Re: Airliners with nicknames

Convair 440 was known as the "Metropolitan" in Sweden, don't know if it was a Convair marketing name that stuck or where else it came from. The "Metropolitan" name became the common name for it, it was decades later I learned it was the 440.

Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2021

Philippine747 wrote:

International
BKK-MNL stops in TAG from 17-24 November

Re: Boeing B747 - Whose have you flown?

There is another thread for this, last post only two weeks ago https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1454913, which I think started this "Aeroplane XYZ whose have you flown".

Just saying.

Re: Your dream airline fleet

A couple of Boeing 747 with original 2-4-3 seating and a couple of L-1011:s. Flying transatlantic with superior service and with deviations to interesting sights at a ticket price triple the normal economy fare - the customer base would be aviation enthusiasts.

Re: Airbus Has No Whitetail Aircraft Left

Take care to not confuse and conflate "annoying to AvGeeks" with "accurate"... ...because while enthusiasts often know that many orders didn't have a chance of ever seeing the light of day (e.g. Virgin's A380s, Kingfisher's nearly everything, etc), the fact that they were still ...

Re: How far do you think flight deck automation will go?

Making fully automated aeroplanes is easier than self driving cars. The problem isn't letting a computer fly the plane when everything works as expected, it is what will happen when there are problems. If you would have a pilotless aeroplane and a "remote pilot" taking over when there are ...

Re: AA B38M Birdstrike at SVD

Boeing guidance is to not RTO above 80 knots for a bird strike unless anomalous engine behavior occurs. You don’t RTO at close to V1 just because you hit a bird. That’s a risk of a catastrophic runway excursion. I don’t know enough about this incident yet to comment on whether the captain made the ...

Re: United orders supersonic planes from Boom (was: Big United Announcement Coming Up?)

Generally you can say, double speed means 4 x fuel consumption. v (speed) comes as v². So double speed needs four time the power and the fuel, four times the speed needs 16 times the power and the fuel. This is simple general physics. When it comes to speeds around the "sound barrier" thi...

Re: Tri-wing concept claims to cut fuel consumption by 70%

One thing no one commented on - they wanted to abandon the barrels and build a monocoque fuselage. I can see how the lack of joints will save weight, but I would also assume the production cost for this will be high. For the triple wing pairs, won't the airflow over one wing disturb the flow over th...

Re: Planned range for the 777-9?

Per Boeing (https://www.boeing.com/commercial/777x/#/technical-specs) the 777-9 design range is 7,285 nmi (13,500 km) with 426 pax (~43t). And the 777-9 doesn't seems to be a good ULH plane. Forgive an ignorant person, but I am really curious what 7285 nmi design range means. When the plane has flo...

Re: Are flights under 100 miles profitable?

I believe Amsterdam - Brussels is about 100 miles and there are flights as well as good train connections and good roads. I don't know what kind of passengers they get, but I would dare a guess it is mainly for connecting traffic. Personally if I went to Brussels via Amsterdam, I would opt for the t...

Re: Planned range for the 777-9?

Per Boeing (https://www.boeing.com/commercial/777x/#/technical-specs) the 777-9 design range is 7,285 nmi (13,500 km) with 426 pax (~43t). And the 777-9 doesn't seems to be a good ULH plane. Forgive an ignorant person, but I am really curious what 7285 nmi design range means. When the plane has flo...

Re: why no metric system in aviation?

Okay, if your traveling at 35m/s and the next gas station is 75 km down the road, how long will it take to drive there? Seems far easier using 108 km/hr, so about 45 minutes. The only time m/s works for speed is wind velocity—double it to get knots and at small magnitudes like wind, it’s accurate e...

Re: Should United order the 777-9 and A350ULR?

UA857 wrote:

Can the standard A359 fly ORD-DEL/BOM?

Re: why no metric system in aviation?

I believe Russia and China uses metres for altitudes (correct me if I am wrong). So it is partially implemented... We children of the SI shouldn't point fingers too much. In Sweden, engine power of cars are still in horsepower (kilowatts mentioned too, but it is the horsepower that counts - it's a b...

Re: TWA 800 wreckage to be destroyed before 25th anniversary

It won't be long before all conspiracy theorists out there, still believing this plane was shot down by a missile, will say the dismantling of the plane will be a cover-up... sigh. But I hope I am wrong.

Re: Feeling nostalgic about 747s. Who’s have you flown?

