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by EBT
Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 297
Views: 31921

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

I am surprised however we haven’t seen more 789 ordered, perhaps Boeing is linking a rehash of the 789 prices with a sunrise order? In my view its because QF is managing its debt ratings and won't go and throw a bunch of debt commitment on balance sheet that tanks that rating. They'll drip feed it ...

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by EBT
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Air Asia ordering 12 A330neo and 30 A321xlr instead of previously announced but not confirmed 34 A330neo's
Replies: 94
Views: 16194

Re: AirAsia to firm up A330neos + A321xlr order/conversion

Many people here are saying that the A321XLR should be used on 8-9 hour flights which in theory sounds good but in reality the longer you fly a narrow body aircraft offering LCC fare levels, the higher your chances of making net losses + your break even seat factor % is higher too. The A321XLR is a...

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by EBT
Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters For DL And UA
Replies: 89
Views: 10504

Re: How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters.

Furthermore, I would add that in the case of most LCCs, cargo doesn't factor at all in their route planning decisions. From my experience, in some it is a "nice to have", but if the economics don't stack up from the passengers, cargo isn't going to swing it. I daresay that for most routes ...

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by EBT
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Moxy - News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 477
Views: 75364

Re: GE to finance first 9 Moxie aircraft

GECAS actually finances a wide range of aircraft with non-GE engines nowadays, including a healthy amount of IAE-powered A320 family aircraft. Sure, they support their own product, but first and foremost they act as a bank taking bets on which aircraft they think have a long-term future in the marke...

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by EBT
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1494
Views: 273785

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

The uncle of my wife's best friend's auntie works at the company that makes the little aeroplane models on plinths. They just received a rush order for A350s in QF colours. Order to be delivered next week. Just sayin'! Happy Weekend everyone! :bouncy: It's always hard to tell with some of these rum...

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by EBT
Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1494
Views: 273785

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

PER-LHR shows QF will fly cargo too. So not too much below deck space. Volume is needed (which is weight and drag). I believe the business case drives this, as many have noted. This will be a pencil sharpening deal fought to the end. Lightsaber Joyce has said that they won't carry freight on SYD/ME...

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by EBT
Fri May 24, 2019 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda to close London again, reduce Amsterdam
Replies: 55
Views: 12898

Re: Garuda to close London again, reduce Amsterdam

Nope, no 787 orders. They did sign a LoI back in the 2015 Paris Air Show for 30 787-9s and 30 A350-900s, but those never materialized. What they do have on order are 14 A330-900neos. At the risk of taking the discussion down a rabbit hole, expect a small 787 order may come in to make up for the &qu...

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by EBT
Wed May 08, 2019 1:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767: Fuselage size always limited profitability??
Replies: 86
Views: 10379

Re: Boeing 767: Fuselage size always limited profitability??

1) Not exclusively - some charter/holiday operators did squeeze in 2-4-2 seating in the 767. I never experienced it, but it seems it would be incredibly tight. 2) Going wider would have meant a larger airframe, which means more weight and drag. At the time the 767 and 757 were conceived (they were a...

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by EBT
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Firefly Singapore Ops
Replies: 18
Views: 2604

Re: Firefly Singapore Ops

Basically all Firefly ATR flights to Singapore stopped in December after the airline couldn't meet the deadline to move to all turboprop operators from Changi to Seletar. There has been a bit of a dispute between Singapore and Malaysia over plans to install an ILS at Seletar, because of the potentia...

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by EBT
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China will stop granting new 737 Max 8 airworthiness certificate
Replies: 56
Views: 13799

Re: China will stop granting new 737 Max 8 airworthiness certificate

I love the generalisations about China being thrown around here. I can't speak for other industries, but their air safety has been consistently strong, and has been improving. The Max mess could actually see CAAC leapfrog the FAA when it comes to certification oversight. While there wasn't "evi...

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by EBT
Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no non-stop Qantas flight to PEK&PVG from MEL?
Replies: 38
Views: 4334

Re: Why no non-stop Qantas flight to PEK&PVG from MEL?

