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by Lootess
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Doug Parker Statement About AA Never Posting Losses Again
Replies: 42
Views: 6738

Re: Doug Parker Statement About AA Never Posting Losses Again

I miss Crandall. Eh, he'd suffer the same fate probably worse. I remember Gary Kelly downplaying the virus back in February like it was no big deal to his profits. No one could have seen how devastating this was going to be. Absent virus, Doug would have been right, they were printing money. I've g...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?
Replies: 195
Views: 27753

Re: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?

At the moment Mobile is the lowest cost A320 production Airbus has. Reason is that salaries are even lower than Tianjin. Not sure if the US should be proud of that. Currency hedging was alos a big deal because USD vs Euro has always been a problem with US sales for Airbus. They had no ideas about t...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATL - EYW No More 737?
Replies: 38
Views: 4555

Re: ATL - EYW No More 737?

A319s could always do the job. Retiring the 73Gs was worth it. There's 'doing the job' and 'doing the job well.' DL got the A319s from the NW transaction even before receiving its first 737-700. Why did it ever use 737-700s? The first 73G arrived in August 2008, while the merger did not close until...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What assets have the US3 not yet leveraged
Replies: 23
Views: 2869

Re: What assets have the US3 not yet leveraged

Sale leasebacks were already happening at AA since bankruptcy. Southwest and Delta started this process with some aircraft. Southwest raised $800+ million doing so, that's enough to weather a few seasons. Yes, airlines are still buying planes as necessary. It's not like those two new shiny A359s for...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATL - EYW No More 737?
Replies: 38
Views: 4555

Re: ATL - EYW No More 737?

A319s could always do the job. Retiring the 73Gs was worth it.

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Austrian Airlines to shrink by 20% by 2022
Replies: 165
Views: 16863

Re: Austrian Airlines CEO: These planes (767/777) no longer have a future

Of course the 777 has no future, it's a 1995 plane. It's already reached retirement age.

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?
Replies: 195
Views: 27753

Re: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?

No, the FAL in Alabama was originally planned for the KC-X program. Since Airbus needed additional FAL capacity and had already spent money with the study, why not go through with the plan? See my other comment. They had to spend 600 million for the assembly plant. It's not like it was some infrast...

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by Lootess
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL adds FAT-LAX
Replies: 63
Views: 7482

Re: DL adds FAT-LAX

I thought there was a stop work order on these projects while this pandemic is going on to save money? The members on Flyertalk have said Delta's "new" terminals are LAX are really awful. There is certainly not a stop work order at LAX. I was there a couple of weeks ago - Terminal 2 is st...

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by Lootess
Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?
Replies: 195
Views: 27753

Re: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?

Just to be clear, aircraft going through final assembly in Alabama are not subject to the tariff. Just to be clear, the only reason final assembly is in Alabama is because of tariffs No, the FAL in Alabama was originally planned for the KC-X program. Since Airbus needed additional FAL capacity and ...

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by Lootess
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?
Replies: 195
Views: 27753

Re: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?

I find it fascinating that DL is taking delivery of new aircraft at all. As for what they do with it, I know DL flew several onward routes from CDG before COVID. So there is something that DL can do with those planes without them touching US soil for a time if that's what is required to avoid the t...

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by Lootess
Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?
Replies: 195
Views: 27753

Re: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?

DTW-YYZ-ATL repositioning flights? PLEASE! :cloudnine: What GalaxyFlyer says, I can't believe how naive some of the people on this forum are, people & businesses all over the world avoid paying anymore taxes then they need to. Yes, moving assets to take advantage of lower taxes / fees / duties ...

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by Lootess
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airlines launch ‘flights to nowhere’
Replies: 77
Views: 10986

Re: Airlines launch ‘flights to nowhere’

https://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/


I'd rather fly and actually visit the 7th continent.
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FlyingHonu001 wrote:
QF is still doing Antarctica sightseeing trips with their 789's, looks also damn fine if you ask me... :yes:
https://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/


I'd rather fly and actually visit the 7th continent.

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by Lootess
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:47 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The odds that UA pick up the 77Ls from DL
Replies: 70
Views: 9036

Re: The odds that UA pick up the 77Ls from DL

Initially when Delta made the 777 retirement announcement I was thinking Delta would return as JFK-JNB on the A359 since it can do it non-stop, and that South African would be out of the market anyway so it would be for the taking. But ATL-JNB was always a strong performer including the belly, and i...

