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by KingB123
Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65874

Re: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure

And why would Germany or the EU care about access for these? So why is LH getting a bailout when its against the EU rules? Germany and the EU should care because if you're willing to flex your rules to save a carrier then lets make the playing field even and get airlines like EK,QR,EY unlimited acc...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65874

Re: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure

any EU airline can access the german market yes but we are not talking about EU airlines here, we are talking about airlines that can't have unlimited access to the market, such as Qatar,Emirates,Etihad And why would germany or the EU care about access for these? So why is LH getting a bailout when...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65874

Re: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure

Eiszeit wrote:
any EU airline can access the german market


yes but we are not talking about EU airlines here, we are talking about airlines that can't have unlimited access to the market, such as Qatar,Emirates,Etihad

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65874

Re: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure

If lufthansa and the German government are working together and asking the EU to bend the rules so that the German government can help lufthansa, then i suggest that the German government also bend their own rules and allow foreign airlines access into more German markets. I am looking at you Luftha...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Easyjet have just secured a £600m government loan. No reason Virgin couldn’t do the same. Virgin actually can’t. Only investment grade airlines can access that loan and virgin is not investment grade There you go , if it’s not good enough for investors , it’s not good enough for the tax payer . End...

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by KingB123
Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1496
Views: 8486

Re: Emirates seeking loans on top of government bailout

I wonder what if the expo gets cancelled. Thats a nail in Dubai and Emirates coffins

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by KingB123
Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

Sokes wrote:
KingB123 wrote:
What an disgusting comment to make

My apologies. Can you formulate it in such a way as not to be disgusting?


By not having a preference on what age group you would like to die.

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by KingB123
Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

This should be compare to WWII, where life would resume after a huge one-off disruption. I believe in WW2 around 50 million people died. I expect the virus may kill anywhere between 30 to 70 million. But then I prefer 100 million dead 80 year old over 20 million 20 year old. The story of the chess ...

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by KingB123
Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

To all of you in this thread posting that VS ought receive additional bailout from the UK government now, let me be very clear: the UK Government will not be bailing out VS, unless its parent shareholders cannot. Or, to put that another way: VS will only receive funding from the UK government (outs...

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by KingB123
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

VS is the largest single competitor to BA long-haul, is it not? Do you think passengers will be happy paying BA prices in an environment with less competition? The British have, IMHO, the wackiest aviation setup of the world's Top 7 economies: 1. The most important airport in the country (LHR) has ...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

If the U.K. government can’t afford to run the health service properly or give disabled people (including veterans) more than £94 a week in benefits, the last thing they should be doing is giving money to heavily polluting industries. This! We've other priorities at the moment, either Virgin raise ...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Government Does Not Plan to Bailout Virgin Australia - Could Create New Airline
Replies: 64
Views: 11117

Re: Australian Government Does Not Plan to Bailout Virgin Australia - Could Create New Airline

Hopefully the UK follows the exact same route as the Ozzie's. Shame regarding the job losses for sure, but a real shame that the company did not bother to help its employees.

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar's unique position in pandemic
Replies: 15
Views: 6297

Re: Qatar's unique position in pandemic

Qatar is making money with the crazy prices it is charging and people are buying them. Also like others mentioned above they have an advantage. They've deep pockets so its no loss to them!

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

VS is being supported by the UK taxpayer, like any other business in the UK: furloughed staff are eligible to have their salary covered at 80% of up to £30,000 pa. Other area of support from Government are available to businesses, but, rightly, only as a last resort and only after all avenues of ot...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

Many Virgin Atlatnic flyers are already moving their points out to other partners like Hilton Hotels. The writing is on the wall. It would be a miracle if this airline survived through this. If Branson can't use his wealth to prop it up (and HE CAN BTW) then good bye VS!

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

You do realize airlines are a low profit margin business? Of course I do, if you play the business right you can make your money. IAG have around £8BILLION in its reserves, enough to last it through the crisis. Others.. Well they've brought it on themselves in poor management and choices (not talki...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

anstar wrote:
Virgin have been loss making for several years now. Why should the government prop up a company that was already losing money in the good times?


Yup just let it float like how they let flybe float. No loss to the UK at all.

