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by rocANDtpa
Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 223
Views: 28511

Re: Upstate New York Aviation Thread - 2020

Looks like Southwest will be bringing back Florida flight to ROC this winter and even expanding to some degree. https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/lifestyles/travel/additional-non-stop-flights-to-florida-from-rochester-announced-for-early-2021/ Orlando (MCO) Non-Stop January – Daily February – Dail...

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by rocANDtpa
Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kalitta 737 off runway in ROC
Replies: 15
Views: 5477

Re: Airplane off runway in ROC

Dominion301 wrote:
727? Hope it’s nothing much.


Apparently the major impact was that they had to close both runways to get the plane out of the grass which disrupted other flights.

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by rocANDtpa
Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kalitta 737 off runway in ROC
Replies: 15
Views: 5477

Re: Airplane off runway in ROC

https://13wham.com/news/local/plane-sli ... er-airport

For unknown reasons the plane left the tarmac and went onto the grass. The flight was for DHL Cargo.
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https://13wham.com/news/local/plane-sli ... er-airport

For unknown reasons the plane left the tarmac and went onto the grass. The flight was for DHL Cargo.

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by rocANDtpa
Sat May 30, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United eliminates 13 executive positions
Replies: 50
Views: 14535

Re: United eliminates 13 executive positions

VP UGE.... Turning those stations over to Skywest ground? Unlikely... Other way around usually. A few of the stations UGE took were former SkyWest that gave up the GH Contract.MTJ, HDN, EGE, JAC..all former SkyWest that UGE took over. SkyWest pulled out of the ground handling. VP UGE.... Turning th...

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by rocANDtpa
Fri May 29, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United eliminates 13 executive positions
Replies: 50
Views: 14535

Re: United eliminates 13 executive positions

VP UGE.... Turning those stations over to Skywest ground? Are you asking if UGE might cease to exist? The reason I ask is because I work at UGE even though I am currently on a leave of absence. In other news UGE announced a few days ago that front line employees will be eligible retiree travel bene...

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by rocANDtpa
Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Looks like ROC and SYR get an extra mainline flight added in the April release. ROC - PHL A319 and SYR to CLT 737-800. oops sorry guys didn’t see the post above. Exciting to see AA finally taking ROC seriously though. Maybe an E-175 or a A319 to DFW will be next. MDT just got a flight and we are a ...

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by rocANDtpa
Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Looks like ROC and SYR get an extra mainline flight added in the April release. ROC - PHL A319 and SYR to CLT 737-800.

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

jworks158 wrote:
rocANDtpa wrote:
ROC will see an AA 321 in February once a week for a Friday RON.


Wow that's quite the upgage from an E170 or CR9. Is this the first time ROC has received scheduled A321 service? Will there be an A319 on the other days?


Looks like there is a 319 midday turn the other days.

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

ROC will see an AA 321 in February once a week for a Friday RON.

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 698253002/
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Story from a local columnist in the local paper about whether ROC should still be an international airport.

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 698253002/

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by rocANDtpa
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Phew, SYR, ROC look like they might survive according to the article in the comment above. ^^^^ Let's hope this is true. Maybe politics or maybe the face that Jetblue is NY's Hometown airline saved ROC and or SYR. If ROC is saved could the impossible happen and there be an expansion in ROC like the...

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by rocANDtpa
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

I hope your right, JetBlue said that they will be discontinuing some routes they have had since they’ve started. The only reason to leave SYR would be that they needed the planes to do routes with better returns. And if they're willing to scrap smaller 'unprofitable' routes that are feeding their b...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Well AA updated the January schedule and the rumor of a mainline turn was true. BOS goes from Envoy to Piedmont. Not all good news though as ORD and PHL lose a flight. CLT 1 A319 2 E175 1CR9 ORD 3 CR7 PHL 4 E145 BOS 3 E145 DCA 3 CRJ Looks like SYR loses a bit of capacity with this release CLT 1 A31...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Well AA updated the January schedule and the rumor of a mainline turn was true. BOS goes from Envoy to Piedmont. Not all good news though as ORD and PHL lose a flight. CLT 1 A319 2 E175 1CR9 ORD 3 CR7 PHL 4 E145 BOS 3 E145 DCA 3 CRJ Looks like SYR loses a bit of capacity with this release CLT 1 A319...

