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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United to expand premium 767s to Switzerland
Replies: 36
Views: 4818

Re: United to expand premium 767s to Switzerland

WhenUA started cross fleeting after the merger, EWR-GVA/ZRH were the first routes from a legacy Continental hub to get 3-class PMUA 767s with first class. Switzerland has good premium demand.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321neo operators alerted over 'excessive pitch' anomaly
Replies: 85
Views: 21988

Re: A321neo operators alerted over 'excessive pitch' anomaly

It boils down to one similar concept as with Boeing/MCAS. Was sufficient testing done to have caught this characteristic and prevented this issue before these birds were flying or was this the result of rushing full speed to market where schedule and/or money requirements were a factor. I’m curious...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1037
Views: 142892

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Nowhere, because 797 / A322 are both powerpoint concepts at this stage & Boeing themselves don't know yet. I took a 763, decreased OEW 7% because of lower payload range requirements and -8 % of new materials and technologies. I think predicting lower empty weight based on brand new technology m...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1037
Views: 142892

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1037
Views: 142892

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

while avoiding twin aisle weight, drag and consequential cost inefficiencies. As engineers, we all go for efficiencies. But how efficient are bigger windows? Increase cabin air pressures? There are some design consideration that are adopted for other reasons. Not so say that twin aisles will be the...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1037
Views: 142892

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1037
Views: 142892

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

This would be the "confuse" department. Avoiding reality, creating " see.." doubts, steering on perception. 98% of A330 are 8 abreast , A350s 9 abreast. 98% of 787 are 9 abreast, a growing majority of 777 10 abreast. 98% of A330s being 8 abreast is an exaggeration. 9 abreast A33...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: 14 new airplanes and derivatives see EIS through 2027. ??
Replies: 30
Views: 2824

Re: Leeham: 14 new airplanes and derivatives see EIS through 2027. ??

Are we speculating on what new derivatives will enter service before 2027? The article states it will be 16 if Boeing launches the NMA. There are 14 new and derivative aircraft scheduled for entry into service (EIS) through 2027. This rises to 16 if Boeing launches the New Midmarket Aircraft (NMA). ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG 737 Max Order Is Prompted by More Than Just Price: CEO
Replies: 133
Views: 19385

Re: IAG 737 Max Order Is Prompted by More Than Just Price: CEO

Airbus is the one in a tough negotiating position, not IAG. Late deliveries have become such a big problem that IAG didn’t even issue an RFP to Airbus.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Impact of A320neo Family Delivery Delays
Replies: 0
Views: 567

Impact of A320neo Family Delivery Delays

We have seen a number of airlines impacted by A320neo family delivery delays. Airbus has faced A320neo-family supply chain issues that have contributed to delays in deliveries to airlines and lessors. IAG mentioned the A320neo delays recently. Many other airlines have been impacted as well. Salam Ai...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1037
Views: 142892

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Gate 3 is an engineering milestone. It is a review of what engineering work has been done where issues are identified. Whether or not it was presented to the board does not mean that the engineering work is not progressing. The article linked earlier said that the reviews were complete. That is a go...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Maui OGG closed due ongoing brush fires
Replies: 11
Views: 2388

Re: Maui OGG closed due ongoing brush fires

As usual, Delta fared better than others getting its flights out last night. All four delayed a few hours while United canceled four and delayed a fifth 12.5 hours. Looks like Delta didn’t have any diversions. Alaska and United had some air turnbacks (5 hour flights to no where) as well as other fl...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL
Replies: 189
Views: 13497

Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

The smoking rooms in Atlanta’s airport have a dubious past. They were financed by Phillip Morris in the 1990s to promote smoking while traveling after airlines banned smoking on planes. https://www.wabe.org/surgeon-general-calls-out-atlanta-airport-s-smoking-lounges/ Most airports are smoke free. Ge...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian files for Argentina - US service
Replies: 46
Views: 6156

Re: Norwegian files for Argentina - US service

Who has more to worry about Aerolinias or AA if they start flights to Florida with 787's ? AR always has the backstop of the Argentine treasury to subsidize its loses. Definitely not AA. AA's Latin America network is extremely profitable and they offer the best hard product on the MIA-EZE route. Yo...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Captains admonishing FO's for using speed brake on descent
Replies: 47
Views: 4788

