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by moyangmm
Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana
Replies: 132
Views: 17625

Re: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana

Keep A321 and then take the A321neo both of them order. Keep A350-900, A350-1000, B787-9 and B787-10 in their network. Air Seoul operated A321, Jin Air operated B737-800 and B777-200ER which could be replaced with B787-9. Stored or Sell off all their A330, A380, B737, B747 and B777. A330 and B777 c...

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by moyangmm
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana
Replies: 132
Views: 17625

Re: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana

It's unlikely for the merged airline to keep such a diversified wide-body fleets: A330, B777, B787, A350, A380. Fleet simplification is expected soon: pmOZ: A35K - order cancelled, no need for more WB due to COVID A359 - keep or sold, all-787 fleet is more prefereable A380 - retire immediately B744 ...

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by moyangmm
Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JAL to shrink fleet, accelerate ZIP growth
Replies: 35
Views: 6895

Re: JAL to shrink fleet, accelerate ZIP growth

Does JAL's shrinking put its A350-1000 order in jeopardy?

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by moyangmm
Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1635
Views: 208036

Re: AA Retires All Airbus A330-200s

It's great to see AA move to a modern all Boeing fleet!

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by moyangmm
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Opinions on the 779 & A35K in the long-term future
Replies: 66
Views: 4292

Re: Opinions on the 779 & A35K in the long-term future

77X will be fine. Order book is still strong.

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by moyangmm
Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ to launch SIN-JFK 3x weekly
Replies: 93
Views: 14889

Re: SQ to launch SIN-JFK 3x weekly

At this range there isn't much payload left even in ULR, let alone regular A359. I guess the reason SQ to switch to regular 359 as oppose to ULR is that they want the forward cargo compartment for bulky but lightweight cargos. I wonder how much the actual payload be. Can it make 5000kg? The cargo ne...

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by moyangmm
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A350-1000 versus B777-300ER
Replies: 28
Views: 4470

Re: A350-1000 versus B777-300ER

Sokes wrote:
What were typical B777-300ER missions just before Covid19 hit?


Pretty much dominates all trunk routes from 8 hrs - 15 hrs. For example, HKG-JFK.

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by moyangmm
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:43 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A350-1000 versus B777-300ER
Replies: 28
Views: 4470

Re: A350-1000 versus B777-300ER

Qatar Airways group chief executive Akbar Al Baker originally hinted the increase to 319t during the 2018 show and stated the upgrade would make the aircraft “a very huge competitor for the [Boeing 777] -300ER”. Source: https://samchui.com/2019/06/15/airbus-a350-1000-receives-range-boost Interestin...

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by moyangmm
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330 reached its 1500th delivery
Replies: 74
Views: 10840

Re: Airbus A330 reached its 1500th delivery

Just out of curiousty how far can an A330-300HGW with a MTOW of 240 tonnes fly with 276 seats? https://www.delta.com/us/en/aircraft/airbus/a330-300 According to Delta, a 293-seat, 242t MTOW A333 has a range of 6330 mi (5500 nmi). Delta also have 230/233t PW 333's which are bang on 5500nm, and the 2...

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by moyangmm
Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330 reached its 1500th delivery
Replies: 74
Views: 10840

Re: Airbus A330 reached its 1500th delivery

https://www.delta.com/us/en/aircraft/airbus/a330-300

According to Delta, a 293-seat, 242t MTOW A333 has a range of 6330 mi (5500 nmi).
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AB330 wrote:
Just out of curiousty how far can an A330-300HGW with a MTOW of 240 tonnes fly with 276 seats?


https://www.delta.com/us/en/aircraft/airbus/a330-300

According to Delta, a 293-seat, 242t MTOW A333 has a range of 6330 mi (5500 nmi).

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by moyangmm
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Future Prospects (787-9LR, 787-10ER, 787 New Engine)
Replies: 48
Views: 7916

Re: 787 Future Prospects (787-9LR, 787-10ER, 787 New Engine)

Who needs more range out of a 789? Well united for one. Would stop them having to block seats SFO-SIN... Please stop spreading misinformation. As FriscoHeavy said above, UA carries full load plus decent amount of cargo consistently on SFO-SIN. Let's check how many passengers a bigger, heavier, alle...

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by moyangmm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Future Prospects (787-9LR, 787-10ER, 787 New Engine)
Replies: 48
Views: 7916

Re: 787 Future Prospects (787-9LR, 787-10ER, 787 New Engine)

A 280t 359 or a 316t A35K can do quite a few of those. Also the extreme field performance you need for ADD-West Coast USA would be insane. You might do it with a 97k 280t 359. 280t 359 cannot do JNB-ATL, which is why DL adds CPT stop. Not sure if 787-9 can do this. I guess we will never know since ...

