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by smartplane
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Global grounding is force majeure territory. Honestly? If you don't know what force majeure is, then it is better you don't write such a comment as above. It's probably the the most untruthful statement I have read in this thread. The definition of force majeure is: Force majeure refers to unantici...

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by smartplane
Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Leasing companies are shoveling in money, partly on old planes which otherwise would be sitting in a desert awaiting scrapping. Only on aircraft that can be brought back to service as you describe, and many of those are being heavily discounted (or free) as compensation for lessees who can't receiv...

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by smartplane
Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 751
Views: 129057

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Emirates will accept every last 777X it has ordered. The 777X order was placed when there was still a possibility of the A380NEO replacing the current A380's. Now Emirates have has 120 A380's with no direct replacement. They would need 180 777-9's just to keep the same capacity. The 777-9's being t...

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by smartplane
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

A new report puts the lost revenue at $4.1 billion loss by airlines due to the 737MAX grounding https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/2019/08/10/new-report-puts-impact-of-boeing-737-max-grounding-at-41-billion/#346b3e491fdf Leasing companies are shoveling in money, partly on old planes which otherwi...

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by smartplane
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

$4.1 billion is Boeing’s loss. The numbers for the airlines are how much those airlines lost from not having the 737MAX in their fleet. Actually, I misread that, and now I’m just as confused as you are. They do say total airline losses of $4.1 billion, but if five airlines have losses of $2+ billio...

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by smartplane
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 636
Views: 164794

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

Stretching reality to believe the GE engine is so fragile NO flight tests can be performed. If GE cannot reliably determine the failure mode, it would be dangerous to send up frames and put them through the rigors of testing. I'm not sure how airframe/engine certification paths work, but there may ...

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by smartplane
Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 636
Views: 164794

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

Seeing an aircraft moving under it's own power on the ground does nothing for buyer confidence, or willingness to switch tranches of conditional orders to unconditional, especially when aware of air frame and engine issues. Airframe issues? So far the delay has been about the GE9x. Stretching reali...

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by smartplane
Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 636
Views: 164794

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

I think having the 777 actually moving and doing something helps from a marketing standpoint. Current and potential customers can see it’s something other than a paper airplane or just sitting in a hanger waiting for the engine repair. Boeing has to be really pressed to have something moving other ...

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by smartplane
Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 501
Views: 119863

Re: Airbus A220 (CSeries) Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

Republic probably attempted to resell those with a profit. But without comfirmed delivery slots, I'm not sure what kind of bargaining position you can have. The days of the customer being able to sell slots, undelivered and even just delivered aircraft are gone, though where smaller, less streetwis...

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by smartplane
Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

By the way, whatever happened to the "Joint Authorities Technical Review" team? They held one meeting in May and were never heard of again. And FAA... The were giving weekly (albeit lacking substance) updates in May, then took 3 weeks pause in June, and now six weeks and counting without ...

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by smartplane
Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 300
Views: 66855

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

With the T-1000 yes but not the TWXB which is a later design, but that was all irrelevant as GE demanded exclusivity and Boeing and GE are welded at the hip. Do we know for a fact that GE demanded exclusivity on the 777X. As of 2011, Boeing submitted RFPs for 777X powerplants to GE, RR and P&W ...

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by smartplane
Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Without MCAS the Pilots will have a raw flying MAX without "protection". If a 737 MAX is not FAA certifiyable without MCAS how can it be permitted to fly with MCAS disabled? Couldn't we better take out the whole MCAS from the beginning please and let the pilots fly and trim themselves? It...

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by smartplane
Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More Bad News for Boeing: Poor quality complaints from customers
Replies: 95
Views: 24892

Re: More Bad News for Boeing: Poor quality complaints from customers

Some minor defects, at Airbus and Boeing, are to be expected, just as happens when your car dealer performs a pre-delivery inspection. Acceptance is a very specialised process, which may involve representatives from the airline and lessor and / or lead financier. They are looking for faults, issues ...

