Search found 110 matches

by 787X30
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 252
Views: 49172

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

You're welcome, but please consider that these are subjects which could change over the next few months. Long term plans at LH currently feature 3 possible scenarios, rating from good to bad in terms of the return of demand. The 744 could have it's place in one of these scenarios, which I personall...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 252
Views: 49172

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

Yes, most likely. Overall load factor including passengers and cargo was 60.0% on FRA-NRT and 43.1% on FRA-SIN (strictly based on available payload mass , i. e. it is possible that cargo load factor by volume was higher or lower). These numbers include pure cargo flights and are outbound only (can'...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 252
Views: 49172

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

Do we know if LH is still making payments on any of the now-parked A340-600 or A380 aircraft, or are they all paid off? Supervisory Board had to talk about these very fleets because these are still on the books. Depreciation/useful life was changed (group wide) from twelve to 20 years around 2013/1...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France or Sabena on LYS-BRU in 1989?
Replies: 5
Views: 1201

Re: Air France or Sabena on LYS-BRU in 1989?

Neither airline indicated the actual operator in their resp. company timetables disc. 3/25/89. However, it's safe to assume DAT operated the 835/2836 and 833/2834, AF (& friends) doing the remainder of flights. Air France definitely op'ed the 737 from Satolas (eg. starting their weekday with a r...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Majority of LH Shareholders are Voting for Rescue Package
Replies: 515
Views: 64225

Re: Updated: Majority of LH Shareholders are Voting for Rescue Package

Part of 380-crew are already cross-qualified for 350, some who are not to follow, some people will switch to continental flying, then fluctuation, normal and incentivized. 346-crew are c-q on either 333/343 or both, so no automatized shedding here, neither. Slashing fleets equalling slashing senior ...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United ANC-HNL non-stop? (c 1984)
Replies: 34
Views: 4452

Re: United ANC-HNL non-stop? (c 1984)

...United never flew HNL-ANC-HNL, and, after Western discontinued the route (long before the Delta merger), nobody served it until Alaska. According to Western's March 1, 1987 timetable they were operating HNL-ANC v.v. non-stop with DC-10 equipment on a once daily basis in both directions. The DL/W...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Majority of LH Shareholders are Voting for Rescue Package
Replies: 515
Views: 64225

Re: Updated: Majority of LH Shareholders are Voting for Rescue Package

By suddenly retiring most big quads now LH happens to get rid of the most senior, highest paid and most unionized pilots as well. Those were the core of the "troublemakers" from a management standpoint. That depends. Just because LH retires the 744 for example doesn’t necessarily mean the...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: DC 10 configurations
Replies: 24
Views: 6057

Re: DC 10 configurations

Pottok wrote:
What the SR DC 10-30 configuration when Y class was 8 Abreast ?


F22 Y207 in 1983.

Mid cabin Rows 8 to 12, 14 to 19, AB CD_FG HJ;

aft cabin

21 to 32 AB CD_FG HJ,
33 to 35 AB CDFG HJ,
36 AB CDF HJ.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Majority of LH Shareholders are Voting for Rescue Package
Replies: 515
Views: 64225

Re: Lufthansa Group: 10B EUR bailout - Update

Waterbomber2 wrote:
... might want to destroy LH just to make a political statement.

... seems to have a very rightist view, ...

Yes.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Majority of LH Shareholders are Voting for Rescue Package
Replies: 515
Views: 64225

Re: Lufthansa Group: 10B EUR bailout - Update

Blerg wrote:
So who is this Thiele guy? Where does his money come from and what kind of business is he into?

He's an angry old man, now abusing the moment to throw "his" toy at the Federal Government.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue May 05, 2020 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65878

Re: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure

I was not quoting anyone, therefore I did not misquote anyone. I wrote that Lufthansa "apparently prefers to file for bankruptcy" because this is my own opinion. ... The term "apparently" suggests the claimed fact were for everyone to see, thus quite opposite to an opinion - as ...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "
Replies: 79
Views: 11533

Re: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "

But guess what, it didn't happen and now the same people who let this thing run ammock want to go back to business as usual to make it worse. Quite so. Pennies were too expensive . And while, when we consider what we are still in as the first wave, there is room and reason to assume this first wave...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "
Replies: 79
Views: 11533

Re: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "

Let people who are anxious stay home , let those willing to wear masks fly , it’s simple really Another try at demeaning those "anxious". Let me put that straight: the "not anxious" will make sick those who understand the physics of an epidemic. You "not anxious" will ...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "
Replies: 79
Views: 11533

Re: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "

oldJoe wrote:
I do wonder where MOL wants to get his 90% load factor from ?

