Views: 15003

Re: Emirates CEO says no new widebodies will launch in years

Airbus already sold about 600 XLRs. Do you still consider this too niche? Surely a 200-250 seater with range around ~6,000nmi would be useful since Both Airbus and Boeing doesn't offer one. B797 is too small and compete with A321XLR and it doesn't have enough range and capability to replace B767-30...

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by smithbs
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?
Replies: 69
Views: 13959

Re: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?

And yeah with the current situation the 332’s will suffice, there’s definitely no HNL-Europe demand right now, actually not really any demand anywhere :( and I think the 332’s are quite new as well. I think the demand is cut off at the source. I would love to go to Hawaii right about now, but it ap...

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by smithbs
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates CEO says no new widebodies will launch in years
Replies: 51
Views: 15003

Re: Emirates CEO says no new widebodies will launch in years

I'd say that Airbus would be in better position to developed such aircraft. Their A330neo is drying up in recent months because of the pandemic. They would need to think about its replacement in 2025 at least. I don't think there are enough room between A321 and A359 to support a new widebody desig...

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by smithbs
Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Piper PA-32 Fatal Crash in Utah Neighborhood, 25 July 2020
Replies: 35
Views: 6965

Re: Piper PA-32 Fatal Crash in Utah Neighborhood, 25 July 2020

Hate to see this happen. The victims have been identified. Injuries ranged from fatalities to one person walking away. https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/west-jordan-police-identify-victims-in-plane-crash Not the only air incident lately. At least this other one was a forced roadway landing wi...

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by smithbs
Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest will not furlough/lay off workers on Oct. 1
Replies: 35
Views: 7375

Re: Southwest will not furlough/lay off workers on Oct. 1

An incredible number of employees took voluntary long-term leaves with partial pay or a buyout to leave the Company. The last number I saw was nearly 17,000 of 61,000 employees signed up for one of the programs. That is almost 28% of the workforce. Included in that number is, I believe, almost 24% ...

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by smithbs
Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?
Replies: 69
Views: 13959

Re: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?

... I agree entirely with your post. There are some of us who have a strong preference. I love flying AS but I can't do 737 to Hawaii (until I can afford flying F, at least). I did it once, and decided never again. I've determined that my limit in narrow bodies is about 3-4 hours. If the flight is ...

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by smithbs
Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:01 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35 vs F-18 Growler for Penetrating Air Defense
Replies: 13
Views: 1616

Re: F-35 vs F-18 Growler for Penetrating Air Defense

There is a whole field of science behind this. You first have to decide what you are going to be doing. Is it a short-term or one-off strike, like Libya in 1986? Is it for a long-term dominance, like Bekaa Valley in 1983 or Iraq in 1991? In the Libyan case, it wasn't necessary to physically destroy ...

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by smithbs
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:20 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Indonesia approved for MV-22 acquisition
Replies: 4
Views: 945

Re: Indonesia approved for MV-22 acquisition

I'll believe the sale when the aircraft actually arrive. It's an expensive niche aircraft to get into.

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by smithbs
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:10 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F18, why not a side stick ?
Replies: 20
Views: 1390

Re: F18, why not a side stick ?

As many already know, the initial F-16s stick didn't move at all. It now moves 1/4 inch in pitch and roll to give the pilot a warm fuzzy. I think the initial F-16 fixed side stick was a bit of a controversy at the time, and the Grumman design team might have felt that taking on a fresh controversy ...

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by smithbs
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:59 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Do Military Aircraft make refueling stops while enroute or are they just refueled while flying?
Replies: 21
Views: 1472

Re: Do Military Aircraft make refueling stops while enroute or are they just refueled while flying?

I did a dozen 8+ hour legs in the A-10. Couple of misconceptions: Tankers aren’t fragged to fly in orbits just waiting for receivers. It’s all carefully scheduled, coordination overseas can be difficult depending on area and mission. Second, every airlift mission has a “billpayer”; nothing is for f...

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by smithbs
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Idaho Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 95
Views: 7498

Re: Idaho Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020

Re: Idaho Travel Idaho as a whole is rather underrated (and unknown). There are many unique and beautiful scenic sights in Idaho that aren’t well known such as Craters of the Moon and the Sawtooth range. The latter rivals the Tetons in my opinion in beauty. Northern Idaho has beautiful lakes and sc...

