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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and the A350-1000
Replies: 37
Views: 8641

Re: BA and the A350-1000

Is there a reason that A350-1000 is not suitable for premium routes? Yes, the wing angle of A350-1000 doesn’t allow for F class seats. Unlike 787, especially 787–10, it offers the best F class seats. I would say the width of A350-1000 is not enough for a 1-2-1 F layout. F passengers expect 1-2-1 on...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and the A350-1000
Replies: 37
Views: 8641

Re: BA and the A350-1000

Global F demand is shrinking, so it stands to reason A350s being the newest airplane available will thus have configurations that reflect the most current market trends - the decline of F class being one of them, and tighter Y class being another, hence the relatively dense configurations seen by B...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and the A350-1000
Replies: 37
Views: 8641

Re: BA and the A350-1000

Weird that no A350 has an F cabin! The plane is certainly big enough...BA total capacity is 331 on theirs..Im sure they could accommodate at least 8 First at the cost of a few J and Y seats. Meanwhile...they are deploying them to DXB..then to YYZ and then TLV and BLR. Maybe no demand for F on those...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA and the A350-1000
Replies: 37
Views: 8641

Re: BA and the A350-1000

Weird that no A350 has an F cabin! The plane is certainly big enough...BA total capacity is 331 on theirs..Im sure they could accommodate at least 8 First at the cost of a few J and Y seats. Meanwhile...they are deploying them to DXB..then to YYZ and then TLV and BLR. Maybe no demand for F on those...

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by moyangmm
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 150
Views: 35513

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

Some folks around here make it sound as if the 78X is the magic answer for any route. It is a great plane for sure, but it is not always the obvious answer. Bingo! Both A and B fanboys can't get their heads around the fact that you can't have ONE frame that can be super efficient across all payload...

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by moyangmm
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 150
Views: 35513

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

United will start flying with Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner SFO-AKL and SFO-HND! Who would say that the mayor of this family was also going to dominate the trans-Pacific market Not surprising at all. 787-10 is the most efficient aircraft in the market for the vast majority of the trans-pacific market, e...

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by moyangmm
Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:10 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 445
Views: 86949

Re: 787 vs A350 range

zeke wrote:
5.6/hr is defiantly in line with the A359 at light payloads like the IAD-PEK example.


Ok. I was referring to MZFW fuel burns. At light payload on IAD-PEK, A359 probably burns 5.6 t/hr as you said, but Stitch’s data shows 787-10 burns 5.1 t/hr. Still, 787-10 is more efficient.

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by moyangmm
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:24 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 445
Views: 86949

Re: 787 vs A350 range

Why did you assume it had the same 4990 kg in tank after landing? If the actual remaining fuel is 10000 kg, the average burn would be 5.6 kg/hr, much less than an A359 could possibly do. because the SAME assumption was made further up I know, but these are two different flights. Do all UA flights l...

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by moyangmm
Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:58 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 445
Views: 86949

Re: 787 vs A350 range

If you look at what jayunited posted in https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1422657 "Take for example today's 5/29/2019 UA85 TLV-EWR flight the MTOG for the 78X is 560,000 today's TOG was 559,235. Now before you said I told you so lets take a look at what is on that aircraft. First...

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by moyangmm
Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air China A330 fire @ Beijing Airport
Replies: 44
Views: 13820

Re: Air China A330 fire @ Beijing Airport

Looks like the aircraft is gone, but the engines seems to be okay. Is there any value left in the engines, maybe for parts?

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by moyangmm
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Probe launched after oxygen bottles on CX planes found half-empty before flight from YYZ to HKG
Replies: 27
Views: 10034

Re: Probe launched after oxygen bottles on CX planes found half-empty before flight from YVZ to HKG

The reason this made the news is apparently this IS an act of sabotage by some of the pro-HK independence CX employees - whether it's the ground crew in YYZ or aircrew is another story. A bold claim with absolutely no proofs. Here is another one: I suspect this is sabotage by pro-Chinese ground cre...

