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by Checklist787
Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR
Replies: 387
Views: 65503

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

You don't know your history: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aircraft/images/7/75/7J7_Concept.png/revision/latest?cb=20131022200759 Now did this ever go beyond the drawing board? on par with the sonic cruiser as phantom projects go? ( Was the primary purpose dangling "cooperation" tow...

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by Checklist787
Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

On the other side the 737-8 outsells the A320neo but the A321neo outsells the 737-8 is a clear proof that the focus is in a 200-seater in recent years and will be for decades to come... Does the 737-8 outsell the A320NEO? I don't have the numbers.. According to them sources probably do not: https:/...

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by Checklist787
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

  The widebody size sweetspot is getting smaller each year. It is probably already at 787-8 and A330-800 as the perfect widebody size but both designs are not optimised. Bingo! You defeated the devil with this question! The lukewarm sales of the A330-200's / -800's / 787-8 's do not indicate that t...

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by Checklist787
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

But it is clear that the NMA is a plan they do not want to give up... It seems QF is still looking forward to what they think of as “the perfect aircraft” for Australian domestic operations. In comments from August 9th, QF's CEO said: Mr Joyce described Boeing’s proposed New Midsize Airplane (NMA) ...

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by Checklist787
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

If i had to estimate the chance of what the 797 cross section would be I would say: 50% 8ab educed height 30% 8ab circular 10% 7ab circular 5% 7ab reduced height 5% 787 9ab cross section I think the chances of 797 cross section 6ab circular is growing. To save weight, cost, ease supply chain and gi...

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by Checklist787
Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

[twoid][/twoid]

FrenchPotatoEye wrote:
What is 787-1000?

I'm not understandings?


MDR !
It's an Airbus 787-1000Neo-XWB-XULR...

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by Checklist787
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing delays 777-8X entry into service
Replies: 154
Views: 25424

Re: 778x mothballed?

Jon is normally a pretty reliable source, so I certainly wouldn't bet against it. There has been a lot of talk about it being dropped, but many here didn't give that much credit. Given Boeing's other issues, it seems like a fairly obvious way to clear some stuff off their plate. The cost may be the...

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by Checklist787
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR
Replies: 387
Views: 65503

Re: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

Its a sad day for us 777 fans. I was hoping QF would pick the 778 but it seems like (given the launch by Airbus and no word from QF yet) that the A35J-ULR will be the Project Sunrise plane. Congrats to Airbus though! The A350 is a fantastic plane that keeps getting better. Project Sunrise is just a...

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by Checklist787
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2569
Views: 334612

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

PW100 wrote:
If not such tragedy, MCAS would be a Farce Majeure . . .


It's funny :lol:

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by Checklist787
Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Increases International Presence, Makes First Entrance Into Africa
Replies: 508
Views: 94331

Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

thekorean wrote:
777-9 orders?

A huge NMA-797X orders / Memorundum Of Understanding

And Aut :eek: risation To Offer from Boeing

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by Checklist787
Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Increases International Presence, Makes First Entrance Into Africa
Replies: 508
Views: 94331

Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

Dieuwer wrote:
They will never ever order a Boeing plane again? :D

A huuuuge Boeing order! :biggrin:

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by Checklist787
Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2569
Views: 334612

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Wow that is dark and bold indeed! This certainly will galvanize anti-Boeing sentiment especially in Europe. I can't read german but I think that anti-Boeing sentiment in Europe existed already without the MAX crashes, certainly if this site is any indication! Spiegel magazine is very reputable, thi...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

From the Scoot 321 thread: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1428053 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/scoot-taking-16-new-fuel-efficient-airbus-321neos-to-add-capacity-and-grow Our current fleet is made up of the A-320 which has between 180 and 186 seats, and t...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

DenverTed wrote:
How long will the 797 be?
-6 at 48m and -7 at 53m?
Wingspan of 48m?


797-6X : 48m. Wingspan : 44 m
797-7X : 54m. Wingspan : 44m
:stirthepot:

Image

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Except Emirates clearly is changing its strategy. :roll: Clearly? Yes, clearly . :yes: They've cancelled (yes, it was their decision) most of their outstanding A380s and swapped them for smaller A330neos and A359s. At the same time, they are still apparently negotiating a deal for 787s, no longer -...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

The A321 will have an empty weight of around 52t, engine choice and low operating costs, also >4000NM. Comfortably 18 inch seats 19 inch aisle. The 52t enables it however to fly the bulk of the flights, 1-4 hours efficiently too. Thats why it's ordered by the thousands. Will a 5000NM twin aisle be ...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

