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by Waterbomber2
Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alitalia bankruptcy and selling process discussion thread
Replies: 1026
Views: 247449

Re: Alitalia bankruptcy and selling process discussion thread

Per Italian reporter tweet - Ed Bastian states DL looking at 10% stake in the new company. https://twitter.com/leonard_berberi/status/1174072644137836546 I think that this confirms what I have suggested previously in this thread, ie that there will be a new company. IMO DL & F&S are going t...

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by Waterbomber2
Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MC-21 Development Thread
Replies: 469
Views: 130361

Re: MC-21 Development Thread

Back in the days, the Russians said that support would be crucial for the international success of the SSJ. So they signed an agreement with Alenia/current Leonardo and established Superjet International in Venice. That time, they were going to do everything right... Until they started competing for...

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by Waterbomber2
Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oil price and fleet decisions, past and future
Replies: 8
Views: 1213

Oil price and fleet decisions, past and future

With the record daily oil price increase booked today, I think that it's time to look and reflect at how oil prices have and will affect past and future fleet decisions. If we look at past fleet purchase decisions, airlines have ordered hundreds of A380's in low density configurations at a time that...

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by Waterbomber2
Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM to replace one daily flight to BRU with Rail service
Replies: 96
Views: 11961

Re: KLM to replace one daily flight to BRU with Rail service

One more comment that I would lile to add is the poor hard product offered aboard the Thalys and TGV. The cabins look dated as if they had never been refurbished since built 20 years ago.
I don't know why but I've never seen newer rolling stock on the lines to CDG or AMS from either ZYR and ZAW.

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by Waterbomber2
Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM to replace one daily flight to BRU with Rail service
Replies: 96
Views: 11961

Re: KLM to replace one daily flight to BRU with Rail service

First of all, ZYR is not so well located in Brussels. It's in a shady neighborhood in the south and parking facilities are expensive. So it's convenient if you live in that neighborhood, but if you live in the suburbs, good luck getting there during the peak rush hour or on a day with a EU summit i...

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by Waterbomber2
Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM to replace one daily flight to BRU with Rail service
Replies: 96
Views: 11961

Re: KLM to replace one daily flight to BRU with Rail service

It's probably faster to take the train. By the time you pass through security, you've added quite a bit of time to the trip. If there is only one daily flight for such a short distance, it makes sense to just standardize on train connections and have multiple connections possible per day. There are...

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by Waterbomber2
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus launching A220LR or XLR according to Jon Ostrower
Replies: 80
Views: 16992

Re: Airbus launching A220LR or XLR according to Jon Ostrower

The question is now why use a NMA or B787/A330 when you can offer more frequencies and the same CASM with an A223? I think that this also opens up a lot of thinner US transcon point to point routes. To take the example of Ohio, second tier airports like CVG, CLE, CMH, CAK that were previously served...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update on CU972 crashed near HAV: Aircraft probably wrongly loaded
Replies: 470
Views: 80953

Re: Update on CU972 crashed near HAV: Aircraft probably wrongly loaded

I doubt that such a small difference in Vr can explain the crash. 4kts is nothing.
The trim setting difference is also nothing that couldn't have been compensated for by elevator input.

Plus load sheets have built-in margins.

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Delta increases stake in Korean Air parent
Replies: 80
Views: 12799

Re: Delta Buys a 4.3% Stake in Korean Air

We are really seeing the formation of a new SkyTeam from the inside-out with Delta as King and peripheral airlines like Aeroflot and Saudia locked out. I expect Delta to take a lot more control than the stake implies. I disagree this is just keeping up with JL/NH, I think they will leapfrog them. T...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Delta increases stake in Korean Air parent
Replies: 80
Views: 12799

Re: Updated: Delta increases stake in Korean Air parent

I think any reasonable person who is an av geek has to stand back in awe of DL's strategic decisions. They never miss a beat. There were many who have said DL 's partnership with KE will pale in comparison to the UA and AA alliances in Japan. The reality in NRT is not really Tokyo and Haneda is a t...

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by Waterbomber2
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific to cut capacity
Replies: 37
Views: 11352

Re: Cathay Pacific to cut capacity

Besides those cancelling visits to HKG, I bet many(especially business clients) are avoiding booking CX entirely as transiting HKG airport is a gamble. Yes and it surprises me that CX isn't even trying. I have a trip from Europe to Asia coming up and CX was not even the cheapest option except for a...

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by Waterbomber2
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA9154 diversion into OAK (Sept 8)
Replies: 20
Views: 4651

Re: BA9154 diversion into OAK just now

[twoid][/twoid] Was likely positioned due to the cancellations caused by BA pilot industrial action. Not enough room to leave it parked at SFO. Who flies it if the pilots are on strike? IIRC, If BA wanted to "ferry" an aircraft, especially for a few days of storage, the maintenance compan...