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by Lootess
Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The odds that UA pick up the 77Ls from DL
Replies: 70
Views: 9036

Re: The odds that UA pick up the 77Ls from DL

The topic itself is a non-starter, the main reason DL is retiring the 77L is the fleet is already too small, and with more deliveries of the 280 tonne A359 being taken, it can do all the ops that currently are ran by Delta's 77L. Albeit the CPT stop-over, but the A359 can do JFK-JNB non-stop. Second...

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by Lootess
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:10 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The odds that UA pick up the 77Ls from DL
Replies: 70
Views: 9036

Re: The odds that UA pick up the 77Ls from DL

Kirby doesn't have cash to just throw around, that's your answer.

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by Lootess
Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

First of all DTW-NRT was run 14 weekly before the merger and GRU, HKG and many other routes were dropped after the merger. DTW lost at the very least 30 routes since the mergers inception While I agree DTW gained a few new connections PEK, PVG and ICN which still are operated today it has lost way ...

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by Lootess
Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

DL/NW was a perfect match, and the lack of overlapping routes made the merger approval easy. Asia was always DL's sore spot, and Europe and South America was NW's weakness. DL/CO probably would have required jettisoning a lot of slots in NYC area DL/UA actually had some prelim conversations but eac...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

NWAESC wrote:
I think was at least one reason why we all got new clock numbers...


Richard was all-in on the idea of having new clock numbers so no one could tell who was PMDL or PMNW.

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

It comes in waves whether Delta should have kept the NW 788 order, they deferred it initially so they would have avoided the initial teething issues. Then on the other corner Richard was more than glad to take the first ever A330neos off the line. Something else to consider is CO had it's chance to ...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

Agree that it was a well executed integration from many perspectives. I also believe DL did a tremendous job building the brand post integration. I would, however, be curious to read the merger business case presented to the DL BOD, specifically regarding the TPAC network, market share and revenue ...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pt2: Southwest CEO Kelly, "If things don't improve, this cannot continue"
Replies: 114
Views: 13152

Re: Pt2: SouthWest CEO Kelly, "If things don't improve, this cannot continue"

The summer spike didn’t really slow down travel. It clearly slowed the rate of recovery. Average pre-July 4 recovery was a lot faster than average post-July 4. Yes but this current weekend which is just a random weekend in September is blowing out any weekend before July 4. But I agree it has slowe...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:04 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: WN Kelly seems to think change fee elimination won't help the legacy carriers
Replies: 77
Views: 8474

Re: WN Kelly seems to think change fee elimination won't help the legacy carriers

Every carrier has not-so-great employees, sometimes it's the luck of the draw. I had less than desirable FAs on WN before. I’m sure folks in revenue management would balk and argue about the instability and unpredictability this would create in projecting and protecting revenue... the industry still...

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by Lootess
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

DL/NW was a perfect match, and the lack of overlapping routes made the merger approval easy. Asia was always DL's sore spot, and Europe and South America was NW's weakness. DL/CO probably would have required jettisoning a lot of slots in NYC area DL/UA actually had some prelim conversations but each...

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by Lootess
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:12 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: WN Kelly seems to think change fee elimination won't help the legacy carriers
Replies: 77
Views: 8474

Re: WN Kelly seems to think change fee elimination won't help the legacy carriers

How are people so ridiculous they use this time to bash WN. It is correct WN lost its edge on change fees. I still think WN offers a way better product then the legacy carriers. Much friendlier staff(not depressed and hating passengers), Free luggage, no change fees, free snacks, more legroom, nice...

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by Lootess
Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:25 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: WN Kelly seems to think change fee elimination won't help the legacy carriers
Replies: 77
Views: 8474

Re: WN Kelly seems to think change fee elimination won't help the legacy carriers

I believe: - all tickets should be market priced and fully refundable - once customer purchases ticket, customer is locked in at that price* - if customer wants to change flights customer is charged/credited difference based on locked in price - customer is considered a no show when all boarding zo...

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by Lootess
Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: WN Kelly seems to think change fee elimination won't help the legacy carriers
Replies: 77
Views: 8474

Re: WN Kelly seems to think change fee elimination won't help the legacy carriers

The new same day flight change benefit being offered by AA/DL/UA/AS is simply a marketing ploy and nothing else. It's essentially designed to give the impression that each of the US3+AS is being a more "customer centric", "caring", "friendly" airline-however you want t...