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by smithbs
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European Aviation plans to have a fleet of A340 cargo
Replies: 36
Views: 6334

Re: European Aviation plans to have a fleet of A340 cargo

Sounds very inconvenient to go through this trouble without a main cargo door. That's a big cabin to be loading through regular pax doors. Is it because A346's are that cheap right now?

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by smithbs
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 297
Views: 51789

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

planecane wrote:
Also they released a very revealing video:


What did you find revealing about the video? I saw a takeoff, a landing, and two of the world's most uncomfortable jumpseats.

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by smithbs
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC-10 Weights Over Time
Replies: 16
Views: 3900

Re: DC-10 Weights Over Time

May I also tagged on this post and ask about the useful payload for DC10-30F, with range for about 8 hours, can it get up to 70,000kg? If better materials aren't available, I used the airport planning characteristics document (ACAP). It includes a ton of info and payload-range graphs for representa...

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by smithbs
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:43 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: El Al ops
Replies: 5
Views: 2142

Re: El Al ops

As far as I remember, El Al traditionally suspended all flight operations during the period of the Jewish sabbath (sundown Friday until sundown Saturday). However, recently I have seen on Flightradar24 El Al flights that are airborne during this period. The arrivals/departure display on FR24 also s...

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by smithbs
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:36 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC-10 Weights Over Time
Replies: 16
Views: 3900

Re: DC-10 Weights Over Time

Max Q wrote:
Was there a higher than 572k option available for civil aircraft ?


I think some pax DC-10s topped out at 590k in the early 1980s (or at best late 1970s), probably using the KC-10 technology once it was figured out.

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by smithbs
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:34 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: RAF's VIP A330 MRTT getting 'Austin Powers' Repaint
Replies: 91
Views: 9130

Re: RAF's VIP A330 MRTT getting 'Austin Powers' Repaint

Looks fairly good. I probably would have suggested slightly less exaggeration of the flag lines, but I wonder if the artist was trying too hard to not appear like BA. Definitely an improvement over the dull gray colors for a head of state transport.

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by smithbs
Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't the AN225 have passenger service?
Replies: 46
Views: 9021

Re: Why doesn't the AN225 have passenger service?

Palletized seating tends to be extremely clastrphobic. In what way is it closterphobic? Please explain? Palletized seats tend to have a very tight pitch, are very narrow and no aisle in the middle. It makes flying on Southwest feel luxurious. Whenever I flew by C-17 or C-130, I avoided the palletiz...

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by smithbs
Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A350 in El Paso
Replies: 41
Views: 10129

Re: Delta A350 in El Paso

A couple of questions come to mind: Why does the US Dept of Defense use Delta, a private company, to transport government employees? Don't the Feds have contracts with charter or other operators to fly troops? Are there particular advantages to using the A350 for these routes? Delta offers charters...

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by smithbs
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aberdeen ground collision
Replies: 31
Views: 7540

Re: Aberdeen ground collision

National Geographic: And now we can see the Q400 approach the E145 in their natural habitat. Will the E145 accept this suitor, or hold out for a 150 seater? Keep watching folks, this is a rare occurrence and we are lucky to see the regional airliner mating practice in the wild. In normal times, this...

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by smithbs
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TUI is already asking for additional state aid from Germany
Replies: 7
Views: 2367

Re: TUI is already asking for additional state aid from Germany

A recession would have been a certainty something around 2020 Nope. Recession indicators were reading low when 2020 started. Several sectors were trending upwards from 2019 in January and February. Anyway, it's a fool's errand to try to call a recession in advance - you are claiming to know the cau...

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by smithbs
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What happened to World Airways?
Replies: 38
Views: 6824

Re: What happened to World Airways?

One of the worst aircraft ever was their MD11 configured with 409Y. The complaints we got on that one, oh my they were bad. Seat pitch was like 27" or 26" I think. Correct me if anyone knows better. Even the military only choose it as a last resort, but the aircraft flew all the time anyw...

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by smithbs
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What happened to World Airways?
Replies: 38
Views: 6824

Re: What happened to World Airways?

Thanks for the explanation. But one more question, is the market even there for at least one large charter operator? I don't know, considering COVID changing things, but I still am wondering. Omni Air is still around. I got to sample their 762ERs a couple times for military charter. I wouldn't be s...

