If the fleet restructure were to happen, what does that mean for their routes? Does that mean there’s a chance that the ultra long-haul routes will be discontinued once again?
I’m personally guessing some of their old fifth-freedom routes will have to return, maybe SFO/LAX-ICN.
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel that having too many tourists-focused routes year-round has been harmful to KE? I've always thought it was bold that they would operate routes like ICN - PRG. BCN, VIE, ZAG, BNE, MLE, and CMB year-round (not to mention they are also trying to add BUD next summ...Jump to post
I remember reading an article about their attempt to start CGK-NRT-LAX years ago. https://onemileatatime.com/garuda-lax/ Not sure what happened, but if they are still serious about trying to get back to the US, I cannot see direct LAX/SFO-DPS working out. Maybe if they try for fifth freedom flights,...Jump to post
I understand they are doing it for their own safety, but I think completely banning the American passengers is not beneficial for both Europe and the US. I read an article on CNN that they're still in talks about it. Assuming it does go well, I'm guessing the EU will either test the incoming passeng...Jump to post
Not a 777, but when MD-11 flew passengers commercially, they also had 2-5-2 configuration. I remember how god-awful it was to fly in that very central seat on DL's NRT-ATL flight. Back then, there wasn't even an IFE! But back to 777s, is it just me, or does anyone else thought ANA's 2-4-3 was one of...Jump to post
I’m wondering what will happen to their LAX flights. I’ve been really hoping SQ bring their ICN fifth freedom flights back, and there’s no doubt in my mind that they’ve contemplated on it.Jump to post
To join this discussion flow, Korean Air uses KE 1/2 on ICN-NRT-HNL route after replacing its ICN/GMP-NRT-LAX.Jump to post
Will JL catch up in next few years? I would like to see JL adds AMS ZRH MAD ROM. You know, JAL used to fly to all of those places you mentioned. In fact, they even flew as far as NRT-YVR-MEX and NRT-JFK-GRU at one point. JAL went through a series of bad management in the late 2000s (including bankr...Jump to post
o Financial sector corporate traffic "lagging", however "sufficient offsetting strength from IT and professional services" If this is true, wouldn't SQ benefit more from moving their 1-stop SIN-SFO flight to ICN from HKG? Given the political situation in Hong Kong, and the stron...Jump to post
Great news. I really hope this enables SQ to revive some of its old fifth freedom flights from ICN.
I personally am hoping they bring SIN-ICN-SFO and YVR flights back.
Singapore Airlines during its earnings event this week specifically called out protest and violence in Hong Kong as discouraging travel - especially among leisure travellers that look at alternative destinations. SQ said it had cancelled some HKG frequencies with low bookings and consolidated loads...Jump to post
Since SQ still has fifth freedom rights from serving out of ICN (to YVR, SFO, and LAX), they have a shot at doing SIN-ICN-ORD. Not to mention OZ is leaving ORD in October, and they can take over before UA does.
I personally am hoping any fifth freedom out of ICN relaunches.
The more I read about what's going on in Hong Kong, I'm just wondering how the political aspects would affect aviation.... I wouldn't be surprised by airlines reducing its frequencies as well as turning away its fifth freedom services. Any thoughts?Jump to post
Another factor that you need to consider is that the perception of international travelling has changed in Korea. Up until the late 1980s, South Korea restricted its citizens from travelling outside the country unless you had a purpose (mostly business, education, etc.). I remember my parents tellin...Jump to post
I was checking my OZ mileage status on their website, and I noticed on the front page of their Korean website that they are starting a new service to Ulaanbaatar. The link is in Korean, but it's basically saying that they are having an event in celebration of starting ICN-ULN on 7/9/2019. https://fl...Jump to post
I fly on OZ often, and given that Asiana is going through some management haul at the moment, my personal theory is that the board decided to cut some of the long-distance routes that bring fewer profits than others. When I flew on ORD-ICN route on OZ, it was usually 80-90% full. Not to mention Chic...Jump to post
I’m raising my eyebrow at the second SFO-ICN.
I think ever since SQ left, it’s their move to fill in the niche (KE did the same thing), but I personally thought ORD-ICN woul’ve been a smarter move.
It’s been a long-needed flight for UA, in my opinion.
Like others said, I don't think nonstop flights would happen anytime soon due to competitions. There are other non-Thai carriers (especially Chinese and Koreans) who are willing to offer cheaper flights. From what I read on articles and on this page, TG is trying to relaunch US flights for their &qu...Jump to post
I know what you might be thinking - ANC was a transit hub during the Soviet era for Asian and European carriers. I was thinking if it's possible for a new low-cost airline or even Alaska Airlines (even though AS focuses on the mainland services) to establish a transit hub for passengers traveling be...Jump to post
Given the history of some sour relationship between AC and SQ, I think YVR-SIN is a bit of a tricky route for either airline. I'm sure AC has contemplated on starting the nonstop route, and I bet my money that AC would be the first one to start. I remember SQ had to drop its YYZ service in the past ...Jump to post
I don't think they should cut HKG completely. They did HKG-NRT-HKG for many years though. Why not try HKG-ICN-HKG? It would be possible in a world where the low-cost airlines don't exist. ICN-HKG became oversaturated. Why do you think TG is leaving that route after serving for over 20 years? ET dro...Jump to post
One other thing to add about GMP-CJU: There are not exactly a ton of alternatives outside of flying between the two. Unless you want another Sewol disaster. ....you are aware that tons of low-cost carriers fly between GMP and CJU too, right? Jeju Air, T'way, Eastar Jet, Jin Air (a subsidiary of KE)...Jump to post
As much as I despise Korean Air and boycotting it after the Nut Rage incident and their abuse of power by the owner family, I think they are really trying to outshine Asiana especially now. OZ recently had some serious hits after the "No Meal" incident as well as their own version of abuse...Jump to post
Although the article is talking about the Korean-Americans, I've actually been surprised by how lenient Korean agents in Korea (ICN and GMP) are so lenient about the airline policies. I go to Korea a lot to visit family, and whenever I fly back on United, I've never met a single agent who pinpointed...Jump to post
I personally think CJU is probably the densest airport in the world. Small terminal with hundreds of flights coming and going each hour, it's really packed to the gills. The government is even considering building a second airport in the island to split the air traffic. https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/...Jump to post
Reroute SIN-IAH to stop in ICN instead of via MAN, makes much more sense distance-wise. Only in a world in which SQ and UA do codeshares. I actually think IAH has some hope as long as UA could provide reasonable connections, especially since the demand for South American travels is growing among Ko...Jump to post
Can't say for IAH - PTY route, but I've been on PEK - YUL - HAV route. The PEK - YUL was packed to the gills (the passengers seem to be a good mix of 50-50 of Canadians and Chinese). When we continued to Havana (as well as back to Montreal), there were lots of empty seats - about 15-20% load?Jump to post
As they're replacing SQ8/7 with SQ612/1 with exact departure time from SIN (0245) and exact equipment (77W) I doubt this would happen anytime soon; and SQ612/1 is a typical Japan/Korea regional turnaround flight number. Of course, we never know if they're planning to do another change shortly after...Jump to post
Since I have always flown on SQ 15/16 on SFO-ICN and SQ 7/8 on LAX-ICN all my life since I was a little boy to visit family in Korea (I have also flown on SQ 17/18 several times on YVR-ICN/SEL), SQ's cancellation on LAX-ICN-SIN to start nonstop flights has been a big shock for me personally. I compl...Jump to post