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by speedking
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2349
Views: 310130

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

My god, it seems that in this thread every possible component of the 737 MAX has been dissected, scrutinized and debated. I can't believe that there's anything left to discuss but I suspect some people will always find something else to analyze. This thread is now on its 40th and still counting pag...

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by speedking
Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2349
Views: 310130

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

One of the safest airplanes ever to fly is arrogant for me and it implies that the MAX always has been safe. One or two posters likely would call his words hyperbole, click-bait or BS if they were not pro. And, of course any interpretation you make is not allowed unless its on the pro side. You cou...

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by speedking
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2349
Views: 310130

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SPEEA engineer breaks silence on Boeing's MAX 737. Read this letter https://www.kuow.org/stories/boeing-engineers-break-silence-on-max-737-read-this-letter Incredible. Truly The Cheapest. A Bombay-Boeing from Walmart. Long gone are the Days of Glory! A Tata Nano might take you cheaply from a point ...

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by speedking
Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2349
Views: 310130

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No one should hope for that. It'd take ~half the narrow body airliner production out of the market for ~five years and lay waste to lots of airline's plans. Would it? Would they not just sell NG’s again, not ideal but can’t see them not producing /selling anything? A few problems with that idea. Fi...

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by speedking
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2349
Views: 310130

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Interesting standards. We're OK with bad journalism at the headline and intro level as long as we eventually find good journalism? Evidence shows that most people won't wait for the good journalism to show up, they'll just run with the bad journalism. Look. I don't disagree with your general beef w...

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by speedking
Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

https://eyelighting.com/made-vs-manufactured-in-usa
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737MAX: Made in the USA no more? Now Assembled in the USA. Designed in India?

https://eyelighting.com/made-vs-manufactured-in-usa

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by speedking
Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers (Use incognito to get past paywall) America’s favorite form of cost-cutting finally comes home to roost. Incredible. 737MAX, designed by third world engineers. The Cheapest.

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by speedking
Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Today a planes safety is not determined by miles flown but posts in social media. or by the number of hull losses with all souls lost. WHich is somewhat proportional to social media activity Yes. If one wants to look safe, stay away from social media by making planes that don't crash. Ten million m...

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by speedking
Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Today a planes safety is not determined by miles flown but posts in social media.

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by speedking
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

I believe we all agree that everything around 737MAX is the cheapest in the industry?

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by speedking
Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

par13del wrote:
Since the main issue is related to the MAX and its similarity to the NG, it would have been good to have more current NG experts versus Airbus.
Just a thought


Yes. Unfortunately the 2 pilots most experienced with MAX are not here anymore.

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by speedking
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

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The quest to make it possible for everybody to fly. Needs to be cheap. Tickets, planes, training, pilots. All cheap.
Cheap is not good. Need government to regulate. Is like socialism. Instead of winning, all are losing.
For those who have, is there an option?

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by speedking
Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

For one, I would say exact same thing if Boeing, Airbus, Toyota, Ford, or Sukhoi are involved: engineer making an honest mistake in design, which was not caught in test, can face a lot of professional consequences - but there should be no criminal consequences. Same with pilots, who survive their c...

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by speedking
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

i think the Industry's big problem is how complex these machine are getting or how little one person knows about the whole design. There needs to be CZAR's who are in charge of the design - who have flight and engineering experience - Not an MBA - who have the ability to say - wait a second - this ...

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by speedking
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Does extended time mean a more robust fix? Or just red tape and skepticism in getting it re-certified? Ironically, Boeing is facing almost the same problem as pilots of crashed flights. There is something crazy going on, they lost control of events, and there is no understanding of where to go, as ...

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by speedking
Wed May 08, 2019 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Problem with training. What are we actually talking about?
- The airlines are stupid as not providing opportunities for the pilots to learn?
- The teachers are stupid as they cannot provide good training?
- The pilots are stupid and cannot be trained?

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by speedking
Tue May 07, 2019 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385216

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

You're exactly correct. If a stick shaker is active, you don't want the crew doing an analysis. One or both, the procedure is the same. If you will, deviation from prescribed procedure can be an honest mistake, an evil wrongdoing, or a thoughtful analysis - or anything in between. For some reason, ...

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by speedking
Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

There are reports from MAX and NG pilots that within normal operating speeds the manual trim wheel works fine and no unusual effort is needed. You can see the mentour pilot YouTube video. They were in normal flight operating speeds and the effort required to manually trim was surprising. The manual...

