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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:22 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Did QF buy the B744ER specifically for the MEL-LAX route?
Replies: 15
Views: 4456

Re: Did QF buy the B744ER specifically for the MEL-LAX route?

The payload increase for the 747-400ER allowed LAX-MEL with a full load of seats. A 747-400 would need seats blocked westbound. The 747-400ER payload increase was also useful for LAX-SYD since it allowed more cargo to be carried. It also was useful for days when the flight needed to enough fuel for ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Shenzhen Airlines A333 suffers cabin pressurization problem, returns to SZX
Replies: 21
Views: 4770

Re: Shenzhen Airlines A333 suffers cabin pressurization problem, returns to SZX

⋅ Done oxygen masks ⋅ Seatbelt sign ⋅ Engine start switch On ⋅ Transponder to 7700 ⋅ Mayday to ATC ⋅ Deploy oxygen masks ⋅ address ECAM actions ⋅ Initiate descent ⋅ Turn off airway ⋅ Set And monitor ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Shenzhen Airlines A333 suffers cabin pressurization problem, returns to SZX
Replies: 21
Views: 4770

Re: Shenzhen Airlines A333 suffers cabin pressurization problem, returns to SZX

I have always wondered if the rapid controlled descent after a loss of cabin should be mentioned in the preflight safety briefing, just so people are aware. Every single time after these incidents, the media is filled with sensationalist coverage with interviews of pax describing “death dives” and ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Shenzhen Airlines A333 suffers cabin pressurization problem, returns to SZX
Replies: 21
Views: 4770

Re: Shenzhen Airlines A333 'dives thousands of metres'

Seems like an emergency descent in order to depressive, nothing too out of the ordinary. Very typical A.net response :) While the steps to correct an emergency situation might be standard, the experience is most definitely out of the ordinary for both crew and passengers. Diving from 9,297m to 3,73...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QANTAS to mothball most of the 787 fleet
Replies: 86
Views: 29298

Re: QANTAS to mothball most of the 787 fleet

I find it strange to use the word mothball to describe the long term storage of airplanes.

With that said, many widebodies are in long term storage in low humidity locations.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is there an airline worldwide that’s not losing money ?
Replies: 56
Views: 13086

Re: Is there an airline worldwide that’s not losing money ?

Except Fedex, Atlas, UPS, Amazon etc. Exactly! That’s a ridiculous statement. There are many US carriers with cargo only ops. Geez... Bottom line, the carriers reporting profits are largely attributed to cargo ops. Cargo is king for now. he was speaking to pax carriers clearly. read it again if you...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:36 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?
Replies: 58
Views: 11964

Re: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?

What I mean is, is there any mechanical factor that makes the MD-11 more attractive? Yes there are some mechanical factors that favor the MD11 First off is the wing span. The MD11 fits in a Code D gate like the 767 and 757. That is important for Memphis and Louisville which are geographically const...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vistara to launch London, Frankfurt and Paris
Replies: 33
Views: 9201

Re: Vistara to launch London, Frankfurt and Paris

where did they get the LHR slot from? I'm sure there's plenty available right now. not permanently though. If they plan to fly this on an ongoing basis, someone will have had to give them a slot Slot values have dropped. There will be at least one airline in bankruptcy liquidating slots for less th...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?
Replies: 17
Views: 4416

Re: First non stop Los Angeles (LAX) to Brazil ?

It appear that the LAX-Brazil flights were truly based on demand between Japan and Brazil. LAX was a convenient stopover. I wonder if this was tied to the significant immigration from Japan to Brazil. Even though immigration mostly stopped in the 1960s, travel demand between the countries continued ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northwest Airlines 1990/2000's NRT/GMP hub profitability and DL restructuring
Replies: 16
Views: 3249

Re: Northwest Airlines 1990/2000's NRT/GMP hub profitability and DL restructuring

25 years ago there weren’t Chinese Airlines dumping cheap fares into the transpacific market. The first nonstop flight between China and the United States didn’t happen until 1996. 25 years ago UA and NW dominated transpacific flying. ANA, JAL, Korean, Asiana, Eva, China, Cathay Pacific and Singapor...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?
Replies: 69
Views: 13995

Re: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?

