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by shmerik
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
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Views: 190474

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

No, the designation drove absolutely no engineering choices on the part of the engineers. Managers and bean counters drove for reduced risk designation so they could force the engineers to do something cheap, quick, and dirty. You can, as a person of integrity, tell your manager to screw off if the...

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by shmerik
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
Replies: 1740
Views: 190474

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

What evidence do you have that is anything other than stick lightening? Please provide a source that says that. When EASA does get to fly it's tests hopefully later this week hopefully we will know for sure. I think the reason so many of us are skeptical of the extent of the lightening claims is th...

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by shmerik
Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

It hasn't even gotten to being Boeing's problem yet. We could go on and on. You want it both ways. You can't have it both ways. You're undermining your own posts by saying that we are the "mercy of regulators". If we're at the mercy of the regulators, how do we know that Boeing is the rea...

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by shmerik
Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

FAA has already told Boeing exactly what they need to do, it's called the Federal Aviation Regulations. Source? Once again you're making assumptions that the FAA is infallible, is the perfect arbiter ruling only according to written guidelines, and presenting those assumptions as factual. What publ...

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by shmerik
Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

Wouldn't it be better if the FAA just told Boeing exactly what they needed to do to get the plane certified again rather than constantly going back and forth? If the FAA gives Boeing specifics I'm sure their engineers can figure out. That would have to work better than their current process of Boei...

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by shmerik
Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

I'm not sure the situation has degraded or the time lines have shifted. We have been given a lot of info around the time line and the process from Boeing itself, and it's natural that such info would be presented in an optimistic way. For all we know FAA was never in agreement on the timeline and n...

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by shmerik
Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

I wouldn't hold your breath for details. There is pretty much no chance that non-MCAS characteristics will be released. With a very quick read/skim, I found this part of the FOIA which I believe is pertinent: (b) This section does not apply to matters that are— (4) trade secrets and commercial or f...

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by shmerik
Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/flyersrights-sues-faa-for-refusal-to-release-boeing-737-max-records-300978034.html FlyersRights Sues FAA For Refusal To Release Boeing 737 MAX Records FlyersRights.org, the largest airline passenger organization, has filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in ...

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by shmerik
Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

...nor have we seen anything from them saying all the requirements requested were not provided... The FAA's quote about being certain that they aren't reviewing "piecemeal" documentation suggests that at that point the documentation they received was incomplete, which would likely fail to...

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by shmerik
Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

It's strange to see the sudden conclusion that many have reached that now the only reason certification is being extended is because the FAA is being wishy-washy with requirements and trying to prove a point (the whole idea that things were good to go back in June/July and now the FAA is just flexin...

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by shmerik
Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Well given it's the FAA controlling this dance and the FAA is the one not saying anything on concrete requirements/milestones, I wonder if Boeing can sue for damages after the fact for gross mismanagement of the process. FAA's milestones: There are five key milestones Boeing must complete with the ...

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by shmerik
Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

On the other hand, we know that the shop was calibrating sensors incorrectly. We also know it's the shop where JT610's sensor came from. So… that rather tilts the odds somewhat beyond a 50/50 chance. Please provide a source that shows "we know that the shop was calibrating sensors incorrectly&...

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by shmerik
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Re. Pilot Training, looks like at least one airline is considering stepping up requirements for the MAX: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/india-weighs-tougher-rules-boeing-094309095.html India's Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) may consider mandating a minimum number of flying hours for pi...

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by shmerik
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

On Nov. 14, Dickson told his team to "take whatever time is needed" in their review of the 737 MAX. The comments came days after Boeing said it expected the FAA to certify the 737 MAX, issue an airworthiness directive and unground the plane in mid-December, even as it acknowledged it woul...

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by shmerik
Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Based on a Reuter's report in the last 18 hours, the software documentation revisions are still not complete. Many posters here surmised this was just dotting i's and crossing t's formality. Or is the audit itself incomplete / suspended for more fundamental reasons? Also the test flight still hasn'...

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by shmerik
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Many posters here claim they believe this incredible design was the result of a series of good-faith mistakes, driven by a mix of incompetence, schedule pressure and budget constraints. But even if I would really like to subscribe to this opinion, I just cannot bring myself to imagine someone *that...

