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by departedflights
Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s
Replies: 13
Views: 1618

Re: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s

Ziyulu wrote:
Were these from the past where the internet was virtually non-existent?


Yes, the ones I am looking for are from the 1980s, before the web took off in the 1990s.

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by departedflights
Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s
Replies: 13
Views: 1618

Re: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s

Somebody posted a fantastic gallery of detailed terminal maps here within the last couple years from either the OAG or another source, if this helps. One of them showed gate locations for airlines at many airports. I do recall that, DeltaRules. I am trying to get my hands on my own copy so I can sc...

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by departedflights
Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s
Replies: 13
Views: 1618

Re: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s

xjetflyer2001 wrote:
I have a couple of those books, but like you, I've searched multiple times as well and am unable to find any others, and unfortunately I do not even remember where I got the two that I have


Yes, they certainly seem hard to come by, xjetflyer2001!

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by departedflights
Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s
Replies: 13
Views: 1618

Re: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s

enilria wrote:
Out of curiosity why ABC and not OAG?


enilria,

I am looking for old airport terminal diagrams. I did not think the OAG began publishing those in their desktop additions until the early 90s. I was trying to get diagrams older than that.

Am I incorrect? Any assistance would be appreciated.

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by departedflights
Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s
Replies: 13
Views: 1618

Airport Pocket Guides from the 1980s/90s

Hello all... I am reaching out to the a.net community to ask for some help. Moderators, if this is the wrong forum, please move to wherever you feel appropriate. I am trying to come across an old publication titled "Airport Pocket Guide" that was published by A.M. Data Services in the 1980...

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by departedflights
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 6000ft and no chimes
Replies: 25
Views: 2921

Re: 6000ft and no chimes

As an actual flight attendant, I can honestly say that it is quite annoying to realize that we are well below 10,000 feet and we have not yet started cleaning up and securing the cabin for arrival because the pilots have "forgotten about us." It DOES happen and I don't think very many of u...

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by departedflights
Tue May 21, 2019 5:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asbury Park Airport (ARX)
Replies: 1
Views: 330

Asbury Park Airport (ARX)

Can anyone provide some information on this airport... I show commercial service into the airport as late as 1984 (Colgan Air to both Manassas ad Washington Dullles). Yet, the Abandoned & Little-Known Airfields site shows that the airport closed in 1977. Does anyone know anything about this airp...

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by departedflights
Mon May 13, 2019 2:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW-LAN. Why?
Replies: 69
Views: 7603

Re: DTW-LAN. Why?????

The same reason Comair used to fly CRJ's on the 64 mile route between Cincinnati and Dayton... connections.

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by departedflights
Sun May 05, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Denver hub 1990s?
Replies: 89
Views: 12426

Re: United Denver hub 1990s?

Did they ever have more than just a few gates at DIA or was it a spoke operation from day 1? Denver International opened in February 1995. The Official Airline Guide for April 1995 (just two months after the new airport opened) showed that Concourse A was used only by Continental and Mexicana. The ...

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by departedflights
Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United MCO hub?
Replies: 81
Views: 12304

Re: United MCO hub?

I'm not sure where they flew, but the database shows UAX aircraft at MCO in 1993. Good catch on that! Looking at the June 1993 OAG, United Express was operating J31s from Orlando to: Fort Lauderdale (4x daily) Fort Myers (1x) Jacksonville (3x) Melbourne (3x) Miami (4x) Sarasota (2X) Tampa (2x) Thos...

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by departedflights
Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Panagra's 2-letter code?
Replies: 19
Views: 2047

Re: Panagra's 2-letter code?

Does anyone happen to know what Panagra's 2-letter code was? Thanks in advance. Just out of curiosity, what did you search for because I tried Google first and came up with no clear answer. It was not my friend. That's why I came here next. Put in "Panagra", one of the first results (as a...

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by departedflights
Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Panagra's 2-letter code?
Replies: 19
Views: 2047

Re: Panagra's 2-letter code?

I tried a Google search, too, and came up with PGI. Curious about Panagra recently, did they and Braniff both fly to South America? Which routes did they share or have separately? When you go through the old BI magazines, it appeared to be a merger of two SA routes. Who had what? Thanks seat1a, I c...

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by departedflights
Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Panagra's 2-letter code?
Replies: 19
Views: 2047

Re: Panagra's 2-letter code?

departedflights wrote:
Does anyone happen to know what Panagra's 2-letter code was?

