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by PolarRoute
Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana
Replies: 124
Views: 15338

Re: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana

https://www.hankyung.com/economy/article/2020111798481 (Korean)

Is this a... disgrace? :P


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ITSTours wrote:
Actually... the creditors are thinking about using Asiana brand for the integrated LCC (Jin Air + Air Busan + Air Seoul).

https://www.hankyung.com/economy/article/2020111798481 (Korean)

Is this a... disgrace? :P


Beat me to it!

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by PolarRoute
Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana
Replies: 124
Views: 15338

Re: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana

People seem to not understand the nature of markets such as ICN. Most of the O&D flows are Korea point of sale meaning the hometown airline(s) have an advantage and most of the time can charge a premium over their foreign counterparts. Just step on any flight between the US/EU - Korea and you'l...

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by PolarRoute
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana
Replies: 124
Views: 15338

Re: Asiana Airlines News and Discussion Thread

Is this a complete merger or a brand acquisition? Korean Air's making it sound like a merger. "The merger of the two airlines". "However, Korea has two full service carriers, which gives it a disadvantage" https://twitter.com/JournoDannyAero/status/1328166653222285312 As per the...

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by PolarRoute
Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana Airlines Discussion Thread
Replies: 212
Views: 74694

Re: Asiana Airlines News and Discussion Thread

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20201113000594 Apparently there are possible antitrust issue if KE intended to acquire OZ And there have been rumors of Korean govn't looking to carve out the KE MRO business and merge it with Korea Aerospace industries (KAI) Possibly a way for KE to break-thr...

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by PolarRoute
Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)
Replies: 295
Views: 37154

Re: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)

Plane: 779 A388 A35K 789/x Wing area (m^2): 516.7 845 464.3 377 Wing aspect ratio: 9.96 7.5 9.03 9.59 MTOW (1000kg): 351.5 575 316 254 Wing loading (tons/m^2): 0.680 0.680 0.681 0.674 Thanks for the hard numbers. Interesting to note that somehow all the wing loadings figures come down to around .68...

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by PolarRoute
Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)
Replies: 295
Views: 37154

Re: The Airbus A380 Turns 15 Today (April 27)

Why do you think it needs to have >1 span/length? A narrower tube would result in a longer tube. My guess is that you'd get pretty close to 80x80 when all is said and done. That's what I, too, am curious about. Maybe his assertion takes into account folding wingtips. But still, one has to wonder if...

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by PolarRoute
Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce 3.7 Meter dia. Engine
Replies: 90
Views: 12023

Re: Rolls Royce 3.7 Meter dia. Engine

Time for the quads to come into play.. A380neo anyone? :stirthepot: :duck:

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by PolarRoute
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Singapore Airlines looking at another US ULR route - ORD, BOS or IAD?
Replies: 184
Views: 31724

Re: Rumour: Singapore Airlines looking at another US ULR route - ORD, BOS or IAD?

But I did not do that. 4.5 hours IAH-SFO + 17.5 hrs SFO-SIN would have come up to 22 hours if I had done that, not 21. Where I did make a mistake was in including taxi time. So while it might not be 21 hours aloft save for the days with the strongest winds it sure will be gate to gate on just about...

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by PolarRoute
Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Singapore Airlines looking at another US ULR route - ORD, BOS or IAD?
Replies: 184
Views: 31724

Re: Rumour: Singapore Airlines looking at another US ULR route - ORD, BOS or IAD?

I think your math if off. SFO-SIN is consistently at or over 17 hours. IAH-SFO is at least 4 hours. Put those 2 together and we have a minimum of 21 hours, not 19.5 It doesn't work that way: You can't just tack on two individual segments and think their combined time would be the equivalent airtime...

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by PolarRoute
Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Smoky A350!
Replies: 45
Views: 13415

Re: Smoky A350!

Does it mean there's a real issue or what? Sometimes when you go TOGA thrust the Bleeds will over pressure and the chemtrail outflow valve will open to relive the pressure. It’s temporary, typically the chemtrails are not released until above FL300.....like Zeke said When is SARCASM system relaxed?...

