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by MikeDrop
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump wants to buy Greenland
Replies: 103
Views: 3478

Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland

That’s not what he wrote at all. I suggest a re-read. It’s a direct quote. Perhaps you meant to say that’s not what he meant? Mike Drop You put words in his mouth - ‘we should be happy’ and then failed to address his actual point - which was an obvious double standard between Russian investments in...

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by MikeDrop
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump wants to buy Greenland
Replies: 103
Views: 3478

Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland

You really mean to tell me that we cannot allow Greenland to open itself up to Russian or Chinese wmining and development..... For the last 3 years you have been saying that the Russians are our enemies, and that Trump is a Russian agent. Now they are good and we should be happy about the prospect ...

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by MikeDrop
Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump wants to buy Greenland
Replies: 103
Views: 3478

Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland

You really mean to tell me that we cannot allow Greenland to open itself up to Russian or Chinese wmining and development..... For the last 3 years you have been saying that the Russians are our enemies, and that Trump is a Russian agent. Now they are good and we should be happy about the prospect ...

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by MikeDrop
Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Whom will be the Republican candidate when Trump drops out?
Replies: 40
Views: 1188

Re: Whom will be the Republican candidate when Trump drops out?

“OH MY GOD, THIS JACKASS”: THE MOOCH EXPLAINS WHY HE THINKS TRUMP IS “CRAZY,” “NARCISSISTIC,” AND A “PAPER TIGER” WHO WILL DROP OUT BY MARCH 2020 Link to interview with Anthony Scaramucci So how does that work if Trump actually drops out in March next year, as Scaramucci predicts? Whom will be on t...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump wants to buy Greenland
Replies: 103
Views: 3478

Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland

seb146 wrote:
When did I say anything about race?


seb146 wrote:
It baffles me that he regularly puts out crazy and racist and non onsensical things on the OFFICIAL presidential social media accounts but MAGA fan boys dismiss it.


The word racist is present in the statement that you just quoted. LOL

Mike Drop

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump wants to buy Greenland
Replies: 103
Views: 3478

Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland

It baffles me that he regularly puts out crazy and racist and nonsensical things on the OFFICIAL presidential social media accounts but MAGA fan boys dismiss it. This wasn’t put out on any official twitter page, Trump hasn’t actually said anything about it, besides the anonymous allegations, and I’...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump wants to buy Greenland
Replies: 103
Views: 3478

Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland

Actually, this is incorrect. This is not “news”. It is an anonymous allegation or rumor. And it is incorrect to say that the rumor is that Trump wants to buy Greenland. The rumor is that he asked about it with various levels of seriousness. Pretty thin stuff to be getting all worked up over, but it...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump wants to buy Greenland
Replies: 103
Views: 3478

Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland

Has anyone actually asked President Trump if he said this? Has anyone asked if this is policy? Not as far as I can tell. We live in a world, Mike, where there is news that the US president wants to buy Greenland and almost everyone says, yeah sure, the current US president might have said that, why...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump wants to buy Greenland
Replies: 103
Views: 3478

Re: Trump wants to buy Greenland

Trump have asked several times his advisors if he can't buy Greenland ... https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-eyes-a-new-real-estate-purchase-greenland-11565904223?mod=hp_lead_pos5 Trump is visiting Denmark soon. Hopefully the Danes are smart and say no .. This is truly amazing. Trump plans on visit...

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by MikeDrop
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: CNN Chris Cuomo loses it over "Fredo"
Replies: 68
Views: 2398

Re: CNN Chris Cuomo loses it over "Fredo"

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Would Chris Cuomo be given a Red Flag for his recent rant? Filthy language and a total loss of control. He shouldn’t be allowed to have any weapon. He’s nuts! 9:04 AM · Aug 13, 2019·Twitter for iPhone https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1161277403353759744 Cla...

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by MikeDrop
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: CNN Chris Cuomo loses it over "Fredo"
Replies: 68
Views: 2398

Re: CNN Chris Cuomo loses it over "Fredo"

casinterest wrote:
I hope someone calls you a racist slur when you are out with your kids. That will be ok right?
So Pathetic.

When everything becomes racist, then nothing is racist...

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by MikeDrop
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:34 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Only a matter of time...Trump turns on Fox News
Replies: 46
Views: 4016

Re: Only a matter of time...Trump turns on Fox News

I think the president's economic impact should be graded based on the deficit.... Tugg All presidents or just Trump? Mike Drop Each POTUS takes overhyped credit (or runs from bad news) in different ways - but they don’t control the economy. The Trump WH is claiming that unemployment numbers and inf...