Thanks in advance.


Just out of curiosity, what did you search for because I tried Google first and came up with no clear answer. It was not my friend. That's why I came here next.

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by departedflights
Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Panagra's 2-letter code?
Replies: 19
Views: 2047

Panagra's 2-letter code?

Does anyone happen to know what Panagra's 2-letter code was?

Thanks in advance.

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by departedflights
Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN at PHL
Replies: 12
Views: 2241

Re: WN at PHL

southwest1675 wrote:
PHL was their first new market post 9/11.


Norfolk would have actually been the first new market opened after 9/11, with an inauguration date of October 7, 2001.

Philadelphia was next on May 9, 2004.

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by departedflights
Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United MCO hub?
Replies: 81
Views: 12304

Re: United MCO hub?

For anyone interested, here is a rundown of United's Orlando flights effective July 1, 1992: FROM ORLANDO To Boston: 1:55pm (737) 6:50pm (737) To Chicago Midway 8:50am (737) 2:05pm (737) 7:55pm (737) To Chicago O'Hare 7:00am (737) 9:05am (757) 12:50pm (DC10) 7:10pm (737) To Denver: 9:05am (737) 5:55...

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by departedflights
Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019
Replies: 549
Views: 72157

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797
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Brandon757 wrote:
Has AC ever ran mainline between DFW and any of their Canadian markets?


Yes. In fact, in 1983 it was an Air Canada DC-9 en route from DFW to Toronto that had an oboard fire that killed 23 passengers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797

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by departedflights
Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flight Attendants are Selling Their Seniority
Replies: 195
Views: 22031

Re: Flight Attendants are Selling Their Seniority

Why do people even go into this sad poor paying line of work? You are not taken seriously by most as a "safety professional". You are even sneered at by your airline because they view you as an airborne customer service agent (which you pretty much are) .. a necessary evil due to FAA regu...

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by departedflights
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any Original Pan Am or Eastern Pilots Still Flying?
Replies: 51
Views: 8192

Re: Any Original Pan Am or Eastern Pilots Still Flying?

With all due respect, how did a thread titled: "Any Original Pan Am or Eastern Pilots Still Flying?" become a thread about how many former Pan Am and Eastern flight attendants are still flying? It doesn't surprise me there are plenty of former Pan Am and Eastern flight attendants still out...

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by departedflights
Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Help determining date of Conquest Airlines map
Replies: 2
Views: 582

Help determining date of Conquest Airlines map

Hello all.... I came across this Conquest Airlines route map online but there was no date attached. I am wondering if anyone could help pinpoint at least a year for this map. A month would be even better. Thank you for any help. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7812/46481395435_7f300ae995_b.jpg

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by departedflights
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest at Detroit City Airport (DET)
Replies: 46
Views: 5930

Re: Southwest at Detroit City Airport (DET)

Just a tiny bit of Southwest Airlines trivia...

The same day Southwest ended operations at Detroit City Airport (September 15, 1993) was the day Southwest began flying to Baltimore.

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by departedflights
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest at Detroit City Airport (DET)
Replies: 46
Views: 5930

Re: Southwest at Detroit City Airport (DET)

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7905/47344168221_9291d99f59_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7878/40378979193_26f7b51df6_c.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7919/47291570582_4fb21b72bb_c.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7886/33468148758_4de9d6713e_b.jpg

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by departedflights
Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: WN releases Hawaii for sale
Replies: 79
Views: 7121

Re: WN releases Hawaii for sale

Moderators:

Why was this post moved to Travel, Polls and Preferences?

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by departedflights
Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service
Replies: 341
Views: 43343

Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Coincidentally, what is Southwest's longest route flown today? The longest I can find reference to is LAS-MHT, but that appears to be history. According to the Corporate Fact Sheet available at swamedia.com : "The shortest daily Southwest flight is between Chicago (MDW) and Grand Rapids (GRR) ...

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by departedflights
Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Questions about the final year of Eastern
Replies: 127
Views: 12789

Re: Questions about the final year of Eastern

northstardc4m wrote:
The fact that Braniff Mk2 and Midway Mk1 both tried to make hubs in MCI after EA pulled out shows that the idea was popular at least.


Not to take this off topic, but neither the original Midway nor the second Midway ever had a hub of any sort in Kansas City.

