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by 9Patch
Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing and Airbus in discussions with Spirit Aerosystems About Buying Spirit or Parts of it
Replies: 137
Views: 18246

Re: Boeing and Airbus in discussions with Spirit Aerosystems About Buying Spirit or Parts of it

DartHerald wrote:
Haven't Airbus just ordered a new fleet of ships with wind power-supplementation to transport fuselages from Europe to Charleston?

I think they will replace the current ships, I don't think the Belugas are used to transport fuselages, just wings.


I think you meant Mobile AL, not Charleston SC.

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by 9Patch
Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing and Airbus in discussions with Spirit Aerosystems About Buying Spirit or Parts of it
Replies: 137
Views: 18246

Re: Spirit Aerosystems surges on report that Boeing could buy it back

Also I’m not sure of the dimension of the fuselage alone, but the assembled plane is 40ft tall or so. If you assume that 10 ft of that is from the landing gear, that still leaves 30ft of fuselage, which is the sort of thing that prevents you from going under almost all bridges, and maybe requires m...

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by 9Patch
Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development / Testing / Production / Deliveries - 2024
Replies: 107
Views: 25839

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development / Testing / Production / Deliveries - 2024

Not really a big deal as far as delays go. It's to be expected nowadays. Airbus A321XLR entry into service delayed until Q3 2024 Airbus has confirmed that the ‘entry into service’ date of its long-awaited A321XLR model has been delayed once again, until the third quarter (Q3) of 2024. The type had a...

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by 9Patch
Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is the 787-10 failure or underestimated
Replies: 257
Views: 38895

Re: Is the 787-10 failure or underestimated

pjc747 wrote:
Low sales of a niche variant don't make a 'failure'. They only built 45 of the 747SP, only 61 of the 777-200LR, only 55 of the 757-300, only 38 of the 767-400ER. But nobody would call those failures.

You must be new to anet.

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by 9Patch
Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

Big-time 737 operators like WN told Boeing that they wanted an airplane that their pilots could fly with nothing more than a minimal differences course. Boeing promised that would be the case and if it weren't, then they'd pay a penalty of $1M per airframe. Because the MAX would fly differently at ...

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by 9Patch
Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

When existing products, have acquired a *reputation*, especially one that is in its 4th gen iteration, the best bet might be to do a clean-sheet design. Start on a new clean slate! There is nothing *asinine* about expecting an aircraft manufacturer to deliver a Quality product. Whichever way you lo...

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by 9Patch
Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

This is incorrect. Yes, the new engines are bigger and had to be fitted forward of the original position, which changes the aircraft feel when flying BUT it has been demonstrated that MCAS isn't needed for the aircraft to fly normally. What MCAS did is to make the 737MAX fly in a similar fashion to...

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by 9Patch
Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

This theory of blaming the McDonnell Douglas acquisition for Boeing's quality control problems is silly. The rudder issues of the 1990s all happened before Boeing acquired McDonnell Douglas and allegedly lost its "engineering culture." The 737 rudder problems were a design issue, not a qu...

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by 9Patch
Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

MCAS was really required because the large CFM Leap engines could actually stall the aircraft. So they needed something to accomodate those large engines on the old airframe, thus entered MCAS. It would push the nose down when it thought it's a stall. Then we all know the rest. FALSE. Boeing’s fix ...

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by 9Patch
Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

They are not scapegoating MCD, they are blaming the MCD executives who took over Boeing and changed the corporate culture. This theory of blaming the McDonnell Douglas acquisition for Boeing's quality control problems is silly. The rudder issues of the 1990s all happened before Boeing acquired McDo...

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by 9Patch
Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

So tired of the MCD trope. As if no one at Boeing bears any responsibility for what has happened. Scapegoating MCD for Boeing's faults is a diversion and a distraction. The merger/buyout is ancient history, it happened 27 years ago. They are not scapegoating MCD, they are blaming the MCD executives...

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by 9Patch
Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

Leeham has a new blog post discussing Aviation Week’s supplier conference. The consensus was clear: “leadership” at Boeing headquarters and in Seattle with Commercial Airplanes has to go: Leadership changes required at Boeing, say conference delegates A deep shake up at Boeing is needed, people at t...

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by 9Patch
Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX9 Returning to service Friday
Replies: 112
Views: 19913

Re: AS MAX9 Returning to service Friday

Per the earnings call just now, Alaska expects to have all 65 737-9 back in service in eight days from today. So by next Friday. Also they are now expecting delays in the 23 deliveries it had scheduled for 2024. 16 of them being 737-9 and seven 737-8. Any word on how many defective airplanes they h...

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by 9Patch
Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

I would suspect that the Boeing 737MAX sagas will be part of Business School case studies for decades to come. Hopefully business schools will start teaching the downside of financial-only focus and short term thinking. Boeing sure has been offering a lot of grist for Business School case studies, ...

