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by ElroyJetson
Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic mega master for more routes in LHR
Replies: 83
Views: 14743

Re: Virgin Atlantic mega master for more routes in LHR

This is all about DL getting a stronger foothold at LHR. The VS brand is just a stalking horse....nothing more.

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by ElroyJetson
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Delta increases stake in Korean Air parent
Replies: 82
Views: 13277

Re: Updated: Delta increases stake in Korean Air parent

People (cough, cough.... pilots) need to open themselves to the idea that there are alternate ways to define successes within the scope of airline JVs. Many people forget that the USA is considered a mature air travel market. That's not to say that there will not be growth, but it is already except...

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by ElroyJetson
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus launching A220LR or XLR according to Jon Ostrower
Replies: 80
Views: 17720

Re: Airbus launching A220LR or XLR according to Jon Ostrower

Interesting development. I love the A 220 family. If this is true an obvious choice for LCY-JFK. The field performance with the increased MTOW will be critical. I agree a premium heavy configuration will work best. Connecting major TATL business centers from close in airports to attract those premiu...

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by ElroyJetson
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Delta increases stake in Korean Air parent
Replies: 82
Views: 13277

Re: Updated: Delta increases stake in Korean Air parent

I think any reasonable person who is an av geek has to stand back in awe of DL's strategic decisions. They never miss a beat. There were many who have said DL 's partnership with KE will pale in comparison to the UA and AA alliances in Japan. The reality in NRT is not really Tokyo and Haneda is a ti...

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO
Replies: 54
Views: 4458

Re: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO

The AA flights to JFK will now often fly twice daily or go on hiatus. It will only fly for a week after the start date, then go on hiatus for a few days. Afterwards, the route will go on hiatus for two weeks during december. Not sure that the route will last. These AA flights actually surprised me ...

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO
Replies: 54
Views: 4458

Re: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO

Passenger Traffic Sets New July Record at RIC Richmond International Airport, VA (August 27, 2019) – The Capital Region Airport Commission reports a new month of July record as 386,931 travelers transited through Richmond International Airport (RIC) in July 2019, topping the previous mark of 373,06...

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by ElroyJetson
Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN ending ATL-BOS
Replies: 66
Views: 7307

Re: WN ending ATL-BOS

Another route handed to DL on a silver platter. I think the WN/FL merger helped Delta more than anyone else. ATL was gutted giving DL free reign to jack the prices up for the locals. AirTran was the only airline to have ever given Delta any meaningful competition. I am surprised that WN has kept RI...

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by ElroyJetson
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO
Replies: 54
Views: 4458

Re: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO

ORF sees a 9.44% increase in passenger traffic in July to 401,438 for the month. Based on this ORF should be on track to top 4 mil pax for the year which would be a significant milestone. Here's a link to the story. https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/local/mycity/norfolk/norfolk-international-ai...

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by ElroyJetson
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing delays 777-8X entry into service
Replies: 154
Views: 26022

Re: 778x mothballed?

Jon is normally a pretty reliable source, so I certainly wouldn't bet against it. There has been a lot of talk about it being dropped, but many here didn't give that much credit. Given Boeing's other issues, it seems like a fairly obvious way to clear some stuff off their plate. The cost may be the...

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by ElroyJetson
Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Piedmont..............gone 30 years
Replies: 78
Views: 8643

Re: Piedmont..............gone 30 years

Flew on a PI 732 from RIC to DCA in 1975. I was 13. I don't think we went above 8'000 ft.

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by ElroyJetson
Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Commences A321LR Transatlantic Flights
Replies: 87
Views: 19406

Re: Aer Lingus Commences A321LR Transatlantic Flights

Very happy for EI. The acquisition of the A321LR is a great move.

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by ElroyJetson
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO
Replies: 54
Views: 4458

Re: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO

Has Delta ever flown SLC-RIC or SLC-ORF? Correct, DL has never flown SLC -RIC or ORF on a regularly scheduled basis. We know UA has started flights to DEN from both cities and the routes have been successful. In fact, a second flight was added between DEN and RIC. Load factors have been in the mid-...