The A321 will have an empty weight of around 52t, engine choice and low operating costs, also >4000NM. Comfortably 18 inch seats 19 inch aisle. The 52t enables it however to fly the bulk of the flights, 1-4 hours efficiently too. Thats why it's ordered by the thousands. Will a 5000NM twin aisle be ...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Airbus widebodies from A310 to A380 have all had a luxe "standard" configuration and a <17" "charter" configuration. Boeing widebodies have been inconsistent. The 747, 777X, and 787 were designed around a single configuration (hot-air 8Y 787 marketing notwithstanding) with ...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

That sounds about right - maybe slightly slimmer Aisles - but about 160-165" H and about 188-190"W External - 25% more cross section than A321. 25% more cross section for 17% more seats, not good enough. They need to get it down below 160" internally, the more the better. Being able ...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

If Airbus could get enough orders on the 9 abreast A350, they wouldn't had made the active push for the 10 abreast during PAS. Fact is, they have noticed and acknowledged that the 350 is not delivering as much of an impact to the Boeing lineup, and they are finding ways to get around the issue. The...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

The 17.2 "seat width is very good, and even more so on the 787 and 777-X combo due to the entirely new cabin environment of the 787's and 777-X's with larger portholes and a better air humidity with a lower altitude to reduce traveler fatigue compared to older planes like the A330, and 777 (no...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

So airlines have spoken and it would be crazy to do a 7 abreast with more than 17" seats. Airbus marketing is just that, airlines care about performance and passengers care about price. The 17.2 "seat width is very good, and even more so on the 787 and 777-X combo due to the entirely new ...

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by Checklist787
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Who cares about the Airbus crowd? Airlines care about numbers and smaller seats mean better numbers. I would not expect more than 16.5-17.3" for the 797. Airbus marketing material is always advertising wider cabins. I don't think Boeing wants to always be on the negative side of that material....

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by Checklist787
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

I think the 737-10 MAX and NMA / 797X combo will box up and down the A321. It's a good strategy and Boeing deserves better than the current position Why deserves Boeing better? Anyway it seems large airlines long term want a choice & competition when ordering aircraft. Examples are United and B...

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by Checklist787
Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1256
Views: 170766

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

I think the 737-10 MAX and NMA / 797X combo will box up and down the A321. It's a good strategy and Boeing deserves better than the current position

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by Checklist787
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Should Lockheed get back into commerical aircraft?
Replies: 50
Views: 6182

Re: SHOULD LOCKHEED GET BACK INTO COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT?

twaconnie wrote:
Just thinking with only two major manufactures is there room for a third? Down the road I see a big market for replacement aircraft.Looking for opinions.


Fully agree!

The market is huuuuuuge!

And Lockheed has built a remarkable aircraft, the L1011 Tristar

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by Checklist787
Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2569
Views: 334612

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

What would the financial hit to Boeing be if the MAX never ever flies again? they would not be able to move a significant amount of orders to the NG because the gap to the 320NEO is to big you cant make that difference in economics up with a lower price they need tht MAX if it never flies again ......

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by Checklist787
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Except Emirates clearly is changing its strategy. :roll: Clearly? OK. Your sources? :roll: wow...you continue to ask people to provide sources, yet duck and hide when people ask you to provide the same for your bold claims that seem pulled from thin air. And you roll your eyes on top of that. I alr...

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by Checklist787
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Except Emirates clearly is changing its strategy. :roll: Clearly? OK. Your sources? :roll: Sources, maybe your own eyes? EK have focused on the A380 and the 77W for the last decade, and would have continued with the A380, they are renegotiating 77X orders, adding A339s and A359s which is a change f...

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by Checklist787
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

scbriml wrote:
Checklist787 wrote:
A lot of time goes by that does not mean that such carrier will change strategy.


Except Emirates clearly is changing its strategy. :roll:


Clearly?
OK. Your sources? :roll:

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by Checklist787
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

The A35K is now significantly more capable than in 2013. :roll: Except that T. CLARK preferred the specifications of the first iteration of the A350-1000 (before 2011) And a lot has changed for Emirates between then and now, so what he said six years ago is pretty much irrelevant now. :roll: A lot ...

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by Checklist787
Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

The resculpting of the sidewalls likely added weight to the fuselage. More metal required in the sculpted frames to take the stress. It's wrong. On the contrary the finer CFRP will increase the cabin width by 4 "and the lighter CFRP will lighten the airplane :banghead: This is news to me that ...