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by moyangmm
Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Future Prospects (787-9LR, 787-10ER, 787 New Engine)
Replies: 48
Views: 7916

Re: 787 Future Prospects (787-9LR, 787-10ER, 787 New Engine)

Who needs more range out of current 787-9? 787-9 is already the king of ULH. Think of SIN-SFO, SIN-LAX, PER-LHR. Nothing beats 787-9's efficiency and range.

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by moyangmm
Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:57 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 787-9 gets range boost.
Replies: 49
Views: 7416

Re: Boeing 787-9 gets range boost.

This one does mention it: https://crankyflier.com/2020/09/10/uniteds-plan-for-2021-leisure-and-modified-787s-for-ultra-long-haul/ In the article it says Specifically, it has increased engine thrust and altered the fuel management system to squeeze more range out of the fleet. (Both of these are sof...

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by moyangmm
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:09 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 787-9 gets range boost.
Replies: 49
Views: 7416

Re: Boeing 787-9 gets range boost.

When i look at that link...it has nothing in it regarding a thrust bump or a range increase. This one does mention it: https://crankyflier.com/2020/09/10/uniteds-plan-for-2021-leisure-and-modified-787s-for-ultra-long-haul/ In the article it says Specifically, it has increased engine thrust and alte...

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by moyangmm
Fri May 22, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retires 777 fleet
Replies: 808
Views: 136483

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

The 6321 nmi figure was given by Delta. I don't think they have any reason to lie. Actually I've had a look and it's almost exactly 5500nm. Could it be range at MTOW? But then, just to keep apples to apples, we need to say the truth. 787-9 range is barely 6000smi. And 787-10 is at 4800smi. Sounds r...

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by moyangmm
Thu May 21, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retires 777 fleet
Replies: 808
Views: 136483

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

If we were to believe DL's figures is accurate for A359 range with full passenger + bag load, then the logical conclusion would be that DL will take a payload penalty (i.e. block seats) on all four routes mentioned. You are free to believe whatever you wish, just don't expect everybody else to subm...

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by moyangmm
Thu May 21, 2020 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retires 777 fleet
Replies: 808
Views: 136483

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Delta lists A350-900's range as 7275 mi (6321 nmi) https://www.delta.com/us/en/aircraft/airbus/a350 We also know they have 275t MTOW variant currently. It doesn't seem to be able to cover these flights previously served by 77L: Atlanta – Johannesburg: 8,439 miles Atlanta – Shanghai: 7,659 miles Los...

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by moyangmm
Thu May 21, 2020 12:09 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?
Replies: 98
Views: 10894

Re: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?

If A359 carries more than 77L, why would DL need to add a fuel stop at CPT when returning to ATL from JNB, using A359 but not 77L? https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-cape-town-johannesburg-south-africa-airbus-a350/ No idea, maybe they don’t have the demand to fill the extra capacity of A350 out JN...

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by moyangmm
Wed May 20, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?
Replies: 98
Views: 10894

Re: Can the A359 Do JNB-ATL for DL With Meaningful Cargo?

I did a flight plan for today, the 77L would carry 32 tonnes of payload, and burn 126 tonnes of fuel for the sector. The A359 would carry 43 tonnes of payload, and burn 102 tonnes of fuel. Neither aircraft could carry their maximum payload, both could carry full passenger, baggage, and some cargo. ...

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by moyangmm
Wed May 20, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retires 777 fleet
Replies: 808
Views: 136483

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Delta lists A350-900's range as 7275 mi (6321 nmi) https://www.delta.com/us/en/aircraft/airbus/a350 We also know they have 275t MTOW variant currently. It doesn't seem to be able to cover these flights previously served by 77L: Atlanta – Johannesburg: 8,439 miles Atlanta – Shanghai: 7,659 miles Los ...

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by moyangmm
Mon May 04, 2020 11:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4461
Views: 679385

Re: United orders 7 787-10s

I expect 777-200 retirement to be accelerated intensely. Many 777-200ER's configured for long-haul may never come back at all. The 777A's may be parked and operated only when there is demand. The 773's may be sold/negotiated return. United's 773 are new and acquired as "end of the line" p...

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by moyangmm
Mon May 04, 2020 10:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4461
Views: 679385

Re: United exercises options for 7 787-10s

Pretty smart move by UA. UA needs to start replacing their 772/77E fleet soon. 781 is proven to work extremely well with UA's network and will definitely be the backbone of future UA wide-body fleet. I am sure UA got a good deal for this.

Also, another huge win for Boeing!

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by moyangmm
Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:41 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Potential for an 787-10ER ?
Replies: 66
Views: 9245

Re: Potential for an 787-10ER ?