If the penalty of operating an XLR over a regular A321 neo is not too big they should have at some point a few XLRs. Even if there are not many new destinations they could serve with the extra range at least it gives some flexibility to adapt to market demand and be more opportunistic. When Iberia ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific/Dragon Retires The World's First A330
Replies: 42
Views: 9762

Re: Cathay Pacific/Dragon Retires The World's Oldest A330

Still an incredibly modern plane in terms of automation and design when you think about it, minus the outdated inefficient engines. I’m going to guess that the avionics aren’t so incredibly modern. Those early 1990s avionics needs upgrades to meet the latest mandates such as ADS-B Out, CPDLC, etc. ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific/Dragon Retires The World's First A330
Replies: 42
Views: 9762

Re: Cathay Pacific/Dragon Retires The World's First A330

It is probably worth noting the impact of a freighter conversion market on retirements. The lower gross weight A330-300s have not proven to be popular for freighter conversion. 767-300ERs have been very popular freighters which is resulting in 767-300ERs typically being retired in the 110-130K Hours...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?
Replies: 69
Views: 13995

Re: Why didn't Hawaiian wait for the A321LR/XLR?

I believe the intention with the A321neo order was to compete with Alaska and the service to smaller markets between California, Oregon and Washington. The A321LR has a few drawbacks over the baseline A321neo: ⋅ Costs more to buy or lease ⋅ Weighs more meaning that it uses more f...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG
Replies: 93
Views: 29341

Re: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG

How does the insurance work for airliners? If one is written off like this will the insurer replace the plane, or do airlines just use a liability only cover? The airline (or lessor) will get payment for the value of the aircraft minus deductible. It’s the airline’s (and/or lessor) choice whether t...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are Air Canada’s A220S flying below 30,000 ft?
Replies: 38
Views: 10292

Re: Why are Air Canada’s A220S flying below 30,000 ft?

There is an Emergency Airworthiness Directive Issued by Transport Canada due to several inflight shutdowns. Several occurrences of engine in-flight shutdowns (IFSDs) were reported on Airbus Canada Limited Partnership BD-500 family aeroplanes. Investigations are ongoing to determine the root cause. P...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39122

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

Things can change fast.. Yeah, there could be a second wave of coronavirus, etc... Things change fast like 90% of the worldwide disappearing in a matter of weeks, but debt doesn’t go away as fast. It will take time for airlines to be able to afford deliveries again, longer for them to place new ord...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39122

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

Compare it to the 787-10, launched in 2013, while 787 production problems hadn't recovered, 787s weren't making any profit and the -9 hadn't even entered service. 787 Backlog was above 1000 and the -10 overlapped with the ailing 777 line . Still Boeing (and me) thought it was a good investment, bec...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39122

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

Compare it to the 787-10, launched in 2013, while 787 production problems hadn't recovered, 787s weren't making any profit and the -9 hadn't even entered service. 787 Backlog was above 1000 and the -10 overlapped with the ailing 777 line . Still Boeing (and me) thought it was a good investment, bec...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lead time to fill a plane reservations-wise
Replies: 25
Views: 3549

Re: Lead time to fill a plane reservations-wise

The number that used to hold true that for domestic travel in the US, 80% of tickets are booked less than 5 weeks before departure. That's wild, though I can totally see it. Perhaps the interesting thing in this thought experiment is where my own habits fall vs. what the industry norms are for part...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39122

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

I think we have heard over the years many instances the strategies of - "let's fix our current business first, before we do something new" - "with the current backlog / market position, there is no need to invest even if airlines ask for it" I think often those reasonable strate...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39122

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

It has a (maybe) 600 unit backlog, but as many unheard posters have already said, IT LOSES MONEY... ...There is virtually no chance Airbus will be able to squeeze costs making production more scalable, or out of the subs with fanciful Powerpoint slides and now, especially now cash flow is important...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39122

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

If a -500 can maximize profit/slot for Airbus why not?. I agree that if a -500 maximizes profit/slot, then it makes sense for Airbus to build it. Will it? Right now the A220 is losing money and Airbus cut rate on the A320 due to lack of demand for slots. An A220-500 development program would distra...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VietJet's A321 skids off runway in SGN
Replies: 19
Views: 6114

Re: VietJet's A321 skids off runway in SGN

What's Airbus' SOP for a runway overrun/incident like this? Looks like the evacuation slides have not been deployed, but the flaps and spoilers are still extended? I know for the B737, the flaps are fully extended to assist pax egress from the overwing emergency exits (should an emergency evacuatio...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39122

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

Airbus has a 8-9 year A320/321 backlog. Even longer now. Creating some air by converting to A220s seems the least of concerns, now the 737 is on its knees. Few A319NEO sales lost to the A220-300. If European employment was the holy grail, there would be no assembly lines in Tianjin & Mobile. I ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Sales Considering Moving Up 777-8F Program? (Leeham News)
Replies: 48
Views: 8071

Re: Boeing Sales Considering Moving Up 777-8F Program? (Leeham News)