Simple logic - under the JV, MU picks up the low-yielding, high volume traffic and Qantas picks up the Western-focused passengers that can and choose to pay more. Both get upside from transferring passengers on their respective domestic networks. Qantas doesn't have to use up the little spare widebo...

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by EBT
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 387603

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

At least one - FLY Leasing - had said publicly that it was giving Jet until the end of the month to sort out the restructuring plan, and if not they were going to take back their three 737-800s. It's not the easiest thing to do in India, but FLY's aircraft are managed by BBAM who have been able to d...

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by EBT
Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Boeing to increase 787-9 MTOW by 2.5 tonne
Replies: 123
Views: 25865

Re: Rumour: Boeing to increase 787-9 MTOW by 2.5 tonne

I fell it's important to point out that for Air NZ, this decision is probably more focused on where they see their market opportunities in the future than it is around the aircraft that will get them there. As their CFO Jeff McDowall said last year, the 777X/789/78X combo could open up new longhaul ...

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by EBT
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: AirAsia not going to invest in Nok Air
Replies: 16
Views: 3275

Re: AirAsia in talks to buy stake in Nok Air

According to a Nok statement to the stock exchange, AirAsia aren't the only ones sniffing around the Jurangkool family's controlling stake in the airline. Not sure who the other parties might be, but I guess you couldn't rule out Lion. Nok announced some time back plans to move a couple of 738s to N...

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by EBT
Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JAL longhaul LCC = ZIPAIR
Replies: 120
Views: 18526

Re: JAL longhaul LCC = ZIPAIR

Oh dear, i can see this working out real well for JAL. Long haul and LCC just dont go together. Ah, but in Asia Pacific they do. Jetstar pioneered it in 2006, followed by AirAsia X and Scoot thereafter. Sure, they aren't exactly raking it in, but the longhaul LCC genie is well out of the bottle, an...

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by EBT
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JAL longhaul LCC = ZIPAIR
Replies: 120
Views: 18526

Re: JAL longhaul LCC = ZIPAIR

Yes, JAL and Qantas both hold a 33% stake in Jetstar Japan. Back when it was established, Qantas did talk about potentially sending some widebodies to Jetstar Japan. But the way I read the tea leaves at the time, JAL wasn't really convinced about the potential of LCCs and basically just came along t...

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by EBT
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JAL longhaul LCC = ZIPAIR
Replies: 120
Views: 18526

Re: JAL longhaul LCC = ZIPAIR

Oh dear, i can see this working out real well for JAL. Long haul and LCC just dont go together. Ah, but in Asia Pacific they do. Jetstar pioneered it in 2006, followed by AirAsia X and Scoot thereafter. Sure, they aren't exactly raking it in, but the longhaul LCC genie is well out of the bottle, an...

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by EBT
Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't Cathay Pacific order the 787?
Replies: 42
Views: 8274

Re: Why didn't Cathay Pacific order the 787?

This question was probably asked a million times but can't seem to find answers. But why did CX not order the B787? At the time of the decision, forum member zeke , who flies for CX, noted that one of the factors that influenced CX to choose the A350 was they wished to offer a common passenger expe...

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by EBT
Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 879
Views: 138954

Re: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A350, Boeing 787 for 777-9

Airbus haven't shifted yet to firesale pricing because otherwise BA would have a dozen on their order books by now. The mere fact that EK has enough on order to keep the line going would keep Airbus from doing this. But once that prospect is gone, the mentality will shift. About DL, sure the bigges...

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by EBT
Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: why didn't LY order 748s
Replies: 42
Views: 5737

Re: why didn't LY order 748s

A grand total of 3 airlines have bought the 747-8i. Three. That's it. You might as well have asked why the rest of the world didn't buy it, and there are (at least) 4 good reasons: 1) Most of the airlines who bought the 747-400 did so mainly for range, and then took an impact on the yield to fill t...