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

If Virgin hasnt been able to make profits and build up reserves over all these years , it’s time to let it go ... Wasn't Virgin in the red? (or still is?). I agree, the UK can survive without Virgin, survival of the fittest and no matter how many fan boys on here try to defend it. It's time to put ...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

VS is not critical to UK economy as its routes are covered by other airlines. It should be rescued by its shareholder, not the UK government. VS is the largest single competitor to BA long-haul, is it not? Do you think passengers will be happy paying BA prices in an environment with less competitio...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

Um...what are you on about? The whole point of these bailouts is so that Virgin continues to employ people. How am I ignoring their welfare when I am advocating them keeping their jobs? :confused: Then why is this the responsibility of the UK GOV? Why isn't virgin keeping these people on by pumping...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

The governments have closed the borders and routes etc. They have made business impossible. Compensation should happen. You're having a laugh. Are you serious? Shall we just keep the borders open so that more positive cases flood into the country and infect everyone. Please go read. Not a chance sh...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

Um...what are you on about? The whole point of these bailouts is so that Virgin continues to employ people. How am I ignoring their welfare when I am advocating them keeping their jobs? :confused: Then why is this the responsibility of the UK GOV? Why isn't virgin keeping these people on by pumping...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

It would be extremely short-sighted if VS is deliberately left unsupported. Virgin Atlantic is not in a unique position - as lots of other companies find themselves in the same boat, a solution regarding delayed lease, rent and other payments has to be applied to everyone. If the UK Government does...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

How is that relevant to the current situation? Because those airline employees lost their jobs too thats why its relevant Did they lose their jobs because the air travel market collapsed under them? Hmm wonder how those employees felt when the previous recession hit too. I dont get why you’re defen...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

I will preface by saying my thoughts at this time are with all VS staff. They do not deserve to suffer this uncertainty and I hope the airline pulls through as the country needs more than one airline in the long-haul business and an airline that's prepared to explore markets north of the Watford Ga...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

Virgin is a great airlines. I see a lot of ignorance in this feed. ALL airlines in the UK are currently in discussion with the UK government for support / possibility of bail outs. That includes EasyJet and BA. ALL these airlines have taken cost cutting measures to ensure their survival. It really ...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

Virgin is a great airlines. I see a lot of ignorance in this feed. ALL airlines in the UK are currently in discussion with the UK government for support / possibility of bail outs. That includes EasyJet and BA. ALL these airlines have taken cost cutting measures to ensure their survival. It really ...

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

Persuading the UK to prop up a company owned by a tax-dodging expat sitting on a £4bn pile and a US major with shareholders hungry months to feed, will be difficult. This opinion is popular but a little grating. While SRB had a before crash net worth of £4bn, it is certainly significantly less now....

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by KingB123
Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184531

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

If the ginger at necker island doesn’t want to pay up. Good riddance to Virgin. Our tax payers money needs to spent on our health service during this crisis and not a failing private airline that provides no benefit to the MAJORITY of British Nationals x

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by KingB123
Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 202
Views: 23344

Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

I guess the main reason for not grounding operations of the airline is to take advantage of the temporary void left by the competitors? Based on the loads I don't think Qatar is profitable on the routes it's flying. They also haven't cut any of the staff salary. I think they're doing the flying for...

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by KingB123
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 102
Views: 10982

Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020

bergkampsticket wrote:
KingB123 wrote:
Qatar sent in their B77W tonight!

High demand with repatriation flights?


Yup!

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by KingB123
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 102
Views: 10982

Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020

Qatar sent in their B77W tonight!

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by KingB123
Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020
Replies: 156
Views: 33075

Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Read on twitter that all flights are consolidating at terminal 1 for the time being.

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by KingB123
Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 102
Views: 10982

Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020

Yup especially with the lock down. I dont get why the UK just closes its borders, flights from other countries are coming into EDI. Some are calling this Karma for EDI for all the ripping off they've done!

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by KingB123
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 102
Views: 10982

Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/t ... -covid-19/


The Link doesnt work bud!
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Breathe wrote:
Not happening for a while now as Emirates have just suspended all passenger flights.

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/t ... -covid-19/


The Link doesnt work bud!