The herd immunity crowd are burning for getting back to their, quote, normal lives.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "
Replies: 79
Views: 11533

Re: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "

smartplane wrote:
IATA guideline:

XOO OXO
OXO OOX
XOO OXO

Aisle seats not used to avoid contamination from crew working, and passengers accessing toilets.


That amounts to less than 100cm (<80 pitch, <60 across) in Eco. Not good enough imo. CoV won't negotiate b/c it's airlines.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "
Replies: 79
Views: 11533

Re: MoL - leaving middle seat empty " idiotic "

Just fly them with 50% load factors? Distances in cabin need to be restricted to epidemiologically benign levels. Factually . Prices will go up. Airports will be spacious enough for the remaining demand, automatically. In my humble opinion, airlines and other industry sources propagating to slap a ...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Lufthansa To Delay 777Xs For 777Fs - MD-11F Retirement Postponed
Replies: 34
Views: 12426

Re: Rumor: Lufthansa To Delay 777Xs For 777Fs - MD-11F Retirement Postponed

... I was actually thinking about the 787-9 as a solution for the 343/346 issue: similar capacity but superior economics and range. ... The 789 will very much be the 343 of the future. 744/346 will be covered by 779 (selected) or 351 (deselected for now). To date, there are 13 779 for 13 744, and s...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65878

Re: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure

Is (a smaller) Delta so eager to get foot back into German transatlantic markets? Who'd have guessed.

With Covid affecting the elderly most badly (they say), wouldn't Delta's 767 shorties be among the most vulnerable to bite a bullet?

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Lufthansa To Delay 777Xs For 777Fs - MD-11F Retirement Postponed
Replies: 34
Views: 12426

Re: Rumor: Lufthansa To Delay 777Xs For 777Fs - MD-11F Retirement Postponed

DUSZRH wrote:
It suggests swapping some 77X for 77F. 5 would be a heck of an expansion already. [...]


Not so much, comparing all the cut belly capa. The cargo to pax ratio surging drastically points to re-balancing fleet to keep in biz.

Thus, bye A346 & hello again M11F. (Iso vv.)

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 252
Views: 49172

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

stylo777 wrote:
... completely paid off ...


The youngest one will reach its 11 years in May, so the fleet is by no means written down. Write-down at LH occurs over 20 years (iso 12) since Jan 1st 2013, when the oldest 346 was younger than 10 years, thus not written down either.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 252
Views: 49172

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

To put a drop of realism to this, Lufthansa just announced halting YUL for reasons of sustainability, leaving service to EWR, ORD, GRU, BKK, HND, totalling 15/7. https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/english/newsroom/news-releases/lufthansa-group-extends-repatriation-flight-schedule--until-17-may/s/41...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65878

Re: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure

I'll be happy to correct the Muller/Spaeth babble: Buying expensive new planes that don't pay for themselves is a huge burden in a time of grossly negative free cash flow and ample dirt-cheap used aircraft and low fuel prices. Might look different when you're used to not be the one paying for what ...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65878

Re: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure

LH is indirectly responsible for not allowing the ME3 into Germany, they lobbied the german government against competition so that it can protect itself and now look at how it turned out, its getting a bailout from the government. The German goverment should most definitely open its borders to the ...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65878

Re: Lufthansa Group restructuring announced

Were the costs of “real” Germanwings staff higher than those for Eurowings? Absent "unreal" Germanwings' staff, a good chunk of their people kept close to their LH conditions when their stations (like DUS) were transferred to 4U around 2013/14. As an option, you could move to LH's hubs to...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH Group fleet groundings, Germanwings closure
Replies: 356
Views: 65878

Re: Lufthansa Retiring Some A380s, A340s, 747s, and A320s

AirbusOnly wrote:
... knowing full well that 4-engine aircraft is a species that is unfortunately dying out


Let's never forget to greet Gessler's hat.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LH Cargo considers prolonging lifespan of MD-11F's
Replies: 164
Views: 45601

Re: Lufthansa Cargo considers retiring all MD-11s in 2020

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Funny how once again they didn't land right away. They overflew the runway at about 2700ft and 138kts before doing a sharp left turn and climbing to 4200ft and now they are again on final to VCV after another sharp left turn.

