And why would Germany or the EU care about access for these? So why is LH getting a bailout when its against the EU rules? Germany and the EU should care because if you're willing to flex your rules to save a carrier then lets make the playing field even and get airlines like EK,QR,EY unlimited acc...
Jump to postany EU airline can access the german market yes but we are not talking about EU airlines here, we are talking about airlines that can't have unlimited access to the market, such as Qatar,Emirates,Etihad And why would germany or the EU care about access for these? So why is LH getting a bailout when...
Jump to postEiszeit wrote:any EU airline can access the german market
If lufthansa and the German government are working together and asking the EU to bend the rules so that the German government can help lufthansa, then i suggest that the German government also bend their own rules and allow foreign airlines access into more German markets. I am looking at you Luftha...
Jump to postEasyjet have just secured a £600m government loan. No reason Virgin couldn’t do the same. Virgin actually can’t. Only investment grade airlines can access that loan and virgin is not investment grade There you go , if it’s not good enough for investors , it’s not good enough for the tax payer . End...
Jump to postI wonder what if the expo gets cancelled. Thats a nail in Dubai and Emirates coffins
Jump to postSokes wrote:KingB123 wrote:What an disgusting comment to make
My apologies. Can you formulate it in such a way as not to be disgusting?
This should be compare to WWII, where life would resume after a huge one-off disruption. I believe in WW2 around 50 million people died. I expect the virus may kill anywhere between 30 to 70 million. But then I prefer 100 million dead 80 year old over 20 million 20 year old. The story of the chess ...
Jump to postTo all of you in this thread posting that VS ought receive additional bailout from the UK government now, let me be very clear: the UK Government will not be bailing out VS, unless its parent shareholders cannot. Or, to put that another way: VS will only receive funding from the UK government (outs...
Jump to postVS is the largest single competitor to BA long-haul, is it not? Do you think passengers will be happy paying BA prices in an environment with less competition? The British have, IMHO, the wackiest aviation setup of the world's Top 7 economies: 1. The most important airport in the country (LHR) has ...
Jump to postIf the U.K. government can’t afford to run the health service properly or give disabled people (including veterans) more than £94 a week in benefits, the last thing they should be doing is giving money to heavily polluting industries. This! We've other priorities at the moment, either Virgin raise ...
Jump to postHopefully the UK follows the exact same route as the Ozzie's. Shame regarding the job losses for sure, but a real shame that the company did not bother to help its employees.
Jump to postQatar is making money with the crazy prices it is charging and people are buying them. Also like others mentioned above they have an advantage. They've deep pockets so its no loss to them!
Jump to postVS is being supported by the UK taxpayer, like any other business in the UK: furloughed staff are eligible to have their salary covered at 80% of up to £30,000 pa. Other area of support from Government are available to businesses, but, rightly, only as a last resort and only after all avenues of ot...
Jump to postMany Virgin Atlatnic flyers are already moving their points out to other partners like Hilton Hotels. The writing is on the wall. It would be a miracle if this airline survived through this. If Branson can't use his wealth to prop it up (and HE CAN BTW) then good bye VS!
Jump to postYou do realize airlines are a low profit margin business? Of course I do, if you play the business right you can make your money. IAG have around £8BILLION in its reserves, enough to last it through the crisis. Others.. Well they've brought it on themselves in poor management and choices (not talki...
Jump to postanstar wrote:Virgin have been loss making for several years now. Why should the government prop up a company that was already losing money in the good times?
If Virgin hasnt been able to make profits and build up reserves over all these years , it’s time to let it go ... Wasn't Virgin in the red? (or still is?). I agree, the UK can survive without Virgin, survival of the fittest and no matter how many fan boys on here try to defend it. It's time to put ...
Jump to postVS is not critical to UK economy as its routes are covered by other airlines. It should be rescued by its shareholder, not the UK government. VS is the largest single competitor to BA long-haul, is it not? Do you think passengers will be happy paying BA prices in an environment with less competitio...
Jump to postUm...what are you on about? The whole point of these bailouts is so that Virgin continues to employ people. How am I ignoring their welfare when I am advocating them keeping their jobs? :confused: Then why is this the responsibility of the UK GOV? Why isn't virgin keeping these people on by pumping...
Jump to postThe governments have closed the borders and routes etc. They have made business impossible. Compensation should happen. You're having a laugh. Are you serious? Shall we just keep the borders open so that more positive cases flood into the country and infect everyone. Please go read. Not a chance sh...
Jump to postUm...what are you on about? The whole point of these bailouts is so that Virgin continues to employ people. How am I ignoring their welfare when I am advocating them keeping their jobs? :confused: Then why is this the responsibility of the UK GOV? Why isn't virgin keeping these people on by pumping...
Jump to postIt would be extremely short-sighted if VS is deliberately left unsupported. Virgin Atlantic is not in a unique position - as lots of other companies find themselves in the same boat, a solution regarding delayed lease, rent and other payments has to be applied to everyone. If the UK Government does...
Jump to postHow is that relevant to the current situation? Because those airline employees lost their jobs too thats why its relevant Did they lose their jobs because the air travel market collapsed under them? Hmm wonder how those employees felt when the previous recession hit too. I dont get why you’re defen...
Jump to postI will preface by saying my thoughts at this time are with all VS staff. They do not deserve to suffer this uncertainty and I hope the airline pulls through as the country needs more than one airline in the long-haul business and an airline that's prepared to explore markets north of the Watford Ga...