Really if you're going to fly that far then the 78X really doesn't sense at all. If you're going to lower the density, just use the 789. The benefit of 781 is its larger cabin area which can accommodate a lot of F and J seats. By your logic why ANA configures its most premium-heavy 77W with only 21...

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by moyangmm
Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:04 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Potential for an 787-10ER ?
Replies: 66
Views: 9245

Re: Potential for an 787-10ER ?

The key word is ‘similar’ which is not the same as. UA use the 781 SFO-AKL in NW, NZ will likely do the same from LAX/SFO, YVR at a push but IAH, ORD, EWR is 789 territory. IAH/ORD/EWR is tad out-of-range for the current 781, but not by far. With a slightly less dense configuration (around 300 seat...

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by moyangmm
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Potential for an 787-10ER ?
Replies: 66
Views: 9245

Re: Potential for an 787-10ER ?

They ordered some bog standard 787-10s, albeit with GE rather than RR engines. The confusion came when some om this forum interpreted the CEOs statement that it would replace the 777-200ER and could do similar flights, as if the 787-10 was an ULR capable aircraft that would be doing the New York fl...

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by moyangmm
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 27152

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

It would seem that a 4-class 787-10 would make more sense than an A350-1000 to replace its 777-9X. Note that a 4-class 787-10 would fly FURTHER than a 3-class 787-10 This is why, they will change (maybe, is not official) the 777-X to the 787-10 and nowhere does it mention the A350-1000 If this happ...

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by moyangmm
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85918

Re: Sources: United ordering 50 A321 XLR

PHLspecial wrote:
Wow delaying the A350 until 2027. Wonder if the A350 neo will come out at that time. I guess the 77E is still young?


It doesn't matter whether neo will come out or not. Between now and 2027, United will keep buying more 787. A350 is just useless for UA.

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by moyangmm
Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 258687

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

Gas guzzling 777-200LR would be a public relations disaster for QF when the word gets out that they are flying one of the most uneconomical/environmentally disastrous planes out there on a route that is already dubious in todays world even with the latest technology. while not as efficient as 787, ...

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by moyangmm
Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 258687

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

VV wrote:
moa999 wrote:
What's changed so that the 200LR can now make this flight distance?


I guess nothing except low, but good enough payload.


and ACTs, which no current 77L operators has opted for.

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by moyangmm
Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 258687

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

Boeing in head for PS order ? https://www.airlineratings.com/news/will-qantas-take-777-200lrs-interim-sunrise-aircraft/ Interesting read. I must say it is a creative solution. 778 is worth waiting for, even that means taking 777-200LR as interim. 778 is much more capable. In fact, 778 is the only v...

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by moyangmm
Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was B737-900ER a disappointment?
Replies: 53
Views: 16729

Re: Was B737-900ER a disappointment?

No, it was a huge success, especially for US transcon. A321-200 often requires a fuel stop flying west in the winter. 737-900ER can easily do that nonstop. Also, 737-900ER burns less than A321.

In general, 737-900ER is just a superior plane.

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by moyangmm
Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Udvar-Hazy: Boeing planning a B737 MAX 9ER
Replies: 174
Views: 34374

Re: Udvar-Hazy: Boeing planning a B737 MAX 9ER

You didn't provide any evidence that a321neo is better. In fact, MAX has similar range but lower trip cost than neo family. 737-9 is very capable of doing US transcon, whereas a321 requires extra fuel tanks to do that, which increase its dead weight. You do realise the 737-9 has an extra tank insta...

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by moyangmm
Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Udvar-Hazy: Boeing planning a B737 MAX 9ER
Replies: 174
Views: 34374

Re: Udvar-Hazy: Boeing planning a B737 MAX 9ER

That would be an A321/LR killer, similar range, but significantly more efficient. It wouldn't be as capable as XLR though. Still, many would be interested because of its superior fuel burn. You didn't provide any evidence that a321neo is better. In fact, MAX has similar range but lower trip cost th...

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by moyangmm
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Udvar-Hazy: Boeing planning a B737 MAX 9ER
Replies: 174
Views: 34374

Re: Udvar-Hazy: Boeing planning a B737 MAX 9ER

That would be an A321/LR killer, similar range, but significantly more efficient. It wouldn't be as capable as XLR though. Still, many would be interested because of its superior fuel burn.

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by moyangmm
Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread
Replies: 124
Views: 27679

Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Not sure where that announcement thread went, but the airport is officially open! Now... this website has an interactive diagram for the airport and a route map.... https://news.cgtn.com/event/2019/PKX/indexPC.html The route map shows Daxing will have flights to... DFW, SEA, LAX, and BOS. https://i...

