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by SeoulIncheon
Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Switzerland to follow suit with Eco-Tax
Replies: 95
Views: 7224

Re: Switzerland to follow suit with Eco-Tax

its truly beyond me how anyone can argue any of this. Effects poorer people more? If we continue down the road we are on, the entire population will have far worse problems than everything being expensive, like no more place to live, or no more air that's breathable. We attack this NOW on all front...

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by SeoulIncheon
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:53 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest
Replies: 182
Views: 31023

Re: Hong Kong airport cancel all flights today

SQ2 (77W) is flying SFO direct. Wow. would 77W have enough legs for SIN-SFO direct - or would somebody get offloaded? It isn't exactly the season with strong jetstream either... SIN-SFO should be ok. It is about 14.5hr flight time. SFO-SIN is not possible. It will be a very light load as a lot of p...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Hong Kong airport disruptions due protest
Replies: 182
Views: 31023

Re: Hong Kong airport cancel all flights today

jeffrey0032j wrote:
SGAviation wrote:
SQ872 (SIN-HKG) diverted to Guangzhou (CAN).
SQ2 (SIN-HKG-SFO) is cancelled.

SQ2 (77W) is flying SFO direct.


Wow. would 77W have enough legs for SIN-SFO direct - or would somebody get offloaded? It isn't exactly the season with strong jetstream either...

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by SeoulIncheon
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM calls for people to fly less
Replies: 237
Views: 23410

Re: KLM calls for people to fly less

This carbon dioxide reduction bogeyman is turning out to be the biggest scam in human history. Amen, but you're a brave soul to say it. The reason for the fixation on CO2 is that you can weaponize it to push renewables and control fossil fuel usage, and at the end of the day, it's all about global ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM calls for people to fly less
Replies: 237
Views: 23410

Re: KLM calls for people to fly less

I agree that businesses should be doing a lot more video meetings. It's a huge waste of money to fly people around for a meeting that lasts a couple of hours. It's a very antiquated and inefficient way of doing business. Could not agree more. Especially with remote work being ever more prevalent. O...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future operators of Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner
Replies: 90
Views: 15498

Re: Future operators of Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner

I expect KE to deploy 787-10 to mostly Asian routes (short-haul) without a need for F class. KE does not have F-class hardware that suits 787 (apparently not willing to install 1-1-1 Kosmo Suites on 787), and needs to replace A330s (old ones - late 90s build) as well as 772s (late 90s to mid 00s) an...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana goes 2x daily on ICN-JFK route
Replies: 8
Views: 2217

Re: Asiana goes 2x daily on ICN-JFK route

For the longest time they used to fly this route double daily alongside KE. During peak seasons they were flying 4x A380 daily on the route. Since then they've downgauged down to a daily A350 (seasonal a380) whereas KE still flies 1x A380 and 1x 747-8 (Seasonal A380). Asiana has never flown to JFK ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Korean Air signing LOI for 30 787's
Replies: 150
Views: 26554

Re: CEO: Korean Air widebody order imminent

KE has been really against RR-powered aircraft. I sense that KE will not buy A350 or A330 neo for that reason. ICN-ATL at around 7000sm is likely longest route for KE for a foreseeable future so ULH is not needed, but due to cargo division, high payload is always welcome IMO KE will probably go with...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon May 20, 2019 5:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana starting ICN-ULN starting 7/9/2019
Replies: 19
Views: 2263

Re: Asiana starting ICN-ULN starting 7/9/2019

I did random search for october ICN-ULN round-trip on KE. It's around $500 RT on Y - and it's after OZ enters the market. It is around 3.5 hrs flight one way. The route will probably print money for OZ and KE. Also only feasible connecting point for ICN-ULN outside of nonstops would be PEK and it's ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble
Replies: 154
Views: 51883

