by DL717
Tue May 25, 2021 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 15 Years ago today- Last B717 delivered
Replies: 68
Views: 9839

Re: 15 Years ago today- Last B717 delivered

SteelChair wrote:

You seem very certain....you must have been party to aircraft purchase negotiations.


Or know people who were.

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by DL717
Mon May 24, 2021 11:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 15 Years ago today- Last B717 delivered
Replies: 68
Views: 9839

Re: 15 Years ago today- Last B717 delivered

It's a shame it had an "oddball" engine. I think that really hampered sales. Personally, I've always been very impressed with the airplane, MD seems to have addressed almost all the shortcomings of the earlier models of the series. The range hampered sales and the LR was too late to marke...

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by DL717
Mon May 24, 2021 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Small building with hardstands at DFW
Replies: 5
Views: 2086

Re: Small building with hardstands at DFW

BENAir01 wrote:
I thought it was just an abandoned satellite facility from the Delta hub days.


It is. The ASA props operated from it.

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by DL717
Mon May 24, 2021 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 15 Years ago today- Last B717 delivered
Replies: 68
Views: 9839

Re: 15 Years ago today- Last B717 delivered

It's a shame it had an "oddball" engine. I think that really hampered sales. Personally, I've always been very impressed with the airplane, MD seems to have addressed almost all the shortcomings of the earlier models of the series. The range hampered sales and the LR was too late to marke...

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by DL717
Thu May 13, 2021 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 271
Views: 53319

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

You do realize that 600+ seat aircraft, which is what the A380 with a more normal J/Y ratio, is also nearly impossible to fill consistently? Same issue remains. But the 779, which if you were actually paying attention, is what the statement speaks to moving forward-- is not. And since the quoted po...

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by DL717
Wed May 12, 2021 9:05 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: California reports $75B Budget Surplus, what could it be used for?
Replies: 40
Views: 2160

Re: California reports $75B Budget Surplus, what could it be used for?

With the staggering budget surplus California has a multitude of options for using the money (Stimmy, infrastructure, loans, etc) Any idea for what they could use the money for. (Mods feel free to merge topics if this has already been discussed) Pay down their ridiculous debt. Pretty simple. All st...

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by DL717
Wed May 12, 2021 9:03 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Latest in the Honolulu Rail Transit Saga: Train Wheels Too Narrow
Replies: 9
Views: 1105

Re: Latest in the Honolulu Rail Transit Saga: Train Wheels Too Narrow

Okay, so the only thing I can do on this is LOL. Seriously? Dear God.

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by DL717
Wed May 12, 2021 2:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 896
Views: 176464

Re: Delta Fleet Thread - 2021

When is A321 ship#1009 scheduled to be delivered? It has been sitting in Toulouse for over a year. Good question...she was actually first spotted on 14 September 2020, but hasn't had any recorded movements since! https://aibfamily.flights/A320/9588 I smell a future Hangar Queen. :lol: Probably foun...

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 271
Views: 53319

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

A320B737NGCapt wrote:
viennafly wrote:
A320B737NGCapt wrote:

Does anyone have a definitive answer to which LN Lufthansa are actually taking?


Thats the 5 they will be taking ;-)


Do you have a credible source? Not an enthusiast tracking site? Any press releases from Lufthansa or Boeing?


Mine's not an enthusiast site. Got friends in low places.

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 271
Views: 53319

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

It's going to be definitely LN 887,893,898,905&913. (https://sites.google.com/site/lhgroupfleet/lufthansa) All with GENX-engines. Where do you get the GENX engines. Fleets shows Trent. Lets not forget this: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/2007-06-13/boeing-still-hasnt-solved-engine-swap...

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 271
Views: 53319

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

Firm Orders: A350 for Munich 789 for Frankfurt Options and extra frames: Leftovers to their partners 343's are done for as soon as they get enough planes in house. Yes, but that will take a few years. Which means, all A343s be be retired on schedule after a full service life of around 23 - 25 years...