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by PolarRoute
Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would A321XLR open the door for non-stops between US west coast and CTS?
Replies: 51
Views: 8246

Re: Would A321XLR open the door for non-stops between US west coast and CTS?

Just a minor (but much more general than this thread) point, if you're referring to an obscure airport i.e. it's not LHR/JFK could people please just mention the city in the title. It's not you specifically, but it happens so often. Thank you...I like to think I'm pretty savvy when it comes to airp...

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by PolarRoute
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANA reveals new 4 class cabin product
Replies: 73
Views: 15084

Re: ANA reveals new 4 class cabin product

Wow the First Suites might even look mediocre next to that Business class seats.

So why didn't ANA take the chance when they first introduced the A380? To purposely differentiate business products from the leisure market ones?

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by PolarRoute
Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: KE is considering removing first class entirely from their fleet
Replies: 49
Views: 6425

Re: KE removing First Class from entire fleet, upgrading business class (DL management at work!?)

Intriguing they should actually consider this, cuz Korean government figures put their faith in KE, and that was the reason why KE kept F class on all routes up until recently. It should be interesting to see which they decide to prioritize more: keeping gov't officials happy and thus the good relat...

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by PolarRoute
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 28197

Re: Korean Air orders further 787’s

Agreed. KE have always operated VLAs while also having a good number of 77Ws to be replaced (a long way out). As this was probably their last chance of getting A350s, 777X seems to be the only thing that can replace those 77Ws. Disagree about the A350. This order was about replacing aging 777-200s ...

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by PolarRoute
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 28197

Re: Korean Air orders further 787’s

Congrats to KE and Boeing! No surprise KE opted for another batch of 787 to simplify their fleet. No doubt. But with a lot of newer 77Ws, 748i & 388s they have left to cycle out, it will probably be a little while before they get to that point. But they will. May even end up being a fairly large...

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by PolarRoute
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread
Replies: 476
Views: 131723

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

Reinforced MLG with single stage shock absorber, new wheels tires and brakes and a reinforced NLG (new forging manufacturing process) and a new actuator for retraction. From what i heard from a well-informed source. New tires? So does this give pavement loading some relief or is it just to withstan...

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by PolarRoute
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350-1000 Range Increase
Replies: 110
Views: 21265

Re: Airbus A350-1000 Range Increase

In a leeham article posted about project sunrise they say that Qantas have stated they will need about 9500nm still air range to reach London to make sure that can take account of the winds. Flying north and over ANC appears to be the likely candidate route for most of the missions to London ( goin...

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by PolarRoute
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 28197

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

KE have 10 748s oldest 5 years, 10 A380s oldest 8 years and 26 77Ws oldest 12 years newest 1 month. KE don’t need a replacement for any of these yet, even the oldest 77Ws for another 5 years. The 779 will be a good 748/380 partial 77W replacement in 10 years but for now they have older 773/772/332/...

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by PolarRoute
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350-1000 Range Increase
Replies: 110
Views: 21265

Re: Airbus A350-1000 Range Increase

I wonder if the range they quote is taking reserve fuel into account? If so, my simple calculation shows they're about 4~5 tons away from reaching Project Sunrise when using 159t OEW, 490kn, 7t/hr fuel burn (I've been conservative), 35t payload figure @ 8700nm. Not sure how much brochure range is n...

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by PolarRoute
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350-1000 Range Increase
Replies: 110
Views: 21265

Re: Airbus A350-1000 Range Increase

I wonder if the range they quote is taking reserve fuel into account? If so, my simple calculation shows they're about 4~5 tons away from reaching Project Sunrise when using 159t OEW, 490kn, 7t/hr fuel burn (I've been conservative), 35t payload figure @ 8700nm. Not sure how much brochure range is ne...