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by moyangmm
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread
Replies: 124
Views: 27679

Re: PKX (Beijing Daxing) Route Announcements and News Thread

Not sure where that announcement thread went, but the airport is officially open! Now... this website has an interactive diagram for the airport and a route map.... https://news.cgtn.com/event/2019/PKX/indexPC.html The route map shows Daxing will have flights to... DFW, SEA, LAX, and BOS. https://i...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:09 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 787 Range
Replies: 39
Views: 4297

Re: Boeing 787 Range

Brochure ranges are nice for marketing folks, nice arguing points for fanboys; but useless as flight planning parameters. Don’t ask how I know. GF It depends on which brochure range. One company's brochure range is consistently being demonstrated to be pretty reliable, even sometimes too conservati...

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by moyangmm
Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:53 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 787 Range
Replies: 39
Views: 4297

Re: Boeing 787 Range

As for the 789, United's LAX-SIN flight takes off not far off its MTOW either, usually with all seats full, and basically flies clear to the edge of its stated 14,140km range, and those winds are not favorable at all. Last I heard UA had scrapped LAX-SIN. The 789 didn’t have the range to make a go ...

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by moyangmm
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Boeing 787 Range
Replies: 39
Views: 4297

Re: Boeing 787 Range

Boeing's range number is very conservative. Its assumptions about aircraft weight normally is higher than the actual weight. Both 787 and 77W fly at least 1 hour longer than the payload-range chart in the "Airport Planning Guide" for any given payload.

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and the A350-1000
Replies: 37
Views: 10099

Re: BA and the A350-1000

Is there a reason that A350-1000 is not suitable for premium routes? Yes, the wing angle of A350-1000 doesn’t allow for F class seats. Unlike 787, especially 787–10, it offers the best F class seats. I would say the width of A350-1000 is not enough for a 1-2-1 F layout. F passengers expect 1-2-1 on...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and the A350-1000
Replies: 37
Views: 10099

Re: BA and the A350-1000

Global F demand is shrinking, so it stands to reason A350s being the newest airplane available will thus have configurations that reflect the most current market trends - the decline of F class being one of them, and tighter Y class being another, hence the relatively dense configurations seen by B...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and the A350-1000
Replies: 37
Views: 10099

Re: BA and the A350-1000

Weird that no A350 has an F cabin! The plane is certainly big enough...BA total capacity is 331 on theirs..Im sure they could accommodate at least 8 First at the cost of a few J and Y seats. Meanwhile...they are deploying them to DXB..then to YYZ and then TLV and BLR. Maybe no demand for F on those...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and the A350-1000
Replies: 37
Views: 10099

Re: BA and the A350-1000

Weird that no A350 has an F cabin! The plane is certainly big enough...BA total capacity is 331 on theirs..Im sure they could accommodate at least 8 First at the cost of a few J and Y seats. Meanwhile...they are deploying them to DXB..then to YYZ and then TLV and BLR. Maybe no demand for F on those...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 148
Views: 40151

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

Some folks around here make it sound as if the 78X is the magic answer for any route. It is a great plane for sure, but it is not always the obvious answer. Bingo! Both A and B fanboys can't get their heads around the fact that you can't have ONE frame that can be super efficient across all payload...

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by moyangmm
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 148
Views: 40151

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

United will start flying with Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner SFO-AKL and SFO-HND! Who would say that the mayor of this family was also going to dominate the trans-Pacific market Not surprising at all. 787-10 is the most efficient aircraft in the market for the vast majority of the trans-pacific market, e...

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by moyangmm
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:10 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 483
Views: 117408

Re: 787 vs A350 range

zeke wrote:
5.6/hr is defiantly in line with the A359 at light payloads like the IAD-PEK example.


Ok. I was referring to MZFW fuel burns. At light payload on IAD-PEK, A359 probably burns 5.6 t/hr as you said, but Stitch’s data shows 787-10 burns 5.1 t/hr. Still, 787-10 is more efficient.

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by moyangmm
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:24 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 483
Views: 117408

Re: 787 vs A350 range

Why did you assume it had the same 4990 kg in tank after landing? If the actual remaining fuel is 10000 kg, the average burn would be 5.6 kg/hr, much less than an A359 could possibly do. because the SAME assumption was made further up I know, but these are two different flights. Do all UA flights l...

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by moyangmm
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:58 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 483
Views: 117408

Re: 787 vs A350 range

If you look at what jayunited posted in https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1422657 "Take for example today's 5/29/2019 UA85 TLV-EWR flight the MTOG for the 78X is 560,000 today's TOG was 559,235. Now before you said I told you so lets take a look at what is on that aircraft. First...

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