Unfortunate news for Airbus, its employees, its suppliers, and the entire industry. Another ripple in the pond.
We. Are. Just. Getting. Started. With. This. Folks.
I honestly think we are looking at a 5-10 year recovery to get anywhere close to 2019 numbers on a global scale. Based on what? Just curious. That brings us out to 2025-2030, and I think it is only fair to ask what factors you use to make a prediction that bold It took WWII for the US to finally ge...Jump to post
My belief is that we will look back at these summer 2020 days as the 'best of times' with respect to the arch of this pandemic and its ramifications. 50% or more of the members of this forum will have lost their job, their house, their health insurance, their retirement plan, or all the above, by s...Jump to post
My belief is that we will look back at these summer 2020 days as the 'best of times' with respect to the arch of this pandemic and its ramifications. 50% or more of the members of this forum will have lost their job, their house, their health insurance, their retirement plan, or all the above, by su...Jump to post
Another MOM thread... Did we need another one this week?Jump to post
They just took delivery of some 77Ws and also have 772s and a slew of 787s. No need for a a350 right now. When the 777 replacement cycle hits, then the a350 will fit in nicely. My uneducated guess is the oldest 77Es will be starting to go out in 2027 at the earliest which will give time for the A35...Jump to post
LH should give its newest, used A333s and A32Xs to OS/SN/EW and create one LCC with three liveries based on two frames. LH should then replace its A343/A333 with B789/B78Js. No, LH has not (yet) cancelled or deferred its B787/B779 order. If so, show me a link. Otherwise, it's just wishful thinking.Jump to post
The EU is playing this recovery much smarter than the US. In the US, it's about corporate welfare to maintain the status quo. In the EU, it appears to be targeted at R&D and climate change. Great news for Airbus. If they can deliver the first carbon neutral AC. That's a huge milestone and leaves...Jump to post
This strikes me as a move made from desperation. The 777x passenger jet program is languishing. Following the strategy Boeing used with the 747-8, they are attempting to use the cargo business to keep the line alive. Given that the 777 is so heavy, it is well suited to freighter usage. Link that th...Jump to post
Can a 777-8P haul same/more (?) PAX + same/more cargo tonnage (?) a same/further distance (?) than a A35K/ULR for Project Sunrise?Jump to post
I apologise if my previous post offended anyone. It was mean to be completely sarcastic, but I guess that didn't come through.Jump to post
The 744 is next. Expect the last frames to leave as the first 2 777X arrive next year, if not sooner. Currently only VM, VW, VY and VZ have no retirement planned. The plan in April was to retire VO, VP, VR VS and VT only! If the first 777-9 arrive next year isnt clear. LH is trying to defer deliver...Jump to post
I am living under the flight path to JFK, and see a lot of Chinese planes flying into NYC; CA981 PEK-JFK 773 just flew overhead. Those contrails really give a new meaning to the word "lifeline"... My biggest question is if US stocked up enough masks for such harsh action... Well, they jus...Jump to post
I see some Airbus orders on the horizon. Exactly. Next move is that China will forbid their airlines from purchasing Boeing aircraft. Good news for Airbus, bad news for the EU, which refuses to play hardball with China. For all of his faults, I appreciate Trump standing up to China. I just question...Jump to post
TropicalSky wrote:Question-why are there very small windows every few rows starting just prior to door #2?Opus99 wrote:https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/1267685544517005317?s=21
WH003 in her full glory!
I must say I love this white livery
So wait a minute. Pre-Covid they couldn't afford them. Post-Covid, the freight/cargo market has turned, and now they realize they could turn a profit with them and are now pissed at Boeing? Makes perfect sense!Jump to post
Wonder what the impact will be on 748I used market values and potential P2F programs for the few 748Is out there. Might give incentive to LH/KE/CA to offload them earlier?
Agreed that the market is not there for Boeing to spend the money. They want to focus on the 77F/778F/767F-NG.