More to do with internal Boeing dialogue and positioning, than material customer interest / demand. I don’t understand. The business to consumer freighter operators are the only airlines making money right now. Freighters are being pulled out of the desert. It makes perfect sense to be focusing on ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Sales Considering Moving Up 777-8F Program? (Leeham News)
Replies: 48
Views: 8071

Re: Boeing Sales Considering Moving Up 777-8F Program? (Leeham News)

The majority doesn't need the 777-8 at all. Even the 777-9 is a niche product now. The freighter will have a tough time as well because there will be hundreds of 77Ws available for conversion that will be flooding the market. Boeing's main concern right now should be how to spend the less money pos...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When did UA retire their 737-222?
Replies: 14
Views: 3378

Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

The -222 were gone by 99. The ex Frontier -291A/2A1A left November 1, 2001 in masse along with the 727 fleet due to 9/11. I show N9015U last flight was 3/25/98. For many of the airplanes, there was a long period between the retirement date, and the date the airplane was disposed, making some of the...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020
Replies: 318
Views: 25235

Re: Why have DL's A320-200s not been retired????????

I think it comes down to engines. The MD88 and MD90 engine maintenance costs are very high since there are limited spare parts and competition among overhaul shops. A320 engines are much more common with lower maintenance costs. A 25-28 year old A320 airframe on the other hand is Quite expensive to ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X
Replies: 615
Views: 110712

Re: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X

Unless it can cross an ocean at/near max payload (which it's doubtful it'll be able to) then that's unlikely. Best it can hope for at that point is intra-Asian freight; but the A330F hasn't been a stellar seller at all there either. 767F has a wingspan that can fit in far more common parking spaces...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LEAP engines on 737 and A320 fall way short of on-wing targets
Replies: 42
Views: 11256

Re: LEAP engines on 737 and A320 fall way short of on-wing targets

New generation engines will never feature the same wing time as the old generation because the core runs hotter, resulting in more wear and tear. Everyone working in the industry knows this. So are you telling us CMF planned it this way, engines with only 6.000 hours of wing time and costly engine ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LEAP engines on 737 and A320 fall way short of on-wing targets
Replies: 42
Views: 11256

Re: LEAP engines on 737 and A320 fall way short of on-wing targets

The article says the Leap Engine is facing removals in about 6,000 hours. That’s 1.5-2 years of service. Not many 737MAX airplanes accumulated 6,000 hours. The 6,000 hour removals must mostly be on A320NEOs. I wonder if there is a difference between the A320neo, C919 and MAX engine life on wing proj...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LEAP engines on 737 and A320 fall way short of on-wing targets
Replies: 42
Views: 11256

Re: LEAP engines on 737 and A320 fall way short of on-wing targets

9Patch wrote:
StTim wrote:
But not good news for A320N with LEAP engines. Some of those are flying.

Does anyone know what percentage of A320neos have been ordered with LEAP engines?


59% of NEOs

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun May 31, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will the A330neo ever become as successful as its predecessors?
Replies: 199
Views: 24736

Re: Will the A330neo ever become as successful as its predecessors?

To evaluate the future of the A330NEO you have to compare it to the 787. In what way is it preferable? Is it cheaper to build? From what I have read, no. Does it have better operating economics? No. Does it require less maintenance? No. Does it have better range/payload? No. I do not know of any ar...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed May 20, 2020 12:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ecuador TAME to be liquidated
Replies: 27
Views: 5804

Re: Ecuador TAME to be liquidated

That said, TAME wasn't the usual basket case airline launching service to JFK etc. Bad example, since they did fly to JFK until quite recently. Fair enough. I meant it more in the sense of ULH flights to JFK. UIO-JFK is narrowbody distance easily. The only narrowbody that can fly that route is the ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon May 11, 2020 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will the A330neo ever become as successful as its predecessors?
Replies: 199
Views: 24736

Re: Will the A330neo ever become as successful as its predecessors?

No. The reason is not "not good enough", but "it came too late". Too late that the 787 was being to slay on the market. I am not so sure about that - the A330ceo sold very well even after the B787 was launched and continued to sell even after the first ones were delivered. One c...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Tue May 05, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 passenger to 'auxilary freighter'
Replies: 63
Views: 12019

Re: First A380 passenger to cargo conversion

It is hard to understand the article. It sounds like they will take out seats and tie cargo down in a passenger cabin. I couldn’t find anything suggesting they would cut out a cargo door and install a cargo handling system

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon May 04, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: LAX world’s busiest IF no gate/slot restrictions?
Replies: 7
Views: 1034

Re: LAX world’s busiest IF no gate/slot restrictions?