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by Waterbomber2
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready
Replies: 263
Views: 34373

Re: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready

I feel like they would be changing their strategy soon enough. The A380/B777-300ER era might be ending sooner than we are expecting. I won't be surprised if B787-9 and A350-900 became the face of Emirates in upcoming future. EKs model requires some number of A380s. They fly 6 per day to LHR and it ...

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by Waterbomber2
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready
Replies: 263
Views: 34373

Re: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready

I feel like they would be changing their strategy soon enough. The A380/B777-300ER era might be ending sooner than we are expecting. I won't be surprised if B787-9 and A350-900 became the face of Emirates in upcoming future. EKs model requires some number of A380s. They fly 6 per day to LHR and it ...

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by Waterbomber2
Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready
Replies: 263
Views: 34373

Re: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready

If I were Airbus and RR, I would be offering EK an A380 with Trent 7000's today in a combo with A339's. Airbus know how to do NEO's, they can have it ready within 2-3 years, probably even before the EIS of the B779, and RR can use the additional sales. None of what you suggest is new tech, why woul...

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by Waterbomber2
Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready
Replies: 263
Views: 34373

Re: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready

If I were Airbus and RR, I would be offering EK an A380 with Trent 7000's today in a combo with A339's. Airbus know how to do NEO's, they can have it ready within 2-3 years, probably even before the EIS of the B779, and RR can use the additional sales. Combined with the features of the A380 Plus, th...

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by Waterbomber2
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Miami mechanic arrested for sabotaging aircraft
Replies: 105
Views: 16616

Re: AA Miami mechanic arrested for sabotaging aircraft

Having read the article now, I see that he indeed confessed. Not the smartest thing to do to get some overtime, but from there to call him a terrorist is a stretch too far IMO. If you knew what management gets away with at MRO's across the globe, they should almost all be in jail. How many times hav...

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by Waterbomber2
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Miami mechanic arrested for sabotaging aircraft
Replies: 105
Views: 16616

Re: AA Miami mechanic arrested for sabotaging aircraft

I think that there could be more to this story. About every aircraft mechanic on Earth would know that obstructing the connectors to an air data computer woud cause warnings. How do we know that this guy wasn't framed? It's easy to rush to judgement, especially with an Arabic name like that. One of ...

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by Waterbomber2
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready
Replies: 263
Views: 34373

Re: Reuters: Tim Clark: won't take new planes unless engines are truly ready

I think that people here are reading too much into it. Manufacturing and design defects are part of doing business in this industry. Airbus and Boeing have warranty clauses and well established protocols for dealing with these issues, that's why they are Airbus and Boeing and not Airbus, Boeing, Com...

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by Waterbomber2
Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Japan allocates Haneda international slots to 9 nations
Replies: 133
Views: 27493

Re: Japan allocates additional Haneda international slots to ANA & JAL

The India 0.5 for each far from ideal. According to Japanese news site https://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/182833 , That 0.5 daytime slot for India is going to be coupled with 0.5 nighttime/early morning slot for both carriers. Also, ANA getting Italy, Turkey, and Scandinavia while JAL getting Fin...

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by Waterbomber2
Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alitalia bankruptcy and selling process discussion thread
Replies: 1026
Views: 247449

Re: Alitalia bankruptcy and selling process discussion thread

Given the strike, I think that Conte and Di Maio could let AZ die and start a new airline with the fresh capital.
Not because of the strike, but the strike may be planned to justify this kind of strategy.
It makes more sense to start 1 billion in the green than from 1 billion in the hole.

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by Waterbomber2
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Japan allocates Haneda international slots to 9 nations
Replies: 133
Views: 27493

Re: Updated: Japan allocates Haneda international slots to 9 nations

So how does this work? The slots have been allocated to Japanese airlines, are they allowed to lease out the slots to their partners? It's surprising that HND would waste a slot on HEL despite that most traffic on this route is not O&D. I wonder if it will be used for growth or JL to transfer it...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA
Replies: 93
Views: 15172

Re: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA

BA has increased ASKs and RASKs year-on-year for almost a decade. A319s are being replaced by A320neos and A321neos. Existing A320s and A321s are being reconfigured with more seats. The 777 fleet is being reconfigured to carry more passengers - the LGW 777 fleet has 1 seat fewer than the mid-J 747s...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA
Replies: 93
Views: 15172

Re: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA

BA's current strategy is to downsize B747's and A380's to B777X, while B777's will be replaced by a combo of A350's and B787's. If you combine that with slot restrictions you end up with a no-growth strategy. If you do that, you must be intending to skim the cream of the market. However, you can't ...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Probe launched after oxygen bottles on CX planes found half-empty before flight from YYZ to HKG
Replies: 27
Views: 10036