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus puts supply chain executive at helm of A220
Replies: 139
Views: 19080

Re: Airbus puts supply chain executive at helm of loss-making A220

Then market size. I believe the A318+A319+736+717+73G market has neither shrunk nor grown (just my opinion). So I see a huge potential market for the A220, in particular the A223. I also see a market for the A225 (with Airbus focusing on the A321 for the A32x family). I'm not sure I agree with this...

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus puts supply chain executive at helm of A220
Replies: 139
Views: 19080

Re: Airbus puts supply chain executive at helm of A220

Revelation wrote:
it would have saved everyone a lot of typing.


Indeed.

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 271
Views: 53319

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

So will LH have only A350s in MUC? There has been some COVID shuffling to FRA, but the plan was MUC gets the first 25 IIRC then Frankfurt if they went with the options. 787-s were intended for Frankfurt and the partners. Early A346 retirement probably changed that thinking a bit, but generally, Fra...

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 3:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How upset are airports that spent massive $$$ on a380 infrastructure?
Replies: 68
Views: 12765

Re: How upset are airports that spent massive $$$ on a380 infrastructure?

A couple of changes were beneficial (Airfield Enhancements that are always good regardless). Gate builds is probably the most disappointing sunk cost.

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 271
Views: 53319

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

Firm Orders:
A350 for Munich
789 for Frankfurt

Options and extra frames:
Leftovers to their partners

343's are done for as soon as they get enough planes in house.

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is LAX so dominant in the LA Region?
Replies: 127
Views: 15928

Re: Why is LAX so dominant in the LA Region?

Before I'm lambasted, I'm generally curious. LA is the second largest Metro in the country, but LAX completely dwarfs all the other regional airports combined.. I look at places like NYC which spreads traffic across three airports in a more condensed airspace, same with my home area of DC. Even in ...

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus puts supply chain executive at helm of A220
Replies: 139
Views: 19080

Re: Airbus puts supply chain executive at helm of A220

If that was the true strategy then Airbus would have done what it takes on pricing to get WN's business, then made the huge investments needed to ramp up A220 to become a peer of A320 and 737. The WN business would have given them the volume to drive the A220 family into the role you project, and w...

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by DL717
Tue May 11, 2021 12:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus puts supply chain executive at helm of A220
Replies: 139
Views: 19080

Re: Airbus puts supply chain executive at helm of loss-making A220

I think there are two problems. First, a -500 if you will, canibalizes the A320. Second a -500 is probably better than an A320 and it probably makes the A220 program profitable at the same time. Then there is the Boeing NMA. What is it and can Airbus match it with an A321 and a stretch of the A321 o...

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by DL717
Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:48 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Rapid Exit Taxiway / 777-8/9 folding wing tips (FWT)
Replies: 24
Views: 6009

Re: Rapid Exit Taxiway / 777-8/9 folding wing tips (FWT)

A failure to retract poses two problems: Lack of sufficient Taxiway separation (Safety Issue) - The purpose of the folding tips is to allow the aircraft (ADG-VI) to operate at an ADG-V facility. Lack of gate availability if there are no ADG-VI gates available (Turn issue) - Or the ability to actuall...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Opinion about elite universities like Caltech and MIT eliminating SAT admission test due to COVID?
Replies: 35
Views: 1727

Re: Opinion about elite universities like Caltech and MIT eliminating SAT admission test due to COVID?

