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by PB26
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:42 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?
Replies: 17
Views: 4497

Re: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?

Wow, didn't know about Korean 747 here in Brazil! You guys forgot one: LAX-GRU-GIG-LAX with United's 747SP, flew between Oct 93 and April 94, short-time and the only time UA flew from Cali to Brazil! It's true, it was short-lived. Only time flew non-stop from California to Brazil, but in 2000 they ...

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by PB26
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:52 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?
Replies: 17
Views: 4497

Re: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?

JL flew GIG-LAX in the late 80's. Yup, maybe one month after Varig's first GIG-LAX. It appear that the LAX-Brazil flights were truly based on demand between Japan and Brazil. LAX was a convenient stopover. I wonder if this was tied to the significant immigration from Japan to Brazil. Even though im...

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by PB26
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:19 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?
Replies: 17
Views: 4497

Re: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?

Sorry for double post... I know for sure VASP had GRU-LAX nonstop by early 90 (91/92'ish) first on DC-10, then later on MD-11. Now lets not forget JAL with their DC-8s. They ran LAX-VCP in early 80s with various tech stops such as MIA, SJU and such, but I want to say atleast for some period of the y...

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by PB26
Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:02 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?
Replies: 17
Views: 4497

Re: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?

Varig began flew non-stop from Los Angeles to Brazil in November 1984, the twice weekly RG830 GIG-LAX-NRT with DC 10-30.

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by PB26
Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Latam and Azul codeshare agreement in Brazil
Replies: 26
Views: 2934

Re: Latam and Azul codeshare agreement in Brazil

Merger with Azul is not ruled out, says president of Latam. Cadier also admitted that a merger with Azul may even take place in the future. He explained that the negotiations for an eventual union of the two companies are complex and unfeasible at the moment because of the crisis, while the "c...

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by PB26
Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Non photographed airliners?
Replies: 37
Views: 6238

Re: Non photographed airliners?

Panair do Brasil's DC-7C PP-PEH.

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by PB26
Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Luanda in the 1980s/90s
Replies: 23
Views: 4355

Re: Luanda in the 1980s/90s

Varig in 1986 flew one-weekly GIG-LAD and bi-monthly the flight reached MPM. Varig's flight landed around 8 am in LAD and took off around 2 ok to Rio de Janeiro, so I suppose the crew didn't stay in any hotel, perhaps there were two crews. Okay thank you that is very interesting. If there were two ...

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by PB26
Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Luanda in the 1980s/90s
Replies: 23
Views: 4355

Re: Luanda in the 1980s/90s

Varig in 1986 flew one-weekly GIG-LAD and bi-monthly the flight reached MPM.

Varig's flight landed around 8 am in LAD and took off around 2 ok to Rio de Janeiro, so I suppose the crew didn't stay in any hotel, perhaps there were two crews.

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by PB26
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread
Replies: 124
Views: 15438

Re: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread

Caravelle was Varig's first jet, when the PP-VJC arrived in Brazil in September 1959, inaurating the longest Caravelle flight, from Buenos Aires to New York via Porto Alegre, São Paulo Congonhas, Rio de Janeiro Galeão, Belém, Port of Spain, Nassau and finally Idlewild. Cruzeiro do Sul flew seven VI-...

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by PB26
Tue May 26, 2020 3:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 318
Views: 67037

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

https://economia.estadao.com.br/noticia ... 0003314415
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Brazilian newspaper O Estado de São Paulo reports LATAM may ask administration in Chile, Brazil and US.

Link in portuguese: https://economia.estadao.com.br/noticia ... 0003314415

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by PB26
Wed May 06, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: old 70s/80s alliance question
Replies: 26
Views: 8290

Re: old 70s/80s alliance question

Panair do Brasil had pool and sharing revenues agreements with TAP, Air France, Alitalia and Lufthansa. Varig took all when absorbed PB and, in the Eighties, RG had along them pool services with SAS, JAL, Swissair and BCAL.

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by PB26
Mon May 04, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question on Iberia and Aerolineas Argentinas livery
Replies: 24
Views: 5307

Re: Question on Iberia and Aerolineas Argentinas livery

This seemed to be a popular trend in Latin America in the 1990s. VASP invested in Ecuatoriana and LAB and the carriers adopted similar liveries as well: 5310467,4216269,0967760 And TAN too, a small argentinian airline based in Neuquén. https://scontent-gru1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s960x960/2081917...