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by moyangmm
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR
Replies: 427
Views: 78801

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

Not sure that even this rumoured launch of the A350-1000ULR can even carry 300 pax for a 19 hour flight. As is SIA's A350ULR is carrying only 166 pax for its 19 hour flight SIN-EWR. I think QF has dialed down the capacity requirement for Sunrise. It should be able to carry around 250 passengers, ma...

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by moyangmm
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR
Replies: 427
Views: 78801

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

the 778 and hypothetical 359KU are not really competitors in any real sense. the payload capacities are far apart on these. the 778 is a much bigger, heavier jet with substantially more lift. A good example is how is the 77L used...it's not at all for extreme range in all but a few cases, like AKL-...

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by moyangmm
Fri May 10, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1494
Views: 273985

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

I wonder if a MTOW-increased 787-10 can be considered for Project Sunrise. I think if Boeing managed to bump 787-10 to around 280t it could be able to do it much more efficiently than A350-1000.

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by moyangmm
Fri May 03, 2019 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unravel the A350-900 lower-range variants: Domestic & Regional
Replies: 42
Views: 8156

Re: Unravel the A350-900 lower-range variants: Domestic & Regional

It depends on the hub they plan to use. No problem for the aircraft on PKX-JFK but I am not sure CAAC will grant it that route. There is a big problem for CAN-JFK; I am not sure how profitable the route will be after the payload hits in order to make it work. CAN-JFK-CAN would be absolutely impossi...

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by moyangmm
Thu May 02, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unravel the A350-900 lower-range variants: Domestic & Regional
Replies: 42
Views: 8156

Re: Unravel the A350-900 lower-range variants: Domestic & Regional

I am very curious about the 20 A359s that CZ has... will they be able to fly to New York? That is indeed a problem. It depends on the hub they plan to use. No problem for the aircraft on PKX-JFK but I am not sure CAAC will grant it that route. There is a big problem for CAN-JFK; I am not sure how p...

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by moyangmm
Thu May 02, 2019 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)
Replies: 172
Views: 7872

Re: JAL announces first A350 route

Waterbomber2 wrote:
If you want to cheer for Boeing, you can suggest that JL orders additional B787's.


I totally agree. B787-10 is also a good option for their long-haul premium fleet. Given how low the density JL uses, B78J has more than enough range.

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by moyangmm
Thu May 02, 2019 8:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)
Replies: 172
Views: 7872

Re: JAL announces first A350 route

B and his fan won’t be too happy seeing this. Especially when the -1000 goes long-haul in future. All in all, nice looking aircraft and livery. But A350-1000 doesn’t have first class. All current A35J operators use 35J on less premium markets with low-J, no-F configurations, compared with 77W. If J...

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by moyangmm
Thu May 02, 2019 6:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

I guess the impression of 'Boeing underpromises and overdelivers and vice-versa for Airbus' is not entirely untrue. For example: B789: brochure range: 7,635 nmi, longest actual range (LHR-PHR) 7,829 nmi A350-900: brochure range: 8,100 nmi, longest actual range (MNL-JFK) 7,404 nmi A350-900 ULR: broc...

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by moyangmm
Thu May 02, 2019 6:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

I guess the impression of 'Boeing underpromises and overdelivers and vice-versa for Airbus' is not entirely untrue. For example: B789: brochure range: 7,635 nmi, longest actual range (LHR-PHR) 7,829 nmi A350-900: brochure range: 8,100 nmi, longest actual range (MNL-JFK) 7,404 nmi A350-900 ULR: broc...

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by moyangmm
Thu May 02, 2019 6:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

on the first flight it was noted that it landed with over 10t of fuel in reserve compared to a standard 4-5t and that it took off at~272t according to evidence from a well respected pilot on this forum. Suggesting there could have been ~13-14t of fuel uplift if required and at 5.8t/hr that’s would ...

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by moyangmm
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 321neo routes
Replies: 63
Views: 13045

Re: Delta 321 neos routes

Is the A321neo capable of doing TCON without doing fuel stops during the winter?