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by MikeDrop
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:16 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

"Sick" and "outrageous" are words you've used to describe people discussing mass shootings. This is not true. I called the jokes and attempts to take advantage of these tragedies by you and others here to push your political agendas sick and outrageous. I stand by this. So why n...

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by MikeDrop
Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Only a matter of time...Trump turns on Fox News
Replies: 46
Views: 4016

Re: Only a matter of time...Trump turns on Fox News

Considering the level of negative coverage on the economy across most networks and given the fact that the economy is literally doing better right now than ever before, that's a pretty rich statement. Not this again. First the silly notion any POTUS ‘controls’ the economy. Second, by what measure -...

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by MikeDrop
Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

OMG stop it already with the drama. So which is it Mike? Are mass shootings sick and something needs to be done? Or is it all good with you? Right, you quote only a portion of my reply to the posters text and leave off where he accuses Republicans of being white supremacists who are using mass shoo...

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by MikeDrop
Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:24 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

Sick What's sick is the refusal to do anything about mass shootings apart from offering "thoughts and prayers". How's that for sick? Absolutely sick attitude from the Conservatives and the height of Hypocrisy. Power is the name of the game, and they are willing to sacrifice many more live...

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by MikeDrop
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

Mass shooters there get bored trying to find people to shoot! :lol: Jokes about mass shootings... nice Mike Drop Well, it's tragically hilarious. 1 - Mass shootings keep happening. 2 - Do nothing about it (apart from thoughts and prayers). 3 - Wonder why mass shootings keep happening. It's hilariou...

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by MikeDrop
Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

Your answer to slowing mass shootings is to do nothing. We know why these things happen: access to military grade weapons. In some cases, there is a mental health issue. But, in every single case, it is ease of access to high powered weapons. But we can't do anything about it so let's just sit back...

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by MikeDrop
Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NRA warns Trump against universal background checks
Replies: 66
Views: 2965

Re: NRA warns Trump against universal background checks

And, yes, it is a joke because the only thing Republicans do is throw up their hands and tell us it is weed, video games, abortion, and gays that cause mass shootings. It is a huge joke to the Republican Party. Perfect example of Jokes and Agendas. You must have dug pretty deep into the whacked out...

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by MikeDrop
Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

Mass shooters there get bored trying to find people to shoot! :lol: Jokes about mass shootings... nice Mike Drop Your answer to slowing mass shootings is to do nothing. We know why these things happen: access to military grade weapons. In some cases, there is a mental health issue. But, in every si...

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by MikeDrop
Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NRA warns Trump against universal background checks
Replies: 66
Views: 2965

Re: NRA warns Trump against universal background checks

Ask the families of the El Paso victims or the parents of the Sandy Hook kids. They're so thankful. So now you are somber and serious? You were making jokes about "Mass shooters" on the other thread. Mass shooters there get bored trying to find people to shoot! :lol: Somehow I think you l...

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by MikeDrop
Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

scbriml wrote:
Mass shooters there get bored trying to find people to shoot! :lol:

Jokes about mass shootings... nice

Mike Drop

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

Yes, Mike, what is your point? No point in the question. I just wanted to gain some understanding about you and avoid making an assumption. Now that I understand more about you I have this question: Why do you spend so much time commenting on things in the US that have nothing to do you or your cou...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

Fine, my bad, I misinterpreted things, but see how fast you can misinterpret situations like this in this day and age? And see how dangerous that can be if everybody is armed and their first response is to take a gun and point it at someone? If I recall correctly you don’t live in the US and are no...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri
Replies: 80
Views: 2945

Re: Armed off-duty firefighter halts armed suspect at Walmart store in Missouri

Sorry, he was a firefighter, right? Not a trained officer. So it basically it doesn't matter what his profession is, he is a civilian whom intervened in an armed robbery and luckily nobody got hurt by an amateur. Sorry, a perfect example of what should not happen. In this case, it ended good, but w...

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by MikeDrop
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Biden says he's coming for assault weapons
Replies: 89
Views: 2546

Re: Biden says he's coming for assault weapons

Thanks for asking, and to anyone else who would like to better understand my positions on firearms or terminology, etc, please ask! As Okie pointed out in the post above this, the A in AR-15 actually stands for Armalite, the company that first developed the platform. There are many other things I c...

