I guess that adds to my confusion on the subject, the aircraft was designed and built for a mission it wasn't ready to do upon entrance into service. There is really no reason to add the side doors and spoiler to an aircraft unless you intend to drop paratroops from that door. Unless I am missing s...
Jump to postGrizzly410 wrote:Given the quietness of the Flight Test fleet these days I'd think it's job done. We'll see.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2020/06/03/airbus-a400m-cleared-to-drop-more-paratroopers-through-its-side-doors/ This has probably already been posted, but I cannot believe I missed this. I had erroneously assumed that paratroop deployment was part of the initial development of the aircr...
Jump to postSome commentary from the German Air Force Chief on the Tornado replacement. Seems like the GAF is pretty keen on going for the SH/Growler combo although that will have to survive some strong Airbus lobbying at the political level. He simply echoes the selection decision that Germany’s defence minis...
Jump to postI think you're right the pricing for a new customer is difficult. Germany says they cost 175M Euros each, so I didn't pull a number from the air. See Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A400M_Atlas What export customer paid $150M? I'm curious. (Also, the difference is only 25% or 33%.) ...
Jump to postBoth the C-2 and A400M cost about $200M each. Discussions based on fictitious prices aren't really useful. I don't think that you or me know how much a new costumer would pay for any of these aircraft. It would depend on negotiations about the extent to which a new customer would have to contribute...
Jump to postBoth the C-2 and A400M cost about $200M each. Discussions based on fictitious prices aren't really useful. I don't think that you or me know how much a new costumer would pay for any of these aircraft. It would depend on negotiations about the extent to which a new customer would have to contribute...
Jump to postSuppose some nation wanted to buy a good sized fleet of C2s. Any guess what the production rate could be, and what they might cost? It seems unreasonable that a c2 could cost about $136M, which is about half an A400! I also wonder if Japan would sell to nations like India or Saudi Arabia or Indones...
Jump to postWith the reduced population to draw on, the UK military would have even a smaller pool to draw on. Right now, the RN has 2-3 frigates/destroyers tied up to the pier because they are short of men. The Irish join because their own military is sh+t as far as equipment and opportunities go. The Scottis...
Jump to postMoney: Right now Scotland is spending $0 on military Are you trying to say that nobody in Scotland pays their taxes? Scotland will start with 0, and go from there. This also ignores the military history of Scotland and the Scottish units in the British Army . The Scottish parliament don't pay anyth...
Jump to postkitplane01 wrote:Money: Right now Scotland is spending $0 on military
kitplane01 wrote:Scotland will start with 0, and go from there.
Deployments or not, they’ve also had customers just give up. LOL @ the German rationales and defensiveness here... It’s still mired around 50% in France; https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/french-navy-nh90-caiman-availability-rates-improving The Belgians are scaling back due to...you gu...
Jump to postOn a twin you need extra power per engine to meet single engine take-off performance requirements. If one engine fails just before lift off, too late to abort, e.g. a C130 has 3x5000shp left, an A200M just 11.000shp, to clear the fence at the end of the runway. You are talking about twin engine jet...
Jump to postPlease please please -- can you please keep Trump out of this? On this side of the pond the elections are barely over (or not, according to some) and we come from months and months of yelling and screaming. How about discussing the technical merits of the decision? I tend to follow the helicopter p...
Jump to postThe German A350s can even be used for troop transport. There are 76 premium economy seats in the back and 30 business class seats available in addition to the VIP seats. It's also planned to utilize them in the MedEvac role. https://www.bundeswehr.de/bw-de/organisation/luftwaffe/aktuelles/der-neue-a...
Jump to postThis to me signals the death of the A400M, Maybe. Just like the C-27J marked the death of the C-130J. Oh wait, wishful thinking from Lockheed country ... they have basically acknowledged by going after this market segment that the A400M is too big for most operators. They have acknowledged that the...
Jump to postAccording to a parliamentary report written by the French deputies Benjamin Griveaux and Jean-Louis Thiériot in July 2020, Airbus is working on a project that the French military calls "Future Medium Tactical Cargo aircraft" (FCTM). It's supposed to replace the CN-235s and C-130Hs of the F...