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by shmerik
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Either way, it's apparent that Boeing broke a cardinal rule in engineering: if you create a product (eg MCAS) to solve a safety issue (stick lightening), the failure of that product cannot cause a more severe issue (uncontrolled nose dive into terrain). Which is why I and many in aerospace engineer...

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by shmerik
Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Actual email and attachments available over at theaircurrent... https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/transport-canada-safety-official-urges-removal-of-mcas-from-737-max/ https://theaircurrent.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/marko-email.jpg https://theaircurrent.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/jim...

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by shmerik
Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Well I'm good then. I don't have the crew at greater than 50% in either crash. Opinions evolve overtime and I reserve judgement until I see the ET final report but as of this second I'm: Lionair 40% Boeing, 20% FAA, 20% Maintenance, 20% Pilots/Lionair Training system (Mainly for Poor CRM and the Pi...

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by shmerik
Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

It must be wonderful to be able to know the secret motivations of someone who, I suppose, must be trying to cover them up by attempting to present a reasonably balanced argument. (and if you dispute the latter, I recommend a remedial reading-English course, as "it was a bad design" must h...

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by shmerik
Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

And has anyone categorically said what will happen to the aerodynamics of max if MCAS is removed or stopped in flight ? Do pilots really need the help from mcas ? Basically if the Max can fly OK without mcas , why keep a potentialy disaster prone system? We do know nacelle lift at high AoA makes th...

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by shmerik
Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

THere is an explanation floating around that 3 second is actually not time to hit kill switch, but time to counteract with yoke - and so use yoke switches to stop the trim. Otherwise 3 seconds basically means lack of cockpit interaction and pressing random switches in emergency. Just try to tell yo...

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by shmerik
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

So where in the Flight Profile of the two crashes (you can see all the traces) do you propose that the MAX's supposed Aerodynamic Instability was a contributing factor in the accidents? Although the controls were hard to use it seemed pretty aerodynamically stable well past VMO on ET - and on Liona...

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by shmerik
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

I am somewhat shocked that the FAA test flights have not been completed, we have seen a number of test flights with the MAX-7, is it that the FAA does not have the resources to conduct multiple examinations at the same time? The other interesting one...Boeing final submission to the FAA, according ...

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by shmerik
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

It's still very difficult for me to wrap my mind around the idea that they unintentionally let this slip through. I agree that there's no smoking gun, and no evidence we are privy to that may legally/technically implicate anyone in intentionally letting safety slide for profit, but it's all just ve...

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by shmerik
Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

To me it reads more like "plausible deniability" rather than "shirking responsibility", but that distinction is up to the reader. Is there any effective difference between the two in today's corporate world? :P The big takeaway for me was that their testing seems to have revolve...

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by shmerik
Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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Boeing would like to deliver its 737 MAX jet before the end of the year to some airlines, even as aviation regulators have yet to approve pilot training: https://www-wsj-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/boeing-seeks-blessing-to-deliver-737-max-as-faa-reviews-pilot-training-115734...

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by shmerik
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... 8-MCAS.pdf

Interesting that the dev and cert timeline slide is completely redacted
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Slide deck from a Boeing presentation to the FAA back in December 2018:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... 8-MCAS.pdf

Interesting that the dev and cert timeline slide is completely redacted

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by shmerik
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

There was a MAX 7 test flight on november 2. "BOE 1". Had filed a route from Boeing Field to Moses Lake. Landed after only 30 minutes of maneuvering that looked like stall tests SW of Boeing Field back at KBFI. Like they had cut short the flight for some reason and diverted. Could this be...

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by shmerik
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

I'd be willing to bet that the FAA - Boeing back and forth is more technicalities than actual problems with what Boeing is submitting. We will see soon enough. If there are significant issues with the submitted fix (for example Boeing continuing to to be opaque and seeming to leave out critical piec...

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by shmerik
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Latest from Reuters: Regulators find gaps in Boeing's 737 MAX software documentation https://finance.yahoo.com/news/regulators-gaps-boeings-737-max-192327972.html Fair use excerpt: WASHINGTON/PARIS (Reuters) - Regulators have asked Boeing Co <BA.N> to fill in gaps in the documentation on its propos...

