Presumably that means they'll have to consider installing the new J seat. I haven't seen anything that's indicated they've made a decision on that though. Another 5-6 years with the current product isn't ideal. The only problem is that it's expensive to fit to only 11 aircraft and when it probably ...
Jump to postI would be surprised if KLM opted for the A350-1000. They are phasing out the A330 to become an all-Boeing widebody airline with the 777 and 787 as their workhorses. They decided to get rid of the A330 to have a common cockpit type rating. Adding the A350 would undo that synergy. But then again, th...
Jump to postJust announced: the airlines will take this to the Supreme Court. https://luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/luchtvaart-in-cassatie-tegen-krimp-schiphol Their ultimate goal is to get the shrink plans overturned, but most of all they want certainty as the previous court ruling left many...
Jump to postAir France will be launching daily A350 flights to AUH. Flights will start 29OCT23. Source: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/air-france-klm-group/air-france/air-france-to-introduce-new-flight-connecting-paris-charles-de-gaulle-and-abu-dhabi-in-winter-2023-2024/amp/ Does that mean the end of the c...
Jump to postI love the victim blaming and corporate suck up on here as usual. Then why does BA fly to Johannesburg at all if it's really so dangerous that you literally "can't leave the hotel". Come on guys, please be realistic. Because BA wants to make money. And I am guessing the hotels BA uses are...
Jump to postLagos is...special. Many (local) passengers really dislike being late into Lagos, not because of kissed connections or being home late, but because arriving that late in the night makes it dangerous driving home. Also the huge sign behind the reception at the Sheraton hotel saying "money launde...
Jump to postI don't see why the justice system even comes into it, if the majority in the house are in favor, isn't that democracy ? Its already a highly politicised airport soap opera where corporate and democracy are split down the middle here...let me break this down The government mandated the reductions, ...
Jump to postAccording to government scrutiny, KL didnt held up to their end of the bargain regarding financial state support . Further investigation by the Dutch parliament on the airline will be pending Source: https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/06/klm-criticised-for-not-meeting-coronavirus-bail-out-terms/ If they...
Jump to postKLM and KLM Citihopper are on the same pilot contract. Pilots also switch around between Citihopper and the mainline. Hence why KLM is replacing their 737-700 with E195E2, without the unions being against it as their pilots are on the same contract Not exactly. While the KLC pilots are on a KLM con...
Jump to postDitch the AF Cargo, KL Cargo and cityhopper/hop name and in case of impending strikes: let it only exist on paper to prevent uproar about payment differences. With this you create 4 strong airline names. KLM and KLM Citihopper are on the same pilot contract. Pilots also switch around between Citiho...
Jump to postWhat I do not understand is that KLM says that they will replace there 11 A330's by 2025, but they have only 6 B787-10 on order. They can order more aircraft, but how within 2025. Could some thinner routes in Africa/ME go to 321s as they arrive? Probably not, as KLM has declared not to fly longer d...
Jump to postCan chalk all of that up to labor costs. The EU and Asia have an advantage that the US does not. EU LCCs can and do source a considerable portion of their labor from lower cost countries within the EU. Asian wages are low. US wages are not. Nonesense. U.S. carries can do the same thing (and they do...
Jump to postDuring my career with KL we had dedicated cabin teams, performing cabin maintenance (side walls, windows, seats, carpetting and the IFE system, also involved with (major ) cabin mods. Why not use the present ( unscheduled ?) downtime of PH-BHI and -BHM to perform a (out of sequence) cabin mod ? Bec...
Jump to postWeird that ULCCs have taken off in the EU while it has the vaunted rail network. Having flown Air France, EasyJet and British Airways in Europe, I have to agree, the hard product and service is the same. Choose EasyJet over Ryan because of the stories read here. Might give Ryan a try next year. Bec...
Jump to postAnd the AMS soap opera continues... Seems the Dutch government wont take no as an answer... Infrastructure minister Mark Harbers is to appeal against last week’s court decision which said the government was wrong to order Schiphol to reduce the number of takeoffs and landings by 40,000 this year, a...
Jump to postPeople going to the Masters on private jets does not justify a ban. Banning things is an extreme government action that should only be taken in the most dire of circumstances, and even then only when the action will have obviously favorable consequences. Bans are needed when people are not reasonab...