Re: Captains admonishing FO's for using speed brake on descent

I was thinking the post was about a normal standard descent. Yes you should be able to calculate the descent point so as not to use the speed brakes. Does it happen every time? Of course not. There are a lot of variables but if you start out with a good plan it will show. I'm reminded of a couple o...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA’s New Tourist Centric Int’l Routes
Replies: 13
Views: 3864

Re: UA’s New Tourist Centric Int’l Routes

We are seeing the impact of a strong US economy. This is pushing up fares and demand for economy class. These leisure routes are based on economy class demand being profitable. 5-10 years ago, United needed strong business class demand to justify a route. UA has always had the largest premium cabins...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why didn’t Delta order the 737 MAX?
Replies: 54
Views: 6288

Re: Why didn’t Delta order the 737 MAX?

PW gave DL a deal to be an authorized MRO provider for the GTF, which also happens to power the A220. CFM, from what I understand, did not offer a similar deal for the LEAP which likely pushed the order to Airbus. DL has been very aggressive with expanding their portfolio of revenue opportunities. ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flyadeal cancels 737 max Commitment
Replies: 72
Views: 14832

Re: Flyadeal cancels 737 max order

In no way did Boeing not think the airplane was completely safe or it wouldn’t have been delivered. Is that why they were already scrambling to fix MCAS before the second accident? I understand that you have a vested interest in Boeing, and an obvious emotional link. But I'd be careful about deroga...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn’t DL, AA, and CO order the 747-400?
Replies: 49
Views: 9410

Re: Why didn’t DL, AA, and CO order the 747-400?

DL and AA both banked on the MD-11, while CO was focused on sewing it’s guts back together after Lorenzo. Continental ordered the A340 when AA and DL went for the MD-11. It was during bankruptcy when CO was focused on sewing its guts together that they cancelled the order and kept their 747-200s an...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 587
Views: 98420

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Boeing earns 3-4 times more per 787 air frame sold, compared to the X, and that will never change. Champions within Boeing sold the X concept to the Board as a future freight platform, claiming it would excel once the A380, 748i and non-X versions of the 777 were no longer offered. Are they as bull...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flyadeal cancels 737 max Commitment
Replies: 72
Views: 14832

Re: Flyadeal cancels 737 max order

From April when the airline said the decision would be based on availability Mr Korfiatis expressed confidence in the Chicago-based jetmaker’s ability to fix the jet and said the decision is still “up in the air.” “We have no doubt that whatever the issue is, it will be addressed,” he said. “It’s Bo...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could the 787 be scaled to create the 797?
Replies: 52
Views: 9207

Re: Could the 787 be scaled to create the 797?

The cost savings of development, flight testing and final assembly would be enormous . It would also create a common Boeing family, similar to that of car manufacturers. It would also recoup some of the billions spent on 787 development. I would estimate it would halve the time to EIS too. No the c...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 587
Views: 98420

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

The number of orders the 777-9 has is surprisingly high at the moment when you consider that the 744 replacement cycle is mostly done, while the replacement cycles for the 777W and the A380 have barely started. The plane will a huge success. In addition it is in the "why should I order now&quo...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Losing control? Narrow-body production in North America
Replies: 14
Views: 4028

Re: Losing control? Narrow-body production in North America

Airbus is doing better with narrowbodies https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/FIX-Airbus-Boeing2018-narrowbody-WEB-1020x678.jpg However, I don’t know why we are excluding the widebody market from the conversation. The whole concept of the NMA is to erase the divide between wide...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Losing control? Narrow-body production in North America
Replies: 14
Views: 4028

Re: Losing control? Narrow-body production in North America

I don’t think Bombardier exciting commercial aviation is connected to the 737MAX. Bombardier has been struggling for years.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2L/R on 757 and 321... Inefficient Use of Space?
Replies: 30
Views: 6149

Re: 2L/R on 757 and 321... Inefficient Use of Space?