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by PolarRoute
Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 28197

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

KE's CEO have said in the past that 781 isn't sufficient for them since it can't do ICN-LAX. The 781 certainly is capable of doing ICN-LAX-ICN leg with full cabin, so one would think he had heavy cargo loads in mind when he pointed out insufficient range. In fact, they do have big cargo operations,...

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by PolarRoute
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 28197

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

The A350-1000 seems almost inevitable at KE eventually, but I don't think it's what they need right now. In the short term I expect they need more 787s, both -9 and -10, and that's what I would guess to be the outcome of this order. We'll see... In real life they need 777-X ... If the 787-10 can do...

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by PolarRoute
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 28197

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

For some people who are not familiar with Korean Air: 1) KE is known for a wide seat pitch. Their widebodies have 34" for economy class. 2) Thus, most of the configurations are low density. Except for 787-9. But the seat pitch is still 33-34" as their 787-9 has very low numbers of premium...

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by PolarRoute
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 28197

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

dongone04 wrote:
Also, they tend to do the maintenance at their Tech Center in Busan, but if they use RR engines, they have to send their aircrafts far away to receive maintenance. I remember the nearest is in Singapore, which is about 6 hours away from Seoul.


Manila has one.

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by PolarRoute
Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air Chairman Ousted
Replies: 21
Views: 5259

Re: Korean Air Chairman Ousted

Although some of the family members made noise occasionally, without the family's hardline to the others, KE wouldn't have survived. So does that justify throwing a cup of water at someone’s face, or the Nut Rage, which was essentially a terror, or any other immoral actions that they’ve taken? No i...

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by PolarRoute
Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways commits to ordering 18 777-9 plus an additional 24 options
Replies: 254
Views: 49787

Re: British Airways commits to ordering 18 777-9 plus an additional 24 options

Based on this article, KE could place a large order for WB jets this year and it is between the A350 and 777X https://airlinegeeks.com/2018/10/20/korean-air-eyeing-major-widebody-order-to-renew-aging-fleet/ He didn't say anything about the possibility of placing an order this year. Maybe it's the '...

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by PolarRoute
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways commits to ordering 18 777-9 plus an additional 24 options
Replies: 254
Views: 49787

Re: British Airways commits to ordering 18 777-9 plus an additional 24 options

KE has very young fleet of 77Ws alongside with quad-engine VLAs that have 10+ years of life left. I'm quite sure KE's order will come, but not sometime so soon. If Boeing puts teeth in their promises, we will see more orders. EK, OZ, AF/KLM Lightsaber I doubt OZ is interested in 777X. They not only ...

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by PolarRoute
Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad A380 to Seoul
Replies: 9
Views: 3309

Re: Etihad A380 to Seoul

Great to see ICN recieving another A380 service!

Although I suspect there won’t be enough premium demand to fill F and J cabin up

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by PolarRoute
Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ten A380 Orders Removed From Backlog
Replies: 167
Views: 33047

Re: Ten A380 Orders Removed From Backlog

^^despite what I said above, I'm not saying the A388's fuselage is bad compared to contemporary competition. On the contrary, it's still the most efficient fuselage in production by a wide margin, despite its suboptimal form and material. It provides ~52% more capacity than 777-9 for only ~17% more...

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by PolarRoute
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Where Would The A380 Be If It EIS'd As Planned?
Replies: 20
Views: 2913

Re: Where Would The A380 Be If It EIS'd As Planned?

Thats a good point as well maybe they should have offered the 900 first and the CASM would be much better off the bat. My apologies, I stated vaguely to avoid my post getting eyewateringly long, but should have worded it better. I think an optimized -800 would have competed better as -900 would hav...

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by PolarRoute
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Where Would The A380 Be If It EIS'd As Planned?
Replies: 20
Views: 2913

Re: Where Would The A380 Be If It EIS'd As Planned?

I agree; everything that could go wrond actually did go wrong. The timing, the decisions, the strategy.. and even the craft itself went down the wrong way. Surely, if it wasn’t for the cancellation of the freighter version, closing the business case for the NEO would have been easier. But in essence...