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by EBT
Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2019
Replies: 504
Views: 75336

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - January 2019

Highlights: QF's PER-LHR. Still amazes me that we are non-stop to England. VA's PER-HBA service. Seems to be doing better than I though it would, just a shame it wasn't QF for one stop to LHR. Lowlights: That HBA still doesn't have an INTL service after they spent a small fortune on the runway exte...

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by EBT
Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:57 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which Chinese airline will order A330neo first?
Replies: 45
Views: 6044

Re: Which Chinese airline will order A330neo first?

Not to discount the ability of the A330neo, but orders by the Big Three will be linked to diplomatic moves between China and the EU. So look out for any state visits by French/German leaders to Beijing or vice versa, or a big 'Belt and Road' event for an order to be announced.

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by EBT
Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of HNA’s Hong Kong Airlines in Doubt
Replies: 42
Views: 10812

Re: Future of HNA’s Hong Kong Airlines in Doubt

Not sure how things works for an airline with an existing AOC, as airlines based in Hong Kong cannot be majority held by a foreign entity (at least initially I guess), which is why HX was initially 45% held by HNA and 55% by Mung Kin-Keung, who has HKID and thus, is consider "from Hong Kong&qu...

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by EBT
Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Status of PW6000 A318 Fleet?
Replies: 21
Views: 3868

Re: Status of PW6000 A318 Fleet?

I have access to Flight Fleets Analyzer and that shows there are still seven PW6000-powered A318s in service (+ two in storage) but only with one troubled operator - Avianca Brazil. All of those are owned by Airbus Financial Services, which I am guessing are not as keen as the other lessors to take ...

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by EBT
Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Has BA been too slow with fleet renewals
Replies: 78
Views: 11528

Re: Has BA been too slow with fleet renewals

I think there is a gluten of widebodies. BA should be able to negotiate good prices on the 777X, new 787s, and should consider both the A350 and 797 when launched. Yes, it is a fuel price bet. Lightsaber No wonder there is a market for NMA with so many airlines gluten widebody intolerant...sorry, I...

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by EBT
Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fiji and OW Connect
Replies: 7
Views: 1260

Re: Fiji and OW Connect

Yes, there will be a 'Oneworld Connect logo' that Fiji's fleet will wear near the boarding door, as shown below. This was revealed during the press conference at the IATA AGM earlier this year

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by EBT
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France to halve its A380 fleet
Replies: 254
Views: 49037

Re: Air France to halve its A380 fleet

The fundamental problem with VLAs is that while they offer great CASM, they also have huge risk. Consider that most routes in the world are seasonal, so if your fleet is hitched to an A380, the economics may work great at peak seasons, but are absolutely killed during the off-peaks. If you're a rout...

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by EBT
Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 387603

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

Lets not forget they have links with DL group and EY group. Everyone thinks TATA's are their only hope. As if only TATA's can save them. Many naysers on this forum for sure. Many with so much confidence of their demise. On the contrary people from the industry, like SG owner Mr.Singh expressed more...

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by EBT
Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Airbus considering A330NEO Regional
Replies: 97
Views: 16725

Re: Bloomberg: Airbus considering A330NEO Regional

The A330ceo Regional did well in China -though probably at end of line pricing. Word is that Asian airlines would prefer a MoM with better freight capacity than what Boeing may have in mind for the 797 to meet US needs, a requirement that the 330 can meet. JAL will shortly be deploying A350s for do...

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by EBT
Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Airbus considering A330NEO Regional
Replies: 97
Views: 16725

Re: Bloomberg: Airbus considering A330NEO Regional

The A330ceo Regional did well in China -though probably at end of line pricing. Word is that Asian airlines would prefer a MoM with better freight capacity than what Boeing may have in mind for the 797 to meet US needs, a requirement that the 330 can meet. JAL will shortly be deploying A350s for do...

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by EBT
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 387603

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

The only way to get out of bad publicity is to pay off media, kind of difficult when cash flow is tight and not able to pay own employees in full. Wow, that is at best a very naive comment, or quite inflammatory. If paying off the media made all the difference, better add in the credit ratings agen...