Ah those dreaded desert winds... better be MA-minded... :mischievous:

Jump to post
by 787X30
Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LH Cargo considers prolonging lifespan of MD-11F's
Replies: 164
Views: 45601

Re: Lufthansa Cargo considers retiring all MD-11s in 2020

69bug wrote:
[...] While LH aircraft are not exactly low-time, they are the last few MD-11 made (some were bought used though) and LH have a reputation for keeping on top of maintenance. [...]

All used ones are gone from fleet since 2014/5. All remaining are built-newly-for-LH freighters.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pictures surfacing of 777X Sept Test Failure
Replies: 308
Views: 61960

Re: Pictures surfacing of 777X Sept Test Failure - they are Bad

They certainly were not telling the world how their wiring was mysteriously not hooking together properly for example. This was information learned after the fact after Airbus identified and fixed the problem while being vague on details of the delays. Not how I remember it at all. There were a cou...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pictures surfacing of 777X Sept Test Failure
Replies: 308
Views: 61960

Re: Pictures surfacing of 777X Sept Test Failure

... may have contributed to the deaths of 300+ passengers, ... Nah... let's say "to an issue that arose to less than one percent of max's pax's dignity", shall we. While I don't like the efforts to manifest that "one-percent-criterion" into our heads - when 1.48 reached from 1.5...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA accuses Lufthansa of illegal flights
Replies: 112
Views: 22154

Re: FAA accuses Lufthansa of illegal flights

They had authority to operate the flights the issue was with the aircraft they were using. Yes - the type of aircraft matters. SAN was supposed to be a 330 but operated by A340 and PHL approved as a330 but operated by a 747. The C070 can have different aircraft authorizations for different airports...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA accuses Lufthansa of illegal flights
Replies: 112
Views: 22154

Re: FAA accuses Lufthansa of illegal flights

They had authority to operate the flights the issue was with the aircraft they were using. Yes - the type of aircraft matters. SAN was supposed to be a 330 but operated by A340 and PHL approved as a330 but operated by a 747. The C070 can have different aircraft authorizations for different airports...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA accuses Lufthansa of illegal flights
Replies: 112
Views: 22154

Re: FAA accuses Lufthansa of illegal flights

I've never heard of LH CityLine before. Can you someone tell me about this? Is this their low cost subsidiary? Is the purpose of CityLine to fly to destinations that would not be profitable if flown by mainline LH? Basically, it's their American Eagle. After operating as a fully owned intra-Euro-su...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: SAS presenting new livery
Replies: 597
Views: 143434

Re: Updated: SAS presenting new livery

VSMUT wrote:
... Definitely a Lufthansa rip off. ...

Or according to a Star Alliance style manual?

Oh wait ... "Alliances are dead." Yu'. Forgot, sorry.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: JAL longhaul LCC ZIPAIR discussion
Replies: 255
Views: 39948

Re: JAL longhaul LCC = ZIPAIR

... and it will grow on us.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH dropping JED
Replies: 23
Views: 6842

Re: LH dropping JED

IrishAyes wrote:
...

This is a pretty core route, but indeed my guess is that it is a casualty of MBS labor system overhauls. ...

Fifty years, well into the 51st. Served from May 7th, 69 as 2nd route to KSA, after Dhahran.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BER News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 469
Views: 79583

Re: BER News and Discussion Thread

Closing TXL would be a mistake. Why does it still need to be done? The political rulings can be changed. Nobody needs to respect the known errors of former mayor Wowereit these days anymore. Wowereit had no role in Konsensbeschluss of 1996, the proponents and participants of which were then Gov. Ma...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: German Aviation Thread 2019
Replies: 51
Views: 7952

Re: German Aviation Thread 2019

Ah, the German Lobby.

