So neither Airbus nor RR engine order from the UK's biggest airline? They build the buswings too. Yet UA/AA/DL/AS all operate Airbus fleets with Boeing building planes in their home countries... I remember the old American saying, "if it ain't Boeing I ain't going". I believe the old Brit...Jump to post
Since this thread is about Saudia.....
Last Saudia takeoff from Toronto Canada (YYZ) to Jeddah Saudi Arabia (JED): https://youtu.be/IKaXrHgWl7M?t=2m31s
I think it is viewed as a giant status symbol among nerds, especially those with money in the bank, and eco-friendly people too. I'm not so sure how much further it extends. Let me know when the A-listers are embracing it in a very public way.. I would add "pretend" nerds. Anyone with dee...Jump to post
Saudi Arabia is interested in taking Tesla private. From Tesla's blog page: https://www.tesla.com/blog/update-taking-tesla-private?redirect=no Why did I say “funding secured”? Going back almost two years, the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund has approached me multiple times about taking Tesla pri...Jump to post
bagoldex wrote:When you consider that most of his supporters are poor whites with only a high school education(if that)
Can those of you who live in CA keep convincing your fellow Californians of how awesome it is, please? They keep relocating to AZ and are screwing up my state. Also Oregon. "Go back to California" graffiti is not an isolated incident around here any more. :checkmark: I prefer Portland Ore...Jump to post
Trudeau to do list. 1. Cut all bilateral relations with Saudi Arabia, including revoking landing rights and overflight rights to all Saudi airlines. 2. Cut all bilateral relations with countries that support Saudi Arabia, including the U.A.E. Revoke all landing rights and overflight rights of the a...Jump to post
And that's the sort of countries that Trump is more than happy to deal with. Lmao. Call it ridiculous. Michael This isn't new. The US has a long history of varying responses to civil rights concerns in Saudi Arabia. I only looked back 20 years for a couple samples, but it goes on longer: https://ww...Jump to post
Trudeau doesnt have the balls though. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-canada-diplomacy/canada-to-ask-allies-to-help-cool-saudi-dispute-as-kingdom-blocks-its-grain-idUSKBN1KS23G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social&__twitter_impression=true&...Jump to post
Canada to seek UAE andUK help to diffuse the tension. Let's hope things will improve for the sake of aviation. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-canada-diplomacy/canada-to-ask-allies-to-help-cool-saudi-dispute-as-kingdom-blocks-its-grain-idUSKBN1KS23G?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&ut...Jump to post
If trump were in power here in Canada, he might do it. He touched the Saudi´s glowing ball..... he wouldn´t care. Or just like with ZTE he´d care only until he gets 500 million or so. best regards Thomas http://i.imgur.com/wRYWEbo.jpg https://dam-img.rfdcontent.com/camo/ac81e3694e653063cc5774af84d3...Jump to post
Trans States has 50 Mitsubishi MRJ90s on order. I wonder if they'll go through with the order or cancel it. Replublic seems to be commited to an Embraer only fleet. It will likely be cancelled as that aircraft can’t be flown by Republic or any other US regional carrier. They have rights to convert ...Jump to post
Airbus doesn't own any of Bombardier. They only have a controlling interest in the CSeries program, specifically. As part of the deal, Airbus is purchasing a small number of Bombardier stock, but they will probably sell their stake in Bombardier once they take control of the CSeries in seven years:...Jump to post
Perhaps, when/if Airbus purchaes all the CSeries shares, Bombardier can use the money on an E-Jet competitor which will then end up being given away for free to Airbus for a second time. Sounds like a good business plan for Airbus, especially if Boeing purchases Embraer.Jump to post
People will lobby for job creation in Alabama. Trump Administration may find that more important than Boeings wishes. Donald Trump is a Boeing shareholder. If anything, that would be motivation enough. Money is king for Mr.Trump. https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/291964245602607105?...Jump to post
sadiqutp wrote:It seems Boeing was the one forced into a corner, and not the other way around!