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by speedking
Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

If the manual trim works as advertised, the 737 can be safely flown home independent what happens on the electrical / automation system. Just switch everything off. What has to be determined for the 737 is the exact force needed to rotate the manual trim wheel in comparison with speed, altitude, tri...

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by speedking
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Yes, I am blaming the pilots. I am a pilot (although not an airline pilot) and I know enough that if I am getting uncommanded trim inputs to PULL THE BLEEPING BREAKER (or in this case flip the bleeping switch). A pilot who can’t figure that out has no business flying any plane. Not in your perfect ...

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by speedking
Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I agree this is a training problem in the end. Physical training specifically. If the pilots were strong enough, they could have saved the plane by using the manual trim wheels as they are supposed to do as final backup when all the automation and electrical systems have failed.

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by speedking
Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

According to https://www.satcom.guru/2018/11/stabilizer-trim.html the column cutout switches would disable any electric trim if the column is moved enough to compensate wrong trim. At which column position would this happen? Is it so that during the last 20 seconds of the final dive when the pilots ...

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by speedking
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

aerolimani wrote:
speedbored wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me if they also get told to do some work around the manual trim wheel.

Pilots will be given a 24V cordless drill to attach to the trim wheel, if they are having problems turning it manually. :roll:


Sorry. No large capacity batteries allowed onboard.

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by speedking
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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The problem with pilots seem to be even bigger than was thought. Either they are so bad that they cannot fly the plane or if they are good, they don't wish.

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by speedking
Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

[ You would have to think if he(FO) was having physical difficulty moving it he would have asked for help and not given up after 8 seconds - just like the pilot was asking for help with the control column from time to time. The First Officer had just been through the Sim (end of Jan) so presumably ...

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by speedking
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I wonder why Boeing designed the Final Gatekeeper, the manual trim wheel system, so poorly that it is impossible to use in the whole flight envelope and a bit more to really make sure that you can save the plane if all automation and electrical system fails? What if you are in the high end of the en...

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by speedking
Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

What else they didn't know to do properly or saved money from? Pylons made from balsa? Can you trust anything in this plane?

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by speedking
Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
barney captain wrote:
Current 737 CA, 15,000 hrs on type. ;)


Hugely humbled, and grateful for your indulgence.

Me? Big fat zero hours on type, and the last stall training I did was so long ago that the logbook entry was in latin, and my check pilot was Daedulus.


You guys getting married or what?

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by speedking
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Or... maybe no one realized it was that bad/a big deal.. like leaded gas or paint.. or asbestos... or all the other stupid in hindsight mistakes man as made (I used three examples but there are literally ... at least millions that someone could cite) Are you trying to be obtuse? Boeing knew of the ...

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by speedking
Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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I don't trust in any corporation or need any government to tell me what to do. Do you? In the end only the ones who know how to think for themselves, survive. Let me guess: You're a doomsday prepper. :bored: Yes, you could say that. If that unfortunate day arrives, it is easy for me though, luckily...

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by speedking
Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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Also, once the MAX are back in service for a few months with no more issues (hopefully), everyone will forget about it. If I were Boeing I'd rebrand the MAX as just 737-7, 737-8, 737-9 and 737-10. Non-aviation people won't associate them. I believe some people have underestimated the power of the i...

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by speedking
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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In the US, that means avoiding three of the four largest airlines in the country. I doubt people will educate themselves sufficiently to truly avoid the MAX. It sure doesn't help the paranoia, however, that many airlines share safety cards between ex. 737-800 and MAX8. Every day people are tweeting...

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by speedking
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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[*] He is not totally wrong though. The general masses focus on 3 words in such a headline. Boeing, 737 and MAX. It just doesn’t helps Boeing, even if the cause in unrelated to them. This. I was at work today and someone who barely knows that planes have wings was talking about it. You make a lot o...

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by speedking
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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Oh I agree 100% and it looks horrible for Boeing that they offered extra safety features at an additional cost. That is like a car manufacturer charging extra for airbags and seat belts Or build a car with an ABS system with only one speed sensor in one wheel. If it breaks, the ABS will brake the c...

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by speedking
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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Well I think there have been incidents in North America regarding MCAS but no crashes thankfully, I would chalk this up to the US, Canada, Europe etc. have pilots whom started on Cessna's and learned worked their way up to the airlines or were military/air force pilots. They know how to fly first a...

