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by inkjet7
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 448
Views: 70016

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

FlyingHonu001 wrote:
KL Fleet update: PH-AOE and PH-AOF to be repositioned to GAE for long term storage. 10x 737 to follow


That should be GRQ. PH-AOE and PH-BGC positioned AMS->GRQ Oct 28.

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by inkjet7
Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

RvA wrote:
inkjet7 wrote:
There might be a lot of politics involved in the making of this decision.


What‘s “a lot of politics“ mean?

It is related to the savings KLM has to make to get direct loans and guarantees for bank loans from the government.

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by inkjet7
Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

There might be a lot of politics involved in the making of this decision.

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by inkjet7
Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

It's the final 10 days for KLM 747 operations. Last flight will likely be KL894 arriving at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport at 17:40 on Sunday October 25. A very strange decision to phase out the best " temporally freighter" in the KLM fleet, just before the cargo peak season and during the se...

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by inkjet7
Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 277
Views: 66636

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Devin wrote:
That’s me :) About to upload it to twitter.


Nice shots!

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by inkjet7
Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 277
Views: 66636

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

During another test flight on October 8 she was captured by a Charleston spotter. The registration shown is PH-BKH.

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by inkjet7
Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 277
Views: 66636

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

PH-BKH took three test flights last week after sitting on the flightline for months. This could mean it will be taken up by KLM.

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by inkjet7
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Is that a photoshop joke or is the APU missing? ;)

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by inkjet7
Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 448
Views: 70016

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

I'm guessing this should apply to the older 777-200ERs, 737-800s, and A330s? Several of the A330's are owned by KLM. There's a rumour about leased 737-700's being returned when their contracts expire. Some of the E190's would stay longer than anticipated, rightsizing the fleet. No official statemen...

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by inkjet7
Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 46
Views: 7916

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wondering if anyone has info regarding start of production on KLM Cityhopper's first E195-E2? Sources tell me that the E2 simulator has arrived at KLM's training facility in Amsterdam quite some while ago.. On Dutch aviation website scamble.nl (in the community praethuys KLM thread) user Nemaco sta...

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by inkjet7
Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 241
Views: 60283

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

MBASS wrote:

Could KLM have postponed delivery of the 2 last 77W due to the lower passenger number, and planes they already have that are parked?


KLM has parked only five planes, all A330-200's (PH-AOA/B/C/M/N).

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by inkjet7
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM back in Cairo!
Replies: 14
Views: 4601

Re: KLM back in Cairo!

The Aircraft type seems to point to cargo though. KLM previously operated a 772 to Cairo and a 737 to Tel Aviv because of cargo. They also operated freighters to Cairo. Maybe they want to operate those elsewhere?

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by inkjet7
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330neo future bleak from COVID impact
Replies: 251
Views: 28386

Re: A330neo future bleak from COVID impact

Now they have a handfull of 787s but there are still 15? 332 to replace at one point and AF was launch customer to the 77W so some are getting older. Over time the 350s will replace more 77Ws and certain routes might get reduced in capacity. It could be more 787s but there is a pilot pool for 330 f...

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by inkjet7
Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: KL735 AMS to CUR returning?.
Replies: 5
Views: 2505

Re: KL735 AMS to CUR returning?.

Same plane has departed AMS again around 1300z.

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by inkjet7
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 277
Views: 66636

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

I think that also Boeing staff delivers aircraft, at least at Airbus AFAIK not all Airlines pick their airplanes up with their own crews. So if KLM crews were not allowed to get there Boeing pilots could deliver the aircraft? It's not just the delivery flight itself. Extensive acceptance testing wo...

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by inkjet7
Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1581
Views: 26135

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

And when they switched the 787-10 to 787-9, that made me more confused. Because the 787-9 does not suffer from the climate problem as much as the 787-10 does? Must be ideal for thinner routes. But the etihad uses 78710 just fine? Same climates no? But do they use it in the same way as their competi...

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by inkjet7
Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1581
Views: 26135

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

I believe it was the 77W's ability to really carry a lot of belly cargo even with a full pax load made the difference. And its significant more now than ever!! The joke goes that 77W is essentially a cargo aircraft that also carries pax! Same goes for the 787... especially the -10 if your route is ...

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by inkjet7
Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1581
Views: 26135

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

Boeing757100 wrote:
And when they switched the 787-10 to 787-9, that made me more confused.


Because the 787-9 does not suffer from the climate problem as much as the 787-10 does? Must be ideal for thinner routes.

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by inkjet7
Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 277
Views: 66636

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Also one of the KLM‘s was supposed to fly yesterday (Wednesday) but nothing happened. We have two sitting around so it could have been either BKH or BKI. Nothing else scheduled for the week is what I have heard. A little disappointing given the fact that we have so many aircraft here. Could it be t...

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by inkjet7
Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways 787-10
Replies: 84
Views: 34144

Re: British Airways 787-10

What’s causing these repeated delays? I’ve heard it’s Covid-19 related for last 3 months in terms of getting BA pilots to Charleston to pick her up. Current US flights either have 2 crews onboard for a straight back return or crews overnight in an airport hotel “on-site” as such. Travelling to Char...