According to Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tamarathiessen/2020/05/18/air-travel-prices-set-to-double-us-europe/#409fffa617d0 This will put travel out the realm of possibility for most of the (American) middle class and even be cost prohibitive for most business travel. Will the airlines take ...Jump to post
I am optimistically going to say that one the reasons why the 778 is "dying" in pax form is because the 779 will meet the 778 range target with full pax and bags/cargo. It will be a beast. The 778 will still be the basis for an amazing freighter replacement of the 777F.Jump to post
First of many WB cancellations to come.Jump to post
In a normal world, Boeing wouldn't say anything but a comment would leak via STC or some other CEO. But the world is not normal and I would expect orders for all WBs to contract. Besides, has Airbus said anything official to date about the A359/35K meeting or exceeding its performance goals? Sorry b...Jump to post
To date LH has only outlined its 01JUN-14JUN schedule, which sees some longhaul flying return, but 747-400, A340-600 and A380 fleets remain entirely grounded. Limited A333, A343, A359 and B748 flying. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/291311/lufthansa-01-14jun20-operations-as-of-14m...Jump to post
If LH can't balance its fleet needs in the most efficient manner while have to buy from only one vendor, Boeing will obviously get the short end of the stick. While I guess more Germans will remain employed by Airbus, the German taxpayers will be paying more for planes. I hope Trump retaliates: Boei...Jump to post
Doesn't bode well for the 77X either.Jump to post
The 748 was built to add pricing pressure on the A380, similar to how the A330neo does the same with the 787. Boeing launched the 748F first, which tells you something else. The 748F ain't dead yet.Jump to post
Spetsnaz55 wrote:Flight test 4 has engines on now.
That makes all 4 flight test planes with engines .
3 is coming out any day now
They certainly could get 100 MAXs faster than 100 A220s - even recognizing the A220s they have on order. 1. But only the A220 is allowed to fly, the MAX is grounded. 2. The A220 offers more cabin comfort for passengers. 3. Passengers won't trust travelling onboard the MAX. 1. True. 2. In a Covid er...Jump to post
You don't get it. Whether it's COVID, some other pandemic, or climate change, the prevailing trend will be to separate society in many ways, including those who can travel to the real place, experience it without crowds, and receive a luxurious experience, versus those who will have to settle for th...Jump to post
Six pages of speculative posts, and nobody has mentioned one very-obvious marketing potential for the 717 at a time of COVID-19: One Hundred Percent Fresh Air. Zero recirculated air. Or maybe that just emphasizes that most other aircraft have some level of recirculation. Back in the day when I woul...Jump to post
From a simplification perspective would it not be wiser to push Airbus into developing an A225 instead of adding another type to the fleet? Good luck getting Airbus to spend $ billions on a new derivative just now. Let me fix that for you: Good luck getting Airbus to spend $ billions on a new deriv...Jump to post
The 757 can't do containers. For that reason any rebirth of the frame is stillborn. You can design container-capability into it by creating a specialized container or designing it to use existing AKH containers like the A320 family. And there is a picture of a TWA or Western 727 that is loading con...Jump to post
The 757 can't do containers. For that reason any rebirth of the frame is stillborn.Jump to post
Predicting DL will retire all Boeing aircraft and be strictly an Airbus user by 2025-29 I know this is the dream of so many fans but I predict you are wrong. Delta won't ignore the ultra cheap MAX deal and I assure you that some sort of mix of Boeing 787/767-NG/757-MG/MOM/NMA will find its way to D...Jump to post
As the Germans say, "Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt." Hope is the last to die. I've been keeping my sanity through all this by clutching to the hope that we could still fly to Athens, Greece in August for vacation. I just learned that United has cancelled its EWR-ATH segment for this summer. ...Jump to post
So this is evolving into two frames, both with trickle-down 787/77X technologies: 767F-NG: -300 length, new wing, similar size as the original wing, new wingbox, de-rated 787 engines. 767P-NG: -200 length, new wing, smaller size than original wing, new wingbox, even more de-rated 87 engines. I am no...Jump to post
The amount of psychological damage that people are suffering during this, be it through job loss, isolation, domestic abuse, illness, or all of the above, is the new Mount Everest we have before us as the clouds begin to clear. The amount of suicides, even in strange ways such as this and even the Q...Jump to post
Weren't the original 757 and 767 built on the same line? Maybe Boeing is considering a modern reincarnation. In fact, I think I made a post about that over a year ago.Jump to post
There has been a lot of unsubstantiated doom and gloom spewed about the 777-9. I'd like to offer a counter hypothesis: The bird will over perform. It will surpass expectations. The reason the 778 is being downplayed is because the 779 will have the capacity and the range to do what the 778 can do. ...Jump to post
The lack of commentary about the 777X is truly the elephant in the room. He is also the largest customer for it, and if i am Boeing reading this, I would be alarmed. STC clearly mentions the A350/787 so my guess is that he will attempt to convert at least 50% of his 777X orders to the 787. If I am B...Jump to post