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by smartplane
Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 94626

Re: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022

I wonder what kind of deposits were submitted with the orders by the "questionable" airlines? IATA has a generic contract template. A & B have modified versions of this as their own templates, used for small and medium customers. Large customers have their own templates with A & B...

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by smartplane
Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 300
Views: 66855

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

Boeing went with GE as sole engine supplier...so I would say Boeing is just as responsible for any delays...no?? And is trying to enforce no customer direct engine purchases, and irrespective, clips GE's ticket every time an X-related engine sale is made. Such arrangements are very lucrative for bo...

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by smartplane
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

In reality, everything can be done, it depends on capabilities of the engineering team. 747 went from drawing board to the sky in 1968, a time span just 3 years. Today, with all these software modelling tools, super fast PCs, the Boeing engineers come back and say nothing can be fixed. Incomparable...

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by smartplane
Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 94626

Re: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022

They are only second. Lufthansa will sell back 6 between 2022 and 2023 to Airbus. Don't forget the Emirates deal which is similar if not identical Is the EK deal identical? I expect that will be an incredibly interesting web to unweave. The A340 web hasn't been 'unweaved' yet, so unlikely the LH 74...

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by smartplane
Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American extending life of some 757s, A320s, and 737s
Replies: 70
Views: 16341

Re: American extending life of some 757s, A320s, and 737s

So, we all should understand that the M80 retirement is due to the requirements of ADS-B, which some posters (in the know) in other threads have stated is >$1mm. That said, I don't understand those that mention that an M80 is not a replacement (or even a placeholder) for a 7M8. That's correct, it's...

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by smartplane
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Has the Max 8 been damaged as badly as DC-10 in the mind of the public?
Replies: 55
Views: 5213

Re: Has the Max 8 been damaged as badly as DC-10 in the mind of the public?

No, the public *WILL* know what plane they will be flying on because when/if anything heads back into the skies , they'll be reminded at ad nauseam. Good ole Max has a massive amount of problems no matter how it's packaged. This will be fun to watch. Wow Boeing hater alert. And your "If" ...

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by smartplane
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Has the Max 8 been damaged as badly as DC-10 in the mind of the public?
Replies: 55
Views: 5213

Re: Has the Max 8 been damaged as badly as DC-10 in the mind of the public?

2 years barely anybody in the public will remember nor care. Aviation enthusiasts are not the general public. I would argue that it's quite the opposite. For people who know next to nothing about aviation, the only thing they'll probably remember is that the MAX is unsafe. People do care about thei...

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by smartplane
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 94626

Re: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022

Prudent to be rid of the euros 800 million upgrade cost of the whales. For the leased aircraft, they will be up for accrued maintenance, pro-rata cost of checks, plus internal and external refurbishment as part of the end of lease balloon payment. If there is a buyback in place with Airbus on the r...

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by smartplane
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 94626

Re: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022

Is it a firm order, as most media say, or a MOU as the new thread's title is saying? The 60 + 30 options are firm IMHO. A truly 'firm' order would be unconditional. There is no way a just announced order for 60 are all unconditional. Probably 3 tranches of 20, or 6 tranches of 10. Unlikely more tha...

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by smartplane
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 300
Views: 66855

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

https://www.ge.com/investor-relations/events-reports Couldn't see any reference to delays or test findings, but extra development costs mentioned. With MAX costs mounting, a marriage between Boeing and GE Aviation now seems less likely, at least with Boeing in command. Could GE take a proportion of ...

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by smartplane
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others
Replies: 49
Views: 8478

Re: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others

In their just released quarterly report, GE identify a potential business threat - their association with the MAX financially and reputation.

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by smartplane
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

GE released the 2Q19 results on the 31st. https://www.ge.com/investor-relations/events-reports Aircraft engine orders by value for the quarter down 10%. MAX engines still being sold and paid in full? Inventory increasing, so perhaps not. GECAS has a financial interest in nearly 200 MAX (in service, ...