Re: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble

http://www.investchosun.com/2019/04/12/3236607 (Article in Korean) Invest Chosun reports that Kumho owner family decided to sell Asiana. Not officially confirmed yet. How, to where, for how much price, etc., remains to be seen. If they can find a new financially stable owner with a good amount of c...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 143
Views: 34108

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

78X would be for seat capacity and if UA did IAD-PEK with 78X then LAX/SFO to HND/NRT/ICN would be no problem, with some cargo weight to spare. Given JL/NH is very premium-heavy, it might even make to JFK. However I don't think 787 cabins are wide enough to accomodate a true first class seat and it ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble
Replies: 154
Views: 51883

Re: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble

Asiana can't change extrtnal auditor so it basically meant Asiana will do what it takes to get unqualified opinion Why can't they? It is very rare that a listed company in Korea fails to get an unqualified opinion - the fact that PwC dared not to sign an unqualified opinion tells a lot about Asiana...

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by SeoulIncheon
Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble
Replies: 154
Views: 51883

Re: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble

Bloomberg summarized the news better than I did. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/asiana-airlines-liquidity-at-risk-as-ratings-on-verge-of-junk Most interesting part of the article: Asiana will seek another audit as soon as possible to get an “unqualified” opinion, a spokesperson ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble
Replies: 154
Views: 51883

Re: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble

They belong to one of South Korea largest conglomerate Kumho Group. I don't see how they will collapse, as OP has mentioned it is too big to fail. Not forgetting they have many subsidiaries including, not limited to, Air Busan and Air Seoul. Actually Kumho Group has been in very bad shape recently....

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble
Replies: 154
Views: 51883

Re: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble

I am not very familiar with South Korea, but isn't it what has happened in other countries like Germany or the UK? South Korea is a medium-sized market, with no room for two legacy carriers (Korean and Asiana). With the boom in low cost carriers (Air Seoul, Jeju Air, Eastar) on one side and Korean ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble
Replies: 154
Views: 51883

Re: Asiana Airlines in huge financial trouble

They belong to one of South Korea largest conglomerate Kumho Group. I don't see how they will collapse, as OP has mentioned it is too big to fail. Not forgetting they have many subsidiaries including, not limited to, Air Busan and Air Seoul. Actually Kumho Group has been in very bad shape recently....

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?
Replies: 55
Views: 8165

Re: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?

Wow! KE and OZ are literally dominating the Korea-US market, a stark contrast to their long-haul markets in Europe, the Middle East, and Oceania. Seems like both KE and OZ are the specialists in Transpacific routes, unlike CX or CA (as their long-distance routes are more balanced in other continent...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?
Replies: 55
Views: 8165

Re: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?

Although KE and OZ are the only two carries flying non-stop ICN-Oceania, both of them only have up to a single daily (ICN-SYD) flight per city. Whereas SQ's 4-daily ICN-SIN service can easily connect to their expansive SIN-Oceania (especially for Australia) network. Likewise, CX's 5-daily non-stop ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?
Replies: 55
Views: 8165

Re: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?

Besides as some mentioned Korea-US tends to be much more ethnic in nature which gives Korean carriers point sale advantage, the yields to Korea are not very spectacular either. Except NH doesn't fly NRT-ICN! So UA traffic will all have to funnel through SFO until future HND slots open up, then they...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?
Replies: 55
Views: 8165

Re: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?

KE and OZ both have strong presence to all of NYC, ORD and LAX. UA need not enter these markets by itself. However, given current financial situation of OZ, it seems likely that OZ cut some of North American routes, and UA might try to fill in by flying UA metal. Also note that premium passengers o...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?
Replies: 55
Views: 8165

Re: UA's presence in Seoul/Incheon?

KE and OZ both have strong presence to all of NYC, ORD and LAX. UA need not enter these markets by itself. However, given current financial situation of OZ, it seems likely that OZ cut some of North American routes, and UA might try to fill in by flying UA metal. Also note that premium passengers on...