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by ElroyJetson
Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO
Replies: 54
Views: 4458

Re: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO

https://www.aviationpros.com/airports/p ... -in-fy2019
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Another link to the RIC pax increase and airport changes. Much positive news if you are a Virginia flyer.


https://www.aviationpros.com/airports/p ... -in-fy2019

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO
Replies: 54
Views: 4458

Re: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO

Since Air Tran closed shop PHF has been pretty dead. I think a few CRJ flights a day to either DTW or ORD might make it if anyone wanted to give it a try.

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO
Replies: 54
Views: 4458

Re: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO

I think CHO and ROA should definitely get service to DFW. ORF and RIC should get PHX, SLC, or west coast. I think RIC to LAS happens with G4 within the year.

Lots of opportunity for growth.

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO
Replies: 54
Views: 4458

Virginia Aviation Thread. RIC, ORF, ROA, CHO

Welcome to the Virginia Aviation thread. Please post any information regarding any Virginia airports outside of the DC metro. These are interesting times as RIC, ORF, ROA, and CHO are experiencing strong growth. According to FAA data at http//.www.FAA.gov/airports RIC 12.86% growth from 2017-2018 OR...

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by ElroyJetson
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC/VA/MD Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 322
Views: 37520

Re: DC/VA/MD Aviation Thread - 2019

I noticed in the FAA data set that I posted both ROA and CHO are also growing faster than the DC Metro airports. Yes, all of them are doing well from small bases. CHO in particular was pretty underserved, and now that it's taking longer and longer to drive from Charlottesville itself to IAD, the ai...

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by ElroyJetson
Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC/VA/MD Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 322
Views: 37520

Re: DC/VA/MD Aviation Thread - 2019

This thread seems to be very Washington Metro focused which is fine, but I think a different perspective is needed if this truly covers the three states mentioned. According to recent FAA data the Washington Metro area is largely stagnant in terms of pax growth other than IAD. The real growth is do...

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by ElroyJetson
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC/VA/MD Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 322
Views: 37520

Re: DC/VA/MD Aviation Thread - 2019

This thread seems to be very Washington Metro focused which is fine, but I think a different perspective is needed if this truly covers the three states mentioned. According to recent FAA data the Washington Metro area is largely stagnant in terms of pax growth other than IAD. The real growth is dow...

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN Practices Sustainable?
Replies: 148
Views: 15136

Re: WN Practices Sustainable?

WN is obviously profitable and I understand the "if it isn't broken don't fix it" mantra. However, they leave many profitable opportunities on the table. So far it has not appeared to hurt them. However, airlines like DL and UA have continued to grow and seek out new opportunities for grow...

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by ElroyJetson
Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters For DL And UA
Replies: 89
Views: 10569

How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters For DL And UA

I was looking at both DL and UA's second quarter earnings statements and it was a bit surprising how little cargo contributes to the bottom line. For example, DL had revenues of 12.5 billion dollars and cargo only added 186 million dollars to that total. Put another way, cargo represented approximat...

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next wave of TATL per Boyd Group
Replies: 160
Views: 18643

Re: Next wave of TATL per Boyd Group

JAX and RIC would be my top two picks as an A321 Neo LR can reach both cities, each has a strong Corporate presence, and both airports are growing rapidly in term of pax traffic. Colonial Williamsburg, Busch Gardens, Jamestown are all 40 miles from RIC. JAX has a lot of tourist options down the coas...

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC/VA/MD Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 322
Views: 37520

Re: DC/VA/MD Aviation Thread - 2019

Regarding Metro to Dulles As a frequent user, coming from upper NW DC, I am not planning the trip being any quicker then it is currently. I give myself 2 hours, with the quickest journey haven taken about 1+25. That was with literally no longer then a minute wait at metro center, or for making the ...

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by ElroyJetson
Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future operators of Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner
Replies: 90
Views: 15518

Re: Future operators of Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner

I gotta say, the 78X looks rather sharp in DL colors. Agree, though I've really yet to find a livery that 78X doesn't look fab in! I do wonder though if DL would paint the rakes like that, were they to acquire them. I think the 787-10 would be an outstanding choice for DL. SEA-ICN, SEA-PEK, SEA-TYO...