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by PB26
Sun May 03, 2020 12:33 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Can MCO ever become a legacy hub?
Replies: 46
Views: 5221

Re: Can MCO ever become a legacy hub?

Didn't DL briefly fly GRU-MCO? I know Trans Brasil did, as I took that flight once. 763. The staff even called it the Mickey Mouse flight, with all the families. Kids pressing the call button constantly and the poor flight attendants having to respond to each one. Delta flew GRU-MCO between decembe...

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by PB26
Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Questions about JAL's B747-200 Executive Express
Replies: 28
Views: 6689

Re: Questions about JAL's B747-200 Executive Express

Thanks guy for all the info and specially Tabito for the seat configuration and videos.

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by PB26
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Questions about JAL's B747-200 Executive Express
Replies: 28
Views: 6689

Questions about JAL's B747-200 Executive Express

In the early Eighties, JAL operated a modified version of B747-200, which could fly NRT-JFK non-stop. The company called 3 B747-200 as Executive Express, with just Business and First Class and, AFAIK, the 747 upper deck had beds for the First Class. How was the services? Are there cabin photos or so...

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by PB26
Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Surprising history of hijackings to Cuba: Facts, Figures, & Questions
Replies: 44
Views: 4855

Re: Surprising history of hijackings to Cuba: Facts, Figures, & Questions

Between November 1969 and March 1970, Varig's PP-VJX (B707) was hijacked three times, all of them with hijackers demanding to fly to Cuba. First was 11/04, after the plane took off from EZE to SCL, the plane went to SCL and after refueling, made SCL-HAV. After, the plane made HAV-NAS-CCS-GIG. In Car...

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by PB26
Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:14 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Past possible orders
Replies: 30
Views: 1996

Re: Past possible orders

Transbrasil A300B4, 727-200, 757-200 and 777-200;
Vasp DC-9, 727-100, Caravelle, A310-200;
Tam A310-300, A318 and Embraer 190.

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by PB26
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Azul buys Two Flex
Replies: 0
Views: 692

Azul buys Two Flex

Azul annouced yesterday (Jan 14) the purchase of small regional airline Two Flex per R$ 123 millions (U$$ 29,7 mi). Two Flex has a fleet of 14 C208B and has a large agreement with Gol to serve regional routes, as a way to G3 gain tax reductions from brazilian states. The agreement, pending governmen...

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by PB26
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why does Singapore Airlines fly to GRU via Europe?
Replies: 28
Views: 8574

Re: Why does Singapore Airlines fly to GRU via Europe?

AFAIK, SQ was in talks to fly SIN-JNB-GRU, but the south african Government denied It.

As told above, the Catalunha government offered incentives to SQ to fly between BCN and GRU. To do It, SQ signed an agreement with Spanair and TAM to do codeshare.

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by PB26
Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Azul resuming NYC next year
Replies: 43
Views: 5927

Rumor: Azul resuming NYC next year

Azul has plans to resume a new internacional city next year. Only in portuguese: https://www.mercadoeeventos.com.br/noticias/aviacao/azul-projeta-pelo-menos-seis-novas-bases-e-30-milhoes-de-passageiros-para-2020/ Rumors are VCP-NYC in May 2020, pending with airline they will have agreement: UA ir B6...

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by PB26
Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Azul and TAP to form Joint Venture
Replies: 2
Views: 1121

Re: Azul and TAP to form Joint Venture

Didn't see this mentioned here. Azul Airlines' board has approved the JV on routes between Brazil and Europe. Now they await the regulators' approval which they expect to have in 6 months. https://brazilianairlines.com/azul-airlines-board-approves-joint-venture-with-tap/ I’m sure someone will corre...

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by PB26
Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why JAL has fewer international destinations than ANA?
Replies: 43
Views: 9035

Re: Why JAL has fewer international destinations than ANA?

To understand the relation and size of ANA and JAL need back in the early Seventies, when the 45/47 System was adopted. The system granted JAL monopoly in the international market and fewer domestic trunk routes, like the FUK-HND-CTS and HND-ITM. All Nippon was awarded as domestic carrier and the To...