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by 9Patch
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

DJ's Aviation is reporting: United Airlines has said that following the final approval, it’ll return its fleet to scheduled operations starting Sunday, January 28, 2024. Meanwhile, Alaska Airlines expects its Boeing 737-9s to return to service on Friday, January 26, 2024, representing another crucia...

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by 9Patch
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

The Seattle Times is reporting that Boeing mis-installed the door plug. Wow, it just keeps getting worse for Boeing. Boeing, not Spirit, mis-installed piece that blew off Alaska MAX 9 jet, industry source says The fuselage panel that blew off an Alaska Airlines jet earlier this month was removed for...

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by 9Patch
Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

If he is a current Boeing employee why didn.t he intervene or let the alarmbells go off.? Easy to stay on the sideline and do nothing and know step forward after this incident happened. Yeah he is a real hero now... Right like Tuesday morning arm-chair quarterbacking... Sounds more like a disgruntl...

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by 9Patch
Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s Troubles
Replies: 850
Views: 108013

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

FAA halts production expansion of Boeing’s Max jets — but clears inspection process to resume Max 9 flights “The exhaustive, enhanced review our team completed after several weeks of information gathering gives me and the FAA confidence to proceed to the inspection and maintenance phase,” FAA Admin...

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by 9Patch
Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network - 2023
Replies: 4127
Views: 851118

Re: American add new CLT routes and modify Europe from other hubs

i like the ORD upgauges. cross fleeting the 789s over the 788s on ORD/PHL-CDG/ATH/FCO/VCE/BCN/DUB/LHR ought to be the move going forward, at least in the higher seasons. glad to see that the 787 deliveries for AA are coming through, although it’s very telling that AA is moving a lot of DFW-deep Lat...

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by 9Patch
Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Pennsylvania (ABE/AVP/MDT/ERI/SCE/IPT/JST/etc.) Aviation Thread
Replies: 36
Views: 7196

Re: The Rest of Pennsylvania (ABE/AVP/MDT/ERI/SCE/IPT/JST/etc.) Aviation Thread

If Allegiant, Avelo or another carrier does start service out of Erie to MCO, they might be able to entice say a few people from Ashtabula, OH, Jamestown, NY, and Edinboro to use the service, but the success of the route will largely be dependent on how much the local Erie market supports it. Edinb...

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by 9Patch
Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russia has only built 2 commercial airliners so far in 2023
Replies: 79
Views: 25021

Re: Russia has only built 2 commercial airliners so far in 2023

President Putin says Russia plans to build 1,000 passenger planes by 2030 https://www.aerotime.aero/images/Irkut-MC-21-800x500.jpg Speaking in front of a selected audience and viewers at home, the Russian leader said that the market is currently “overloaded” with planes manufactured by Airbus and B...

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by 9Patch
Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MAX 7 Certification Progress?
Replies: 157
Views: 40431

Re: MAX 7 Certification Progress?

But the point still stands. Re-engineer the wing all you want, but if it still has the same attachment point to the fuselage and a very similar ground clearance, you run into the same issue when you mount giant engines underneath/in front of it. The center wing box was re-engineered to provide more...

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by 9Patch
Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First transatlantic flight using 100% green fuel.
Replies: 65
Views: 9385

Re: First transatlantic flight using 100% green fuel.

An interesting article in the WaPo on SAF. Some scientists say the benefits are exaggerated. Studies have found that incentives for corn-based ethanol gasoline additives are exacerbating climate change. “The concern is they will end up subsidizing fuels that take an enormous amount of land to produc...

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by 9Patch
Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska / Hawaiian Air Merger Discussion
Replies: 1208
Views: 168656

Re: AS to acquire HA; operate as separate brand.

Haha! Saw this posted on Facebook yesterday: Now that Alaska and Hawaiian Airlines have announced their engagement... let's talk tails. Alaska Airlines' "Chester" and Hawaiian Airlines' "Pualani" are both icons of North American aviation and have been for decades. Now that airlin...

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by 9Patch
Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Drunk and Asleep on the Job: Air Traffic Controllers Pushed to the Brink
Replies: 42
Views: 7455

Re: Drunk and Asleep on the Job: Air Traffic Controllers Pushed to the Brink

Maybe human air traffic controllers can be replaced or augmented by AI.

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by 9Patch
Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2023 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread
Replies: 271
Views: 68193

Re: Dubai Air Show 2023 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread

Leeham News has an article (paywall) on the Dubai Air Show. Boeing racked up 313 orders—232 firm and 81 non-firm orders. Airbus garnered 86 orders. Heavy demand for twin-aisle aircraft helped Boeing land more orders. The Summary says: Widebody orders lead narrowbody orders Resurgent international tr...