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by SeoulIncheon
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 719805

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

39% grounded Number of 737 MAX 8s in Fleet Status Airline 22 Grounded China Southern Airlines 15 Grounded Air China 11 Grounded Hainan Airlines 11 Grounded Shanghai Airlines 10 Grounded Xiamen Airlines 10 Grounded Lion Air 7 Grounded Shandong Airlines 7 Grounded GOL Airlines 6 Grounded Shenzhen Air...

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by SeoulIncheon
Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pakistani Airspace to remain Closed with exceptions
Replies: 122
Views: 19351

Re: Pakistani Airspace to remain Closed till 4th March, with exceptions

I don’t understand why SFO-DEL needs to refuel in SHJ? Isn’t it faster flying via Pacific and refueling instead in ICN/China/Japan? No. Flying over Pacific would take it against the winds or Jetstreams. Very fuel expensive Also there is a big detour flying between East Asia and India due to Hinalay...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will Delta or American Fly US-Singapore In The Next 10 Years?
Replies: 41
Views: 4658

Re: Will Delta or American Fly US-Singapore In The Next 10 Years?

For American Airlines, they could pick up where UA left off and launch LAX-SIN nonstop. From what I've heard on here, part of the reason UA dropped LAX-SIN and moved it to the 2nd daily SFO-SIN was because the 789 was struggling with the distance of LAX-SIN and wasn't able to carry enough payload t...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:43 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A380 Biggest manufacturing loss in civil aviation to date?
Replies: 127
Views: 14234

Re: A380 Biggest manufacturing loss in civil aviation to date?

IIRC A380 was originally scheduled to be delivered in 2004, when economy was peaking, then got delayed and first flight was made in 2007(right before large recession). Given that A380 was around 150 frames short of breakeven, I wonder if A380 was delayed a year or two less(and delivered in 2005/06) ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean start up Air Premia selects 787-9
Replies: 84
Views: 19396

Re: Korean start up Air Premia selects 787-9

KE/OZ TPAC prices are quite high and there aren't much competition especially after NRT-HND split which kind of eliminated Japanese airlines from the market. This is one market where you expect to pay $1,200 at the very minimum, during low-seasons with bad connection times. If Premia can offer somet...

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't BA order the B748?
Replies: 101
Views: 30524

Re: Why didn't BA order the B748?

I think the three 748 operaters had some special reasons...and 748 was not that attractive to others. 1. LH - got a good deal, and they didn't own 777. Then their 346 is a gas guzzler so probably thought that 748(with commonality with 744 and 74F) would be better than more 346 or operating a new typ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't BA order the B748?
Replies: 101
Views: 30524

Re: Why didn't BA order the B748?

I am not sure. However, it was a mistake to order the A-380 and it would be a mistake to order the 747-8. Twins are a better fit. (Imagine, offending both Airbus and Boeing supporters in one posting.) To be clear, the day of the VLA quads are done. I have a hard time believing it was a mistake when...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Shutdown disruption on Aviation
Replies: 45
Views: 6313

Re: Shutdown disruption on Aviation

Would wet-leases or dry-leases also be affected should an airline seeking subs for aircraft sitting on tarmac(delivery or return from C-/D-Checks) try to lease one?

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Brussels Airlines to ditch Sukhoi Superjets?
Replies: 162
Views: 38940

Re: Brussels Airlines to ditch Sukhoi Superjets?

Reputation? When did they built any reputation? Are you implying that SU is not a reputable carrier? Yes. Not just the service aspects, but financial situation and operations. They are on par with many state-owned/state-controlled airlines. Like Air India, Thai, GA, etc. You are a bit harsh to TG o...

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by SeoulIncheon
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CAAC unveils slots allocation/airline distribution for Beijing’s upcoming PEK/ZBAD dual-hub system
Replies: 72
Views: 10051

Re: CAAC unveils slots allocation/airline distribution for Beijing’s upcoming PEK/ZBAD dual-hub system

I see at least CX operating to both ZBAA and Daxing airports. CX is a OW member(founding member) and their partners will fly mainly to Daxing. Then CX is partly owned by CA and CA/CX also collaborates as far as I know. Hence CX/KA has partners at both airports, and it will probably split the operati...