All in all eight take-offs (and landings) with two airlines, Thai Airways and Cathay Pacific. Two memories stand out - boarding via stairs at Don Muang (on the ground next to the plane you suddenly realize the SIZE of the thing) and a flight HKG-MNL with so few passengers that a Fokker F70 would hav...

Re: Cdg europes busiest airport

Thanks for clarifying the OP's metric, and for offering an alternative, but I've never understood the fascination with aircraft movements. Movements can reflect small avg gauge, or caps on runway/taxiway capacity, or limited hours, as much as demand. Movements don't reflect revenue because they ign...

Re: Your first piston-powered aircraft flight

When I was a small kid domestic flights in Sweden were on piston aircraft. The first airliner flight I remember was in 1970 from BMA to UME on a Linjeflyg CV440. Picture taken 1965 by Lars Söderström I flew on these a couple of times and not very much compares to a take-off in a piston airliner... a...

Re: EasyJet Electric Aircraft: Engine Test by 2023, Aircraft in Service 2030

JonesNL wrote:

We will probably never have an 737 sized battery powered vehicle....

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Dominic Gates quotes a new WSJ article: " Mr. Teal, who as the MAX’s chief engineer personally signed off on MCAS ... told investigators he approved MCAS without knowing that a malfunction of a single sensor could trigger the system to repeatedly push down a plane’s nose and possibly lead to a...

Re: Is it worth it to pay more for 9-abreast Y on a 777?

The change from 9 to 10 abreast made the 777 fall from my favourite long haul plane to a plane I avoid. Didn't experience neither the 787 nor the 380 yet, so my long haul experiences are limited to 747, 777, 330/340 and 350. The biggest point isn't if your butt gets 17 or 18 inches of seat width, th...

Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

So...they were planning to tunnel across Rwy 13/31 from the proposed Terminal 5 to emerge beneath the existing T3 on the opposite side ? That's a rather delicate operation given the high water table in the area. In any case it seems more viable than a bridge over the runway :duck: Jokes aside, a pe...

Re: COVID-19 News and Reference Thread

Starting Monday, SAS will use one single aircraft for domestic services in Sweden and fly ARN to VBY, UME, LLA and KRN only. Source, in Swedish, possibly behind paywall ... Det är Arlanda till Umeå, Kiruna, Luleå och Visby som fortsätter medan all annan inrikestrafik upphör. Syftet med att fortsätta...

Re: Will the world of airlines ever be the same

This will be a lot less of a shock than people think. There’ll be a few airlines that fall by the wayside but ultimately it’ll get up and running again, it always does. Don’t misjudge the speed of the recovery, after 9/11 people were physically scared stiff to get on an aircraft after seeing four a...

Re: Possible COVID-19 infection at Boeing Everett plant.

Remember when Swine Flu was supposed to decimate the world? From April 2009 to Feb 2010, 55 million Americans got it, 250,000 were hospitalized and over 10,000 died. We did not cancel March Madness, comic con, music festivals, drop our Disney plans, hole ourselves up in the house , so on and so for...

Re: European Widebodies 2020

Iberia 3314 MAD-ARN had an A346 on February 3 and February 10. Don't know if it's a regular Monday thing. Otherwise it's an A320.

Re: EasyJet Electric Aircraft: Engine Test by 2023, Aircraft in Service 2030

what's up with electric planes and v-tails? AFAIK, one reason to put in on electric planes (or any plane) is to reduce drag and thus get a little more range. But I am not an aerospace engineer... and the cynic in me can't help to think that the main purpose to have a V tail aircraft in these kind o...

Re: What former carriers have you flown?

A few Swedish domestic carriers are on my list. Picture links to aircraft types I have flown with the livery they had when I flew them. The first carrier I have flown some 50 times and on three aircraft types. All flights with these four operators were 30 to 50 years ago.... :old: Linjeflyg (LF) Syd...

Re: St Elmos fire

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Re: Crash fatalities fell more than 50% in 2019

The number of crashes are so low, the industry is very safe, that one crash makes all the difference. And given the rise in number of passengers and airplane movement, staying the same is quite an achievement in it self. Yes. ET 302 alone was 157 deaths, leaving 100 for everything else. Probably we...

Re: Why there are no morning flights from US West Coast to Europe?

amax1977 wrote:

A flight that could leave LAX at 11:00 AM would arrive LHR next morning at 6:00 AM ...

Re: Can Boeing make a great come back in 2020?

The 737 is Boeing's bread and butter and they have thousands of them on their order books. Of course the priority number one is to get it flying again, they must do it and they will do it. Scrapping the 737 is no option, it's like suggesting ripping out the heart of the body. They will make a come b...

