When demand returns, this route is most logically served by DL or LA under their JV arrangement. Whether the cheap fuel and lack of US interior-Brazil service during the 80s/early 90s were the only reasons LAX worked is TBD. Regardless, AA is retreating from most longhaul destinations ex-LAX, and th...
Jump to postBased on a selection of flight searches over the next 30 days, I observe that only DL and AS are commanding a premium for main cabin. AA and UA have relented, largely abandoning basic economy sales after flirting with them a few weeks ago. The fact that DL is blocking seats AND has consistently comm...
Jump to postDL CUN-LAX NOV 1.0>1.4[1.0] DEC 1.4>2[1.0] JAN 1.1>2[1.4] FEB 1.0>2[1.2] MAR 1.1>2[0.9] Interesting they would reduce that LAXCUN has always been a difficult market; many have tried it, most have done poorly. The yields aren't great, and most west coast travelers go to either Hawaii or SJD/PVR/MZT....
Jump to postEl AL really needs to add PHL. Lakewood which is less than an hour away has the second largest Jewish population on the east coast. It includes over 60,000 Jewish people. The trek to PHL is much easier from Lakewood then too EWR or even JFK. It would easily be a money maker on a 787-8 or -9. While ...
Jump to postThe one thing nobody has mentioned JFK has a catch basin of NYC and North while EWR has a catch basin of NYC, Northern NJ, NE PA including Philadelphia all being less than an Hour away By I-95 where they would have to take the Bridge and L.I Expressway to get to JFK. May not seem like much to many ...
Jump to postWhy? There's no exclusivity requirement for the J/V. Regulators wouldn't permit it, if there was. I haven't read the JV docs, but USA services were absent from the press release I saw. It would make no sense for UA to allow its Transatlantic JV partner (LH) to have another arrangement that potentia...
Jump to postAre you certain LH places its code on the SQ flight? This would seem to complicate LH’s Atlantic JV with UA. Why? There's no exclusivity requirement for the J/V. Regulators wouldn't permit it, if there was. I haven't read the JV docs, but USA services were absent from the press release I saw. It wo...
Jump to postEWR is the choice for Manhattan as it is closer to the NYC financial district. At JFK, SQ relies heavily on B6 feed as well as that LH codeshare/JV. The EWR relevance to finance is vastly overrated on a.net. “Wall Street” has progressively gravitated to east midtown for many years, where the concen...
Jump to postSQ and LH have a joint venture, and I suspect that this is a back-door way for LH to shoehorn in a third daily flight to JFK. It's timed to have minimal layover at FRA and arrive back in SIN for SQ's morning bank. This is also why, in the winter season, it's not important to have first class on the...
Jump to postWhile I don’t discount the film ties, DL also knows more broadly where its FFs/corporate flyers driving LAX POS live and work, and growing market strength in LAX POS in no small part supports incremental adds at secondary airports in the basin. Some traffic will be growth, some will cannibalize ATL-...
Jump to postFSDan wrote:
LAX-LHR (switched to all-VS)
MIA-LHR
acentauri wrote:TYSflyer wrote:Are you really saying that rather than flying direct through PHL, Charleston flyers will drive 400 miles round trip to CLT or 600 miles round trip to Atlanta? I doubt it.
The fares were much lower on JFK-LGB, and relatively high on JFK-SNA. AA killed JFK-LGB because, in part, JFK-LGB was stealing passengers from JFK-SNA. AA dumped capacity at low fares on both routes, and they had zero strategic interest in operating either of them. Both routes were cancelled once i...
Jump to postAA did it solely to punish B6 upon its entry into LGB (AA also added JFK-LGB). HP also flew it, and DL has tried before, I think. UA may have a a strong premium following at SNA, but there are many FFs willing to drive to LAX for the premium transcons on AA and DL to JFK. I don't recall America Wes...
Jump to postJeez, DL lasted on JFK-SNA about as long as AA lasted on JFK-DEN. Or as long as AA lasted on JFK-SNA. They operated this route with 757s in the mid-2000s. It didn't work. TWA also did it. SNA-JFK has been done at least three times that I know of. AA did it solely to punish B6 upon its entry into LG...
Jump to post10x on CHA-ATL is alot of frequency, especially since this route has seen a ton of up gauging in recent years. I remember when it was all CRJ's, now they have MD88's, CR9's and CRJ's. Nice growth in a smaller market. Not sure how much more capacity CHA as an airport can absorb, they are busting at ...
Jump to postfactsonly wrote:Some historic TATL 5th freedoms from AMS:
- AMS-LAX - LH B707/B747
Sabena first flew BRU-ATL starting June 1, 1978 with 707's https://www.sunshineskies.com/atlanta-late70s.html Thanks! Per your link DL was indeed first, with LGW commencing in April 1978. Thinking back, it was 1987 not 1985 that I recalled considering the Sabena/BCal codeshare (I was 15 and ended u...
Jump to postSure people are connecting in HNL to go from the mainland USA to the likes of AKL or PPT. I’ve know people who have done that. The connections are often very convenient. And sometimes, they are not convenient, but the price is right. Traveling as group of 8, we saved over $600 per ticket o/w by tra...
Jump to postI go back a ways and remember when Brussels was one of, if not, the first, European destinations served from Atlanta. That was of course back in the Sabena days. Then Delta got London and the rest is history. Not sure when Sabena started service to ATL, but I'm certain that as of 1985, Sabena flew ...
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