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by departedflights
Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Questions about the final year of Eastern
Replies: 127
Views: 12789

Re: Questions about the final year of Eastern

northstardc4m wrote:
The fact that Braniff Mk2 and Midway Mk1 both tried to make hubs in MCI after EA pulled out shows that the idea was popular at least.


Not to take this off topic, but neither the original Midway nor the second Midway ever had a hub of any sort in Kansas City.

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by departedflights
Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Atlanta 727 service to GUC in 1980s
Replies: 2
Views: 1016

Air Atlanta 727 service to GUC in 1980s

Happy New Year everyone. I came across a flight in an old Official Airline Guide which intrigued me this afternoon. It appears that in the winter of 1984-85, Air Atlanta was operating a weekly 727-100 flight that operated Atlanta-Gunnison-Pueblo-Atlanta. What struck me as odd was that the Pueblo ser...

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by departedflights
Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier Horizon
Replies: 11
Views: 2925

Re: Frontier Horizon

This was the non-union subsidiary of Frontier Holdings. It folded in 1985. Question: Were the employees merged into the Frontier Airlines seniority lists? Wouldn't the employees have been either retained by Skybus or discharged? Did Skybus hire all new people? Skybus was unrelated to the original F...

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by departedflights
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest 737 overran runway at BUR
Replies: 233
Views: 38777

Re: Southwest 737 slides off runway at BUR

SurfandSnow wrote:
Does WN even operate the 738 at BUR? I know AS and UA do; AA's upcoming DFW-BUR service will be flown by the type as well.


Yes. Tomorrow's schedule shows four Southwest -800s departing Burbank. One each to Phoenix, Dallas, Denver and Chicago.

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by departedflights
Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA 232 Details
Replies: 37
Views: 8901

Re: UA 232 Details

I don't think UA ever flew to Sioux City....closest route map that I can find is from 1984 and UA did serve Sioux Falls but not City. United mainline DID fly to Sioux City. From an article in the Sioux City Journal dated September 2, 2018: "25 YEARS AGO: United flies off: United Airlines bid f...

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by departedflights
Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western to Prudhoe Bay?
Replies: 14
Views: 2335

Re: Western to Prudhoe Bay?

Anchorage Times, December 16, 1981: Western suspends Prudhoe route In another attempt to clean up its finances, Western Airlines suspended its infant Prudhoe Bay route Tuesday because the planes flew only 5 percent full; too empty to make the flights pay off. Western began the Anchorage-Prudhoe fli...

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by departedflights
Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western to Prudhoe Bay?
Replies: 14
Views: 2335

Western to Prudhoe Bay?

I was looking through some old Western Airlines timetables, and I noticed that the January 1, 1982 timetable shows Western flying into Prudhoe Bay twice daily. One flight operated Seattle-Anchorage-Prudhoe Bay and the other operated Portland-Anchorage-Prudhoe Bay. The service was apparently short-li...

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by departedflights
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:43 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Factual question in polls and preferences?
Replies: 1
Views: 2279

Factual question in polls and preferences?

I am curious... This afternoon I posted a question trying to determine which airline flew a historical route and one of the moderators decided that question did not belong in "Civil Aviation" but in "Polls and Preferences." Can a moderator explain to me how asking a question to g...

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by departedflights
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Jakarta-Manila in 1989. Garuda or Philippine Airlines?
Replies: 3
Views: 731

Re: Jakarta-Manila in 1989. Garuda or Philippine Airlines?

Travel polls and preferences? Huh.... Not really where I thought this post belongs since I am asking a question pertaining to factual history and not just a poll or preference.

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by departedflights
Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Jakarta-Manila in 1989. Garuda or Philippine Airlines?
Replies: 3
Views: 731

Jakarta-Manila in 1989. Garuda or Philippine Airlines?

Looking for some help here. I am looking at a 1989 Official Airline Guide and have a question as to which carrier actually operated a flight. The route in question is Jakarta-Manila and I am trying to determine if the flight was operated by Garuda Indonesia or Philippine Airlines. The schedules are ...

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by departedflights
Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Bangkok-Nagoya in 1989. Thai or JAL?
Replies: 3
Views: 705

Bangkok-Nagoya in 1989. Thai or JAL?