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by MikeDrop
Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Biden says he's coming for assault weapons
Replies: 89
Views: 2546

Re: Biden says he's coming for assault weapons

I still think there is a lot to learn. The AR-15 platform is popular because of its ability to greatly modified. Did you know you can actually have a pistol AR-15? I know because I made one. It's in my safe right now as I write this. There are strict ATF rules that govern such things. .223 AR-15s a...

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by MikeDrop
Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:33 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead
Replies: 209
Views: 8014

Re: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead

I hear Trump and Republicans saying that white supremacy isn't a threat Not quite correct: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wY7P0ETDfls This was about two weeks ago. Mike Drop When asked if he saw White Nationalism as a growing threat in March 2019, Trump said 'I don't really. I think it's a small gro...

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by MikeDrop
Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:04 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead
Replies: 209
Views: 8014

Re: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead

And the right is using debunked propaganda of video games to support continued mass shootings. How many mass shootings have there been in video game obsessed Japan? Or Europe where they have video games? Or Australia where they have video games? Or Canada? White supremacy and ease of access to guns...

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by MikeDrop
Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:03 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead
Replies: 209
Views: 8014

Re: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wY7P0ETDfls

This was about two weeks ago.

Mike Drop
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Concierge wrote:
I hear Trump and Republicans saying that white supremacy isn't a threat


Not quite correct: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wY7P0ETDfls

This was about two weeks ago.

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by MikeDrop
Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Another mass shooting in El Paso
Replies: 140
Views: 6309

Re: Another mass shooting in El Paso

You know what's worse than a weak country? A weak country that doesn't admit it's weak and does nothing to try to improve itself. That is how I see the USA. So what country are you from? Do yo live in the USA or are you a foreigner? Mike Drop I live in the USA. If anyone wants to label me un-Americ...

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by MikeDrop
Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Another mass shooting in El Paso
Replies: 140
Views: 6309

Re: Another mass shooting in El Paso

af773atmsp wrote:
You know what's worse than a weak country? A weak country that doesn't admit it's weak and does nothing to try to improve itself. That is how I see the USA.

So what country are you from? Do yo live in the USA or are you a foreigner?

Mike Drop

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by MikeDrop
Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead
Replies: 209
Views: 8014

Re: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead

I don’t care who the guy voted for; the only shaming to do is the fact that, seeing how these things keep happening, that still nothing significant has changed. If it’s broken, FIX IT. There’s plenty that could be done before you even have to resort to banning a certain type of gun (nationalizing e...

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by MikeDrop
Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Another mass shooting in El Paso
Replies: 140
Views: 6309

Re: Sweet! Another mass shooting in El Paso

Mental health treatment. Would be nice, except congress removed Obama era mental health gun control regulations. What regulations were that? The only ones I recall was that those that received social security were no longer banned from owning outright. I bought multiple firearms during his tenure a...

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by MikeDrop
Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead
Replies: 209
Views: 8014

Re: Mass Shooting in Dayton, 10 Dead

I don’t care who the guy voted for; the only shaming to do is the fact that, seeing how these things keep happening, that still nothing significant has changed. If it’s broken, FIX IT. There’s plenty that could be done before you even have to resort to banning a certain type of gun (nationalizing e...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Reagan's Daughter: Forgive my Dad for Racist Comments
Replies: 36
Views: 2208

Re: Reagan's Daughter: Forgive my Dad for Racist Comments

"“To see those, those monkeys from those African countries,” he told Nixon in the audio. “Damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes.”" https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ronald-reagan-daughter-patti-davis-racist-comment-215153907.html Of course this isn't news to Libs who know/knew...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump begins attack on Cities
Replies: 110
Views: 3699

Re: Trump begins attack on Cities

In a move his base will love, today Trump issued a broadside attack on what are essentially black people living in inner cities and no doubt the programs that administer the services provided them. Trump escalates attacks on Baltimore and other cities — says federal funds have been ‘stolen,’ ‘waste...

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by MikeDrop
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:43 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'
Replies: 29
Views: 1219

Re: Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims 'entirely divorced from the facts'

seb146 wrote:

It is, however, illegal to talk to a Russian about dirt they have on a political opponent. That is the whole point.


Can you identify the specific law that you are referring to? Does this law single out Russians specifically? Or is it broader to include any foreign nationals?