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by SeoulIncheon
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CAAC unveils slots allocation/airline distribution for Beijing’s upcoming PEK/ZBAD dual-hub system
Replies: 72
Views: 10051

Re: CAAC unveils slots allocation/airline distribution for Beijing’s upcoming PEK/ZBAD dual-hub system

Not really. You need to obtain a “certificate of passage to HK&Macau” to enter HK or Macau, and they are applied in the same system in which passports are applied. You get a blue passport-like thing as the certificate first time; after meeting certain criterias, imho, you can apply for a card w...

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by SeoulIncheon
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Departures in the middle of the night
Replies: 88
Views: 13977

Re: Departures in the middle of the night

Also happens that flights are generally longer in East Asia. BKK-TYN(Taiyuan) is blocked at 4:05 with TYN one hour ahead. It is similar to AMS-TLV or LAX-ORD. Even in Europe such odd-hour flights are not unheard of. LY336 AMS 2230 - TLV 0255 One of the most extreme red-eye in Asia would be PEK-ICN a...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japan-Maui nonstop flight?
Replies: 66
Views: 10244

Re: Japan-Maui nonstop flight?

I wonder why everyone is assuming a hypothetical NRT-OGG-NRT would be operated by a 77E? NRT-KOA has been operating with a 763 since service was resumed. While OGG-NRT would be a longer flying time with headwinds than say, OGG-ORD, 763s have operated longer flights from OGG. At one time DL used to ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Electric planes: the state of the art
Replies: 260
Views: 17589

Re: Electric planes: the state of the art

A lot of duckspeak, no solid numbers in terms of $$/flight or lb fuel/flight. Relax, take a deep breath, and try to prove your idea actually worth bytes wasted. I disagree about the duckspeak, but I'll take your advice and try to chill out & relax. I also come from a financial background (what ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANA launches NRT-PER
Replies: 63
Views: 10257

Re: ANA launches NRT-PER

I wonder how this route will perform - NRT is a bit too east for Kangaroo route to PER and bit too north for US connections. Looks like the route will be O&D heavy with some connections from Korea. Except the outbound flight doesn't connect well with flights from S. Korea, either. The only earl...

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by SeoulIncheon
Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANA launches NRT-PER
Replies: 63
Views: 10257

Re: ANA launches NRT-PER

Sorry but I don't see it. Granted, a B788 is not a lot of capacity but daily service is overkill It's not overkill. I have a fortnightly to monthly commute Perth-Tokyo, normally via SIN or HKG (most ex PER flights are at capacity). A huge amount of passengers that I have chatted to are employed by ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:41 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Climate Change And Airlines
Replies: 133
Views: 8609

Re: Climate Change And Airlines

This is what I do for a living. It's not quite as simple as whipping up an alternative -- it's the life's work of dozens of economists. The point is that we need multiple models for understanding the problem indifferent ways. The first step to using an existing model is to understand its limits. I ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:25 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Climate Change And Airlines
Replies: 133
Views: 8609

Re: Climate Change And Airlines

This is based on extremely flawed economic modelling, and a simple but absurd premise: that we have to grow the economy (make the problem worse) in order to be able to afford to mitigate the worst. An alternative approach, one which is less elegant to model (and less ideologically appealing to grow...

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by SeoulIncheon
Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Malaysia Airlines drops first class, rebrands it as Business Suites
Replies: 27
Views: 6278

Re: Malaysia Airlines drops first class, rebrands it as Business Suites

I don't understand either - maybe Malaysian corporate travel policy that does not allow F class but allow C class was an factor...