Re: Probe launched after oxygen bottles on CX planes found half-empty before flight from YYZ to HKG

Sorry but I worked in maintenance and partially discharged bottles are very common. Flight crews would check the flight crew bottles for serviceability as their pre-flight check and may not close the valves well, resulting in oxygen leaking out slowly. It could also be a system leak, it is typical f...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA
Replies: 93
Views: 15172

Re: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA

Aren’t people complaining about Cruz the way they are complaining about Doug Parker of AA? BA’s glamour has worn off somewhat for sure but its service is still pretty decent and competitive. Still pretty decent and competitive? Not really, their fares are through the roof, the planes are dirty, sea...

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by Waterbomber2
Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another wide-body firefighting supertanker?
Replies: 66
Views: 9275

Re: Another wide-body firefighting supertanker?

Yes well there is definitely a need for widebody tankers and pretty much anything could be converted. However, there is no interest to allocate large budgets for aerial firefighting. So until there is commitment to convert hundreds of older widebodies, it s a pointless discussion. In technical terms...

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by Waterbomber2
Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA
Replies: 93
Views: 15172

Re: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA

Good riddance. BA has been in steady decline in terms of customer experience, and had its future capped through smaller aircraft and lack of ambition. Let s hope for a different strategy, a different direction. Whilst emotionally I get your feelings the commercial reality is that planes fly further...

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by Waterbomber2
Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA
Replies: 93
Views: 15172

Re: Rumour: Alex Cruz & Klaus Goresch leaving BA

Good riddance. BA has been in steady decline in terms of customer experience, and had its future capped through smaller aircraft and lack of ambition.

Let s hope for a different strategy, a different direction.

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by Waterbomber2
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 78
Views: 12924

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

There are several additional issues with the railway connection to MXP. The railway station Milano Centrale is gorgeous but so massive that it takes forever to get to the tracks. Add luggage and it becomes a nightmare. Been there done that. Let's not omit the lowlife hanging around the station, pock...

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by Waterbomber2
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QS 737-800 Flies for Nearly 2 1/2 Hours with One Engine Out
Replies: 59
Views: 15737

Re: QS 737-800 Flies for Nearly 2 1/2 Hours with One Engine Out

I’m an airline Captain, with over 8000 hours of PIC time. Flew MD-80s before and currently on the A320. I can think of zero reasons why flying for 2 hours on one engine on a twin would be acceptable, unless it was an ETOPs flight. All airplanes are capable of landing over weight, so no issue there....

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by Waterbomber2
Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?
Replies: 230
Views: 25447

Re: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?

Hypothetically, how would an electric or a hybrid electric drive system change an airframe design? Assuming the batteries are the heavy part, do they get centered in the wing box, or distributed throughout? If it's an electric hybrid, since an electric motor can be so small, does the nacelle get bu...

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by Waterbomber2
Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 78
Views: 12924

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

There will be no "in a few years" IMO. There will be this winter, and maybe a few months after that. With funds for the continuita dried up, AZ to be reestablished, Air Italy will fold. If you want an airline with a hub in MXP, you'd have to look elsewhere for a new airline. All those who...

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by Waterbomber2
Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 78
Views: 12924

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

Yes, like Berlin wall, then suddenly it fell down. Il corriere reported that IG RASK is already bigger than AZ, 6.64 compared to 6.4. Considering 2018 was their first year, not even a complete one, not bad in my opinion. The costs are not yet under control because there are still thousands of Merid...

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by Waterbomber2
Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 78
Views: 12924

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

The charade that is Alitalia has been going on for decades. Yes, like Berlin wall, then suddenly it fell down. Il corriere reported that IG RASK is already bigger than AZ, 6.64 compared to 6.4. Considering 2018 was their first year, not even a complete one, not bad in my opinion. The costs are not ...

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by Waterbomber2
Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 78
Views: 12924

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

+1. And let's not forget MXP's longhaul catchment area includes Torino/Genova/Verona/Bergamo/and across the border Ticino. Have you ever even tried to go from any cities you mentionned to MXP? It's much easier, reliable, comfortable to take a flight from any of the cities you mentionned to OLB and ...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 78
Views: 12924

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

+1. And let's not forget MXP's longhaul catchment area includes Torino/Genova/Verona/Bergamo/and across the border Ticino. Have you ever even tried to go from any cities you mentionned to MXP? It's much easier, reliable, comfortable to take a flight from any of the cities you mentionned to OLB and ...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?
Replies: 230
Views: 25447

Re: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?