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by moyangmm
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

DL can order a higher MTOW A350 if they really need to, but for now the 77L makes more sense. That doesn't mean by default that the plane can't make it with an economically viable payload. So you agree with me the current A350 (275t) is having troubles do LAX-SYD. Otherwise why do they need to orde...

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by moyangmm
Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

That imho is more or less bull. You are arguing manufacturer B ACAPS data vs (unknown) real world data from manufacturer A. ( same dysfunctional argument was brought forward in the 753 vs A321LR payload range discussions.) ACAPS data for all manufacturers show the same/similar limitation. ( still a...

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by moyangmm
Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

You nonsensically try to refute people posting statements based on published documents and people that actually fly the aircraft. :shakehead: As a non pilot, it looks to me based on documents I've reviewed that a A359 WV010 could transport almost 31 metric tons 8,100 nautical miles. A lot of what y...

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by moyangmm
Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

I'd love to see this extrapolation, especially given that the payload figures given by ITSTours appear to be erroneous (all the same to the 8th decimal for every month for both routes?...) and that the actual take off weight is not given... Let's start from 49t payload @ 5763nm, and let's ignore th...

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by moyangmm
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

On the topic. There is no real indication A350 cannot do LAX-SYD-LAX with full pax and bags in DL configuration with some spare weight for cargo. A350 may be your favorite aircraft, but it's not reasonable to just cite data you like and ignore the ones you don't. While I do not question the authori...

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by moyangmm
Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

DTW-PVG on June 2018, 297 pax and 97.3% L/F on average. This figure is really impressive, no doubt Delta is printing money. With 2.3t cargos on average as well. Your figures are pretty much in line with the number I cited DTW-PVG: 6202nm GC, 297 pax + 2.3t cargo is about 32.3t payload. DTW-PEK: 49t...

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by moyangmm
Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

Has anyone on this thread consulted the ACAPS document? I've misread the A359 chart on the phone which changes the conclusion entirely. It should be: 34t payload @ 7,700nm 30t payload @ 8,200nm 789 25t payload @ 7,700nm A particular individual seems to be under the impression that the A350-900 has ...

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by moyangmm
Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

SEPilot wrote:
PR is using the A359 for JFK-MNL, which is 7,404nm. As far as I know they are not blocking any seats.


Could you provide some data for this?

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by moyangmm
Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

If this is the data you are talking about (http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1408737), you are wrong. The aircraft took off 5 tons less than mtow and there is no mention of cargo not being carried. 271t - 103.7t fuel - 140t OEW = 27.3t payload for 253 passengers + bags, definit...

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by moyangmm
Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

During the early days of the non-stop flights, for personal interest, I was tracking the SIN-SFO direct flights daily for about 6 months, comparing them to the UA 789 direct flights. There was no "winner" in terms of flight time, as much depended on the route taken and on the arrival ATC ...

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by moyangmm
Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

I wonder if DL are aware of how incompetent their negotiators are if they've ordered a plane that doesn't do what they've asked it to. Other airlines don't appear to have any problems with the A350's capabilities, and I think we'd have heard by now if the plane wasn't meeting specifications. The A3...

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by moyangmm
Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

And that was about 7,705 nautical miles for "Boeing full-pax" 747-400ER. You realize multiple airlines flew LAX-SYD with 747-400s for years. And RRs (QF) had very slightly worse range than GE/PW powered birds. Yes? 7200nm on-paper range is good enough for LAX-SYD. The problem with A350 is...

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by moyangmm
Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?

According to moyangmm , B747-400 wouldn't be able to make LAX-SYD either as it's manufacturer full passenger stated range was ~7,270nmi. I do not understand what you are talking about. QF used 747-400ER, which has more range than regular 747-400. Even the regular 747-400 with 7270 nm (8366 miles) r...

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by moyangmm
Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

And you'd be wrong. From the real world data I have access to, I can't see the 275t version not being able to carry 280 pax + bags on LAX-SYD, even accounting for headwinds and extra alternate/diversion fuel. Note that in this case, it would barely be able to carry any cargo. You said 275t version ...