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest agent mocks child’s name
Replies: 147
Views: 11288

Re: Southwest agent mocks child’s name

Hopefully terminable. It’s just a cancer to have someone like that as part of your organization. I agree. It's an HR holocaust. A Hiroshima nuclear bombing of behavior. A Chernobyl at the gate. A GITMO of an employee. A Vietnam war of an agent. A Katrina of a citizen. A 9/11 of a woman! Twelve year...

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should BA use B788's on short-haul ?
Replies: 74
Views: 11704

Re: Should BA use B788's on short-haul ?

I think you're not taking into account the hours time difference !! HND-GMP is only 758 air miles and as said I've flown - twice - NRT - PVG in around 2 hrs 20 mins airbourne. What time difference? HND-GMP no time difference(both GMT+9), HND 1 hr ahead of SHA/PVG (all of China GMT+8) Also I routine...

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by SeoulIncheon
Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should BA use B788's on short-haul ?
Replies: 74
Views: 11704

Re: Should BA use B788's on short-haul ?

They have a subfleet of 787s that exclusively fly domestic trunk routes within Japan. Both ANA and JAL have domestic/Asia route subfleet of 787s (as well as 772s 773s and before that 744s). We are talking about widebody flight every hour between Tokyo and Osaka or other major Japanese cities. Inter...

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by SeoulIncheon
Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should BA use B788's on short-haul ?
Replies: 74
Views: 11704

Re: Should BA use B788's on short-haul ?

I’d argue the 787 as an aircraft is too expensive to have it fly around in Europe with a European configuration. Using a long haul 787 for a quick rotation before a long flight then that’s different. Well, ANA seem to use the 788's almost exclusively on services to Shanghai, Taipei and Seoul which ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B787-10 future prospects?
Replies: 219
Views: 27690

Re: B787-10 future prospects?

Does It have enough range for KE’s needs? Depends on what KE thinks of in terms of replacing 773A, 77E, and older 333s. KE might want dedicated short-haul widebodies for flights within Asia (slot-restricted) or might simply use one of 77Ws or 748s for those flights. The longest 773As currently fly ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B787-10 future prospects?
Replies: 219
Views: 27690

Re: B787-10 future prospects?

Does It have enough range for KE’s needs? Depends on what KE thinks of in terms of replacing 773A, 77E, and older 333s. KE might want dedicated short-haul widebodies for flights within Asia (slot-restricted) or might simply use one of 77Ws or 748s for those flights. The longest 773As currently fly ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air Ongoing Developments Discussion Thread
Replies: 1037
Views: 164650

Re: Icelandair and WOW merging!

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Probably the due diligence is already finished. Most companies usually have due diligence reports at hand when they make the deal publicly known.
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MIflyer12 wrote:
Maybe some Icelandic bankers had begun due diligence when this thread was started:

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Probably the due diligence is already finished. Most companies usually have due diligence reports at hand when they make the deal publicly known.

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by SeoulIncheon
Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Court decision: Ryanair cannot close EIN base
Replies: 62
Views: 9064

Re: Court decision: Ryanair cannot close EIN base

I'm not a lawyer in the EU and not very familiar with European law but anyway...some ideas for Ryanair Is that Ryanair base run by seperate Dutch entity? If so, then Ryanair can just liquidate the Dutch entity altogether, leave nothing behind, and have other branches handle Dutch routes. Otherwise, ...

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by SeoulIncheon
Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A330-900 routes
Replies: 80
Views: 13683

Re: Delta A330-900 routes

I'm not even 30. You said Anderson saved Delta. That isn't true no matter how you try and spin it. IQ or age? Lackluster aircraft...that commands a revenue premium over peers. Regressed... into a successful, profitable airline with investment grade rating from S&P, Moodys etc... I don’t think t...

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by SeoulIncheon
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to get rid of single use plastics
Replies: 49
Views: 8339

Re: Delta to get rid of single use plastics

From what I know using single-use cutlery vs. real stuff(real glass/ceramic/etc.) has legal implications in the US and cafeteria using real stuff are subject to more regulations (=higher cost) - thus many hotel and lounges that serve food on single-use cutlery in the US.

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