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Commecial aircraft cruise altitude 'no fly' zones
Replies: 16
Views: 3681

Re: Commecial aircraft cruise altitude 'no fly' zones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Peary
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I am from Virginia. Camp Peary is a CIA training base in the tidewater area. It does not appear on google maps and it cannot be overflown. Many such sites exist.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Peary

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH will look at A321XLR, but it's no game-changer: CEO
Replies: 183
Views: 25042

Re: LH will look at A321XLR, but it's no game-changer: CEO

Game changer...no. It's a derivative of a derivative. But it's still a hell of a lot better than a 30 year old 757. Just saying.....

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34265

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

So to summarize...... According to Leeham a 789 costs Boeing roughly $90 million to build. An A359 costs Airbus roughly $110 million to build. Okay people, mystery solved. The reason A359 new orders have dried up is that one of its chief competing aircraft costs $20 million less at the start. Obvio...

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 34265

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

So to summarize...... According to Leeham a 789 costs Boeing roughly $90 million to build. An A359 costs Airbus roughly $110 million to build. Okay people, mystery solved. The reason A359 new orders have dried up is that one of its chief competing aircraft costs $20 million less at the start. Obviou...

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by ElroyJetson
Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossip, Announcements
Replies: 361
Views: 67197

Re: Paris Airshow 2019, Expectations, Gossibs, Announcements

edealinfo wrote:
ElroyJetson wrote:

I would love to see some A 220 sales as I think it is an outstanding aircraft.


Outstanding? In what way?



Extremely efficient. A generation ahead of other aircraft in its class, With its range a real game changer.

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by ElroyJetson
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:19 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What is Your Favorite Wide Body Aircraft and Why?
Replies: 44
Views: 2339

Re: What is Your Favorite Wide Body Aircraft and Why?

For comfort in economy.....the 767. For beauty the 787-10 and 747.

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 759
Views: 135495

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

As many have stated, this is EK standard operating procedure. I would not read too much into it. Sir Tim seems to like to throw his weight around, and this is an example of him doing so. I have no doubt EK will order the 777x. Not unless they change their entire business model. It may not be 150 fr...

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:55 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What is Your Favorite Wide Body Aircraft and Why?
Replies: 44
Views: 2339

What is Your Favorite Wide Body Aircraft and Why?

Just a question out of curiosity, not a poll per se, just looking for your thoughts. What is your favorite wide body aircraft? Your answer can be by any criteria you choose. Passenger comfort, IFE, appearance, technology....whatever. I am certain there will be a diverse range of opinions. I would re...

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 759
Views: 135495

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

As many have stated, this is EK standard operating procedure. I would not read too much into it. Sir Tim seems to like to throw his weight around, and this is an example of him doing so. I have no doubt EK will order the 777x. Not unless they change their entire business model. It may not be 150 fra...

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by ElroyJetson
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FG: How are the all-new Airbus (A350) and Boeing (787) widebodies faring?
Replies: 103
Views: 15403

Re: FG: How are the all-new Airbus (A350) and Boeing (787) widebodies faring?

It is odd the A350 sales have slowed so dramatically. I agree it was designed as a 777 replacement. The 787 is more an A330 and 767 replacement. Maybe that's it? Also it is possible the 787 is better optimized for real world payloads. For example, is a 30-35t payload more the norm or is 50-55t more ...

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by ElroyJetson
Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 320
Views: 71370

Re: 777X First Flight Delayed to Year End Due GE9X Issues

I’m pretty sure he is referring to major parts like the HPT that are completely CMC.re What about the rest of his points? No they have made repeated false claims on multiple threads like the GE9X is the first to feature CMCs. Am aware 5 areas in the GE9X is seeing CMCs beings used, but it is not th...

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

ANZ decided to take the 787-10 because it can do almost all 777-200ER's missions at ANZ with a much-much better economics. No they said "787-10 will meet our network needs , including the ability to fly missions similar to our current 777-200 fleet" . Notice how they said meet our network...