Re: How in sync are city sizes to airport sizes in Europe?

The obvious answer is that there is only a partial synch between city size and airport size. Consider the following three factors: a) Catchment area - how many people served by the airport is much more important than size of the city b) Competing airports nearby or in the same city c) Connecting tra...

Re: Turbulence and injuries

I've often wondered if "some" of the injuries sustained by turbulence if not faked, greatly exaggerated for lawsuits or some sort of money making scheme. Obviously with the unexpected turbulence with the seat belt sign off people in the lav or in the isles, FA's up and about the cabin and...

Re: Denied Boarding - a Man and His Possum

The pax called the airline and told them it was a possum. The airline okayed it. That's the issue. The pax called, got it cleared, flew the first leg, then was denied on the way back. So, how was the crew supposed to know the opossum was okayed? Did he tell the airline what flight he would be on an...

Re: Pictures surfacing of 777X Sept Test Failure

Its not the percentage which as you say is small its that the failure occurred at an unexpected point in the structure, unlike the A380 wing btw which was predicted to fail where it failed. Boeing were not anticipating a rupture that destroyed the structure, they need to go back and understand why ...

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Biggest failure in commercial aviation? That's an easy question to answer. It's the 737 MAX. If the MAX does not become ungrounded and the new planes waiting to be delivered will be scrapped - yes. But exactly how likely is that? More likely is that the MAX will start flying again, after some time ...

Re: Have you landed at the alphabet?

I tend to fly to the same airports so my list is not growing.. 14 letters covered. Even less impressive considering the first entries are 50 years ago. However, my list begs a definition - it is the airports' codes at the time of the landing. This means I have not landed at DMK even if I have landed...

Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

okobjorn wrote:

minilinde wrote:

Date Flight Dep Arr STD STA
2019-12-12 SK9285 BLL-CPH 18:25-18:15

That is either one very fast or very slow A350

Re: Dubai Air Show 2019: Boeing Orders, announcements and discussion thread

No one suggests the 789 was chosen over 339 to avoid the RR engine?

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

flipdewaf wrote:

[ ran some numbers through my model/simulation ...

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

I assume the total fuel consumption per passenger will be bigger than with a stopover, there is only one take off instead of two but on the other hand the fuel tanks must be filled to the brim (plus maybe an extra canister in the cockpit :-) ) and there is a penalty for carrying all that fuel. Prov...

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

Given the fundamental economics of project sunrise routes, if the premium demand is not enough to profitably fill 100++ premium seats up front consistently (A380 has 113/144, 787 has 70) the routes just won't make money because Y isn't gonna garner the gigantic premiums necessary to compete against...

Re: Ukranian plane on fire in Sharm El Sheikh

TWA772LR wrote:

Great job by the ground crew!

Why weren't the slides popped?

Re: What routes would you like to see?

What would benefit me the most: The Philippines paving the runway in Hilongos and extending it by about 5 to 6,000' and AA starting LAX to Hilongos. If that doesn't happen: LAX to Tacloban City (TAC / RPVA) on AA. LAX to Panglao (TAG / RPSP) on AA. Of these routes, which are viable? None. Haha, I d...

Re: Sun Class Airlines - new name for Thomas Cook Scandinavia

Sun Class Airlines is a pretty good name for their charter airline product. Good name, but should have been Sun Trip :lol: I guess no one outside of Scandinavia will understand that one. It's from a 1980 Swedish movie which is a parody of charter travel, with a money smuggling plot as a back bone. ...

Re: Successful first landing by passenger aircraft using Remote Towers

I think Airservices Australia and Saab have been doing this since 2011 Saab Digital Air Traffic Solutions have three (two?) airports in Sweden with remote towers. Five more are to get the system in the coming three years where the biggest (MMX) has over two million passengers yearly. I think it wil...

Re: 737NG Pickle fork issue

I wld. assume so - don't know - hard to find details > all 58 "active" aircrafts will be inspected immediately acc. to SAS -( 31 already done) 3x600´s active 26x700´s active 29x800´s active I got the impression from one article I read (Aftonbladet, credibility dubious) that the planes wit...

Re: Unticketed Pax Clears TSA, Boards DL Flight

Anyway, I am curious to see how she got thru secure. Hopefully we find out. Hopefully, but I doubt it. Releasing that information gives other wannabe's a blueprint to try the same thing. It should be like a Windows security fix - make the fix, then you can tell everyone what was the problem. In oth...