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by moyangmm
Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

Thanks for the data! I corrected myself in this thread (may have been deleted) that 359 can fly around 6800 nm, not 6000 nm, with full pax + bags and no cargo. And now you are suddenly turned back into the baseless claim that A359 cannot fly 6500nm. I conceded that the range of DL 275t is around 68...

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

* The A350-900 can fly SYD-LAX no problem. Surely it can with a significant amount of seats blocked. * Some of DL’s A359’s are limited on the route being of a lower weight variety. * The issue with those lower weight varieties that DL operates has been overcome with Canberra now being a diversion a...

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

You don't trust Zeke? Then here is another evidence. Cathay is constantly flying A359s on IAD-HKG route. I am not disagreeing with Zeke. CX A359 has only 280 seats whereas DL has 306 seats. I am not saying DL A359 can't fly LAX-SYD if they decides to block seats. I said it can't with full passenger.

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

Amazing how Airbus have managed to sell almost 70 (not including cancellations and I am aware not all are firm yet) of them this year already, and that includes 20 on a repeat order. I imagine Airbus have a few lined up for Paris. Not bad for a plane that can barely make it from Toulouse to Barcelo...

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

None of what you're saying is making sense especially considering someone above just confirmed they flew the damn things on longer routes. Another member just also said DL maybe have initially ordered lower MTOW A350s that couldn't do the route, yet you're repeating that even the upgraded MTOW does...

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

Why are you constantly trying to mislead people here, arguing A350 is significantly worse than 787? I didn't mislead people. I was simply pointing out the fact that A350 doesn't have the range like 789, or even 77W. I didn't say A350 is worse than 787 in all aspects. It still has larger cabin than ...

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

I don't think DL made any mistake. Unlike some other carriers, DL didn't order the A350 as an ULH airliner. They had the B77L as an ULH airliner. So they simply didn't need range and they chose to reduce their operating costs by having a lower MTOW. They did make a mistake. Their original 268t fram...

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

airbazar, actually looking at the reconfigured 777, the 777 has 28 Delta One Suites while the A350 has 32 (4 more). And I find it funny that the A350 can't even do LAX-SYD while UA's 789 is flying IAH-SYD (6th longest route in the world). As I said repeatedly in this forum, the A350 is simply not a...

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

Because A350 has to reduce payload in order to make westbound LAX-SYD. People defend it using Airbus' highly unrealistic range number. But DL's own data shows it simply doesn't have the range. There were multiple reports showing that, with real world DL number. I suggest you read trav777's detailed...

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by moyangmm
Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored?
Replies: 315
Views: 55563

Re: How come the DL A350 can't fly LAX-SYD it is rumored!?

Because A350 has to reduce payload in order to make westbound LAX-SYD. People defend it using Airbus' highly unrealistic range number. But DL's own data shows it simply doesn't have the range. There were multiple reports showing that, with real world DL number. I suggest you read trav777's detailed ...

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by moyangmm
Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 150
Views: 35513

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

UA has flown the 78J on IAD-PEK before. We may see more of this on the TPAC market than anticipated at first. With a significant load reduction. Similarly to how SQ would operate 772ERs on the eastbound SIN-LAX when A345s were down for mtx. The load reduction is not a limitation of the 78J; the fli...

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by moyangmm
Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 150
Views: 35513

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

787-10's role in trans-Pacific will probably be limited. It has about the same range as A330-300. 787-10's range is greatly understated by Boeing; in real world 78J can comfortably fly with full passengers and bags from US east coast to Japan, Korea or PEK, or from US west coast to anywhere in the ...

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by moyangmm
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First A321LR delivered to TAP
Replies: 81
Views: 21570

Re: First A321LR delivered to TAP

So a 321LR is just a 97t 321NX with three ACTs?

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by moyangmm
Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: JAL takes delivery of its 1st Airbus (A350)
Replies: 172
Views: 7872

Re: JAL announces first A350 route

It’s probably for crew familiarisation first and later on be sent for international routes. Clearly this is a domestic configuration, with recliner F seats. I can't imagine JL would use it for intl routes other than ultra short-haul routes to Korea or China. Plus theirs are de-rated A350-942 which ...

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