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by KingB123
Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Glasgow Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 13
Views: 1758

Re: Glasgow Aviation Thread - 2020

Emirates reducing Glasgow flights down to one daily. Obviously due to the coronavirus. Believe it will be until the 30th of June

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/emirates-expected-suspend-edinburgh-dubai-flights-2503830

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by KingB123
Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 102
Views: 10982

Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020

Emirates suspending Edinburgh operations till 30TH June apparently and the Glasgow flight down to one daily. Obviously due to the coronavirus. However I would not be surprised if Emirates does not come back to Edinburgh. Is there really that much demand to cater Qatar and Emirates. https://www.edinb...

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by KingB123
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 102
Views: 10982

Re: Edinburgh Aviation Thread - 2020

Parts of the airport will now shut down and only 3 retailers will be open. 100 job losses potentially. Put a real dent this corona

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-51964008

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by KingB123
Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LHR terminal moves?
Replies: 38
Views: 11539

Re: LHR terminal moves?

https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2020 ... hin-weeks/


“Terminal 4 is the home of Star Alliance airlines like Korean Air and KLM“


You mean skyteam right?
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chunhimlai wrote:
CarbonFibre wrote:


“Terminal 4 is the home of Star Alliance airlines like Korean Air and KLM“


You mean skyteam right?

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by KingB123
Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet2 to the rescue?
Replies: 32
Views: 5870

Re: Jet2 to the rescue?

A great Airline! they've stopped recruitment of new staff which is understandable.

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by KingB123
Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Honestly its so sad to read this. And here we have airlines in the UK asking for a 7 BILLION pound bailout. Why doesn't IAG spend its 9 BILLION EUROS in its reserve and look after its employees. Its Profit over Employees anyday. And US airlines are seeking $50 billion. Extraordinary times require e...

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by KingB123
Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

And US airlines are seeking $50 billion. Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures. Any support from the government doesn’t have to be a gift and all sorts of conditions can be applied. I’m all in favour of the government helping all businesses in this exceptional situation. You can always...

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by KingB123
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

A friend of mine has just messaged in to say he’s been made redundant from british airways. Honestly its so sad to read this. And here we have airlines in the UK asking for a 7 BILLION pound bailout. Why doesn't IAG spend its 9 BILLION EUROS in its reserve and look after its employees. Its Profit o...

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by KingB123
Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

A friend of mine has just messaged in to say he’s been made redundant from british airways. Honestly its so sad to read this. And here we have airlines in the UK asking for a 7 BILLION pound bailout. Why doesn't IAG spend its 9 BILLION EUROS in its reserve and look after its employees. Its Profit o...

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by KingB123
Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: Discussion: Troubles for European Airline Groups, IAG, AFKLM, LH-Group

IAG have been very explicit that they do not think that state aid should go to airlines. Of course, if VS succeeds in getting aid then you cannot expect BA not to also seek support - that would be foolish. Personally as a UK taxpayer, I'm against VS getting state aid, plenty of other businesses (es...

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by KingB123
Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

A friend of mine has just messaged in to say he’s been made redundant from british airways. Honestly its so sad to read this. And here we have airlines in the UK asking for a 7 BILLION pound bailout. Why doesn't IAG spend its 9 BILLION EUROS in its reserve and look after its employees. Its Profit o...

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by KingB123
Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: Discussion: Troubles for European Airline Groups, IAG, AFKLM, LH-Group

VS is essentially owned by Delta . It should get absolutely nothing from the U.K. tax payer I guess they should just terminate the employees and park the aircraft of the 51% of VS not owned by Delta, right? I guess that 51% of VS is owned by a billionaire and maybe he should perk up instead of aski...

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by KingB123
Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: UK aviation needs £7.5 billion lifeline

It’s not business, it’s a once in a generation global catastrophe. Businesses can not mitigate for this. They will need propping up with public money to avoid untold damage to the very fabric of society for the next decade! Do you want 50% unemployment? Mass defaulting on mortgages etc? The threat ...

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by KingB123
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

That BA is too big too fail doesn't mean full protection for shareholders, bondholders and unsecured creditors. They can - and should be made to - eat it. Assist workers, not shareholders. This! Im getting a lot of heat on the UK airlines asking for £7 billion pound thread because i highlighted the...

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by KingB123
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 337785

Re: UK aviation needs £7.5 billion lifeline

No chance, I as a UK Tax payer refuse to pay for these failing airlines, if they crash they crash. That is business. And the thousands of people employed by those airlines...? Those hefty airline reserves should look after them fine right? Also employee rights and all that? No one wants to see job ...

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