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by PolarRoute
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 879
Views: 143590

Re: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A350, Boeing 787 for 777-9

If, as everyone seems to predict here, the A380 is dead, do you think Airbus will release some of the A380 Plus enhancements as retrofit options (particularly Winglets and 11-across economy)? Could possibly add some life and value to the existing fleet in a shutdown scenario, and allow Airbus to re...

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by PolarRoute
Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SIA brand overhaul
Replies: 134
Views: 23554

Re: SIA brand overhaul

Are we sure that SQ will get a new livery though? The article OP posted is behind the paywall so I might be wrong, but skimming through some free ones up on Google, I wasn’t able to spot a single article actually mentioning “a new livery.” I’m all up for a new livery, just not seeing any signs of ha...

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by PolarRoute
Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Delta A330neo Rolls Out Of Paintshop
Replies: 105
Views: 33831

Re: First Delta A330neo Rolls Out Of Paintshop

I think I remember reading the delivery date is due for April.

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by PolarRoute
Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK A380 Abuse?
Replies: 84
Views: 20659

Re: EK A380 Abuse?

Samrnpage wrote:
Its the secondary markets connecting to bigger markets that does it. Id love to know the % of pax are connecting vs Direct. Does anyone have any figures for any routes?


It’s about 50 to 50

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by PolarRoute
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Scoot 787 growth to include ordered SIA Group 787-10s?
Replies: 3
Views: 955

Re: Scoot 787 growth to include ordered SIA Group 787-10s?

[*] Scoot's B787-9 has 375 seats, a B787-10 will have 420 seats, then. Is there a need for that many seats on their flights? If those 45 extra seats can be filled without lowering the yield by bigger margin than a CASM advantage the B78X brings, then yes. SQ ordered 3 x A310 and 3 x B757, and flew t...

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by PolarRoute
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RUMOR: LH considering order of up to 15 A380 Plus
Replies: 105
Views: 35031

Re: RUMOR: LH considering order of up to 15 A380 Plus

I wish this doesn’t turn out to be just a rumour, but at the same time Airbus isn’t going to produce an actual A380plus only for 15 LH order. The A38P is only a proposal after all.

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by PolarRoute
Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Next confirmed SQ non-stop Trans-Pacific destination: SEA
Replies: 224
Views: 28971

Re: Unconfirmed: Next SQ non-stop trans-Pacific destination...SEA

There was a thread about this a year ago, I think. It got all flamed by pessimistic views, but now it’s making its way to media!
I think this shows what ambitions SQ have in their US network. With the incoming rebrand, surely interesting times ahead for SIA

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by PolarRoute
Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air mulling widebody order
Replies: 68
Views: 15570

Re: Korean Air mulling widebody order

The A380 is inflexible. Those other jets have been cost amortised and can be deployed regionally. So the a380s are never gonna be cost amortised? ‘Those other jets’ have also had their years paying the bill just like the 380s currently are. South Korean Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transpor...

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by PolarRoute
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:33 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: SQ and SFO-ICN
Replies: 3
Views: 845

Re: SQ and SFO-ICN

I just checked on their mobile page and am not seeing anything. Guess OP misread?

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by PolarRoute
Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad reveals configuration of 787-10, first routes announced
Replies: 10
Views: 6361

Re: Etihad reveals configuration of 787-10, first routes announced

Interesting to see how close most, if not all, of the revealed configurations for 787-10 are to each other. SQ’s 78x sporting 337 seats total with 36 J, KL’s with 338 seats including 38 J, and now EY setting theirs with 32 J and 304 Y to total in 336 seats. Currently its 2 class 789 seats 28 Busines...