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by smithbs
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TUI is already asking for additional state aid from Germany
Replies: 7
Views: 2367

Re: TUI is already asking for additional state aid from Germany

A recession would have been a certainty something around 2020 Nope. Recession indicators were reading low when 2020 started. Several sectors were trending upwards from 2019 in January and February. Anyway, it's a fool's errand to try to call a recession in advance - you are claiming to know the cau...

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by smithbs
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Missile launcher found in baggage at BWI
Replies: 45
Views: 8430

Re: Missile launcher found in baggage at BWI

What kind of security is there for those military charters? I'd think more lax than traditional commercial. Sorry to resurrect the thread but I just saw it. For military returning from abroad (like me from the ME), you exit customs of the nation you are transiting through (for example, most USAF wi...

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by smithbs
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Pan Am disappear?
Replies: 76
Views: 9741

Re: Why did Pan Am disappear?

on Pan Am's demise specifically, it's hard to beat the book "Skygods: The Fall of Pan Am". Author put a lot of research into it. In addition to basic ingredients to any corporate failure, like mismanagement and hubris ("ahh! Arrogance and stupidity, in a single package! Very efficien...

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by smithbs
Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread
Replies: 124
Views: 15131

Re: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread

And now some controversy. I saw a documentary a long time ago that said that Douglas had signed a deal with Sud to build Caravelles in the US, got the plans as a result, then reneged on the deal and copied the plans to make the DC-9. I've heard that said several times. It was probably the case wher...

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by smithbs
Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TUI is already asking for additional state aid from Germany
Replies: 7
Views: 2367

Re: TUI is already asking for additional state aid from Germany

If this question is about bail out policies, then here's a thought. Typical recessions are like winters. Winters put an end to the excesses of the previous summer and make room for new growth in the spring. The things that got out of control or grew too much are cut back. The process repeats. It's h...

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by smithbs
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread
Replies: 124
Views: 15131

Re: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread

The best production quality film I’ve seen of Caravelles is in a Danish comedy from the 70’s. Olsens Banden film ‘Store Kup’ was filmed at CPH. Here’s a snippet.... https://youtu.be/6OUqR7Xf3ps Thank you for that link. Wonderful footage. Many great classics there. No clue what the movie was about, ...

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by smithbs
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus threatens to sue airlines
Replies: 104
Views: 20235

Re: Airbus threatens to sue airlines

Sell low, buy high? Isn't that how QR does business? Sorry, couldn't resist. I would fully expect Airbus and Boeing to be modeling their business for the foreseeable future. A couple months ago, a model for future business would have been impossible to create, but I would expect that at this point ...

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by smithbs
Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates wants to partner with a US3 airline.
Replies: 92
Views: 15507

Re: Emirates wants to partner with a US3 airline.

I was going to ask about AS, but with B6 already mentioned I'm afraid the thread will divert off into AS-B6 merger land.

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by smithbs
Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:57 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: P-8 Poseidon, fighter escorts needed?
Replies: 38
Views: 3618

Re: P-8 Poseidon, fighter escorts needed?

For fighter escort, it would just make the situation more difficult. The recon flight is going to be intercepted, of course. If the recon asset has an escort, then more interceptors will come out. They will still want to get close to underline their point of "we know you are here." In the ...

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by smithbs
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC-10 Weights Over Time
Replies: 16
Views: 3900

Re: DC-10 Weights Over Time

Great Post! I am also curious of these details. It sounds like you already know quite a bit about the old girl! Sorry for not contributing, but I hope that this post gets some good info! Thanks. It's an obscure topic to try to find out what was going on at Long Beach in the mid/late 1970s. Hopefull...

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by smithbs
Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Continental / TWA merger 1991
Replies: 16
Views: 2640

Re: Continental / TWA merger 1991

Maybe it could have been called TransContinental and World Airlines? TransContinental sounds good to me. Kind of like TransMountainSide Airlines from Johnny Carson's skit. Two struggling airlines led by two of the most incompetent, corrupt CEO’s at the time, Icahn and Lorenzo would not have been a ...