Jump to postVirgin is a great airlines. I see a lot of ignorance in this feed. ALL airlines in the UK are currently in discussion with the UK government for support / possibility of bail outs. That includes EasyJet and BA. ALL these airlines have taken cost cutting measures to ensure their survival. It really ...
Jump to postVirgin is a great airlines. I see a lot of ignorance in this feed. ALL airlines in the UK are currently in discussion with the UK government for support / possibility of bail outs. That includes EasyJet and BA. ALL these airlines have taken cost cutting measures to ensure their survival. It really ...
Jump to postPersuading the UK to prop up a company owned by a tax-dodging expat sitting on a £4bn pile and a US major with shareholders hungry months to feed, will be difficult. This opinion is popular but a little grating. While SRB had a before crash net worth of £4bn, it is certainly significantly less now....
Jump to postIf the ginger at necker island doesn’t want to pay up. Good riddance to Virgin. Our tax payers money needs to spent on our health service during this crisis and not a failing private airline that provides no benefit to the MAJORITY of British Nationals x
Jump to postI guess the main reason for not grounding operations of the airline is to take advantage of the temporary void left by the competitors? Based on the loads I don't think Qatar is profitable on the routes it's flying. They also haven't cut any of the staff salary. I think they're doing the flying for...
Jump to postbergkampsticket wrote:KingB123 wrote:Qatar sent in their B77W tonight!
High demand with repatriation flights?
Read on twitter that all flights are consolidating at terminal 1 for the time being.
Jump to postYup especially with the lock down. I dont get why the UK just closes its borders, flights from other countries are coming into EDI. Some are calling this Karma for EDI for all the ripping off they've done!
Jump to postBreathe wrote:Not happening for a while now as Emirates have just suspended all passenger flights.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/t ... -covid-19/
Emirates reducing Glasgow flights down to one daily. Obviously due to the coronavirus. Believe it will be until the 30th of June
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/emirates-expected-suspend-edinburgh-dubai-flights-2503830
Emirates suspending Edinburgh operations till 30TH June apparently and the Glasgow flight down to one daily. Obviously due to the coronavirus. However I would not be surprised if Emirates does not come back to Edinburgh. Is there really that much demand to cater Qatar and Emirates. https://www.edinb...
Jump to postParts of the airport will now shut down and only 3 retailers will be open. 100 job losses potentially. Put a real dent this corona
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-51964008
chunhimlai wrote:CarbonFibre wrote:Looks like T3 and T4 are closing. https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2020 ... hin-weeks/
“Terminal 4 is the home of Star Alliance airlines like Korean Air and KLM“
A great Airline! they've stopped recruitment of new staff which is understandable.
Jump to postHonestly its so sad to read this. And here we have airlines in the UK asking for a 7 BILLION pound bailout. Why doesn't IAG spend its 9 BILLION EUROS in its reserve and look after its employees. Its Profit over Employees anyday. And US airlines are seeking $50 billion. Extraordinary times require e...
Jump to postAnd US airlines are seeking $50 billion. Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures. Any support from the government doesn’t have to be a gift and all sorts of conditions can be applied. I’m all in favour of the government helping all businesses in this exceptional situation. You can always...
Jump to postA friend of mine has just messaged in to say he’s been made redundant from british airways. Honestly its so sad to read this. And here we have airlines in the UK asking for a 7 BILLION pound bailout. Why doesn't IAG spend its 9 BILLION EUROS in its reserve and look after its employees. Its Profit o...
Jump to postA friend of mine has just messaged in to say he’s been made redundant from british airways. Honestly its so sad to read this. And here we have airlines in the UK asking for a 7 BILLION pound bailout. Why doesn't IAG spend its 9 BILLION EUROS in its reserve and look after its employees. Its Profit o...
Jump to postIAG have been very explicit that they do not think that state aid should go to airlines. Of course, if VS succeeds in getting aid then you cannot expect BA not to also seek support - that would be foolish. Personally as a UK taxpayer, I'm against VS getting state aid, plenty of other businesses (es...
Jump to postA friend of mine has just messaged in to say he’s been made redundant from british airways. Honestly its so sad to read this. And here we have airlines in the UK asking for a 7 BILLION pound bailout. Why doesn't IAG spend its 9 BILLION EUROS in its reserve and look after its employees. Its Profit o...
Jump to postVS is essentially owned by Delta . It should get absolutely nothing from the U.K. tax payer I guess they should just terminate the employees and park the aircraft of the 51% of VS not owned by Delta, right? I guess that 51% of VS is owned by a billionaire and maybe he should perk up instead of aski...
Jump to postIt’s not business, it’s a once in a generation global catastrophe. Businesses can not mitigate for this. They will need propping up with public money to avoid untold damage to the very fabric of society for the next decade! Do you want 50% unemployment? Mass defaulting on mortgages etc? The threat ...
Jump to postThat BA is too big too fail doesn't mean full protection for shareholders, bondholders and unsecured creditors. They can - and should be made to - eat it. Assist workers, not shareholders. This! Im getting a lot of heat on the UK airlines asking for £7 billion pound thread because i highlighted the...
Jump to postNo chance, I as a UK Tax payer refuse to pay for these failing airlines, if they crash they crash. That is business. And the thousands of people employed by those airlines...? Those hefty airline reserves should look after them fine right? Also employee rights and all that? No one wants to see job ...
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