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by EBT
Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SIA Group network changes; Silk xfer 17 routes and 737NGs to Scoot; drops HNL service
Replies: 48
Views: 9356

Re: SIA Group network changes; Silk xfer 17 routes and 737NGs to Scoot; drops HNL service

Not sure if this is a good idea at all in long run for TZ to take over some of the regional route where SQ Group has spent past 30 years building up significant premium travelers through MI. Those travelling ex-Singapore will lost access to J cabin to BKI, BPN, JOG, CNX, and host of other secondary...

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by EBT
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas CEO dials back on expectations for Project Sunrise Jet
Replies: 145
Views: 32188

Re: Qantas CEO dials back on expectations for Project Sunrise Jet

At the risk of further thread drift, I was talking with someone in the know, and it seems that most passengers ex-Per on the London nonstop choose to go back via an Asian hub, so it's not exactly balanced...yet. A lot can happen in a few years, but I tend to agree that the PER-LHR service would not ...

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by EBT
Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will anyone pickup the JetBlue E190s?
Replies: 65
Views: 10531

Re: Will anyone pickup the JetBlue E190s?

I imagine that a few will end up at the scrappers, but not because there is much inherently wrong with the E-Jets E1 series. Rather, Embraer missed a trick on not having a spares pool programme, so there are some smart cookies that are creating their own from torn down jets where the major parts sti...

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by EBT
Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic eyes non-stop Perth
Replies: 83
Views: 16848

Re: Virgin Atlantic eyes non-stop Perth

...but what do the other shareholders - Delta and Air France-KLM - think about it? Current ownership of VS: DL 49%, AF-KLM 31% and SRB 20%. What are the ownership percentages of VA? Delta has a JV agreement (but not an equity investment) and could benefit by a stronger VA. Per VA's last annual repo...

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by EBT
Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic eyes non-stop Perth
Replies: 83
Views: 16848

Re: Virgin Atlantic eyes non-stop Perth

It's all well and good for Sir Richard to float a thought bubble, but what do the other shareholders - Delta and Air France-KLM - think about it? Given that Delta's guiding hand has really shrunk Virgin into a mostly transatlantic carrier, I can't see them really up for taking a risk on a 'marquee' ...

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by EBT
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: XiamenAir could place an $18 billion USD deal with Airbus
Replies: 20
Views: 6250

Re: XiamenAir could place an $18 billion USD deal with Airbus

I expect with Airshow China in Zhuhai coming up in a couple of weeks' time that we will see this announced, even if it is just an MOU. I expect things will be a little more muted on the Boeing side of things.

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by EBT
Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:22 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Qantas future longhaul routes
Replies: 53
Views: 8498

Re: Qantas future longhaul routes

I can't find any reasons for QF to start BNE-SEA, is there any O&D traffic? I believe SYD makes more sense. If QF wants to start the second routes to US from BNE, they can try SFO or DFW. Alan Joyce hinted in August that SEA would be underpinned by feed from Alaska Airlines, and seems to be the...

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by EBT
Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Sydney Airport - Construction started, what's the plan?
Replies: 41
Views: 5266

Re: Western Sydney Airport - Construction started, what's the plan?

Interesting that the Tourism and Transport Forum, airlines and the airport itself have been campaigning to relax the operating restrictions at Kingsford-Smith. The way the 80 movements per hour cap is enforced is daft, with it effectively broken up into 15 minute blocks that cannot see movements mov...

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by EBT
Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MAS 787 MOU with Boeing lapses
Replies: 29
Views: 6722

Re: MAS 787 MOU with Boeing lapses

Seems to make perfect sense to me, replace two types - A330 and A350 - with one, essentially the 787-9. This isn't a commentary on the attributes of each type, but a fleet revolving around 737s and 787s would be a nice simplification for MH at a time when they are struggling. replacing brand new 35...