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by speedking
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?
Replies: 102
Views: 12937

Re: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?

According to this leaked cable from a few years ago, the Finnish government tried to get Finnair to purchase aircraft that could double as refueling tankers for their fighter jets. https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07HELSINKI61_a.html Are you just throwing that out here to have an argument or have...

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by speedking
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?
Replies: 102
Views: 12937

Re: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?

Never say never. The government of Finland is looking for a replacement for their F/A-18 Hornet fighters in the next few years. Maybe if they would choose F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, they would get a deal with Boeing for 787 that they cannot refuse. NATO...mafia...you know... Further thought: If Finlan...

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by speedking
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?
Replies: 102
Views: 12937

Re: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?

Never say never. The government of Finland is looking for a replacement for their F/A-18 Hornet fighters in the next few years. Maybe if they would choose F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, they would get a deal with Boeing for 787 that they cannot refuse. NATO...mafia...you know... Further thought: If Finlan...

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by speedking
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?
Replies: 102
Views: 12937

Re: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?

Never say never. The government of Finland is looking for a replacement for their F/A-18 Hornet fighters in the next few years. Maybe if they would choose F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, they would get a deal with Boeing for 787 that they cannot refuse. NATO...mafia...you know...

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by speedking
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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People tend to be binary with statements like "Boeing made no mistakes, it's all the pilots" or "The 737 MAX is a flawed kludge, it should be scrapped". Unfortunately for binary thinkers, reality is almost always somewhere in the middle. IMHO: 1 - Boeing royally F'd up MCAS, per...

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by speedking
Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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Re: fixes. If the root cause of the problem is really the destabilizing pitching moment generated by the aerodynamic lift of the nacelles, they could try to disrupt the flow at high AoA so that the nacelle stalls before the rest of the aircraft does. This could perhaps take the form of spoilers aro...

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by speedking
Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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And so what about his background? That doesn't have anything to do with him of using a msgboard post as a basis for some theory about run away dive mechanics on a 737. Well, given he noted his personal experience of it (in a hydraulically actuated aircraft), then I think he's probably somewhat awar...

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by speedking
Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

This whole thing is boiling down to the airlines wishing to control costs of introducing the MAX by skimping out on training and Boeing not fully informing the airlines of the MCAS system and how it worls and how it can fail etc. Boeing also did not properly explain the MCAS system in the flight ma...

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by speedking
Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716042

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If U.S. authorities are unwilling to take legal (criminal) actions against Boeing executives e.g. Muilenburg maybe other countries can act? Maybe put out a European Arrest Warrant or something. It would prevent him visiting Paris / Farnborough etc. Appropriate parties are investigating this whole t...

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by speedking
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I was wrong of course, not 30 but 17. The value 240 must also be wrong. Searching more I found a range from 40 to 268. But I defer to 7BOEING7 with around 50, he is the expert. And from low altitude and high speed, one has maybe 30 seconds until fiery death. Better spin that wheel fast! Or you coul...

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by speedking
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Backseater wrote:
I was wrong of course, not 30 but 17. The value 240 must also be wrong. Searching more I found a range from 40 to 268.
But I defer to 7BOEING7 with around 50, he is the expert.


And from low altitude and high speed, one has maybe 30 seconds until fiery death. Better spin that wheel fast!

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by speedking
Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

How much dive angle? Dive recovery is a turn which depends on G and TAS. GF Good question. How much dive angle you get with for example with a 2.5 deg trim at that speed and altitude? How much was the angle in the last Lion Air dive? Estimated TAS would be 400kts from 2000ft altitude. The math goes...

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by speedking
Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Yeah, thanks. What I'm looking for is something a bit more scientific. Something like: The trim moves x degrees per sec which causes the plane deviate from the altitude this many ft per sec. If you are busy for something else than looking at the view and don't counteract the MCAS control. MCAS move...

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by speedking
Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

How fast can you out the windscreen and notice the horizon getting worryingly high up the view? I’d say a couple of seconds. GF Yeah, thanks. What I'm looking for is something a bit more scientific. Something like: The trim moves x degrees per sec which causes the plane deviate from the altitude th...

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by speedking
Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718193

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

How fast can you out the windscreen and notice the horizon getting worryingly high up the view? I’d say a couple of seconds. GF Yeah, thanks. What I'm looking for is something a bit more scientific. Something like: The trim moves x degrees per sec which causes the plane deviate from the altitude th...

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