Jump to postIn the long run if citizens want flights reduced it will happen. They have dozens of choke points to make it happen. Anything for closing a concrete plant, roads to and from the airport, worker hours and wages, hotels near the airport. It really is up to airlines making the political argument that ...
Jump to postThe judge decided Schiphol can't limit flights for 2023/24 as the proper procedures weren't followed. For 2025 and on the state is following procedures and therefor it is still uncertain what will happen to the number of flights. Just to clarify this post for others: - On April 5th, 2023 a Netherla...
Jump to postThe judge decided Schiphol can't limit flights for 2023/24 as the proper procedures weren't followed.
For 2025 and on the state is following procedures and therefor it is still uncertain what will happen to the number of flights.
While 20% of the population consumes 80% of the resources; the 80%of the population wants to consume like the 20%. Saying they can’t is terribly colonialist, as if you know better than they do. The only way to square that circle is economic growth and human ingenuity, not bans. A fascinating view! ...
Jump to post. A private jet carrying 4 people occupies a runway as much as a 777 carrying 300. If the airport is to remain efficient while reducing the amount of movements, it needs to maximize the amount of payload and pax per allowed movement. That's not exactly correct, as the private jets use a runway the ...
Jump to postIf AMS can (or will) only provided staffing for a certain number of flights, then ??? Then they open up the way for lawsuits demanding compensation and fines. Schiphol isn't a private organisation, it's (partly) government with contracts and agreements regulating its operations. While, again, I can...
Jump to post"Schiphol will reduce international flights from 500,000 to 460,000 by November 2023, and will further reduce 20,000 flights by November 2024, all in an effort to reduce its carbon emissions. Many countries throughout Europe have made moves to limit or even ban some regional or short-haul flig...
Jump to postThe -300's will fly until 2029 and will get the premium comfort, the -200's until 2027 and will not get it. But all subject to change of course. Has this been confirmed or is this just a rumor? AFAIK, KLM said when publishing their latest figures that the A330 fleet COULD be kept longer than planne...
Jump to postOne of the pilots I know told me use of the KL A330's will be extended untill 2029, they are studying the feasability to refit those with Premium Comfort aswell The -300's will fly until 2029 and will get the premium comfort, the -200's until 2027 and will not get it. But all subject to change of c...
Jump to postThere are two parties here, airlines and government. The airlines didn't lobby for a ban and are forced to fly around and spend more money. They are being disadvantaged. That being your case then surely it is for the US government to compensate their airlines. Nothing more, nothing less. You forgot...
Jump to postAh diddum's if the ME3 and the rest can can do it safely so be it. The US must of had a say in the no fly rules.now they are crying poor. AN767 There are two parties here, airlines and government. The airlines didn't lobby for a ban and are forced to fly around and spend more money. They are being ...
Jump to postthis is the same thing thqt kappened years ao when a foreign pilot couldn't shoot a non ILS apprpoach at SFO. this airline didn't want pilots to shoot a non ils approach to landing and so? He couln't and crashed the airplane on rwy 28L. I think this thinking wasn't just at that particular airline a...
Jump to post[ It is not just KLM that is taking the Dutch Government to court, IATA is doing the same on behalf of it's member airlines: . . . The decision to cut capacity at Schiphol fails to meet these requirements because: 1) No meaningful consultation was undertaken with industry 2) Flight reductions are b...
Jump to postairbuster wrote:Additionally KLM appears to be willing to extend the A332 use until 2027 and A333 to 2029.
KLM 777-300ER PH-BVO has not been operated since February 27th, see : https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PHBVO/history/20230226/2109Z/HKJK/EHAM Is this for regular maintenance or is this the first (pilot) Business Direct Aisle + Premium Comfort Class Modification. She is inside Hangar 14 yes, prob...
Jump to postThe Government has a point in that (all other things being equal) if there are fewer flights, there will be less noise. I don't think there will be many Tupolev flights flying to/from the Netherlands any time in the next few years :-) I also do not see a quieter A320 being replaced by a noisier B74...
Jump to postWould be interested to know how the Airlines propose to reduce noise and CO2 levels. Have they released this information. Partly by using less noisy airplanes. The government thinks that by reducing the number of flights, they also reduce the noise. But that isn't necessarily true, as noise is heav...
Jump to postNot sure why airlines should have free reign. Any nation should be able to decide its aviation policy, be it expanding airports, or shrinking them. Maybe the Netherlands should just decommission some runways and terminal piers at AMS instead which would create the desired capacity cap instead. &quo...