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by Lootess
Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pt2: Southwest CEO Kelly, "If things don't improve, this cannot continue"
Replies: 114
Views: 13152

Re: Pt2: SouthWest CEO Kelly, "If things don't improve, this cannot continue"

Most people on this site are not willing to hear arguments like this. It is an aviation/airline website, so we must cheer our annual 900 million air passengers in the USA and similar numbers everywhere else, and wish them back as soon as possible. But the fires we see burning on the West Coast toda...

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by Lootess
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Still no Asia service from CLT?
Replies: 132
Views: 13696

Re: Still no Asia service from CLT?

QR's ATL-DOH isn't exactly the best performer either, so it'd be a stretch to even consider CLT despite the alliance. Not so much close, but you are basically overflying ORD on CLT-HND and DTW on CLT-ICN/PVG/PEK if you look at the Great Circle routing. DL has had issues with the economics of certain...

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by Lootess
Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Still no Asia service from CLT?
Replies: 132
Views: 13696

Re: Still no Asia service from CLT?

I think maybe the fact that there are many airports nearby CLT that DO have Asia service like DTW, ATL, JFK, MIA, BOS, etc. Other than ATL, not sure I'd characterize any of those airports as "close". http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=clt-dtw,clt-jfk,+clt-mia,+clt-bos&MS=wls&MR=120&MX...

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by Lootess
Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest CEO Kelly - If Things Don’t Improve, This Just Can’t Continue”
Replies: 69
Views: 13919

Re: Southwest CEO Kelly - If Things Don’t Improve, This Just Can’t Continue”

Well there you have it on Miami and Palm Springs, it's basically finding more areas to hit on leisure dartboard. "If things don’t improve, this just can’t continue. We can’t lose the kind of cash we lost in the second quarter, for quarter upon quarter upon quarter. We’d be out of business. A lo...

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by Lootess
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR
Replies: 453
Views: 50784

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

DL747400 wrote:
With UA planning SFO-BLR, there goes any hopes for AA to be successful on SEA-BLR.


Yep, no reason to connect.

Tech sector can just take the drive up to SFO from Mountain View, Menlo Park, or Cupertino.

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by Lootess
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR
Replies: 453
Views: 50784

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

Very nice adds. Will be interesting to see how DL replies on JNB / CPT ... and if AA might also consider South Africa, but then from which hub ... MIA ? UA is taking over the Star Alliance traffic as South African fades and, possibly, ultimately fails completely - especially on long haul routes. I ...

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by Lootess
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR
Replies: 453
Views: 50784

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

Really like the EWR-JNB decision, fills the Star void immediately. I originally predicted DL would try JFK-JNB when they retired the 77L as I had a hunch SAA wouldn't return, since they could go non-stop on the A350. For as conservative as UA has been through the pandemic, this seems extra aggressiv...

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by Lootess
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What saved the A320 program after the Habsheim airshow crash?
Replies: 53
Views: 11428

Re: What saved the A320 program after the Habsheim airshow crash?

- Open objective cooperation and responds to the crash investigation - Flight envelope protection - A 220 seat versions - Cargo container / pallet options - Engine choice on 2 higher bypass engine types - Spacier cabin and cockpit - 16G cabin compliance - Cockpit commonality with A330/A340 - Quiete...

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by Lootess
Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What saved the A320 program after the Habsheim airshow crash?
Replies: 53
Views: 11428

Re: What saved the A320 program after the Habsheim airshow crash?

You can also look at the AF447 A330 crash as another example of how the popular widebody wasn't at-fault and how the outcome didn't put a dent to the excellent reputation the aircraft or Airbus has, it had a perfect record. Fly-by-wire came under attack again in some regard because of the frozen pit...

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by Lootess
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What saved the A320 program after the Habsheim airshow crash?
Replies: 53
Views: 11428

Re: What saved the A320?

- The early crashes were all CFIT of some sort; there was nothing wrong with the aircraft per se but with the way it was operated. Whereas the 737MAX crashes were caused by a technical failure, as were the DC-10 crashes. I think this hits the nail on the head. The image in the public’s mind of the ...