The most interesting thing is what Bombardier's endgame in all of this? The CSeries under the Bombardier is history. Are they going to sell off the CRJ/Q400 for pocket change? I guess BBD can go back to its business jet roots but that market also seems smaller than in past decades. Bombardier and Em...Jump to post
Even residents of Boeing's original hometown (Seattle) don't seem too enthused with Boeing these days (commenters from the Seattle Times): https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/airbus-joins-bombardier-in-partnership-on-cseries-jet-that-boeing-has-fought/ Twenty years ago, this entir...Jump to post
Moet folks here are so busy bashing Boeing they forget one thing. - Bombardier's dumping hurts fair competition between airlines . The Canadian governments essentially helped Delta buy jets at a ridiculously low cost thereby giving Delta an unfair cost advantage that will be used against their comp...Jump to post
I'll leave these little tidbits here: https://ca.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idCAKBN1CM0T6-OCABS But sitting in Boeing’s filing cabinets are designs for an all-new jet that would have involved intense collaboration with Embraer, according to two people familiar with the project. A template for ...Jump to post
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN1CM0T6-OCATP In particular, it could drive Boeing closer to Embraer, with which it already cooperates. Embraer’s E2 jet is one of the main potential losers from the CSeries deal. “The world has two top-tier airframers, and two second-tier airframers,” sai...Jump to post
http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2017/10/16/prime-minister-justin-trudeau-speaks-united-states-president-donald-j-trump Oct. 16, 2017: Following on the Prime Minister’s visit to Washington, D.C., last week, the two leaders discussed the recent announcement by Bombardier concerning the future of the C-Se...Jump to post
I live 30 miles from SJK and can hear from here some phones ringing nonstop with some intl calls from Seattle ... Sadly no one is at the office now, it's 12:04am now. Tomorrow's gonna be a busy day for those who turned off their mobiles tonight... Do not bet your cents on that. It sounds like ojjun...Jump to post
EMBSPBR wrote:True, true again, true once more ...
People are not reading between the lines of this agreement ...
CX747 wrote:Not quite sure how Boeing got shafted. The Canadians got shafted as BBD is dead. .
Im not sure why everyone here thinks that Airbus won something? This is not a profitable program , they sold aircraft that they will give away at a loss. Airbus has a lot of work to do to turn this product line around. Boeing isnt losing anything, the only people who care who sells more units are y...Jump to post
" At the end of the day, this is going to be an Airbus program ," said Rainer Ohler, vice president of communications for Airbus Group in an interview. "It's going to be a threesome, we take the majority now and over time we take 100% of the program ," Ohler said. BBD's short dab...Jump to post
Boeing's response: " This looks like a questionable deal between two heavily state-subsidized competitors to skirt the recent findings of the U.S. government . Our position remains that everyone should play by the same rules for free and fair trade to work," a Boeing spokesman said in a st...Jump to post
Boy you Canadians sure showed us in the US. You sold the company to Europeans who will make C Series in the US. Real Trudeau definition of winning you got there. I think ill stick to Trumps definition. I want to thank Quebec government for subsidizing Alabama job and Taxs. It was a simple choice ev...Jump to post
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/16/news/companies/boeing-embraer-collaboration/index.html "Will Airbus and Bombardier's partnership push Boeing closer to Brazil?" In 2016, Embraer and Boeing tested a slate of new advanced technologies on an Embraer test aircraft. The arrangement was a rare co...Jump to post
So much for wanting a third competitor to the A/B duopoly. This thread hilariously exposes that the real point of rooting for Bombardier wasn't for the existence of another manufacturer. This is sad news for the CSeries and for manufacturer variety in general. It's a shame to see Bombardier effecti...Jump to post
A lot of Americans on social media have been screaming "antitrust" in the comment sections of this CSeries deal. Can anyone with a legal background see possible legal issues for BBD/Airbus?Jump to post
Same. I wonder if Boeing is on the phone with Embraer and Mitsubishi now. Boeing could be, but Embraer/Mitsubishi don't have anything that can compete with a CS300/CS500 unless they come up with something all new. That leaves plenty of time for BBD/Airbus to counter. Embraer/Mitsubishi could outcom...Jump to post
downdata wrote:Boeing is the biggest loser but canadian aerospace industry didnt really win either.
Well thought out-this has clearly been in the works for awhile. I like the idea of Canadian industry partnering up with more reliable trading partners in Europe going forward. Hopefully, it sets a good precedent for the future, especially with Canada's new EU free trade agreement. POTUS can have hi...Jump to post
Looks like the Canadian government might want to show Airbus some gratitude for saving Canadian jobs by purchasing some Eurofighter Typhoons (Airbus joint venture).Jump to post
That would not be the first time; BBD Transport already sold them High Speed Trains technology/licences. Do you know who are now the world's most powerful train builders? Not anymore, the Alstrom/Siemens merger will be larger than Bombardier Transportation. I also believe that China's CRCC is now b...Jump to post