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by PB26
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: If Varig had stayed with us...
Replies: 11
Views: 4288

Re: If Varig had stayed with us...

Almost Brazilian avgeek think "If Varig kept fliying today..."

I presume the company would be smaller and fight with lcc carriers...

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by PB26
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History behind idiosyncratic IATA airline shortcodes
Replies: 171
Views: 28906

Re: History behind idiosyncratic IATA airline shortcodes

VARIG's RG came from Rio Grande do Sul, the company birthstate Yes, Viacao Aerea Riograndense gave us RG -from the RS state. Cruzeiro was SC because of its original name Servicos Aereos Cruzeiro do Sul. Cruzeiro's SC may came from above, Southern Cross (the english translation for Cruzeiro do Sul) ...

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by PB26
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History behind idiosyncratic IATA airline shortcodes
Replies: 171
Views: 28906

Re: History behind idiosyncratic IATA airline shortcodes

VARIG's RG came from Rio Grande do Sul, the company birthstate

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by PB26
Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flights from Northeast Brazil to West Africa
Replies: 20
Views: 3506

Re: Flights from Northeast Brazil to West Africa

Nowadays TACV flies SID-REC/SSA/FOR, the only links between Brazil and West Africa. The Government of Ceara (where is located FOR) is in talks with RAM to fly CMN-FOR. In 1950s and 1960s, many south american and european carriers flew XXX-GIG-REC-DKR/SID-LIS/MAD-XXX. BSAA flew via NAT. Panair and Va...

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by PB26
Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s
Replies: 34
Views: 5416

Re: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s

IIRC, the BN's 707-300s flew the PAC/MAC services. The 707-227 was used in early Sixties to South American route 'cause it performance in hot and high airports.

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by PB26
Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS
Replies: 250
Views: 64220

Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

[twoid][/twoid]

TheEuphorian wrote:
I can see the situation ending the same way with RG(Varig)'s privatization: taken over and intergrated into a LCC, which in RG's case is Gol, while in MH's case, it would get taken over by AirAsia group.

Varig wasn't state-owned.

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by PB26
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/21/2019: AA Reduces MYR;WC Adds DAL;MAX Cuts
Replies: 69
Views: 10158

Re: OAG Changes 7/21/2019: AA Reduces MYR;WC Adds DAL;MAX Cuts

The other JJ routes are gone? *LA BOS-GRU NOV 0>0.7[0] DEC 0>0.7[0] JAN 0>0.7[0] FEB 0>0.7[0] MAR 0>0.7[0] APR 0>0.7[0] *LA MIA-REC NOV 0>0.3[0] DEC 0>0.3[0] JAN 0>0.3[0] FEB 0>0.3[0] MAR 0>0.3[0] APR 0>0.3[0] All TAM`s JJ code will change to LA code. Brazil-US kept JJ code for governmental reasons...

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by PB26
Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 7/21/2019: AA Reduces MYR;WC Adds DAL;MAX Cuts
Replies: 69
Views: 10158

Re: OAG Changes 7/21/2019: AA Reduces MYR;WC Adds DAL;MAX Cuts

The other JJ routes are gone? *LA BOS-GRU NOV 0>0.7[0] DEC 0>0.7[0] JAN 0>0.7[0] FEB 0>0.7[0] MAR 0>0.7[0] APR 0>0.7[0] *LA MIA-REC NOV 0>0.3[0] DEC 0>0.3[0] JAN 0>0.3[0] FEB 0>0.3[0] MAR 0>0.3[0] APR 0>0.3[0] All TAM`s JJ code will change to LA code. Brazil-US kept JJ code for governmental reasons.

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by PB26
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?
Replies: 142
Views: 17350

Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

GIG-LIS-AMM-SDA by Iraq Airways. GIG-GRU-JNB-BKK-HKG by Varig. CCS-(MAD)-DAM-THR by Conviasa. EZE-CPT-JNB-KUL by Malaysia. The Fiesta Route by Qantas. Brazil still has the biggest Arab diaspora outside the middle east (from 9 to 12 million without counting their grandchildren), this route made sens...

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by PB26
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is regulatory approval required for livery changes?
Replies: 59
Views: 8489

Re: Is regulatory approval required for livery changes?