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by smartplane
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

About grandfathering, I've read so much mistake in previous posts I'd like to add a bit of my experience in system installation under EASA authority. I pick your post to illustrate, it could have been another :) Grandfathering means keeping a system certified against an old regulation on an update ...

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by smartplane
Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

The longer resolution of these issues takes, the more will be found, because multiple agencies inside and outside the USA are still looking. Every Boeing and FAA hand that 'touched', and even eyes that 'viewed' the MAX are now being tracked back to the NG, X and 787 That's certainly what has happen...

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by smartplane
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 300
Views: 66855

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

c) Boeing is selling the plane to customers, including engines (it's not like the customers have any choice). It is Boeing's responsibility towards the customers for timely delivery. The customer doesn't really care if the screw up is caused by Boeing, GE, UTC, Alcoa or Fluke; they expect the contr...

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by smartplane
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

I was under the impression there were only two problems facing the MAX. But according to these articles there are now six issues. In simplified terms: - MCAS issue (well known) - Trim wheel issue (too rigid, impossible to move in certain scenarios) - Lack of training (a few slides on an ipad / no s...

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by smartplane
Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1460
Views: 263631

Re: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft

If the 777X family is a serious contender, QF won't be making a decision until test flying, and data becomes readily available, unless Boeing / GE are willing to guarantee performance and delivery, with expensive penalties for misses.

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by smartplane
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 300
Views: 66855

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

A not insignificant blow for Boeing at this difficult time. However better to happen now and get it right from the start than later on. All will be forgotten about this time next year. Just like the completely flawless introduction of the 787 with no delays or groundings? Exactly like that. Ask the...

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by smartplane
Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

An engineer who feels he doesn't have as many resources as he feels he needs to get the job done is as common as chips. I'm sure I could go to my place of employment and survey all the engineers and the same sentiment would be expressed unanimously. Also engineers feeling a lot of pressure to minim...

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by smartplane
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

More info on TUI ferry flight of MAX8 PH-TFO: https://simpleflying.com/tui-737-max-relocation/ https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-tfo/#217466c7 At the risk of reading too much into this... how come only Germany has banned 737MAX overflights? Are we seeing the supposed 'lockstep' of regu...

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by smartplane
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Before we go crazy on the rudder cable issue, it would help to find out if Boeing added any protection. The article says they didn't want to add redundant cables or make the rudder FBW due to commonality (although it was fine to go to FBW spoilers). The article doesn't say if they added protection ...

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by smartplane
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How does Pratt & Whitney price the PW1500G compared to PW1900G?
Replies: 9
Views: 2676

Re: How does Pratt & Whitney price the PW1500G compared to PW1900G?

Reduced thrust does not mean reduced overhaul costs and that is where the profit lies. Assuming a paper / software de-rate, reduced thrust does mean reduced contracted maintenance costs, though the relationship is not linear. Invented figures. The 'primary' engine in the family (parent) has thrust ...

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by smartplane
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 94626

Re: AF to order A220, replace A380 with 787 or A350?

I feel that the program is in "wait and see" mode till the ownership issue settles out, because the program's success just increases the cost for Airbus to buy out their partners. Project ownership is off topic, but.... Only 'wait and see' components are Canadian legal and financial const...

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by smartplane
Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

After an initial grace period, the rest of the World has banned ferry / positioning / storage flights. FAA has done Boeing a favour by approving one way positioning / storage flights, with FAA-approved, insurance (not Boeing's experimental / test cover), presumably with weather, altitude, destinati...

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by smartplane
Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Don't they ferry them with special pilots only and flaps out to prevent MCAS from activating? Company pilots: yes. Flaps out: There are plenty of flight tracks showing ferry flights at max altitude and speed, I posted one earlier to this thread. So, not a "death trap". After an initial gr...

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by smartplane
Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:15 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First Class Declining
Replies: 28
Views: 4382

Re: First Class Declining

I think one of the reasons are that it requires a lot of extra investment for only a small premium over business. Seperate lounges, restaurant style service on the ground before flight, caviar service etc. Increasingly business class is only marginally behind this. Look at SQ's business class? you'...