I’m not so sure that’ll wind up being true. The NEO pushes toward being a long-haul airplane, and at least some carriers will want mid-cabin lavs and/or galleys. The doors make much more sense in that sort of cabin configuration. I imagine the NEO fleet will wind up looking a lot like the worldwide...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PY to replace A340 with B777
Replies: 45
Views: 11119

Re: PY to replace A340 with B777

I’m not sure why so many people are surprised about the choice of the 777-200ER. Singapore Airlines has retired about 40 777s after about 16 years of operation. There is plenty of life in the airplane. Many of the 777s have ended up in Russia. The airplanes are assets with useable life remaining, so...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 replacement, back on the table in summer 2019?
Replies: 287
Views: 57051

Re: Boeing 737 replacement, back on the table in summer 2019?

[ I sense a bit of the same approach with the NMA as in 2011. Then all focus was at 787 issues, now at MAX issues. Maybe nobody can say the NMA business case stinks, after all the effort put into it? Bad for your position? Just sing along? Market punches might be required to get Kevin & Mark no...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to Acquire CRJ Program from Bombardier
Replies: 309
Views: 30478

Re: Updated: Mitsubishi finalising deal for acquisition of CRJ programme according to FlightGlobal

700 million for that and they don't even get the production facilities? Meh, sounds like a bad deal. What kind of IP are we talking about? The type certificate of an aircraft about to cease production? How to design and produce an aircraft that complies with worldwide aviation standards would be th...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Taking Delivery Of First A321NEO
Replies: 39
Views: 9026

Re: JetBlue Taking Delivery Of First A321NEO

Glad to see it finally deliver. Originally 9 A321neos were supposed to be delivered in 2018 but production delays got that pushed back. Airbus is committed to deliver at least 6 of the 13 scheduled for delivery this year. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/jetblue-sees-delays-to-a321neos-pus...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:03 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Why Anet Is Declining
Replies: 66
Views: 5011

Re: Why Anet Is Declining

Other great loss for the site is the absence of very respected members who decided to go out after a lot of times being disrespected or mistreated by other members, civility of some members is at a low level and many times I have the feeling that moderators are too soft with this aggressive people....

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG sign LOI for 200 B737 Max
Replies: 344
Views: 43490

Re: IAG sign LOI for 200 B737 Max

I think it's a bit weird to order 200 aircraft from one manufacturer - without the other manufacturer even knowing about it. That leads to one of two conclusions: 1. Either the deal is so good it's impossible to beat. 2. It's a tactic to negotiate an even better deal on the other side of the aisle....

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War
Replies: 292
Views: 33862

Re: Bloomberg:Airbus Says It Must Slash A350 Costs to Win Wide-Body Price War

So is there any information on what Airbus actually plans to do to reduce A350 production costs? The sales gap between the A350 and 787 certainly implies that sales would benefit from lower production costs. Long lead times don’t appear to be an issue with A350 in the last 3 years: ⋅ starl...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45386

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

So far for a set seating capacity, making an aircraft a little longer resulted in a lighter aircraft than making it little wider. e.g. : A321, single aisle - First flight: 1996 - 1 class seating : 216 - Length : 44.51 m - OEW : 48.5 t 757-200, single aisle - First flight: 1982 - 1 class seating : 2...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing supplying Airbus parts to BA???
Replies: 9
Views: 1402

Re: Boeing supplying Airbus parts to BA???

Boeing has been selling Airbus parts for over a decade. They bought one of the largest parts distributors, Aviall, back in 2006 https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2006-05-01-Boeing-to-Acquire-Aviall-to-Enhance-Its-Growing-Services-Businesses A similar deal with Etihad was announced at the last Paris Air S...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45386

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

It feels like the overwhelming sentiment is that taking the time to get it right before launch is a bad thing. How quickly we forget the impact of the following failures: A350 MK1 A350-800 787-3 A380F Vetting the business case ahead of time to avoid renegotiating or cancelling orders is a good thing.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45386

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

Airbus says the A321XLR will enter service 2023. Boeing is targeting 2025 (despite what the skeptics say). This isn’t a winner take all market. They can coexist. Airbus is getting a head start, while Boeing continues developing prelaunch. Airbus has the PERFECT platform for such a market; with minim...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45386

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

Sure. But are you willing to bet a $20B on a cleansheet NMA design that I'm wrong? That's the question Boeing has to ask. And I wouldn't make that bet. From what we read from the rumblings at PAS, yes, Boeing is still on the road to a clean sheet NMA. The opportunity is for NMA to be to A321XLR wha...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 321neo routes
Replies: 63
Views: 12935