I don't see the real value anymore. I knew people that had great grades, were brilliant and took longer to solve math problems than others, but tested poorly simply because they didn't take tests well. Especially a timed test. Who knows what it cost them in the long run. There are too many other met...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mass Mental Illness In US - Redux
Replies: 14
Views: 1137

Re: Mass Mental Illness In US - Redux

The problem is, we didn't have a normal society. I see everyone on edge as people just haven't had a normal amount of socialization. It isn't so much their version, it is the lack of decision making and social discource. Everyone going online is just seeing conflict. Tons of condemnation on TV and ...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:49 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway
Replies: 316
Views: 19681

Re: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway

... 1500 cops a year are shot, and people wonder why cops are jacked up on adrenaline when they make a stop resulting in these kinds of incidents. One has to question, it is necessary to lose one life, $2 Billion property damage and a ex-cop getting 25-40 years on a suspected $20 counterfeit. No, o...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: United States Mass Shooting Thread
Replies: 119
Views: 8532

Re: United States Mass Shooting Thread

not even checks on felons and the mentally ill Where do you come up with this crap? It's illegal for people adjudged mentally ill or convicted felons to purchase firearms. That's what's so frustrating for us responsible gun owners (99.99%). We're trying to debate with people who get their gun news ...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway
Replies: 316
Views: 19681

Re: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Same logic applies here. Two wrongs don't make a right. Quit whining about another legitimate story because it appears to offend your sensibilities. My brother's a cop, so sing that song somewhere else. Injustice is not a zero sum game. Who said...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:37 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Mass Mental Illness In US - Redux
Replies: 14
Views: 1137

Re: Mass Mental Illness In US - Redux

Mental health care should be free from the government if we really want to do something about it. You won't be able to help everyone, but its ridiculous that we don't simply write a check for it. Far more important than all of this debate over insurance. In many cases, medication makes so many of th...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway
Replies: 316
Views: 19681

Re: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway

Yes Einstein I get it. I'm not saying George Floyd should not have been arrested. You clearly overlook your own statements in the effect that she did not comply with an order, but her behavior was not met with the same response that resulted in George Floyd's death. I restrain people far more viole...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway
Replies: 316
Views: 19681

Re: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway

Okay, let's go at it from this angle. Lauren Boebert, a Representative from Colorado was placed under arrest (several times). During one of these arrests she reportedly resisted arrest. Should the cops have stomped on her neck until she stopped breathing? "While she was being handcuffed for di...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway
Replies: 316
Views: 19681

Re: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway

There is a general problem in this country of non-compliance with police requests which lead to stuff like this. How many of these incidences would not occur if people simply complied with police requests? Don't want cops to bother you? Stop committing crimes. Its that simple. Was Chauvin a bad cop...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway
Replies: 316
Views: 19681

Re: Derek Chauvin Trial Underway

There is a general problem in this country of non-compliance with police requests which lead to stuff like this. How many of these incidences would not occur if people simply complied with police requests? Don't want cops to bother you? Stop committing crimes. Its that simple. Was Chauvin a bad cop?...

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by DL717
Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:56 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Your Bad Experiences with the Police
Replies: 112
Views: 7606

Re: Your Bad Experiences with the Police

I'm curious what stories you have, no matter where you're from and who you are. Can be anything from just a rude cop to a near death experience (if you're comfortable sharing that of course). My experiences weren't exactly awful, just uncomfortable: First one was back in 2013. I was visiting a frie...

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by DL717
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21896

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

Yes - the A320 does need a bigger wing - but what happens if Boeing then goes and uses the 2-3-2 to build an 52m Winged People Mover? If the market is large enough and Airbus wants to respond they can't make a 3x3 much bigger and will have just invested a ton more in the A320. There is no way a win...

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by DL717
Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21896

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

All Airbus would need to do in this space is add a larger wing for range (similar to 757). Add a small stretch to the A321 for capacity at the low end then add a double stretch (front and back) with a full L2 door in the front to match the 757-300 and done. Call it a 757-200/300 light. Anything les...

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by DL717
Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5
Replies: 151
Views: 21896

Re: Speculation : Airbus Response to a possible NMA-5

All Airbus would need to do in this space is add a larger wing for range (similar to 757). Add a small stretch to the A321 for capacity at the low end then add a double stretch (front and back) with a full L2 door in the front to match the 757-300 and done. Call it a 757-200/300 light. Anything less...