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by 9Patch
Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce successful test of Ultrafan demonstrator
Replies: 106
Views: 24266

Re: Rolls Royce successful test of Ultrafan demonstrator

There has been very little news about the ultrafan demonstrator. Have I missed something? What is the next step in the ultrafan development and testing? 2023-11-13 On the sidelines of Dubai Airshow 2023, Rolls-Royce announced it has achieved a significant milestone by successfully running its Ultra...

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by 9Patch
Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2023 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread
Replies: 271
Views: 68193

Re: Dubai Air Show 2023 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread

T-1000 problems were fixed in 2019, why rehash RR problems of old now, are we to endure Pratt woes into the `30s after they`ve been fixed? The fact is T-1000 & T-7000 are decent engines, just look at recent orders for B787 with Gulf, Egypt, & Lufty. Sir Tim is keeping his powder dry on his ...

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by 9Patch
Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: BR odering A350-1000 and A321neo
Replies: 125
Views: 32702

Re: EVA Air plans to order A350-1000 and A321neo

I don't know how you can measure shoulder width on a seat so the best measurement we have is what is being done. It stands to reason that the wider the bottom the more room you have at the shoulders.as I have yet to see seats that somehow get wider at the top from the base. So when talking about 17...

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by 9Patch
Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: BR odering A350-1000 and A321neo
Replies: 125
Views: 32702

Re: EVA Air plans to order A350-1000 and A321neo

Seat width doesn't matter as much as seat pitch anyway. It's usually tight seat pitch that makes people think "Packing people in". Correct, and the seat bottom width is not the primary thing that affects a passenger’s comfort. The width of the armrest and the amount of shoulder space is w...

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by 9Patch
Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: BR odering A350-1000 and A321neo
Replies: 125
Views: 32702

Re: EVA Air order A350-100 and A321neo

Exactly this. They saw how their Taiwanese competitors China Airlines and Star Lux had good experiences with A350s and customers loved them. Customers won't love them if they go 10-abreast in economy class. Considering EVA is one of the few operators that still operate 9-abreast 77W's there'll be n...

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by 9Patch
Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: BR odering A350-1000 and A321neo
Replies: 125
Views: 32702

Re: EVA Air order A350-100 and A321neo

13 of Eva Air B777-300s are between 13.6 to 17.4 years old, the remaining 21 are between 6.1 to 9.6 years old. 18 A350Ks seem to be replacing the older batch plus accounting for growth. If they perform well for EVA, in about 5 years we might see a follow-up order for the rest of B777-300 fleet. Exa...

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by 9Patch
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74355

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

Folks, the 10 vs 9-abreast conversation is all very interesting, but as I said before, if that is the A350's "problem" then its in a pretty good place. It doesn't need 10-abreast to be competitive. It is very evidently competitive against both the 787 and 77X at 9-abreast. The reality is ...

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by 9Patch
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74355

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

Folks, the 10 vs 9-abreast conversation is all very interesting, but as I said before, if that is the A350's "problem" then its in a pretty good place. It doesn't need 10-abreast to be competitive. It is very evidently competitive against both the 787 and 77X at 9-abreast. The reality is ...

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by 9Patch
Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74355

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

I've done some basic calculations, and i've used the minimum 38cm/15 inch aisle requirement from the FAA, which although not all of these aircraft will be used solely in the United States, i'd imagine all aircraft will comply as it would limit which countries you could fly to as i'd imagine most co...

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by 9Patch
Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74355

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

Marginally less comfortable, and yes, they are both going to suck. The A350 is 6 inches narrower than a 777-300ER. Some of that will be in the aisles. The plane is going to cost so much less to operate than a 77X that I don't see airlines paying up for a tiny bit wider of seats. Especially in today...

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by 9Patch
Thu Nov 02, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t
Replies: 484
Views: 74355

Re: A350-1000 take-off weight hiked to 322t

I just don't get anyone ordering the 779, that hasn't already yet. The increase in passenger count is so marginal compared to a 10 across 351. and it costs so much more to operate. Even in the most slot constrained places, I can't see the math working. I'm American. I would love to see Boeing regai...

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by 9Patch
Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG in talks to replace BA 777s
Replies: 330
Views: 63304

Re: IAG in talks to replace BA 777s

According to Boeing the HGW version of the 787-10 will add an additional 430 nmi range or the equivalent in payload. This is a 6.4 ton increase in MTOW. https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/boeing-reveals-more-information-about-increased-weight-787-9-and-787-10-aircraft The article says 6.4 metric to...

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by 9Patch
Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: United orders 50 additional B787 and 60 A321s
Replies: 223
Views: 39253

Re: Media: More B787's and A321s for United?

