DL still has an advantage over B6 at BOS with DL having nonstop service out of BOS to some domestic destinations not currently served by B6 such as CVG, CMH, IND, MCI, MKE, and ORF and with DL offering 1-stop connecting service from BOS through other DL hubs to other destinations that are not serve...Jump to post
Great topic. For me it was the 70's through the late 80's. I grew up an airline brat, Mom worked for Ozark reservations. She started in 1967, when I was 2 y/o. I don't remember much flying until around 1972 or so, our first trip to Europe was around that time. In those days flying was still for the ...Jump to post
According to WN route maps from 1996 and 1998 (which can be found at https://www.flickr.com/photos/erussell1984/29263094912 and https://www.flickr.com/photos/erussell1984/32253925493 ), WN served ABQ, BWI, BHM, MDW, CLE, CMH, DTW, HOU, IND, MCI, LIT, SDF, OKC, OMA, MCO, PHX, SLC, TPA, and TUL nonst...Jump to post
Reasons why I had mentioned the possibility of WN returning to IAH at some point, even if WN re-entering IAH is unlikely to happen anytime soon, include (a) IAH being one of the original destinations served by WN, even though WN had served HOU since November 14, 1971, (b) IAH and HOU being in oppos...Jump to post
I agree that WN is unlikely to return to IAH, even if WN can make service out of both IAH and HOU work, due to (a) WN having expanded both domestically and internationally out of HOU in the last 15 years and (b) HOU being closer than IAH is to many of the major business and tourist destinations in ...Jump to post
The original Overseas Terminal was made from the former Pennsylvania Air National Guard hangars, that were originally the home of the 53rd Fighter Wing, 111th Bomber Group and the 103rd Bomber Group. In the early years, they had a large presence at PHL. These hangars housed B-26 Invaders, P-51 Must...Jump to post
There are still some more domestic adds that could be made by WN out of BNA such as the return of BNA-GSP/BDL/PVD/PBI nonstop service, the return of daily nonstop service to SEA from BNA, and the addition of BNA-ALB/ABQ/GRR/IND/PDX/RIC/SLC nonstop service. Your constant speculation can get tiresome...Jump to post
While HOU is closer to Downtown Houston, Uptown Houston, the Texas Medical Center, the Kemah Boardwalk, NASA, and Galveston than IAH is, WN re-entering IAH might be a possibility with (a) IAH and HOU being located approximately 29 miles from each other on opposite sides of the city of Houston, (b) ...Jump to post
There are images of the OAT in Part 2. I have many more, including an aerial, but had to choose!
Thanks, reasonable deal! So the loser would be Norway....
While I agree that WN merging or taking over AA would be a disaster, I agree that there are a few more nonstop domestic routes that could be added by WN out of DAL such as DAL-BUF, DAL-CVG, and DAL-BDL. There are also some nonstop routes that could be re-added by WN out of DAL such as DAL-BOS, DAL-...Jump to post
Anyone have a link to 1980s timetables for Pan Am? Departed flights seems to have only the post-2000 reincarnation of Pan Am. I'd love to get refamiliarized with their TATL schedule from JFK from the 1986-1989 period. Departed Flights has 4 for the 80's: 80/82/85/87 http://www.departedflights.com/t...Jump to post
Pan Am also wasn’t in particularly great terms with many airlines. Their vicious defense of their international routes and (usually successful) attempts to block international expansion of other US airlines generated a lot of enemies who were all too happy to see Pan Am get taken down a peg. Intere...Jump to post
EA was killed off by one man—Franco Lorenzo. Charles Bryan would like a word about that, both were to egotistical to back down. Yes, Bryan was the last true militant union leader in the airline industry. I'm a pro-union guy but Bryan didn't really see the bigger picture IMHO. But Lorenzo was to bla...Jump to post
I know I post a lot about this, but what the hell is AA doing in NY (forget JFK at this point let’s look at the whole region) and where do they go from here as we march towards recovery? They are barely covering hubs at this point. My guess is AA is realizing they are going to end up much like WN i...Jump to post
Wondering if the construction visible in the background are hangars or terminals; hard to get a sense of the direction the photographer is looking.