Re: Delta 321neo routes

My assumption: All 752's retired and scrapped by 2023. 738 and A320 fleets to remain unchanged for at least 10 years. If that’s the case, then DL will either axe all TATL 752 flights altogether, or switch them to the A321neo or B763ER in the next few years. The Delta 757-200s will remains in serive...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Upgauges DFW-Key West to A319
Replies: 45
Views: 6775

Re: AA Upgauges DFW-Key West to A319

I’m impressed the A319 can fly 1000 miles from the runway at Key West. Very curious how many seats will be blocked and if AA will restrict baggage. Replacing the Embraer 170s will help save some flight time since they have to fly up along the coast since they aren’t equipped with life rafts and life...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 383085

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

When an aircraft model is grounded, it loses it's hull & flying insurance - ground cover only. Presumably, Boeing are delivering frames to storage facilities under experimental / test cover, with test crew (probably a record number of test crew at work). Interesting to know if FAA consent to pe...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is regulatory approval required for livery changes?
Replies: 59
Views: 7591

Re: Is regulatory approval required for livery changes?

There are many regulations pertaining to liveries. The painting process is regulated since it must follow the Airplane Maintenance Manual procedures. The paint must be approved. Some areas have stricter paint and color requirements such as the wing. Then there are many regulations regarding placards...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 383085

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

There a lot of undelivered MAXs parked at Boeing Field and Everett. Obviously they were not trucked there from Renton. What are the precise circumstances under which the FAA allows MAXs to be flown (aside from test/certification flights)? Can Boeing move undelivered frames out of Washington state f...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRJ GPS Issues
Replies: 52
Views: 11793

Re: CRJ GPS Issues

The issue appears to go well beyond CRJs Various online reports suggested impacted planes were mostly CRJ jets made by Canada’s Bombardier, but also some Boeing 737s, 717s and possibly a 767 as well. "We are working to determine the cause of the problem," the FAA said in a statement, "...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop
Replies: 48
Views: 6616

Re: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop

7 777s daily from DFW? There’s 3x HNL: 2x on 772 and 1x on a 788 if I’m not mistaken, where are the other frequencies going to? 2x OGG/KOA? 3x HNL 3x OGG 1x KOA That is a lot of capacity. They are charging $1300+ fares in economy. The likely are pulling down Transatlantic and transpacific flying th...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop
Replies: 48
Views: 6616

Re: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop

7 777s daily from DFW? There’s 3x HNL: 2x on 772 and 1x on a 788 if I’m not mistaken, where are the other frequencies going to? 2x OGG/KOA? 3x HNL 3x OGG 1x KOA That is a lot of capacity. They are charging $1300+ fares in economy. The likely are pulling down Transatlantic and transpacific flying th...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRJ GPS Issues
Replies: 52
Views: 11793

Re: CRJ200/700 GPS Transponder Issue?

kabq737 wrote:
Looks like Mesa is really struggling to cope.

Has anyone heard anything from Rockwell Collins on the matter yet?


Do you have any information on what the impact is on Mesa?

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 50 Seat Aircraft Market - Does it Exist?
Replies: 7
Views: 1594

Re: 50 Seat Aircraft Market - Does it Exist?

I belief that the market exists. The problem still is the over saturation caused by the RJ boom 20 years ago. Bombardier and Embraer overproduced because of the 50 seat scope limits and cheap pilots that there still is no business case to build another 50 seat jet. Eventually the market will come ba...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Are 767s still built with CRT cockpits?
Replies: 23
Views: 4533

Re: Are 767s still built with CRT cockpits?

UPS and FedEx both have modern LCD display flight decks. I believe the older UPS 767s and 757s were also upgraded with the modern LCD flight deck so they will match the newly delivered 767s. FedEx also upgraded the 757s when they converted them to freighters, but not using the 3 large displays.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: AA agrees to order 50 Airbus A321XLR's
Replies: 325
Views: 52850

Re: RUMOR: American to order A321LR

Bloomberg reports how Airbus and AA again is considering a deal for the A321XLR, which echoes 2011 when (and why) Boeing decided to launch the MAX. The rest is history. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-08/airbus-woos-american-airlines-with-new-jet-in-deja-vu-for-boeing I wonder if Ai...

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