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by EBT
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did QF purchase two 747-400s from MH and one from OZ
Replies: 36
Views: 11354

Re: Why did QF purchase two 747-400s from MH and one from OZ

QF also leased a BA 744 at this time also VH-NLH (never leaves the hangar) - operated in a hybrid livery with BA config. I remember that aircraft. According to the Qantas Source, it spent nearly two and half years with QF, from November 2000 to March 2003. Wouldn’t the oddball configuration and dif...

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by EBT
Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ARJ21s to enter African market via Ghana’s Africa World Airlines as part of HNA-COMAC MoU
Replies: 25
Views: 3527

Re: ARJ21s to enter African market via Ghana’s Africa World Airlines as part of HNA-COMAC MoU

It's all about HNA currying favour with Beijing and getting them to release some of the controls that banks have put on lending to HNA. Sure, AWA may take some ARJ21s, as will African government that are under pressure to or have them gifted to them. But that won't make it a commercial success. Long...

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by EBT
Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Cargo planes - Why so popular?
Replies: 20
Views: 5356

Re: Boeing Cargo planes - Why so popular?

On the A320 conversion, there is the small challenge of having to relocate some of the AoA and airspeed sensors as their wiring goes straight through the cut-in for the cargo door. That's why the early proposals for conversion saw the door go in the rear fuselage, but I'm guessing that would have me...

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by EBT
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A100, Fliegerfaust. Airbus might buy & upgrade CRJ line.
Replies: 139
Views: 29634

Re: Airbus A100, Fliegerfaust. Airbus might buy & upgrade CRJ line.

I don't see why Airbus would look to sell its ATR share, ATRs are commercialy successful. And if Airbus buy all the Bombardier commercial offer like speculated, the Q400 would be out, leaving ATR almost alone on its market. Simple reason - they do not want to invest any further in ATR to build a la...

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by EBT
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A100, Fliegerfaust. Airbus might buy & upgrade CRJ line.
Replies: 139
Views: 29634

Re: Airbus A100, Fliegerfaust. Airbus might buy & upgrade CRJ line.

Purely in the realms of speculation, but I have long suspected that the CSeries deal was only the thin edge of the wedge for BBD and Airbus. The way I see it, the Beaudoins are probably looking for a long-term exit path from commercial aviation and Airbus is looking to expand its product offering. I...

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by EBT
Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:26 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: ULCC and LD3 containers
Replies: 8
Views: 1294

Re: ULCC and LD3 containers

Having worked for an airline that has the 'mini cans' on A320s, those in the right places told me that the real reason they chose to go with them was due to cost and occupational health and safety. As the A320 is taller, for bulk loading they would have required someone to stay on the ground solely ...

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by EBT
Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas PER-LHR reporting extremely high load factors, now QF’s most profitable route
Replies: 145
Views: 29336

Re: Qantas PER-LHR reporting extremely high load factors, now QF’s most profitable route

Has Perth-LAX been announced yet? It is only 300miles further than PER-LHR according to GCMAP. After London, Los Angeles must be the next most demanded long distance route from Perth. I often thought that maybe a 4pw PER-ADL-LAX could work, but agree there are other priorities that will come first....

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by EBT
Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Australia reports underlying $109m profit, converts 10 737MAX8 to 10 737MAX10
Replies: 24
Views: 4870

Re: Virgin Australia reports underlying $109m profit, converts 10 737MAX8 to 10 737MAX10

I think there is more competition in routes such as MEL-HKG and SYD-HKG where there are strong competitors such as Cathay Pacific and Qantes, in addition to the fact that both are from the same alliance and from both strong territories ONEWORLD, VA has already done very well. good load factors, the...

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by EBT
Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Australia reports underlying $109m profit, converts 10 737MAX8 to 10 737MAX10
Replies: 24
Views: 4870

Re: Virgin Australia reports $109m profit, orders MAX10

How is the DL-VA JV defined? Does DL have a equity investment in VA? Is it just code share? It seems VA will continue to be challenged by its small size especially on international. Who are the major investors? No DL is purely a JV no equity share. Major investors - SQ, EY, and HNA group. I’m no fi...

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