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by inkjet7
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dominant language on Brussels Airlines - French or Flemish_
Replies: 36
Views: 5644

Re: Dominant language on Brussels Airlines - French or Flemish_

I second that. Even on KL short haul flights I have more than once experienced that the only Dutch announcement was that the rest of announcements will be made in English. On KLM flights from Amsterdam to Paris passengers are welcomed in Dutch, French and English. The security announcements are in ...

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by inkjet7
Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS
Replies: 325
Views: 63392

Re: IAI Launches 777-300ER converted freighters with GECAS

martlet76 wrote:
It is interesting to see the cargo door placed aft of the wing


The 747 'Combi' has a similar cargo door configuration. So for ramp space and logistics it seems to work.

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by inkjet7
Thu May 28, 2020 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 448
Views: 70016

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

https://www.yuca.tv/en/air-france-klm/assemblee-generale-2020 (click on the Strategy section, about 53:50 in the video). Shareholder meeting AF/KLM. Some 787's and A350 will be delivered at later dates. KLM could phase out some of their A330's earlier than planned, depending on how traffic develops ...

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by inkjet7
Thu May 21, 2020 6:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 277
Views: 66636

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Devin wrote:
inkjet7 wrote:
I think there's one KLM rolled out and a second one being assembled.


Yes sir, PH-BKH is on the flight line. B1 flight is Friday.

Thanks. Next one is PH-BKI. Juliet will be skipped.

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by inkjet7
Mon May 18, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways to take delivery of first 787-10 arriving at LHR around 8am on 21 May 2020
Replies: 90
Views: 19563

Re: British Airways to take delivery of first 787-10 arriving at LHR around 8am on 21 May 2020

Why would an airline that is struggling to survive be spending money on a brand new airplane? Makes no sense. Part of ANY government assistance should include NO NEW AIRPLANES at all until the TAXPAYERS are made whole and 100% of the government assistance is paid in full! Some planes were already f...

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by inkjet7
Mon May 18, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 277
Views: 66636

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

I think there's one KLM rolled out and a second one being assembled.

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by inkjet7
Mon May 18, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 277
Views: 66636

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

qf789 wrote:
Overview of the CHS flightline including 3 789's for China Southern, 1 789 for China Eastern, 3 789's for Air Europa and 1 787-10 for both Singapore Airlines and British Airways

I suspected to see a KLM there too but it might be around the corner.

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by inkjet7
Fri May 15, 2020 9:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 773
Views: 126029

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Doubtful, Air France and KLM rely on the 777-200ER as their main long haul plane, they don't have 50 767 or 30 A330 like their American cousin from Atlanta. AF is ditching their A380 and A340's. KLM's last 747's took early retirement too, so the 777's of any variant are now their main plane to far ...

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by inkjet7
Thu May 14, 2020 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 773
Views: 126029

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

I wonder if AF/KL will also retire their 777-200's..

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by inkjet7
Sat May 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X
Replies: 797
Views: 149940

Re: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X

While the 767X would have a similar advantage over the 787, A330NEO and A350 it would be fairly light per square metre of cabin area. Only the 787-10 would be lighter per square metre of cabin area, not bad for a simple NEO. How would other widebodies fare in the 'weight per square meter cabin area...

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by inkjet7
Fri May 08, 2020 12:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer
Replies: 1171
Views: 149145

Re: Updated: Boeing Terminates Agreement to Establish Joint Ventures with Embraer

Actually, Delta buying almost 100 of them does make it a success. But my comment had nothing to do with this. I was mentioning that the entire Delta A220 fleet is NOT currently grounded. And this says a lot about the economics of this aircraft and whether it's a "maintenance dog" as was c...

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by inkjet7
Tue May 05, 2020 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 241
Views: 60283

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Geoff1947 wrote:
Unfilled orders at the end of March now stand at 18, according to Boeing figures released yesterday ;

Aeroflot - 3
BOC - 3
KLM - 2
Novus ( for British ? ) - 4
Pakistan - 5
Unidentified - 1

Maybe some of these could be deferred due to Corona?

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by inkjet7
Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 448
Views: 70016

Re: Air France May Have To Permanently Cut Domestic Service by Half to Get Aid

I think the concern of governments should be to get the money back for the taxpayer and maybe make some money in the proces, while making AF/KL into a successful company that safeguards French and Dutch interests in the long term. Exactly. And all this complaining about the AF/KL holding as it is i...

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by inkjet7
Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 448
Views: 70016

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

About political interference in KL and AF as a condition of the bailout, this is called democracy. Politicians do this to appease people asking for such things (or much more). Look at LHR and its third runway that is never going to get built... Personally I'm not opposed to the cuts in flights howe...