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by MikeDrop
Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Ex-GOP Chair Arrested..Caught Wanking Outside Ex's Home
Replies: 35
Views: 1618

Re: Ex-GOP Chair Arrested..Caught Wanking Outside Ex's Home

Us??? Us who? 1860s Republicans are nothing like you people today, your attempt to channel 1860s Republicans REQUIRES Morals....you know Morality? The GOP today is not that, they are in fact led (and you all follow) the most IMMORAL man ever to reside at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. It would behoove you ...

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by MikeDrop
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:54 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Ex-GOP Chair Arrested..Caught Wanking Outside Ex's Home
Replies: 35
Views: 1618

Re: Ex-GOP Chair Arrested..Caught Wanking Outside Ex's Home

Says you, who felt the need to reply to a A.net's non-aviation thread... Pot. Kettle. Black... :duck: The problem with the GOP is the higher they put themselves on the moral pedestal, the further they fall, as demonstrated by this delightful gentleman in Idaho. ;) I don’t start a new political thre...

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by MikeDrop
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: A full day later and no posts after Gilroy Festival shooting?
Replies: 54
Views: 2091

Re: A full day later and no posts after Gilroy Festival shooting?

Until the USA makes major changes in our culture as to guns, all the laws on limiting access to certain guns will be of limited benefit and will just divide the country even more. Very valid point. For me, this is a senseless tragedy. I tend to agree that limiting easy access to assault style semi-...

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by MikeDrop
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: A full day later and no posts after Gilroy Festival shooting?
Replies: 54
Views: 2091

Re: A full day later and no posts after Gilroy Festival shooting?

When you've got 9 killed and 39 wounded in Chicago over the weekend and no one cares, then why would we expect anyone to care about 4 dead in Cali? (https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/07/29/weekend-shootings-gun-violence-4/) Pitiful, but that's the reality. Sounds like a typical weekend in Baltimore...

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by MikeDrop
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People
Replies: 624
Views: 29723

Re: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People

Ok, do it. Please highlight the crimes committed by President Trump or his campaign that are documented in the report. Please categorize the crimes into two groups - group 1: conspiracy crimes and group 2: process crimes. Also, please provide the section, page, and paragraph for each of these crime...

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by MikeDrop
Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People
Replies: 624
Views: 29723

Re: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People

This just means we PATRIOTS need to educate low information voters and highlight crimes in and hand out copies of the Mueller Report. Ok, do it. Please highlight the crimes committed by President Trump or his campaign that are documented in the report. Please categorize the crimes into two groups -...

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by MikeDrop
Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:17 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People
Replies: 624
Views: 29723

Re: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People

So you are complaining that there was no investigation by citing the findings of an investigation? The system seems to be working quite well. I’d much rather have Congress investigate than Trump investigate himself. Wouldn’t you? Let’s not forget that all this was done during a previous administrat...

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by MikeDrop
Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People
Replies: 624
Views: 29723

Re: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People

Mueller did NOT investigate COLLUSION...because that is not a legal term...You must not have watched the proceedings. The word you are looking for is CONSPIRACY. For better of for worse, most people have adopted the colloquial term, "collusion." This is not a court of law and everyone see...

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by MikeDrop
Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People
Replies: 624
Views: 29723

Re: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People

Democrats have always wanted to see the Russians and trump and his click of delinquents be held accountable for their shananigans. It was an embarrassing and infuriating thing to watch happen and even more so to see them not have to answer for it. It’s not pathetic to want people to be held to a hi...

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by MikeDrop
Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People
Replies: 624
Views: 29723

Re: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People

When you worship a lying racist. that is a very low bar to set. Do you encourage your partner to cheat on you and then applaud when they fail? The Democrats have always WANTED to see collusion. Think about just how low the party has sunk. Democrats have always wanted to see the Russians and trump a...

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by MikeDrop
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:29 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People
Replies: 624
Views: 29723

Re: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People

Coming from a cowardly lying racist, an embarrassment is pretty much a compliment, is it not? Way to pivot from today’s failure back to the old tried and true mantra of name calling and accusations of racism. Pretty sad actually. LOL Mike Drop[/qoute] Way to redirect from proof that the President i...

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by MikeDrop
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People
Replies: 624
Views: 29723

Re: Mueller Speaks: Barr Mislead the American People

From the man himself: "I would like to thank the Democrats for holding this morning’s hearing. Now, after 3 hours, Robert Mueller has to subject himself to #ShiftySchiff - an Embarrassment to our Country!" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump LOL Mike Drop Coming from a cowardly lying raci...

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