Gate limitations have protected LAX from becoming dominated by regional jets. I think that is a good thing. Many US airports seem to have 50% or more of the flights operated by regional jets. LAX has mostly escaped that situation.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could EK be considering narrowbodies/integrating FZ into their operation?
Replies: 15
Views: 2860

Re: Could EK be considering narrowbodies/integrating FZ into their operation?

I think the Fly Dubai business class hard product on the 737MAX would work for the Emirates brand https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/dimension=519x10000:format=jpg/path/scb3c95bbd722dc02/image/i95608cea98142ee1/version/1526559451/flydubai-new-business-class.jpg https://image.jimcdn.com/ap...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus CEO: "“We’re bleeding cash; may threaten existence of company"
Replies: 190
Views: 31226

Re: Airbus CEO: "“We’re bleeding cash at an unprecedented speed, which may threaten the very existence of our company,”

It’s unfortunate that the Airbus military business was doing so poorly and losing money that they were laying people off even before the crisis https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51560701 With loss making military business and the A220 production line which is also losing money, there is no where for...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Potential for an 787-10ER ?
Replies: 66
Views: 8949

Re: Potential for an 787-10ER ?

They ordered some bog standard 787-10s, albeit with GE rather than RR engines. The confusion came when some om this forum interpreted the CEOs statement that it would replace the 777-200ER and could do similar flights, as if the 787-10 was an ULR capable aircraft that would be doing the New York fl...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Potential for an 787-10ER ?
Replies: 66
Views: 8949

Re: Potential for an 787-10ER ?

Didn't Air New Zealand already order a modified version of B787-10 to replace their B777-200ER? They ordered some bog standard 787-10s, albeit with GE rather than RR engines. The confusion came when some om this forum interpreted the CEOs statement that it would replace the 777-200ER and could do s...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 26888

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

Agree. Despite the fact that Boeing built the 78X to directly replace the 772ER, most carriers use the 78X as something between the 333-772 and the 773-77W, especially in thick short-to-medium-haul routes. The 787-10 is not a direct 777-200ER replacement. It simply lacks the range to reliably do wh...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Interesting 787 flaperon movements on takeoff
Replies: 8
Views: 1687

Re: Interesting 787 flaperon movements on takeoff

It's a FBW aircraft, so ultimately it is a computer that is moving it about based on some sort of parameters. IMO, it looks like the computers are a bit flumaxed by the low speeds, and tries to make irrational corrections up until the aircraft starts gaining speed. There could also be some element ...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Mauritius enters administration
Replies: 22
Views: 8355

Re: Air Mauritius enters administration

The 2019 financial numbers look really bad. Very unfortunate to go through the fleet modernization with A330neos and A350 right before a downturn.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing reshapes leadership, signals production cut
Replies: 25
Views: 6447

Re: Boeing reshapes leadership, signals production cut

Consolidating executive council leadership increases the influence of the engineering leaders. I would think the retirement of people with business and finance backgrounds from the powerful executive council would be commended on this website.

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair reiterates interest in potential Airbus order
Replies: 79
Views: 18775

Re: Icelandair reiterates interest in potential Airbus order

The basic A321s are no slouches. A late model A321ceo can cover their entire European network and can even reach some of their North American destinations like Boston, New York, Toronto and Halifax. Those wouldn't even break the record for an A321ceo, JFK to SFO is longer than all those routes. A b...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair reiterates interest in potential Airbus order
Replies: 79
Views: 18775

Re: Icelandair reiterates interest in potential Airbus order

The basic A321s are no slouches. A late model A321ceo can cover their entire European network and can even reach some of their North American destinations like Boston, New York, Toronto and Halifax. Those wouldn't even break the record for an A321ceo, JFK to SFO is longer than all those routes. A b...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair reiterates interest in potential Airbus order
Replies: 79
Views: 18775

Re: Icelandair reiterates interest in potential Airbus order

A lot of RR-powered 757's will become available on the other side of this crisis. They are expected to be looking for home, even if relatively inexpensively. Is it possible that once Icelandair emerges, and travel restarts, they could actually lease in some 757's, replacing some of the older frames...

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by Weatherwatcher1
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair reiterates interest in potential Airbus order
Replies: 79
Views: 18775

Re: Icelandair reiterates interest in potential Airbus order

The basic A321s are no slouches. A late model A321ceo can cover their entire European network and can even reach some of their North American destinations like Boston, New York, Toronto and Halifax. Those wouldn't even break the record for an A321ceo, JFK to SFO is longer than all those routes. A b...

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