Jump to postCongrats to EMB on the Hungary sale. That happened very quickly since things sort of split from Boeing (I think Boeing is still involved on the military side). Plausibly, on partnerships, I could see Airbus as a good fit in addition to India, as the A400M production is ending. They have lost piles ...
Jump to postActually, its NATO itself that internally self-determines who is and who isn't meeting that 2%. NATO itself released a report on or about October 20th, 2020, outlining the GDP contributions of each member nation. Apologies, but it seems to be NATO that itself determines this, and it was NATO itself...
Jump to postAccording to Aviation Week , Airbus is offering a new final assembly line for the Eurofighter in Switzerland where all 40 aircraft could be produced. I wonder what weight is given to 'cooperation between the armed forces ... of Switzerland and those of the supplier country'. I presume that, due to t...
Jump to postThe C-2 performance seems to be extremely impressive. It has the lowest empty weight as a percentage of the maximum takeoff weight of any airlifter on the market. For instance the C-2 has the same 141t MTOW of the A400M yet the A400M weighs a massive 25% more. This weight saving in the C-2 allows f...
Jump to postmxaxai wrote:The 38 aircraft will cost EUR 5.5 billion (USD 6.54 billion), or USD 172 million each.
I don;t know why but it reminds me of the Kanzleramt.. Me neither. Completely different design language. Are you both sure? I mean, the BER is rather inspired by the old chanceller bangalow style, here is a loyalty-free pic from wiki: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Bundesarchiv...
Jump to postHow can turboprops like C-130 and A400M cruise at the same height and speed as jets? Can they? While the A400M cruises at the same height and only slightly slower than many jets, the C-130J is clearly slower and can rarely be found at 30,000 feet or above. There are pages listing world records for ...
Jump to postLooks very nice to me. Simple and understated. Elegant not showy. https://www.archdaily.com/950522/berlin-brandenburg-airport-willy-brandt-gmp Photos only show check in area, that is fine. However in videos at the gates areas/shops it looks worse. Low ceiling and those rectangular columns looks lik...
Jump to postIn terms of range requirements, the Carribean countries of the Netherlands should play an important role. After Hurricane Irma in 2017, the Netherlands requested German A400Ms to supply and evacuate Sint Maarten. The SAC has only three C-17s, which is insufficient in case of a major disaster. Remem...
Jump to postIn terms of range requirements, the Carribean countries of the Netherlands should play an important role. After Hurricane Irma in 2017, the Netherlands requested German A400Ms to supply and evacuate Sint Maarten. The SAC has only three C-17s, which is insufficient in case of a major disaster. There ...
Jump to postI know the Americans provide this kind of data publicly. I would be stunned if the reason the Germans stopped is to avoid giving the Russians intel. Wouldn't you? Who said it's because of the Russians? I guess they're getting the data sooner than the German minister of defence ... "Potential e...
Jump to postI'm not mocking. Not once. The problem is not the CH-53s. They get the same 25% readiness for A400s, Typhoons, submarines, etc. The problem is not the CH-53s. CH-53G is at the end of the bathtub curve . A400M was at the beginning of that curve. Typhoons and submarines: During the Bundeswehr reforms...
Jump to postWhy would the CH-53 have a parts problem? "This has changed over the last year. The USMC initiated a ‘reset’, aimed at bringing the aging CH-53Es back to full readiness. This means full depot level maintenance for every Sea Stallion, stripping them down the bones and building them back up agai...
Jump to postThey turned back to attempt a landing somewhere, yes. When they impacted the ground they were well into a stall. The hard impact caused the breakup and fire of the aircraft. The right wing never struck any of the power pylons...you just think that because you looked at a picture. Try researching it...
Jump to postThe Airbus press release adds some more info on the state of the A400M program: The A400M recently achieved additional capabilities such as simultaneous paratrooper dispatch for a maximum of 116 paratroopers using the side doors, automatic low level flight in visual meteorological conditions (the on...
Jump to postLuxemburg has received its only A400M, the first aircraft of a joint unit that will also comprise seven A400Ms ordered by Belgium.
Luxembourg welcomes lone A400M Atlas airlifter - Flightglobal
What always baffles me with these military transport crash-landings is the significant damage to the aircraft on landing. The KC-390 suffered major damage to gear and fuselage in a runway overrun. The A400M was completely destroyed while landing on a relatively flat, open field. This KC-130J either...