Seeking help from the anet group. I am looking at a flight schedule for service between Bangkok and Nagoya back in 1989. The service is shown as both a Japan Air Lines and Thai Airways International flight: Bangkok-Nagoya 1:20am-8:30am JL 644 AB3 MonThunOnly 1:20am-8:30am TG 644 AB3 MonThuOnly Nagoy...

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by departedflights
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Heathrow Hub?
Replies: 45
Views: 9043

Re: United Airlines Heathrow Hub?

United's June 7, 1991 timetable cover states: ... London-Berlin Schönefeld 10:25am-1:15pm UA 902 ExMon 727 10:25am-1:15pm UA 1930 MonOnly 727 I really doubt they were flying to SXF in 1991. I'd believe TXL or maybe even THF but not SXF less than a year after German reunification. I apologize, Scott...

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by departedflights
Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Heathrow Hub?
Replies: 45
Views: 9043

Re: United Airlines Heathrow Hub?

United's June 7, 1991 timetable cover states: "Including New Service to London's Heathrow Airport and on to Amsterdam, Berlin, Brussels, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Munich and Paris." The Heathrow schedule at the time was: London-Amsterdam 9:30am-11:35am UA 918 Daily 727 London-Berlin Schönefeld 1...

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by departedflights
Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Heathrow Hub?
Replies: 45
Views: 9043

Re: United Airlines Heathrow Hub?

There is also this advertisement from around the time of the acquisition in 1991:

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by departedflights
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Heathrow Hub?
Replies: 45
Views: 9043

Re: United Airlines Heathrow Hub?

Speaking of United's acquisition of Pan Am's Heathrow routes, I recall this magazine cover from around that time:

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by departedflights
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:23 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?
Replies: 24
Views: 3263

Re: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?

I had not intended for this to become a thread pertaining to all of the memorable TWA ad campaigns of the past, but since it has taken that direction, I would like to add one of my absolute favorite ads from TWA. Sadly, I post it on the evening of a tragic anniversary in the history of TWA. From 197...

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by departedflights
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?
Replies: 24
Views: 3263

Re: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?

910A wrote:
The first clue was the word: aeroplanes.


I don't know how I missed that!

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by departedflights
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:04 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?
Replies: 24
Views: 3263

Re: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?

DL_Mech wrote:
IIRC, the "For the Best of America" tagline was only used in European advertisements.


DL_Mech.... Thank you for that! That makes sense as to why I had never heard it before!

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by departedflights
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:16 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?
Replies: 24
Views: 3263

TWA "For the best of America" slogan?

Hello everyone.... I was browsing through some old airline advertisements today and I came across a TWA ad from 1989 ad with the slogan: "For the best of America." This was the first time I had ever heard this particular TWA slogan and was just wondering if anyone else was familiar with it...

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by departedflights
Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Airlines Seattle Focus City?
Replies: 69
Views: 8164

Re: Northwest Airlines Seattle Focus City?

jetero wrote:
Thanks guys ... do you happen to know when JL started (first time) and KE? KE wasn’t originally nonstop, was it?


Japan Air Lines first served DFW from March 1999 through October 2001.

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by departedflights
Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Airlines Seattle Focus City?
Replies: 69
Views: 8164

Re: Northwest Airlines Seattle Focus City?

Off topic (apologies) but can anyone shed a light on the history of DFW-Asia nonstop service? Was TG to NRT via SEA the first? Or did this NW nonstop service predate? When did AA begin the SP service? I don't know exactly when Thai began service to DFW, but their DFW-Seattle-Tokyo-Bangkok service w...

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by departedflights
Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Continental transatlantic network before People Express acquisition?
Replies: 12
Views: 2427

Re: Continental transatlantic network before People Express acquisition?

Alright, to sume it up, before the merger CO only flew IAH-LGW, then they inherited from PE flights from EWR to BRU and LGW, and everything else happened afterwards. Thanks to all. Continental did not really inherit the Brussels route, though. People Express "became" Continental on Februa...

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by departedflights
Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Airlines Seattle Focus City?
Replies: 69
Views: 8164

Re: Northwest Airlines Seattle Focus City?

For a short period of time in the mid 1980s, did NW fly DFW-SEA or just DFW-SFO to connect to Asia? Dallas/Fort Worth to San Francisco, for sure. I'm not so sure about Dallas/Fort Worth to Seattle, though. I've looked through about 25 Northwest timetables spanning the 1980s and I don't see it liste...

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