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by smartplane
Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

So building MAX simulators is also on hold by the FAA? There is no "building" of anything that is "on hold" by the FAA. MAXs are still being built at a rate of 40 or so per month (at least until Q4). Sim builders can build as many MAX sims as they want. Of course, they'll have t...

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by smartplane
Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines flight attendant bitten by emotional support dog
Replies: 88
Views: 10779

Re: American Airlines flight attendant bitten by emotional support dog

If they aren’t a certified service pet then they belong in the cargo hold. But the best place for them and their entitled owners entirely...IS AT HOME! A US-based colleague a decade ago used the old ESA rort. When he and his wife travelled in the US, they needed their two small dogs on the plane. W...

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by smartplane
Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 636
Views: 164794

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

One MAX-related consequence, and possible delay to commercial operations, will be timely availability of X simulators, and integrity testing (actual flight characteristics versus actual simulator characteristics) by airworthiness authorities (not delegated to Boeing). Also, X finance RFP's are non-e...

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by smartplane
Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

One thing forgotten is even if the fix whizzed through the regulators, and I think we can be pretty sure it won't be (if Boeing had any said they'd realise the regulators taking their time is going to help this plane in the long run, not least for public reassurance), the planes still all have to g...

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by smartplane
Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters For DL And UA
Replies: 88
Views: 10245

Re: How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters.

flyPIT wrote:
[Qatar Airlines - primarily a passenger airline - just overtook UPS in the global cargo rankings.
https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/top-25-cargo-airlines-fedex-at-the-top-as-qatar-closes-in-on-emirates/

Surely the ranking and volume changes reflect the country's blockade.

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by smartplane
Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters For DL And UA
Replies: 88
Views: 10245

Re: How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters.

I suspect for some areas of the USA and elsewhere, postal mail and private express package services make up a significant amount of the 'belly freight' and helps airlines make money on some flights. The transport of postal mail is why some routes are subsidized under 'essential service' programs li...

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by smartplane
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Why does Boeing staff need to go on-site to perform the firmware upgrade ? This should be a routine procedure that can be done by the qualified engineers employed by each one of the airlines involved. CAF's and ownership hasn't transferred to customers, so unlikely to permit customer's engineers to...

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by smartplane
Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Trump Hosts Meeting b/w QR and the U.S. Carriers
Replies: 135
Views: 15912

Re: Trump Hosts Meeting b/w QR and the U.S. Carriers

Chapter 11 is a bankruptcy law, it costs airlines millions in fees to file, and every country has their own version of it. Isn’t Alitalia in bankruptcy, gee they are in Italy. https://bankruptcy.laws.com/international-laws Funny this article lists numerous countries with bankruptcy laws. https://ww...

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by smartplane
Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2314
Views: 304589

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Production of the 707 ended after 22 years in 1979 according to Wikipedia, although I would argue it's days were already over a decade earlier in 1969 (¹) Thus it never got around to being fitted with high-bypass engines. Decades ago, seem to recall working on an engine funding proposal for GE/Safr...

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by smartplane
Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Trump Hosts Meeting b/w QR and the U.S. Carriers
Replies: 135
Views: 15912

Re: Trump Hosts Meeting b/w QR and the U.S. Carriers

Delta didn’t send anyone interestingly. This is purportedly about Air Italy, of course Delta is poised to own part of AZ and is already in a JV with them. And perhaps another reason, despite the public Delta rhetoric, SkyTeam has been courting EK/FZ for over a decade. Could Delta absence be a sign ...

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by smartplane
Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unverified: Fiji Airways skips 737 MAX quality inspections.
Replies: 118
Views: 19016

Re: Unverified: Fiji Airways skips 737 MAX quality inspections.

None of this is true. 1. As noted, the airplanes are not contracted to Fiji, but rather GECAS. 2. Many customers do not have quality inspectors involved during the production process. A lessee will usually be involved in final sign off, jointly with the lessor. A lessee will not have quality inspec...

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