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by 2nd2none
Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

TSA numbers from yesterday November 25 was 1,070,967 and at 41% of same weekday last year, and 23,000 more than Sunday November 22. https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput I don’t think you can really compare Wednesday before thanksgiving cus a lot of people flew earlier this time. May...

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by 2nd2none
Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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TSA numbers from yesterday November 25 was 1,070,967 and at 41% of same weekday last year, and 23,000 more than Sunday November 22.

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

This pandemic should have resulted in longest lasting crash course in digital organisation, communication and transactions and those companies and organisations who was not wise enough to pick it by now will be the big loosers, especially the companies who lost sales during this period (except from ...

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by 2nd2none
Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Sunday Nov 22 was again the King of the previous week at 1,047,934, 23 % above the average of the rest of the week at 851,554.
Interesting numbers compared to what was normal before this spektakel, considering the number of red caps it is still low.

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by 2nd2none
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Midwestindy wrote:

2nd2none wrote:
Yes there is : Bookings are based on Dreams and TSA is based on Facts?


Considering this thread is about bookings, it's odd you keep posting stuff like this, if you don't like it feel free to not follow this thread.


I believe the TSA numbers is a result of bookings, or am I wrong?

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by 2nd2none
Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Isn’t there a way to correlate the booking trends with actual TSA numbers? After glancing over the TSA reports it’s been flat or slightly declining since the 1M+ day a few weeks back. The previous booking reports should have indicated that was going to happen. It would seem you can predict future T...

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by 2nd2none
Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Sunday November 15 2020 again won the weekdays race at 978,297. 29 % above the average of the 6 weekdays ahead at 758,888?

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by 2nd2none
Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Sunday is now the King of the week, when it comes to TSA throughput numbers, yesterday November 8 was 973,020 and 30 % above the average numbers for the 6 weekdays ahead.

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by 2nd2none
Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Yes I agree, the relative high numbers at the moment is "leisure" travel and less important earning/business wise for the airlines, best documented with higher troughput near the weekends. Higher throughput days are the same as they've always been, Thu/Fri/Sun. So how do you explain the f...

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by 2nd2none
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Yesterday data October 29 2020 was 42.70 % of last year througput, but daily infection numbers is +97,000 in the US today? https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries Passenger numbers is a poor metric. Fraction of flights year-over-year...

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by 2nd2none
Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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32andBelow wrote:
950,000 yesterday. Did not expect that. Could be a million today


No 973,046 to be exact.

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Anyone trying to go to Hawaii in November will see that the front of the plane is selling out quick. No idea how UA is managing spacing up front on their 752, but DEN-OGG in F is sold out for multiple days in a row the first week in November. The same can practically be said for DFW/PHX-OGG Hawaii ...

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by 2nd2none
Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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Yesterday TSA Throughput October 8 2020 at 936,915 was 9.5% higher than same weekday last week?

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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Total Traveler Throughput numbers fra TSA show that the average throughput from Sunday to Wednesday this week is 5.21 % above the thoughput same days last week.

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

When did tsa stArt updating on the weekend again Probably because someone realized the only realiable numbers to be used by the financial sector, was the TSA figures, they are pure without nonsense, and extremely valuable! And that is why my interest in these numbers! :lol: Wall Street isn't using ...

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by 2nd2none
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

32andBelow wrote:
When did tsa stArt updating on the weekend again


Probably because someone realized the only realiable numbers to be used by the financial sector, was the TSA figures, they are pure without nonsense, and extremely valuable! And that is why my interest in these numbers!

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by 2nd2none
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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Yesterdays TSA throughput number September 15 2020 : 522,383 That is the lowest throughput since July 4 2020 466,669?

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

32andBelow wrote:
The numbers don’t really make sense to me from this weekend. So many people traveled Thursday and Friday. More than came back Monday.


They may come tomorrow (today)?

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by 2nd2none
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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The One Million Mark was not reached yesterday September 7 2020: 935,308

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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As suggested earlier Friday 4 2020 came to 968,673 and September 5th and 6th were both below 700,000.
Will Monday September 7 2020 hit the 1,000,000 mark?

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thailand: Corruption in Thai A340 aircraft deal
Replies: 80
Views: 12486

Re: Thailand: Corruption in Thai A340 aircraft deal

Tell me about one single deal made by Thai (whatever), corruption was not a part of the game, and I would be surprised and tell you that I think that is impossible, sorry that is a fact, I have lived there long enough to know better! The issue isn't just the corruption, it's the fact that companies...

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by 2nd2none
Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Thailand: Corruption in Thai A340 aircraft deal
Replies: 80
Views: 12486

Re: Thailand: Corruption in Thai A340 aircraft deal

Tell me about one single deal made by Thai (whatever), corruption was not a part of the game, and I would be surprised and tell you that I think that is impossible, sorry that is a fact, I have lived there long enough to know better!

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by 2nd2none
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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There is a very big chance the 900,000 mark will be passed today yesterday numbers were 877,698 (Sep. 4 2020).

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

I never claimed the TSA numbers could be used to predict anything, but again the TSA numbers are only 24 hrs old (except from weekends), that is pretty recent?