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by smithbs
Sat May 30, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hong Kong Customs Seizes Drug Shipment in 707 Engine
Replies: 5
Views: 2073

Re: Hong Kong Customs Seizes Drug Shipment in 707 Engine

889091 wrote:
I have heard of water injection on the 707, but drug injection takes it to a whole new level! :lol:


No 707 would get you higher. :lol:

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by smithbs
Sat May 30, 2020 5:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hong Kong Customs Seizes Drug Shipment in 707 Engine
Replies: 5
Views: 2073

Hong Kong Customs Seizes Drug Shipment in 707 Engine

Amazing attempt at smuggling 217 kg of cocaine. It was hidden in containers placed inside the combustion chamber of an engine in a shipping container. https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/hk246m-worth-of-cocaine-found-hidden-inside-a-boeing-707-engine-arriving-from-ecuador-at-kwai-chung-customhouse/ Apparentl...

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by smithbs
Thu May 28, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC-10 Weights Over Time
Replies: 16
Views: 3900

Re: DC-10 Weights Over Time

Great Post! I am also curious of these details. It sounds like you already know quite a bit about the old girl! Sorry for not contributing, but I hope that this post gets some good info! Thanks. It's an obscure topic to try to find out what was going on at Long Beach in the mid/late 1970s. Hopefull...

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by smithbs
Wed May 27, 2020 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 378
Views: 58834

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

I would think that Triumph would not have pulled forward their order book and dismantled their production line without Boeing's knowledge and consent (for both - building way ahead of schedule, and closing down - both are things that Boeing would want to control). In which case, Boeing knew what it ...

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by smithbs
Wed May 27, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC-10 Weights Over Time
Replies: 16
Views: 3900

DC-10 Weights Over Time

Greetings; I've been researching DC-10-30 weights and was curious if anyone could please fill in some blanks. Note, I'm specifically looking at DC-10-30 (not -20, -40, etc). Looking at the DC-10 ACAP, the usual MTOW listed is 555,000 lbs. However, on the payload-range graph, there is a second line f...

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by smithbs
Sat May 23, 2020 1:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Private Aviation after COVID
Replies: 22
Views: 2158

Re: Private Aviation after COVID

Hello first time poster long time reader. The predictions from a lot of experts is that at least domestically traffic will go back to normal by the end of Summer. In the case of my work we only slowed down for about 2 weeks and now we seem to have forward bookings for June and July plus May has bee...

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by smithbs
Fri May 22, 2020 11:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines planning on squeezing competitors in weaker positions
Replies: 236
Views: 38898

Re: Southwest Airlines planning on squeezing competitors in weaker positions

This should be of no surprise to anyone. For any company out there, the last several recessions have shown that if you can keep the books solvent and your head up, you can do well. Being complacent about a recovery may see the recovery pass you by. WN does seem uniquely positioned to lead the recove...

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by smithbs
Fri May 22, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airline industry without 9/11
Replies: 11
Views: 1590

Re: Airline industry without 9/11

In the 90s, I remember being able to go to the gate to greet arrivals, or being greeted right out of the gate when I'd arrive. The metal detectors were not much of an issue (kind of a breeze, but then I grew up near GEG and smaller airports are easier to get through). If 9/11 had not happened, I wou...

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by smithbs
Fri May 15, 2020 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virtual tour of UA 727-022
Replies: 73
Views: 8631

Re: Virtual tour of UA 727-022

Nice tour! Thanks for posting. I agree the interior is garish, but I appreciate that they tried to make a statement. Modern interiors tend to be bland, in my opinion. A statement of color or design would be appreciated. Also interesting with the interior design, with the mid-galley and then the coat...

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by smithbs
Fri May 08, 2020 4:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK's possible future?
Replies: 153
Views: 27358

Re: EK's possible future?

That is an exaggeration if I've ever heard one. No one is saying it is an eternal substitute for face to face meetings but I am sure it will reduce the amount of travel for face to face meetings going forward tremendously. A large percentage of the workforce that once were travel candidates now has...

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by smithbs
Fri May 08, 2020 2:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer
Replies: 1171
Views: 147738

Re: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4343442-boeing-engineering-plan-collapses "there was an argument for low cost engineering resources in Brazil. However, that is not quantified in the article and my suspicion is that while engineering costs may be lower in Brazil, it might not be by much (and c...

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