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

RUMOR: AA mainline will return to ROC sometime in January with 1 turn to CLT. As a turn or a RON? I’ve heard the same rumor but no other details as to equipment or times. I heard there will be 1 mainline flight and it will be a turn. I did nt hear mention of equipment type either. Is the AA January...

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

RUMOR: AA mainline will return to ROC sometime in January with 1 turn to CLT.

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by rocANDtpa
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

DCA-ROCguy wrote:
Southwest's August 30 schedule extension is out. The reduction of BWI-ROC to two flights during January and February returns to three on Thursday, March 7.

Jim


It looks like Southwest added an extra weekly flight to MCO and TPA on Saturday too with 8 weekly for both markets.

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by rocANDtpa
Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

I flew out of ROC recently and I couldn't help but notice that as far as AA goes that they need some new jetways and other improvemnts as the one for my flight to ORD made a very audible kachink-kachink sound as it was being attached to the plane and some of the others had lots of rust on them plus...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

I flew out of ROC recently and I couldn't help but notice that as far as AA goes that they need some new jetways and other improvemnts as the one for my flight to ORD made a very audible kachink-kachink sound as it was being attached to the plane and some of the others had lots of rust on them plus...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?
Replies: 111
Views: 18397

Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

[quote="SyracuseAvGeek Do they have mainline on ORD-BUF/SYR/ROC?[/quote] No they don't. If I had to guess I would say BUF would get it first, then maybe ALB and ROC. Most likely not SYR, SYR can't even support 1x daily with United like ALB, BUF, and ROC do. UNITED did 1x daily mainline last sum...

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by rocANDtpa
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

D&C story about ROC renovation taking shape. Steele is being installed. https://on.rocne.ws/2HHa2UJ Highlights of Story Tablets will be available in food court area where you can monitor the gate departure area. Taste of NY restaurant with Nick Tahoe’s and Abbott’s Triple the amount of plug ins ...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Also, thought I’d take the time to add up UA’s capacity at the 4 primary upstate airports for the month of June. Very different from last year at this time: BUF: 1,246 daily departure seats over 17 flights (73.3 seats per flight)(2 mainline, 15 regional) ROC: 1,106 daily departure seats over 11 fli...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

I guess the discrepency of AA in ROC is not as bad as I thought. Here is a look of AA in upstate NY for June 2018. BUF: 1420 daily departure seats over 18 flights (78.9 seats per flight)(3 mainline, 15 regional) ROC: 1,114 daily departure seats over 19 flights (74 seats per flight) ( 0 mainline, 19 ...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Looks like United will be operating six mainline flights to ROC in June. Four to ORD and two to EWR. Pretty impressive. And yet, they cannot manage one to SYR. Pathetic. I agree. I also think it’s pathetic AA can’t bring a couple of mainline flights to ROC and also have close to the capability AA h...

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Looks like United will be operating six mainline flights to ROC in June. Four to ORD and two to EWR. Pretty impressive.

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

ROC "will never grow" to be BUF and SYR is GROWING with Frontier last week adding flight and possibly WN coming too. Also, I have lived in Rochester for 2 years. Xerox is crumbling ....SLOWLY but surely and Kodak is basically just a giant empty plants in Greece, NY. The wealthy tech city ...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Yes, I already provided those numbers earlier. BUF has Toronto and Hamilton nearby, which appears to nearly double its numbers. ROC doesn't have that particular catchment advantage, which I noted earlier. But SYR does not have a wealthy tech metro area of 5+ million with high airport costs within a...

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by rocANDtpa
Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Looks like UA loaded their tentative fall schedule and it’s just as good or even better than the June schedule.

ROC shows:

ORD 4x 320
1x CRJ
EWR 1x 319
1x E170
3x ERJ
IAD 2x CR7
2x ERJ

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by rocANDtpa
Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: Upstate New York Thread - 2018

Sounds like UA SYR-DEN to me too based on the tease.