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by 2nd2none
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

This is why this thread is mostly about bookings, the portion of this equation that airlines care the most about right now. What airlines really care about is net new cash bookings.. bookings on vouchers mean a lot less to them. I flew this past Friday. I was surprised by the number of no-shows sti...

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by 2nd2none
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput


That says nothing and means less than that. What are you trying to say?


That it is not yet growing week by week!
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brilondon wrote:
2nd2none wrote:
The weekend including August 28, 29 and 30 was 31,48 % of same weekend last year and 4,2 % less than the weekend a week ago:

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput


That says nothing and means less than that. What are you trying to say?


That it is not yet growing week by week!

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by 2nd2none
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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The weekend including August 28, 29 and 30 was 31,48 % of same weekend last year and 4,2 % less than the weekend a week ago:

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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Total Traveler Throughput:

Sunday August 23 2020 841,806. 2,45% less than Sunday 16 2020 862,949.

Source:
https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

It's not just about filling planes but filling planes profitably. 90% load factors with $39-$69 O/W fares means the airlines still go broke. Me thinks airlines are giving deep discounts. The fact is yesterday the numbers were at max 25.43 % of last year 2019? https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passeng...

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by 2nd2none
Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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TSA checkpoint travel numbers from August 3 2020 to and including August 9 2020.
Still well below the 30 % mark at 27.50 % of same week in 2019.

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

TSA checkpoint travel numbers for 2020 and 2019

July 30 2020:

718,310 (2020)

2,742,882 (2019)

26.19 %

0,14 percentage point higher than Thursday last week.

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by 2nd2none
Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

32andBelow wrote:
chrisair wrote:
boilerla wrote:
Most families don’t take summer vacations in August.



I’ve always known tons of families taking trips the week before school. Some kids would even miss the first week.


It is more likely pounds of families this summer?

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by 2nd2none
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Midwestindy:
Literally posted data above on forward bookings as of yesterday. TSA numbers are good for telling what is happening now, but doesn't tell you what is going to happen in 2-3-4-5-6 weeks.

I did not predict the future nor did TSA!

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by 2nd2none
Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Unlike most markets in the world, the numbers from the US and TSA are extremely important, it is the only market wide survey of what is going on, on daily basis, since all other figures and numbers are told by airports, airlines and whoever tries to talk the situation they want it be told!

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by 2nd2none
Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1443313&start=400#p22338523
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The TSA numbers are still hovering around the 21 % to 27 % level of last year compared to same week this year:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1443313&start=400#p22338523

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by 2nd2none
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 News and Reference Thread
Replies: 565
Views: 324751

Re: COVID-19 News and Reference Thread

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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TSA checkpoint travel numbers

July 22 2020:

570,951 (2020)

2,561,911 (2019)

22.29 %

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19
Replies: 1034
Views: 125446

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1443313&start=400#p22335547
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Latest TSA numbers from July 21 2020: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1443313&start=400#p22335547

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by 2nd2none
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 News and Reference Thread
Replies: 565
Views: 324751

Re: COVID-19 News and Reference Thread

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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TSA checkpoint travel numbers

July 21 2020:

530,421 (2020)

2,499,460 (2019)

21.22 %

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

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by 2nd2none
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

July 20 2020:

695,330

2,635,312

26.39 %

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by 2nd2none
Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

There is growth Nice cherry-picking by using 7/19 at 27.4%, the best day of the last seven, but, in fact, that's not even the best day month to date. The avg for seven days ending 7/19 (25.4%) was actually lower than the avg of seven days ending 7/12 (26.9%) Growth has stalled - just like DL's Bast...

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by 2nd2none
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

There is growth

June 14 2020:

544,046

2,642,083

20.59%

July 19 2020:

747,422

2,727,355

27,40 %


In percentage points is June 14 20 to July 19 2020: 6,81%
And in numbers June 14 20 to July 19 20: 3,23 %

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by 2nd2none
Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

It seems like we are stuck at the 25 - 27 % level.

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by 2nd2none
Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

July 17 2020:

720,378

2,776,960

25.94 %

July 18 2020:

646,654

2,396,462

26.98 %

July 19 2020:

747,422

2,727,355

27,40 %

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by 2nd2none
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

The biggest challenge to the aviation industry, is when all their business customers realise how much more profit they make, when most of their employees are not allowed to travel. Tons of money is saved from Air tickets, Hotel bills, Car rent, and general waste of time related to travel.

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by 2nd2none
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

July 16 2020:

706,164

2,716,828

25,99 %

Related new cases + 75,000 in the US.

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by 2nd2none
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

July 15 2020:

589,285

2,522,563

23.36 %

Related new cases + 70,000 in the US

Cedar got the dense numbers

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by 2nd2none
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

July 14 2020:

540,268

2,447,177

22,1 %

New related cases +65,000 in the US.

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by 2nd2none
Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

July 13 2020:

697,985

2,615,115

26,69 %

Related cases +60,000

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by 2nd2none
Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons
Replies: 376
Views: 56131

Re: TSA Screening Numbers - Charts and Comparisons

July 10 2020:
711,124
2,716,812
26,17%

July 11 2020:
656,284
2,312,178
28.38%

July 12 2020:
754,545
2,669,717
28,26%

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