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

So with a 6T increase in MTOW the 787-10 should be able to do AKL-IAH in both directions at a flight distance of 6444 nm without a problem. And again the ANZ CEO said the 787-10 should be able to do most any mission of their currently existing 77E fleet. . No on both counts AKL-IAH yes, tailwinds r...

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

Lets look at the Boeing ACAP document for the 787. It has all the answers. The current 787-10 can fly 7000nm with 60,000lb or 280 passengers. The 787-9 can carry 80,000lb 7000nm. Or with the same 60,000lb the 787-9 can fly 8000nm. So the 787-9 can fly the same payload 1000nm further or carry 33% mo...

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by ElroyJetson
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

I don’t really care what your previous job was. You simply cannot get 600nm/75 minutes range out of a 787-10 with its design payload by adding 6 tonnes more fuel. A previous poster provided a table of data that stated using Airbus's formula to compute range the existing 787-10 can do 7000 nm still ...

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by ElroyJetson
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

Can you explain what the formula for the ZFW is supposed to do ? What is the background behind the estimated fuel burn formula you have used , (TOW-ZFW)/1.125 ? The formula works very well, that's the only thing I need. Look into the different tabs. As for the fuel burn, it is a very rough empirica...

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by ElroyJetson
Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

I find it interesting that a year or two ago on a.net some folks were saying the 787-10 could barely fly 4000 nm. How times have changed once the facts come out. And before folks talk about range at MTOW, the reality is very few flights leave at MTOW. I think a safe rule of thumb is 35T payload. Ma...

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by ElroyJetson
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

I find it interesting that a year or two ago on a.net some folks were saying the 787-10 could barely fly 4000 nm. How times have changed once the facts come out. And before folks talk about range at MTOW, the reality is very few flights leave at MTOW. I think a safe rule of thumb is 35T payload. May...

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by ElroyJetson
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

Hi all - member FKA CHRISBA777ER here, decided to join back up. My take on this thread is that we all knew the incremental PIPs would push the 787 and A350 onwards in the lifespan of both programmes just as today's A330 or 777 is a lot more capable than one from 20 years ago. A six tonne bump to th...

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by ElroyJetson
Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

So with this stunning 6t MTOW increase will the landing gear crumble at the gate and everybody will laugh or at V1? As many have said landing weight would be the same. So the max load on the landing gear would be unchanged. There is very little load on the landing gear when stationary at the gate. ...

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by ElroyJetson
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

What A333 233T MTOW did to 77E Pithy and well said. The enhanced A333 effectively killed the 77E in terms of sales. Granted the 77E could carry more payload farther, but that is often needed only in extreme cases. The A359 can carry more payload farther than any 787, but is that capability always n...

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by ElroyJetson
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

NZ didn’t say that, they said the 78J could fly similar missions to the 77E not all missions, IAH seems stretch, I’d be surprised if they are looking at the 78J even with the MTOW increase for anything other than LAX/SFO. I agree with you. As I see it, the 787-10 will do LAX/SFO (as well as PVG/HKG...

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by ElroyJetson
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

Yes, but the advantage of the 787-10 is more passenger than the 787-9 / A350-900. So, do not subtract a feature of the 787-10 all its own to give you an argument that has no place here ... More passenger, generates more revenue! But at the longest ranges it carries less payload and the efficiency g...

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by ElroyJetson
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

Re: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

Do the rumored 787-10 upgrades seriously encroach on the A 359? Is there a place for both frames as a 77E replacement? Yes. The 78X might poach off some orders on the lower end of the 77E's performance/capacity spectrum, but it could do that now , even without an increased range... it's still an ai...

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by ElroyJetson
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?
Replies: 161
Views: 24034

What does the Rumored 6T MTOW Increase for the 787-10 Mean for the A359?

There have been multiple media reports regarding NZ recent commitment to purchase eight 787-10 aircraft from Boeing. NZ is stating that after intensive discussion with Boeing they feel the 787-10 can fly any existing 77E route In their network. The statement suggests Boeing has made upgrades to both...

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by ElroyJetson
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 26573

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

I have no idea, although if the price is right the 789 and 78J would be a solid choice.

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