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Employees of American Airlines-Owned American Eagle Make Less Than $10 an Hour
Replies: 146
Views: 15493

Re: Employees of American Airlines-Owned American Eagle Make Less Than $10 an Hour

Not sure how this affects the plight of us Envoy Agents but Piedmont Agents turned down their TA. The TA including numerous pay scales with a minimum of 10.50 to 16 in 2018 and 11.75 to 17.75 in 2022 in "lower cost of living" stations like SAT and MDT and as much as 14.00 to 19.50 in 2018 ...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: What's Going On In Rochester, NY (ROC) 2018

Looks like AA released it’s June schedule and no mainline in ROC. If anything it’s a worse schedule. PHL loses its two E175 flights in exchange for an extra ERJ. CLT gets the same number of seats but gets 3 E175 in exchange for 3 CR9. DCA is only 3 flights but one is on a E175. ORD and BOS stay the ...

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upstate New York Thread - 2018
Replies: 763
Views: 67621

Re: What's Going On In Rochester, NY (ROC) 2018

In regards to AA at ROC. I’m hoping mainline will return but the schedule loaded through May shows 4 CR9. Not sure if mainline will return. However AA actually has increased seats in ROC with an additional flight to CLT and upgrading two PHL flights to E175. In addition BOS will soon go back to 3 fl...

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by rocANDtpa
Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 602
Views: 93632

Re: United Airlines Network Thread 2018

UA is growing in ROC. 3 mainline flights in February with 2 to ORD and 1 to EWR. June’s tentative schedule shows 3 mainline flights to ORD and an e175 flight.

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/13/2017:DL Closes YQB; UA Adds CKB-IAD/ORD; HU Adds JFK-CTU; AM Adds SLC-GDL
Replies: 62
Views: 11904

Re: OAG Changes 8/13/2017:DL Closes YQB; UA Adds CKB-IAD/ORD; HU Adds JFK-CTU; AM Adds SLC-GDL

Didn't see this mentioned however there are changes for AA in December at ROC: ROC-CLT goes from 3 daily to 4 daily. This results in the loss of mainline however going from 2 A319 and 1 CR9 to 4 CR9. ROC-PHL gets 2 two class jets for the first time in a while with 2 175. While the loss of mainline ...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/13/2017:DL Closes YQB; UA Adds CKB-IAD/ORD; HU Adds JFK-CTU; AM Adds SLC-GDL
Replies: 62
Views: 11904

Re: OAG Changes 8/13/2017:DL Closes YQB; UA Adds CKB-IAD/ORD; HU Adds JFK-CTU; AM Adds SLC-GDL

Didn't see this mentioned however there are changes for AA in December at ROC: ROC-CLT goes from 3 daily to 4 daily. This results in the loss of mainline however going from 2 A319 and 1 CR9 to 4 CR9. ROC-PHL gets 2 two class jets for the first time in a while with 2 175. While the loss of mainline i...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Increasing Capacity ORD-ROC, SYR, ALB. Mainline in SYR.
Replies: 23
Views: 5161

Re: UA Increasing Capacity ORD-ROC, SYR, ALB. Mainline in SYR.

Get this- from when you posted this to now, AA has switched their 7pm CLT to 4:45, and made it a 320 from a 319. Only other changes to be expected for ROC in May is for DTW or MSP to be UG'd to mainline- DL consistently has at least 2 ML RONs in ROC in May, if not 3.[/quote] Good to see AA adding ca...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's up at ROC--No United Mainline?
Replies: 14
Views: 3162

Re: What's up at ROC--No United Mainline?

Well, better late than never, but thought I'd give my two cents. For the past 3 years, UA has ended mainline ROC-ORD from the week before Xmas, to the 2nd week in FEB. They do that consistently to avoid sending their own aircraft to markets that have outsourced OPS that go through severe whether. T...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Increasing Capacity ORD-ROC, SYR, ALB. Mainline in SYR.
Replies: 23
Views: 5161

Re: UA Increasing Capacity ORD-ROC, SYR, ALB. Mainline in SYR.

UA has mainline to ROC off and on. Usually in the Summer it returns. They use anything from an A319 to a 739. I too remember the 757 on BUF-ORD back in 2011. I am pretty sure UA has had mainline consistently in the past several years with the exception of Jan 2017 and Feb 2017. Hopefully this was a...

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by rocANDtpa
Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Increasing Capacity ORD-ROC, SYR, ALB. Mainline in SYR.
Replies: 23
Views: 5161

Re: UA Increasing Capacity ORD-ROC, SYR, ALB. Mainline in SYR.