Are the 50 options excerised today meant to be the 77E/77W replacement that the A350 would have been a contender for (or even the 777X)? I am surprised UA did not go with the 77X for some of their long haul trunk routes out of SFO as the 789 is not that big of an aircraft (and the 781 has payload r...

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by 9Patch
Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern Airlines has placed an order for 100 C919 jets
Replies: 38
Views: 5845

Re: China Eastern Airlines has placed an order for 100 C919 jets

But can it do the job as well as the competition? According to the C919 Wiki article the answer is NO: ... The Financial Times commented that China considers it is a source of national pride. omac_C919 It rather depends on the job, then. If the government is paying for it, and the government thinks...

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by 9Patch
Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern Airlines has placed an order for 100 C919 jets
Replies: 38
Views: 5845

Re: China Eastern Airlines has placed an order for 100 C919 jets

Good news for COMAC... Wikipedia shows their total orderbook at 698 aircraft, that's impressive. I think competition for Airbus & Boeing is essential to maintaining a healthy aerospace sector. Curious to see how the Chinese domestic industry for many of the foreign-made (i.e. avionics, engines ...

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by 9Patch
Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern Airlines has placed an order for 100 C919 jets
Replies: 38
Views: 5845

Re: China Eastern Airlines has placed an order for 100 C919 jets

Good news for COMAC... Wikipedia shows their total orderbook at 698 aircraft, that's impressive. I think competition for Airbus & Boeing is essential to maintaining a healthy aerospace sector. Curious to see how the Chinese domestic industry for many of the foreign-made (i.e. avionics, engines ...

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by 9Patch
Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pratt & Whitney GTF engine issues; many aircraft grounded
Replies: 248
Views: 79795

Re: Pratt & Whitney GTF engine issues; many aircraft grounded

Meanwhile, Airbus keeps delivering A321s and A220's that are powered by the GTF. Because customers keep ordering them and then expecting delivery. They don't have much choice at this stage. They have already bought and are operating PW engines. If they wanted to switch to LEAP they'd have to wait a...

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by 9Patch
Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pratt & Whitney GTF engine issues; many aircraft grounded
Replies: 248
Views: 79795

Re: Pratt & Whitney GTF engine issues; many aircraft grounded

I wonder about compensation for the lost revenue for affected airlines. With a significant number of airplanes parked, if PW is required to give compensation, the figures could run into the hundreds of millions of dollars. Perhaps more than PW can afford? If an airplane brings in $200,000/day, and ...

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by 9Patch
Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1048
Views: 321474

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

LH is returning its final two of its eight remaining A380s to service over the next year or two: "Lufthansa is also retrieving its last two mothballed Airbus A380 wide-body aircraft. The aircraft are currently still parked in Teruel, Spain, and are expected to be reintegrated into the fleet be...

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by 9Patch
Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pratt & Whitney GTF engine issues; many aircraft grounded
Replies: 248
Views: 79795

Re: Pratt & Whitney GTF engine issues; many aircraft grounded

Good - At least Delta should be able to take care of themselves if they can get the parts needed. The issue is limited to specific batches of engines. Delta's are not affected. Delta will, however, likely make money off of inspecting/repairing other's engines. https://aviationweek.com/air-transport...

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Speedy752: "How is LEAPs reliability? I haven’t heard aside from isolated issues any problems."

9Patch wrote:
LEAP engines are coming off wing for well before initial forecasts.
https://leehamnews.com/2023/09/12/pontifications-13/

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by 9Patch
Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Moonshot for engines for Next Boeing Airplane may have to wait
Replies: 3
Views: 1301

Re: Moonshot for engines for Next Boeing Airplane may have to wait

NameOmitted wrote:
I think the article intends to say that the Open Fan alone has a potential for 20% savings, while evolutionary engine design along with the TBW airframe could produce 25%. Presumably the Open Fan and TBW together could produce more.


Thanks. That makes sense now.

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by 9Patch
Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Moonshot for engines for Next Boeing Airplane may have to wait
Replies: 3
Views: 1301

Re: Moonshot for engines for Next Boeing Airplane may have to wait

LEAP and GTF engines can provide a 25% fuel burn improvement, why would you bother with an Open Fan that provides only 20%? I think the article intends to say that the Open Fan alone has a potential for 20% savings, while evolutionary engine design along with the TBW airframe could produce 25%. Pre...

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by 9Patch
Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Moonshot for engines for Next Boeing Airplane may have to wait
Replies: 3
Views: 1301

Moonshot for engines for Next Boeing Airplane may have to wait

Leeham has a new post up today about engines for the Boeing airplane 737 replacement. It says airlines will probably be reluctant to take a moonshot on a new Open Fan engine because of service issues with the CFM LEAP and Pratt & Whitney GTF engines. They will want proof that the engines will de...

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