This issue comes up a lot on this forum. I am going to attempt to address the myriad of reasons why no secondary airport has been built or will be built for the foreseeable future. It's important to understand that not a single secondary airport has been built since deregulation. Well, BLV's second...Jump to post
Another Rumor LGB crew base being relocated to LAX. LGB being kept at 5 daily flights in November. 1 seasonal daily LGB-BOS red eye. Off season 1 Saturday only Red eye. 3 daily LGB-SLC 1 daily LGB-JFK red eye. Flyguy. I could see 3 JFK, 1 BOS, 1 FLL...if the station stays open @ 5 daily. Or 5 LAS w...Jump to post
ORD T2 - Circa 1973-1975 with B747/DC10 at the low E/F Gates. A few folks on the T2 Observation Deck. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49952069387_1a76754691_c.jpg Source: Postcard-Private Collection-Plastichrome P319676 Stupid little fun fact: Ozark Airlines used to operated nearly 50 flights a...Jump to post
Maybe it could have been called TransContinental and World Airlines? Or go back to the 30's: Transcontinental and Western Air. Same difference really. :D Actually at the time I could see the CO/TW merger being a plus for both carriers. When AA bought TWA I still felt that CO would have been the bet...Jump to post
Did B6 acquire more gates at LAX? I’m just trying to figure out how B6 grows or even replaces what they had at LGB with LAX. Right now WN can’t even get access to more real estate at LAX until T1E is completed in the next few years. I’m just not sure what B6’s game plan is for LAX going forward. I ...Jump to post
I never knew of this plan, but I fiddled around with drawing an expansion of the TWA facilities at JFK. Mine ended up being a T6 linear concourse connecting to a redone Flight Wing One and Two, with an angled Flight Wing Two heading off to the taxiways. This plan was pretty cool, and not what I envi...Jump to post
LAX for LGB is a great trade off for B6. They'd be fools to stay there while opportunities open at premier airports.
New top 10 as compared to Dec 2019 in order of flights https://www.swamedia.com/pages/corporate-fact-sheet#top10 1 DEN 2 MDW 3 PHX 4 BWI 5 DAL 6 LAS 7 HOU 8 BNA 9 ATL 10 STL OAK, MCO & SAN fell out of the top 10 while BNA, ATL & STL moved in. Looks like this mess is turning WN into a more &...Jump to post
This is definitely a new one. LAX is going to lose passengers to LGB. We will find out soon enough what demand out of LGB looks like when the overall national demand is down 25 to 30%.
They’ll choose Long Beach for the same reasons as before, low fares and convenience. And that wasn’t enough for JetBlue to be healthy. B6 had a few Bay Area flights, some transcons and LAS/SLC. WN is plugging LGB into a good chunk of their national network. I ain't saying their gonna knock it out o...Jump to post
Right, adding flights to LGB and taking away flights from LAX is the correct move. Hilarious stuff going on here. LGB is far and away the lowest yielding station for WN in LA Basin. Laugh if you must but this move alone opens up far more of the US market to LGB than B6 could ever hope to offer. And...Jump to post
Beginning Nov. 1, Southwest will offer round-trip, nonstop flights between Long Beach and Phoenix three times a day, and between Long Beach and Austin once a day, the airline said in a statement. https://www.presstelegram.com/2020/05/28/southwest-announces-new-nonstop-daily-service-from-long-beach-...Jump to post
The million dollar question is that the customer will agree to have the ERJs replaced by ATRs and still fly with them. After 20+ years getting used to fly on RJs I believe the regional companies will have a lot of trouble convincing the customers to take the "downgrade" route (and I'm say...Jump to post
Of course the ATR 72 stands a chance. The other planes aren't scope compliant so it's either a turboprop or mainline. That's the base case. Yep, Back to the future on props. The legacies pushed the 50 seat RJ's WAY beyond their intended purpose and now they either lose feed or go back to props, at ...Jump to post
I wonder if there will be a throwback to the old automat type eateries, where you choose hot food from an enclosed case, punch in what you want, swipe your card and out it comes. More grab-and-go options for sure, sit down eateries may be hard pressed for a while.Jump to post
Can anyone explain to me why leisure demand allegedly is picking up while the CDC still has a Level 4 Travel Ban on their website??
WN is the original LCC. They invented it. We wouldn't even have the concept of an LCC without WN.
Whoa doggie those Ts are expensive. Maybe you don't have a financial connection to the site yet, but . . . they ought to give you commissions. And yes, I also ordered one. In other news I had the strangest dream last night of hopping a war weary 747 from St. Louis to Chicago on a whim with a deceas...Jump to post