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by Lootess
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What saved the A320 program after the Habsheim airshow crash?
Replies: 53
Views: 11428

Re: What saved the A320?

Flyover at 9m with gear down at Habsheim, along with pilots using a visual, and not being familiar with a forest at the end of runway 34R. Yes, lets blame the A320 for them being too low and too slow. The only thing that needed saving was the captain's complacency.

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by Lootess
Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 380904

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Major optics opportunity to furlough the only unionized group while benevolently saving the rest. This could ward off the previously mounting union drives, and keep FA, MX and others without employment contracts for decades. Playing chess with labor relations. Either way, win-win for management: ge...

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by Lootess
Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020
Replies: 445
Views: 41857

Re: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020

Yeah good point about AA and WN regarding their early build NGs. Curious of those reasons are still applicable or whether the business case changes now with the debt load and capex constraints going forward. Also have to remember the early years of the 73G/738 at DL they certainly racked up a lot o...

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by Lootess
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SkyTeam and KE/DL not flying ICN-HND!?
Replies: 40
Views: 4146

Re: SkyTeam and KE/DL not flying ICN-HND!?

I kind of have an impression that the current bilaterals only allow NRT-ICN and HND-GMP. You cannot do NRT-GMP or HND-ICN. Can anyone confirm or disprove? I have flown many times pre pandemic ICN-HND on KAL, Asiana and Peach. Both KAL and Asiana were daily, with the first using a mix of 737/330. Fo...

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by Lootess
Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SkyTeam and KE/DL not flying ICN-HND!?
Replies: 40
Views: 4146

Re: SkyTeam and KE/DL not flying ICN-HND!?

Why waste a slot on HND on a ICN short-haul, GMP-HND was more valuable. Have you heard about offering customer more choices? Why airlines fly to LIN when they can fly to MXP? Why airlines fly to LGW when they can fly to LHR? Why airline still offer EWR or JFK when they can fly to LGA? It's based on...

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by Lootess
Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020
Replies: 445
Views: 41857

Re: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020

Yeah good point about AA and WN regarding their early build NGs. Curious of those reasons are still applicable or whether the business case changes now with the debt load and capex constraints going forward. Also have to remember the early years of the 73G/738 at DL they certainly racked up a lot o...

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by Lootess
Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SkyTeam and KE/DL not flying ICN-HND!?
Replies: 40
Views: 4146

Re: SkyTeam and KE/DL not flying ICN-HND!?

Why waste a slot on HND on a ICN short-haul, GMP-HND was more valuable.

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by Lootess
Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

DL and NW I really do think were planning this scenario out for a long while as both file for BK on the same day. Until US Airways came along to throw a spanner in the works, then "Keep Delta My Delta" was born. And I also don't think it's too much of a coincidence that some form of the U...

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by Lootess
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

Sometimes I forget how Delta was once the largest airline in the world because of the merger. You hear Ed even say It in the merger video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acr5HIEVADs

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by Lootess
Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The good old times: old commercials on YouTube
Replies: 121
Views: 9989

Re: The good old times: old commercials on YouTube

Then CEO, now Arizona Governor Doug Ducey in post-merger US Airways commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dne_TC1Issw America West 747 commercials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASHEiPjMrwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-lm06qaWbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TYZWf6_Ys Alaska Airlines ...

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by Lootess
Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

The final NWA livery was indeed fresh, clean and striking. The merger was a net positive for NW and DL employees, customers, and even though some of it was smoke and mirrors, the merged company has done a lot to make flying a generally better experience. I can say that from experience when things g...

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by Lootess
Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

They both filed Chapter 11 at roughly the same time. Literally on the same day. Coincidence? Or was their merger already in the making behind the scenes? I totally get it from both brand consistency and average consumer POV so its a logical decision I just wish it wasn't so logical and probably the...

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by Lootess
Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

I believe it's more of a Ned Walker thing, but I don't see why Tim Mapes will change anything. Delta believes in brand consistency above all else. Delta is very aggressive about maintaining consistency in appearance to the extent possible. There's no reason why livery would not be part of that. I d...

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by Lootess
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later
Replies: 120
Views: 15193

Re: DL/NW Merger....12 Years Later

Remember when NW and DL pilots union worked out the merger seniority list before the official merger? Shining example of why it was a success before it got started.

https://www.twincities.com/2008/06/24/nwa-delta-pilots-reach-a-deal/

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