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by inkjet7
Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 448
Views: 70016

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

Do we know on what these funds will be spent on? I remember reading that Austrian Airlines will receive €750 million from the government while €350 million will be used to refund tickets. Would be interesting to know what AF-KL plan on using these money for. Pay for fixed costs like planes and wage...

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by inkjet7
Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 448
Views: 70016

Re: Air France & KLM - Master Thread

Taxi645 wrote:
How secure is the 777-200 position at KLM going forward?


That depends on how this Corona-and-economic crisis goes. Currently a few of them are used for repatriations flights only. KLM has invested in most of them for new liveries and Wi-Fi upgrades so I guess the upgraded ones won't go too quickly.

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by inkjet7
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM - Master Thread
Replies: 448
Views: 70016

Re: Air France & KLM - Master Thread

Very curious how KLM will handle the 330s, particularly the -300. Given how few they have, and the desire to phase them out in a few years anyway, I wonder if they'll simply use 787s on those routes when they're able to reopen. Also a shame that the next few AF 350s will likely be delivered only to...

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by inkjet7
Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM considers A321 order
Replies: 271
Views: 51097

Re: KLM considers A321 order

Correct, they will get 35 195-E2, with 132 seats while they continue to phase out the 17 737-700 (142 seats). No further NB have been ordered. But, it has nothing to do with each other, because Pieter said so, once. Pre Corona, it did not make sense to replace planes with more than 132 seats with p...

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by inkjet7
Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM considers A321 order
Replies: 271
Views: 51097

Re: KLM considers A321 order

keesje wrote:
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They will introduce 35x E195-E2 to start with, while retiring the 737-700 fleet. Interestingly 21 of those E2's are leased.

The 21 (!) E195-E2's are/were planned to replace 17 E190's. A list of these 17 appeared on Dutch forum scamble.nl. Nothing to do with B737's.

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by inkjet7
Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Do KLM plan on doing a flyover Amsterdam for the final flights? As I mentioned in the Delta MD thread: I know in business there isn't any place of sentiment, but it would be nice if they could hold onto 1 plane to do at least some sort of small send off when things calm down. Would be nice to do a ...

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by inkjet7
Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Why does this 747 flight have two different flight numbers? KL735 / KL129 AMS - CUR KL735 is the flight number, KL129 is the call sign that's used communicating with ATC. Main purpose is to avoid similar sounding call signs in the same control area. For example, for many Years KL601 to LAX and KL60...

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by inkjet7
Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Phosphorus wrote:
With collapse in belly cargo capacity, is there a chance the Combis will get a reprieve, flying cargo alone?

I think it's cheaper to use a 787-10 or 77W for that purpose. They can haul quite a lot of freight without pax and bags on board.

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by inkjet7
Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 338776

Re: Discussion: Troubles for European Airline Groups, IAG, AFKLM, LH-Group

FluidFlow wrote:
Also France would only prop up AF but not KLM and vice versa.


The Netherlands government is talking to the French government about AF/KL to avoid any discrepancy in handling the situation.

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by inkjet7
Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

I took pictures of it's arrival here and departure. I think KL will keep sending their 747's to Curacao until they have flown all passengers back to their families. Probably till the end of this month and wondering which aircraft type they will send to Curacao after that. Most likely the 787. A388 ...

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by inkjet7
Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

There's also talk of some destinations operated for cargo only on passenger planes. So it might not be all over yet.

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by inkjet7
Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL A350s at MSP
Replies: 16
Views: 4789

Re: DL A350s at MSP

On March 3 DL132, DL134 and DL136 DTW to AMS were operated by an A350. Normally only DL134 is an A350. Could this (also) be related to the Corona virus problems?

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by inkjet7
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RUMOUR; Ex-Jet Airways 77W’s to find new home.
Replies: 73
Views: 15588

Re: RUMOUR; Ex-Jet Airways 77W’s to find new home.

It would make sense for KLM. 5 more would mean all 747s get replaced by 777-300ERs, while the remaining 10 787-10 orders get to replace most of the A330s. Since KLM started phasing out their 747's, they already received four more 77W's. They have two more new ones on order. KLM had just seven full ...

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by inkjet7
Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329431

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

Not even that as KLM has only got seven left ;)

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by inkjet7
Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France A380 retirement/parking thread
Replies: 483
Views: 61875

Re: Air France retires first A380; flown to Malta

Jetty wrote:
Not even only the entire AF fleet, KL’s fleet factors in as well: AF having it’s A380’s replaced by more A350’s allows KL’s fleet to grow as there’s an agreement with pilot unions about the widebody balance between the companies.


Only AF decided to get just ten extra A350 to replace ten A380.

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by inkjet7
Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM considers A321 order
Replies: 271
Views: 51097

Re: KLM considers A321 order

As much the A320neo would be a great aircraft for KLM, specially the A321XLR, getting cheap discounted 737-10MAXs would be much more profitable, they can increase capacity vs the 737-700s and the MAX would require less pilot training. Any routes the MAX 10 wouldnt have the range for vs the A321XLR ...

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