As many realise, with the A220, A320neo, A330neo, A350 lined up, Airbus could sit on their hands and do nothing for 10 years. Perhaps a stretch here, a neo there. But Airbus doesnt intend to sit on their hands, they are serious about acquiring an edge. https://airbusventures.vc/ So in my opinion by ...

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by Waterbomber2
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't the B753 sell better?
Replies: 136
Views: 24184

Re: Why didn't the B753 sell better?

The correct answer IMO is timing but actually the B753 was not too late, but too early to the market. At full load, the B753 exceeds 3.5 tons per hour fuel burn at cruise, more towards 4 tons per hour. In 2007 fuel prices, the A321 would beat the B753's CASM, but at today's fuel prices, the B753 wou...

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by Waterbomber2
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 78
Views: 12924

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

Poor investment. Bad branding it doesn't look even remotely Italian, just like its trying to align itself with Qatar and the big problem of MXP being split from the short haul. If QR really wanted this to proceed they'd need to set up a proper international hub at MXP, otherwise they should have st...

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by Waterbomber2
Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?
Replies: 230
Views: 25447

Re: Next clean sheet Airbus: A32x successor

One can make the easy conclusion that there is significant improvements possible with new tech. Really? :? I had a post ready to go into the other thread, but now its merged to this, I'll rehash. As I said above in this thread, there are a number of technologies that are either entering use or appr...

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by Waterbomber2
Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018
Replies: 78
Views: 12924

Re: Air Italy Reports Losses Of €164 Million in 2018

As I said and repeated numerous times, this airline can be happy to make it to 2020. -Two dozen B787's were "earmarked" to be moved from QR to Air Italy, now that plan is canceled and supposedly A330's will come instead. Haven't seen any yet. As predicted. -Insane routes like DEL were anno...

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by Waterbomber2
Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?
Replies: 230
Views: 25447

Re: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What nois Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?

It's not exactly a clean sheet, but I think that we are going to see something really weird based on the A380. It will look like an A380, but it won't at the same time and will pave the way for future models. It may not even sell in numbers or be built from new, it could just be existing airframes r...

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by Waterbomber2
Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR
Replies: 427
Views: 78806

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

I can even see the A350-2000 to be moved forward as sort of replacement for A380 with these increasment in mtow. It is something in the airbus strategy we still do not see. A350-900.: 733 orders A350-1000:180 orders A350-2000: ? I think that Airbus did not expect to see airlines order so many B779'...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 759
Views: 135268

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

I feel like if Airbus suddenly announced A350-2000. It would kill B777X entirely. With a A350-1000ULR to be announced, it's not unconceivable that Airbus is eyeing an A350-1100 stretch. B777X delays would be a very convenient reason for customers to opt out of their B777X commitments, although not ...

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by Waterbomber2
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 759
Views: 135268

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

With the B778 headed for the freezer, the B779 delayed, an A35JULR to be launched, the B737 MAX strangling Boeing's cash flow, I wonder if Airbus isn't moving to ambush the B777X. If you think about it, the B777X is at the base of the dismissal of the A380, so Airbus may be smelling blood. If Airbus...

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by Waterbomber2
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair cutting routes , selling planes ?
Replies: 17
Views: 4196

Re: Ryanair cutting routes , selling planes ?

We recently saw announcements of Ryanair for base closures and route cuts for flights in the coming winter season. For the current S19 season they seem, even without Max, to have sufficient aircraft. Could the cutbacks in the winter be a massive sale off on their 737-800s ? I could imagine values f...

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by Waterbomber2
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 759
Views: 135268

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

They say they aren't replacing the 380s with 777X. But their order pattern means that this is exactly what will happen as some A380s get parted out in the 2020s and the A380 fleet count starts dropping early next decade. I think the 777X buy was genuinely aimed at replacing the 777 fleet. But event...

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by Waterbomber2
Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM launches 3x daily LCY-ANR from Sept. 9.
Replies: 40
Views: 8709

Re: KLM launches 3x daily LCY-ANR from Sept. 9.

As mentionned above, the route and VLM's reverse hub was profitable and successful back in the days of VLM before AF-KLM bought it and destroyed everything. This first step is not bad, but a few ANR-AMS flights should be a given too. There are direct trains to AMS from ANR but flights are more conve...

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by Waterbomber2
Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian plane loses small pieces over inhabitated area at FCO
Replies: 41
Views: 12006

Re: Norwegian plane loses small pieces over inhabitated area at FCO

Fortunately no injuries, but it could have killed people on the ground. https://images2.corriereobjects.it/methode_image/2019/08/10/Mobile/Foto%20Mobile%20-%20Trattate/[email protected]e-Mobile-Nazionale_M.jpg?v=201908101912 https://www.corriere.it/

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