AA also has more flights into ROC than recent memory. This is not referring to the days US controlled the market in ROC. The April and May schedules show 20 flights into ROC. This is more flights than DL which has 16 flights. CLT 3 flights - 2A319 and 1 CRJ (Hopefully this CRJ will be upgraded to a ...

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Increasing Capacity ORD-ROC, SYR, ALB. Mainline in SYR.
Replies: 23
Views: 5161

UA Increasing Capacity ORD-ROC, SYR, ALB. Mainline in SYR.

The June schedule for United shows more mainline flights and more capacity in upstate NY:

ROC-ORD 2 737-900
1 737-800


SYR-ORD 1 Airbus 320
3 ERD 145

ALB-ORD 2 737-800
1 Airbus 319
1 CRJ 700

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ITH receives marketing grant
Replies: 20
Views: 1941

Re: ITH receives marketing grant

Good new for ITH! AA recently announced the discontinuation of service to ELM and BGM while ITH got spared. AA also now has jet service on two of the three flights. United has three prop flights to EWR and Delta has three jets to DTW. I feel sorry for the taxpayers of New York who just donated $250,...

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by rocANDtpa
Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's up at ROC--No United Mainline?
Replies: 14
Views: 3162

Re: What's up at ROC--No United Mainline?

For January and the first part of February I see a MD-88 on ROC-DTW along with a ERJ-175. That should help with eat-west connections while UA decides to send 3 small regional jets between ROC and ORD. The March schedule for UA shows the return of two mainline flights. Two 737-700.

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by rocANDtpa
Thu May 14, 2015 2:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Is Going On In ROC?
Replies: 57
Views: 7858

RE: What Is Going On In ROC?

Southwest schedule extension is out and it's not great for <acronym title="Rochester - Greater Rochester International (Monroe County) (ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC</acronym>. <acronym title="Rochester - Greater Rochester International (Monroe County) (ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC</acronym>-...

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by rocANDtpa
Thu May 14, 2015 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Is Going On In ROC?
Replies: 57
Views: 7858

RE: What Is Going On In ROC?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ROCDLFAN" class="quote" target="_blank">ROCDLFAN</a> (<a href="#11" class="quote">Reply 11</a>):<br/><i> <acronym title="Delta Air Lines (USA)">...

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by rocANDtpa
Tue May 12, 2015 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What Is Going On In ROC?
Replies: 57
Views: 7858

RE: What Is Going On In ROC?

Nice post few comments... Delta is is showing 6 mainline flights into <acronym title="Rochester - Greater Rochester International (Monroe County) (ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC</acronym> in early June. That's not too shabby. Delta is currently king in <acronym title="Rochester - Greater Rochester...

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by rocANDtpa
Fri May 23, 2014 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA (US) Ending Mainline Into ROC
Replies: 15
Views: 5607

RE: AA (US) Ending Mainline Into ROC

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/United_fan" class="quote" target="_blank">United_fan</a> (<a href="#4" class="quote">Reply 4</a>):<br/><i>Funny how US just started double daily...

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by rocANDtpa
Fri May 23, 2014 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA (US) Ending Mainline Into ROC
Replies: 15
Views: 5607

RE: AA (US) Ending Mainline Into ROC

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/United_fan" class="quote" target="_blank">United_fan</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>I too saw this on the desktop timetabl...

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by rocANDtpa
Fri May 23, 2014 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA (US) Ending Mainline Into ROC
Replies: 15
Views: 5607

AA (US) Ending Mainline Into ROC

Eff. 06/05 US will be ending mainline service into <acronym title="Rochester - Greater Rochester International (Monroe County) (ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC</acronym>. <acronym title="Rochester - Greater Rochester International (Monroe County) (ROC / KROC), USA - New York">ROC</acronym>-<acronym...

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by rocANDtpa
Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chautauqua Now Doing ROC-ORD
Replies: 12
Views: 2662

RE: Chautauqua Now Doing ROC-ORD

Is US ending mainline service on ROC-CLT? The June schedule just shows two CR9s?

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by rocANDtpa
Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chautauqua Now Doing ROC-ORD
Replies: 12
Views: 2662

RE: Chautauqua Now Doing ROC-ORD

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/<acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</acronym>-ROCguy" class="quote" target="_blank"><acronym t...

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