Jump to postThe Dutch have good reason to be wondering who benefits from AMS. I live in London. Since 2015, I've travelled via AMS 10 times. Only once have I visited a Dutch city for more than an hour. (I don't include sleeping in airport hotels as visiting a city). I've flown KLM just two very short sectors. ...
Jump to postRepost from East African Aviation thread (2023) KLM quite optimistic about Africa. Despite the closures of the routes to Luanda, Windhoek and Mauritius due to the Covid (even if MRU was announced at the end of 2019 I thnk) the airline sees its reservations on the rise and also its capacities. KLM s...
Jump to postKL A330s are also the only widebodies that doesnt have crew rest beds onboard, making them suitable for the 'short' intercontinental routes mentioned above. I believe its required to use the crew rest area if the flight is longer than 8 hours. That last part isn't correct. Legally both the business...
Jump to postWell another way to solve this is to have AMS and KLM adapt from a connection hub to an airport and airline focused on serving Holland. Stop being the waypoint many connect at. This would certainly reduce flight volume and passenger activity. Its not like Europe does not have other hubs, and AFKL h...
Jump to post:stirthepot: At this point, I would give the greens exactly what they want...go all in and close AMS down then see what carnage this would cause to the Country. Well, I still have to live in that country, as well as earn my bread at SPL, so let's no do that ;) But the most vocal on the country prob...
Jump to postThat is a very antagonistic response to the thread. Not all larger aircraft are equally noisy and you know this very well. Fewer aircraft movements in total cumulatively amount to less "noise". Noisier aircraft can be deployed elsewhere in networks and not at those noise constrained airpo...
Jump to postThis is insane Why they dont put caps on private flights? Those are way more polluting per pax than commercial flights This is an interesting (and correct, when given some consideration) postulation. I do see that this space (private aviation) can, perhaps, in future be the easier/quicker to adapt ...
Jump to postA hijack or a unruly passenger banging on the door is quite different. Indeed. I thought the cockpit doors are bullet proof now. So how can a unruly passenger be a threat to such a cockpit door? Or is banging on the cockpit door meant trying to breach it and a reason for a 7500? As I wasn't there, ...
Jump to postCaught word of this earlier in a spotting group I'm in. Apparently, this flight squawked 7500 (which is unusual for this situation) according to ADS-B Exchange along with the RDU Discord. Why would it be unusual? Level 4 is attempted breach of cockpit…7500 is the squawk for a hijack. A hijack or a ...
Jump to postI haven't seen any meaningful discussion about the CREW issues involved in stopping somewhere other than JFK. Yeah, maybe you could ship the folks to NYC to rest, and maybe deadhead the outbound crew to IAH from JFK, but I will bet there are union issues, timing out issues, etc., for the longest-di...
Jump to postI recognize that, it still gives pilots with less experience or with weak intuition something to fall back on. Intuition is not what is needed in a large plane. It is actually dangerous sometimes. Look at your instruments. Information is presented clearly and for everyone to digest. Intuition doesn...
Jump to postI think you are right. The whole issue between MP and KLM pilots is far from resolved. The potential A350 passenger order for KLM would indeed change the dynamic somewhat. Thats sneaky tbh. By buying up those A350F they can effectively force the MP pilots out of their jobs because they dont have an...
Jump to postI think you are right. The whole issue between MP and KLM pilots is far from resolved. The potential A350 passenger order for KLM would indeed change the dynamic somewhat. Thats sneaky tbh. By buying up those A350F they can effectively force the MP pilots out of their jobs because they dont have an...
Jump to postAirlines where national governments are stakeholders usually dont do things necessarily for profitability, you know However, the Dutch government only holds a small part of the KLM stock and relations are... tense right now. While Paris might have influence, KLM really goes for profit, as it will p...
Jump to postA few years back a Fly-Be dash 8 left this runway & broke a MLG during heavy winds. When I worked there the runway was used for NB's during heavy winds, never saw a 777, A330 or even 767. Noise restriction, quota per runway played a role in changing runway use at SPL. The "Schiphol Oost ba...
Jump to postI wonder why this airport does not pave the mud between the access road and the start of the runway. Don't many airports have a big displacement? If it not required, why should they? Airports are build on rules and regulations, not individual assesment of what is more logical. If this runway is aga...
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