Jump to postSeems the Germans are learning from the Chinese! :biggrin: No. What the German requirements aim at is independence from foreign made spare parts that may not be available in a conflict, and the ability to introduce their own modifications even without the manufacturer's support. Of course it would ...
Jump to postThis article (https://augengeradeaus.net/2020/09/zu-teuer-verteidigungsministerium-stoppt-vergabeverfahren-fuer-neuen-schweren-transporthubschrauber-neufassung/) suggests that the german government expected significant IP transfer Seems the Germans are learning from the Chinese! :biggrin: No. What ...
Jump to postI think a Chinook fits in a A400M (you got to seperate the tail) a CH53 not. Advantageous for the Chinook I think. Way to make up a requirement... The current CH-53G does not fit in the A400M either. Obviously if transporting the heavy lift helicopter was a requirement it would have been written in...
Jump to postA Bundeswehr release (in German) on the new Multinational Air Transport Unit (MNAU) adds two points: The unit is open for A400M operators from other nations. It's not just about military transport, but aerial refuelling as well. The A400M will soon be certified to refuel the Gripen . So the MNAU cou...
Jump to postmxaxai wrote:Honestly, they could. At the current low rates, plants in Germany, Spain and France have more than enough capacity to take over those workpackages.
Ha why would France talk to Germany and the UK about selling Rafales? A better sign to Erdogan would be to cut off parts for the A400M and thereby stop Turkey running guns down to Libya with the aircraft… German companies have been criticized for supplying A400M parts to Turkey. The problem is that...
Jump to postIt's easy and sometimes justifiable to cite the Military/Industrial Complex Eisenhower warned of, however in these cases the responses above highlight why. Interestingly, Donald Trump wants to punish Germany for its weak defense spending by moving US troops to other countries -- and moves them to c...
Jump to postCan someone explain why DBE allows the horizontal stabilizer to be shrunk? I get why the vertical stabilizer can be smaller, since having 4 turboprops turning in the same rotational direction is akin to an out-of-alignment automobile that tends to turn slightly in one direction instead of moving st...
Jump to postA Flightglobal piece about How A400M Atlas spanned the globe during coronavirus response The ongoing crisis in particular has marked a coming of age for the Airbus Defence & Space A400M, with counter-Covid-19 flights having been conducted by all its current operators: France, Germany, Malaysia, ...
Jump to postAt least two A400Ms have been at Gatwick this morning, with ZM419 on finals now, from Brize Norton. Is there an exercise underway? Pilot training, I guess. RAF Brize Norton usually announce these flights on their Twitter account . In this case they wrote: This am/pm, our A400M aircraft will be oper...
Jump to postThe certification of automatic low-level flight under visual meteorological conditions has now been achieved. Automatic low-level flight under instrument meteorological conditions is expected to be certified in the second quarter of 2021. A400M wins certification for automatic low-level flight Inher...
Jump to postStand: 27.06.2017 07:23 Uhr
Date: 27/06/2017 07:23
mxaxai wrote:So I was reading this article (https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/bewaff ... n-101.html)
Stand: 27.06.2017 07:23 Uhr
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Here it says it was at landing. https://defence-blog.com/news/spanish-a400m-atlas-suffers-bird-strike-while-landing.html They say "according to the Breaking Aviation News". But all the Twitter account Breaking Aviation News actually says is "Spanish Air Force A400M damaged following ...
Jump to postHere's an aspect no one has thus far mentioned: is it safe to be in this new terminal? Given the multitude of items that were such a disaster from the design phase of the airport, and given how numerous the MAJOR items to be fixed were, and given how long the building sat empty while seemingly no o...
Jump to postAccording to this Spanish news report, the aircraft was hit by a vulture during takeoff in Zaragoza. Remains of the bird were found inside the sponson. The military hope that repair won't take more than a few days.
Jump to postHere's an aspect no one has thus far mentioned: is it safe to be in this new terminal? Given the multitude of items that were such a disaster from the design phase of the airport, and given how numerous the MAJOR items to be fixed were, and given how long the building sat empty while seemingly no o...
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