Just a trivia abou livery and government... In 1980 Cruzeiro do Sul received two A300B4 and its owner, the Varig, used them in the GIG-SSA-REC-BEL-MIA route. All the Varig and Cruzeiro schedules were syncronized to avoid overlap in the network. For a while, the MIA controllers got confused to see a ...

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by PB26
Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:47 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?
Replies: 142
Views: 17350

Re: Craziest Airline Routes from the Past?

GIG-LIS-AMM-SDA by Iraq Airways.
GIG-GRU-JNB-BKK-HKG by Varig.
CCS-(MAD)-DAM-THR by Conviasa.
EZE-CPT-JNB-KUL by Malaysia.
The Fiesta Route by Qantas.

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by PB26
Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cruzeiro lone MD-80?
Replies: 4
Views: 1453

Re: Cruzeiro lone MD-80?

PP-CJM was part Aeromexico's MD-80 order cancelled.

MDD offered six frames to Varig with a discount of 50%. And after Cruzeiro test, the Varig would purchase them. But the maxidevaluation of Cruzeiro currency (Cr$) made the group to cancel the purchase.

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by PB26
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Aviation Hobby
Topic: Seen that collection of Pan Am timetables?
Replies: 6
Views: 2286

Re: Seen that collection of Pan Am timetables?

Amazing! I always tried to find PA's annual reports.

Thank you!!

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by PB26
Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAM's inaugural A330 schedule 1998
Replies: 12
Views: 2754

Re: TAM's inaugural A330 schedule 1998

Hey guys, TAM got their first pair of A330s in 1998, and while I believe the first route to be GRU-MIA, I have been unable to find any information on the inaugural schedule. Does anyone have a source on, or happen to recall, the flight numbers, frequency, or timing of these flights? It must have be...

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by PB26
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy
Replies: 118
Views: 29728

Re: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy

Sorry the flood, but brazilian media reports the Avianca Brazil will axe SCL, JFK and MIA. Probably all the A330 will return to the lessors. The only international routes Will be the SSA/FOR-BOG once a week each for fiscal reasons. Link (only in portuguese): https://www.mercadoeeventos.com.br/notici...

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by PB26
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy
Replies: 118
Views: 29728

Re: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy

It seems Avianca Brazil will axe SCL and GRU-BOG.

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by PB26
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy
Replies: 118
Views: 29728

Re: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy

Avianca Brasil gained until February 1 to make a deal and pay with lessors. After the date and no deal reached, the lessors will take the planes.

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by PB26
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am flew Africa-Brazil Service?
Replies: 20
Views: 3316

Re: Pan Am flew Africa-Brazil Service?

Don't know about GRU but PA had flights from Rio until May 1979. Flight 451 departed on Fridays and Saturdays at 0915 arriving 2220 at Jans Smuts, operated with the 707 with First and Economy cabins. It's 4,851 miles. The return flight 450 departed on Sundays and Mondays at 1415 arriving 2110, ther...

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by PB26
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am flew Africa-Brazil Service?
Replies: 20
Views: 3316

Re: Pan Am flew Africa-Brazil Service?

PA didn't fly between GRU and JNB. In 1979, once a week, PA flew JFK-GIG-JNB by 707.

SAA also flew to JFK via GIG.

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by PB26
Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HNA mulls alliance membership by setting up taskforce for feasibility study
Replies: 26
Views: 3787

Re: HNA mulls alliance membership by setting up taskforce for feasibility study

Makes me wonder if they would be more interested in creating their own alliance given that they already own multiple Chinese airlines and have an ownership stake in TAP, Aigle Azul, Azul, AWA, and soon Virgin Australia. Add someone like JetBlue and that would be a significant presence in every cont...

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by PB26
Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy
Replies: 118
Views: 29728

Re: Avianca Brasil declares bankruptcy

xiaotung wrote:
I heard that Azul were considering the possibility of joining the AV-UA joint venture. Are they preparing for the worst?

No, Azul wants grow in the US Market and hás the advantage United's 8% in the Company.

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by PB26
Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Azul makes Bariloche BRC a year-round destination
Replies: 3
Views: 662

Re: Azul makes Bariloche BRC a year-round destination

Meanwhile It appears Azul will cancel POA-COR/ROS services.

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