(Your link holds no info to support your claim.)

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: German Aviation Thread 2019
Replies: 51
Views: 7952

Re: German Aviation Thread 2019

DLHAM wrote:
Or Emirates if they manage to get permission, once they operate 787/330neo.

EK have all permission they could want.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: German Aviation Thread 2019
Replies: 51
Views: 7952

Re: German Aviation Thread 2019

DLHAM wrote:
... or Emirates it they manage to get permission to fly DXB-HAM-JFK.


They have it already, flew it already, failed it already.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook
Replies: 177
Views: 29187

Re: Condor and its links to Thomas Cook

... TCUK staff are insistent they were always told at group conferences that Condor was NOT making a profit. What are the known facts ? The prospect of the gov loan to Condor (but none to TCUK) is a good reason to assume Condor is more viable than TCUK painted them. When TCUK found their 750 millio...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LY to launch DUB and DUS
Replies: 8
Views: 2818

Re: LY to launch DUB and DUS

Wow, just wow. ... I'm almost curtain LY flew to DUS at some point... I seem to remember LY flew scheduled to DUS for a moment in time, though they've been recurrent under different charter arrangements, including LY5xxxx flight no.s, including mainline metal. Though their scheduled point of entry ...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group posts 1H loss on LCC competition, fuel costs
Replies: 90
Views: 13432

Re: Lufthansa Group posts 1H loss on LCC competition, fuel costs

The A346 were the most efficient path when acquired, while it's not too efficient to buy yet another most efficient option every other day...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF applies for YVR-PPT
Replies: 33
Views: 7861

Re: AF applies for YVR-PPT

The shortest route between CDG-PPT goes almost directly over YVR,. [...] But almost directliest over LAX. :scratchchin: [...] International to international is far more smooth in Canada than it is in the USA as passengers don't have to pass through immigration. Point taken, but wouldn't contrafactu...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF applies for YVR-PPT
Replies: 33
Views: 7861

Re: AF applies for YVR-PPT

9252fly wrote:
The shortest route between CDG-PPT goes almost directly over YVR,. [...]

But almost directliest over LAX. :scratchchin:

Jump to post
by 787X30
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Berlin Mayor wants Emirates in Berlin
Replies: 42
Views: 6849

Re: Berlin Mayor wants Emirates in Berlin

Fact check: Berlin has EgyptAir, Royal Jordanian, Qatar and Turkish in that area.

Shows the no-competition-argument as a fairy tale, and a pretty tired one.

Lufty's competition in Berlin is the stiffest of any its German stations.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH will look at A321XLR, but it's no game-changer: CEO
Replies: 183
Views: 27106

Re: LH will look at A321XLR, but it's no game-changer: CEO

The comfort issue is a way of saying ... It seems Boeing have cancelled the third/fourth engines since the game changing 707, but not the second aisle since the game changing 747. Why? In essence LH is saying XLR doesn't have the right revenue generating potential to work for them. In essence, an i...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EY sends first A350 to storage
Replies: 28
Views: 12159

Re: EY sends first A350 to storage

It's very hard to say what the Plans are for the UAE, Abu Dhabi, and Qatar might be suffice to say they haven't as of yet merged. (which maybe they could and should do since their Turf is so close, ) They do not give the Idea that their total strategy is get known were they TO merge? They could bec...

Jump to post
by 787X30
Fri May 17, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways under fire for offering a new “afternoon tea” that doesn’t come with any tea
Replies: 146
Views: 24576

Re: British Airways under fire for offering a new “afternoon tea” that doesn’t come with any tea

Heinkel wrote:
In a dutch coffee shop, they are serving different things. AFAIK tea is not on the menu.

It is, but somehow they put it in their fags. So, surprisingly, water doesn't come free in the Netherlands either.

Jump to post
by 787X30
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 385221

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

tommyarias wrote:
.... The feeling at CM is that the livery would devalue the brand, making it look more of a LLC than a legacy carrier. ...

It'll grow on them. :stirthepot:

Jump to post