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by DL717
Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Georgia Election Law Controversy
Replies: 296
Views: 16479

Re: Georgia Election Law Controversy

Only in certain areas does it take hours. Heavily Democratic areas and heavily minority areas. Outside those areas, we hear "but it only takes me five minutes so why are people complaining?" It took me 10 minutes to vote in Vegas, which I'd consider heavily democratic. We could discuss th...

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by DL717
Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Latest Biden Administration "Scandal"
Replies: 35
Views: 3094

Re: Latest Biden Administration "Scandal"

Sounds like when Trump was in office, only every other network in the country reported on such petty things.

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by DL717
Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRJ900 N840SK - The last CRJ produced
Replies: 101
Views: 17745

Re: CRJ900 N840SK - The last CRJ produced

I remember when the first one came on property. It was a whole new world compared to the EMBs. Soon they were everywhere. Then the Midwest region RJ competition. Battle to see who would be the first to be all RJ. Funny to think a new TP from Embraer might spark the turboprop cycle again in a few yea...

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by DL717
Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:17 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: #51 in infant mortality Arkansas signs near-total abortion ban
Replies: 81
Views: 4089

Re: #51 in infant mortality Arkansas signs near-total abortion ban

Mocking a state with high infant mortality rates while living in a state with substantially higher abortion rates is pretty sad. All it says is you prefer eugenics to natural selection. Disingenuous. Abortion rates say as much about a state’s access to ladies’ clinics as they do about individual pr...

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by DL717
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:09 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: #51 in infant mortality Arkansas signs near-total abortion ban
Replies: 81
Views: 4089

Re: #51 in infant mortality Arkansas signs near-total abortion ban

Mocking a state with high infant mortality rates while living in a state with substantially higher abortion rates is pretty sad. All it says is you prefer eugenics to natural selection.

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by DL717
Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2021 America’s Cup - Auckland
Replies: 14
Views: 958

Re: 2021 America’s Cup - Auckland

I've tried to get into watching it, the races are over in the start boxing, if you win the start and don't make a booboo or have some kind of mechanical failure you win the race. Sorry I'd like to see the Americans Cup revert to a modern 12m or AC32, a proper yacht where tactics are needed. Or just...

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by DL717
Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:47 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2021 America’s Cup - Auckland
Replies: 14
Views: 958

Re: 2021 America’s Cup - Auckland

Didn’t realize they were flying instead of sailing. Bring back sailing please.

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by DL717
Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is FedEx struggling to recover from last week?
Replies: 48
Views: 7758

Re: Is FedEx struggling to recover from last week?

I have two priority mail packages that left St. Louis on Monday that left again yesterday. I think they got put on a truck and the truck didn’t go anywhere. No doubt on FedEx. My UPS package out of St. Louis got here in a day though.

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by DL717
Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: LAS to be renamed for Harry Reid
Replies: 139
Views: 14920

Re: Official: LAS to be renamed for Harry Reid

Bugsy Siegel

It’s Vegas. You’re allowed to have an old school mobster name for your airport.

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by DL717
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Op-Ed: California Has Failed To Live 'Woke' Values
Replies: 17
Views: 1409

Re: Op-Ed: California Has Failed To Live 'Woke' Values

I will never understand, and probably every other observer, why they didn’t dump everything on a coastal route (which makes more sense) between Santa Barbara and San Diego first, then use the revenue (and likely profit) to build out from there. Dumb.

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by DL717
Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:27 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Presidential Age Limit in the USA
Replies: 57
Views: 3439

Re: Presidential Age Limit in the USA

They need term and age limits. No more than 30 combined years in office (House,Senate, President) and no older than 65. If you’re in a term before 65 or you pass 30 years in office during a term you can finish out that term.

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by DL717
Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:43 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Religion/Moral views and Politics.
Replies: 109
Views: 5206

Re: Religion/Moral views and Politics.

Perfection is a tail-chasing goal in a world this complex. Anyone with a brain and heart teaches their kids that as chasing perfection brings its own ills. People can be hurt simply by misunderstanding the good intentions of another. Asking forgiveness is not needed in that example. It’s not about ...

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