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by shmerik
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Comet suffered from things nobody knew at the time, using one sensor for a safety critical system today is something different. Definitely. And also once again coming from a software developer perspective, even simple checks for things like AOA changing from 35 to 75 degrees in 3/4 of a second and ...

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by shmerik
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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Can we talk about Boeing/FAA/EASA test flights that are upcoming? Is there a timeline out for when the flights are to be carried out? I'm really hoping part of this will include the recommended re-evaluation of the MAX's flight characteristics without MCAS on approach to stall. I'm not able to tell...

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by shmerik
Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

So, when will we start blaming airlines for being too cheap to provide at least 3 days class and two or three simulator sessions for conversion to MAX and asked Boeing to develop a plane that only requires 1 hour iPad reading? We blamed Boeing, and yes Boeing did something wrong, and we blamed airl...

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by shmerik
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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Thing is, engineering qualification is another weak link in MCAS situation. You can blame a lot of things on management pressure - but two things in present situation that are very hard to justify by external influence: multiple actuations and no input sanitation. I don't find it hard to blame engi...

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by shmerik
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Veering away from the main discussion that's been ongoing in this thread somewhat, what does everyone make of the witness accounts from the Ethiopian crash claiming that the plane was smoking and rattling as it flew overhead? Could these just have been from exceeding Vmo, witnesses remembering thing...

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by shmerik
Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Actually the more I look at the graphs the more confused I'm getting. It looks like they were having more success at climbing even as MCAS was trimming down than after shutting off stab trim. Compare the pitch attitude display from 05:41:00 - 05:41:15 shortly after flipping the switches to from 05:...

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by shmerik
Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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Actually the more I look at the graphs the more confused I'm getting. It looks like they were having more success at climbing even as MCAS was trimming down than after shutting off stab trim. Compare the pitch attitude display from 05:41:00 - 05:41:15 shortly after flipping the switches to from 05:4...

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by shmerik
Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

You forgot to add Stick Shaker/Stall Warning/Master Caution Ant-Ice/Unreliable Air Speed warnings/alerts. Throw in those factors, and you'd likely crash your NG if you are below FL100, no matter what checklist you pull out. So I take it you are retracting you calling BS on me as they would have cra...

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by shmerik
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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So if you were in an NG that had real runaway trim (you would have had to hit both switches to turn off electric trim entirely and stop the runaway) and you are way out of trim over Vmo with AT TOGA engaged possibly making it difficult to use the manual trim wheels (that fact is not established yet...

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by shmerik
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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I realize corruption can also mean lack of integrity or distortion of integrity, but I think most people think of payoff first. I think I'd use the word "greed" rather than "corruption", but of course others are free to have their own opinion. It's pretty telling that Boeing fel...

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by shmerik
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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I'm hoping that before the ungrounding one of the authorities carries out the test recommended by JATR about approaching to stall with MCAS completely disabled and that the results are made public

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by shmerik
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

I fail to understand the 4 seconds reaction time for recognizing MCAS, recognizing it as a trim runaway and shutting of electrical trim completely, Boeing is talking about. One activation of MCAS runs 10 seconds. Does Boeing expected, that not even one activation of MCAS would ever run its course? ...

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by shmerik
Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Forbes has, what appears to be' a good summary of the 'new' evidence presented in congress today. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2019/10/30/heres-the-new-evidence-on-boeing-737-max-development-released-at-house-hearing/#24d6ca004153 Too much gun smoke to see the guns? Ray Among the doc...

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by shmerik
Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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Listen folks, lets take a poll right now: Keeping the Max out of the picture, would you book your wife as a passenger on an NG or any other line aircraft with a Lion Air crew? (I would not as there are serious doubts that the average LA crew could handle much of any curve ball the aircraft or the w...

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by shmerik
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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No that is not what I said - I said I expected they would have crashed an NG that had a control issue (anything out of the ordinary) that day as well. I would extend that to any aircraft that they flew with a control issue. Stop misrepresenting what I said. People still can't get the basic concept ...

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by shmerik
Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738947

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Also the senator that asked the victim's families to stand up and then hold up signs of the deceased seemed extremely tasteless. What was the purpose? Seemed like a cheap photo op for newspapers with headlines, "Boeing CEO Muilenberg DESTROYED!" Extremely tasteless? IMHO, it was spot on. ...

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