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by PolarRoute
Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ resumes direct SIN-LAX on A359ULR from Nov 2, adds 3 weekly SIN-SFO A359ULR
Replies: 51
Views: 12523

Re: SQ resumes direct SIN-LAX on A359ULR from Nov 2, adds 3 weekly SIN-SFO A359ULR

Why 24 weekly fights out of SFO? There is no way this city has that much demand to SIN. Additionally, SIN is geographically a very poor place to connect from anywhere in NA. A.net myth on both counts. Sure, SIN is not HKG or ICN but clearly there's demand and clearly people are connecting on both e...

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by PolarRoute
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ resumes direct SIN-LAX on A359ULR from Nov 2, adds 3 weekly SIN-SFO A359ULR
Replies: 51
Views: 12523

Re: SQ resumes direct SIN-LAX on A359ULR from Nov 2, adds 3 weekly SIN-SFO A359ULR

Interesting that they opted to go 10 weekly on SFO instead of NYC, which is supposedly a higher demand city to/from SIN. Perhaps they decided prioritized chasing away UA from SIN-SFO.

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by PolarRoute
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean aviation - scandal after scandal
Replies: 10
Views: 2334

Re: Korean aviation - scandal after scandal

Two major FSCs in such a small nation, yet nowhere to really reliably fly on. What a shame. This resulted in Sharp's head killing himself this week It wasn't Sharp's head who committed suicide. It was the head of Hwa-in CS, the subcontractor of OZ responsible of packaging and delivering the inflight...

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by PolarRoute
Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore-Vancouver: “Skyscanner Unserved Route of the Week”
Replies: 21
Views: 3765

Re: Singapore-Vancouver: “Skyscanner Unserved Route of the Week”

And SIN-YVR non stop would need to be premium heavy - and it isn't a premium market in the same way SFO/JFK are for SQ. I get some sense as to why you're saying SFO is not a premium market for SQ, but JFK definitely is; the carrier set up a small subfleet of very premium-configured aircraft just so...

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by PolarRoute
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TOP 10 revenue routes in the world
Replies: 12
Views: 2764

Re: TOP 10 revenue routes in the world

Agreed. This chart should show seat-miles instead of hours, since not all hours are created equally. One hour of an A380 flying from LHR-DXB is worth a lot more than an hour of a 737 flying LAX-JFK. You make a good point, but in this particular chart the cost difference among aircraft types per hou...

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by PolarRoute
Mon May 21, 2018 5:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SilkAir becomes 'Singapore Airlines'
Replies: 103
Views: 25454

Re: SilkAir becomes 'Singapore Airlines'

Would be a perfect chance to update the now-(very) dated Singapore livery! It's the last remaining of my pet livery hates, now that the old Lufthansa one is gone. It's true that the livery is dated, but it has dated rather well. Very well. Still I personally think it has the space to become even be...

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by PolarRoute
Fri May 18, 2018 4:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SilkAir becomes 'Singapore Airlines'
Replies: 103
Views: 25454

Re: SilkAir becomes 'Singapore Airlines'

Wow now that's a news.

I have mixed feelings about this though. While I'm excited to see NB fleet in SQ's livery, the other side of me has a feeling that I'm going to be reminiscent of all-WB fleet of SIA. I thought it was a unique characteristic.

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by PolarRoute
Tue May 15, 2018 5:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Theoretical 777-based replacement for 747?
Replies: 178
Views: 26352

Re: Theoretical 777-based replacement for 747?

Yadda yadda, Boeing could easily throw some first class A+++ maintenance in with the deal along with the discount. Four engines instead of two, no big deal. But still Boeing can't hand out barrels of fuels to the buyers, can they..? What about cargo? The 748 MTOW is 250,000lbs heavier than the 773....

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by PolarRoute
Tue May 15, 2018 1:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Theoretical 777-based replacement for 747?
Replies: 178
Views: 26352

Re: Theoretical 777-based replacement for 747?

Just jumping in to add my consistent point, one which should be obvious but rarely comes up on a.net: VLA's aren't selling because our current offerings are BAD VLA's, not simply because they're VLA's. A380 is an overbuilt shrink of a suboptimal 650-seater; 747-8i uses a 1960's wing with extensions...

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