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by Checklist787
Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Middle East 3 Carriers are the Lifeline for 777-8/-9 Program

RB211trent wrote:
Checklist787 wrote:
RB211trent wrote:
The A330neo and A359 order Is definitely going ahead. Definitely![/quote
In the current times, never say "definitive" just because you like RR engines.

Experience shows that anything can happen :yes:


It’s not because “I like” rolls-Royce engines.

Airbus then? :roll:

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by Checklist787
Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

scbriml wrote:
Checklist787 wrote:
You forget that T. Clark had said that the A350-1000 did not have the shoulders in June 2013.


The A35K is now significantly more capable than in 2013. :roll:


Except that T. CLARK preferred the specifications of the first iteration of the A350-1000 (before 2011)

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by Checklist787
Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

The 77W OEW is 167.8t. The 778 is 5m shorter than the 77W. At 2.3t/m, the 778 will be at least 11t less than the 77W before wings (going to composites should save weight), and engines (10% less thrust but about 3t more weight for both). You are comparing it to a 77W and making all sorts of wild ass...

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by Checklist787
Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Middle East 3 Carriers are the Lifeline for 777-8/-9 Program

The Etihad order is almost certainly reduced from 25 to 6. OTOH that A350 order by Emirates is firm even if it isnt 100% finalised. There might still be a A380 order in the books formally, but the order has been changed over. It will likely be finalised after they have a new deal in place with Boei...

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by Checklist787
Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Middle East 3 Carriers are the Lifeline for 777-8/-9 Program

Yup better stay uninformed in your little bubble. More importantly, there should be a rolleyes quotum around here. Does anyone have confirmation on the Emirates A330NEO and A350 order? I do agree the A359 order should effect the 778 order. But as far as I know, the order isn't finalized for either....

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by Checklist787
Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

StTim wrote:
The resculpting of the sidewalls likely added weight to the fuselage. More metal required in the sculpted frames to take the stress.


It's wrong.

On the contrary the finer CFRP will increase the cabin width by 4 "and the lighter CFRP will lighten the airplane

:banghead:

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by Checklist787
Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Middle East 3 Carriers are the Lifeline for 777-8/-9 Program

C'mon keesje - the Emirates A350 deal is not firm and in Airbus' backlog. Yet. Is there a Boeing or etubhad release noting the 777X reductions? I haven't found one despite searching. Wonder what gives?? The airline was quick to cancel 350, perhaps too quick....but I can't see some official statemen...

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by Checklist787
Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Middle East 3 Carriers are the Lifeline for 777-8/-9 Program

Yes, maybe I was optimistic on Etihad. It appears it's 6 now. https://samchui.com/2019/02/16/etihad-adjusts-airbus-and-boeing-aircraft-order/#.XR3oCugzbcs ? is it only an LOI? Then Airbus should change its wording.. https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2019/02/airbus-and-emirates-reach...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site
Replies: 154
Views: 19080

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site

Yes I have. And like pretty much all documentaries, it was extremely biased. Find a news organization with no bias and then let's talk. That's the part i love the most. When folks see something they don't like then they call it "media bias". The FBI doesn't quite agree with you - https://...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site
Replies: 154
Views: 19080

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site

This is not looking good right after publication of outsourcing critical software design to developing countries, too slow processors to handle MCAS 2.0 and the absence of the supposed to be delivered 787-10 at KL’s 100 year festivities. One can only hope that Boeing seriously rethinks their way of...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

I would assume the 777-8 is on the way out with Emirates, maybe all together. Too heavy & expensive for EK long routes like LAX. 787-9s, A350’s can do the job at (significant) lower costs, risks https://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2019/06/06/delays-in-boeings-737-max-and-777x-could-weigh-on...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 758
Views: 131996

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

Yes they got their priority / timeline wrong with the 777X. The move away from VLAs and the cancellation of the A380neo combined means a much smaller market even for a 777 without competition in the 400+ pax range. Etihad is mostly out, The ME2 are looking for replacing their 777/A380's, which mean...

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by Checklist787
Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 550
Views: 123977

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Delivery flight of Line #862, PH-BKA, KLM's #1 787-10 (per allthings787) https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KLM100/history/20190629/2230Z/KCHS/EHAM UAL747-600 This was at least one day late. There were trouble with documentation of tank sealing qualifications. KLM wanted to use the arrival of it's...

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by Checklist787
Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH will look at A321XLR, but it's no game-changer: CEO
Replies: 183
Views: 24867

Re: LH will look at A321XLR, but it's no game-changer: CEO

More comfortable to spend a long flight in a narrow-body with 3+3 and 18" wide seats, than a 777 in 3+3+3 with 17" wide seats any day! The A320 3-3 / 6-abreast 18 "wide seats 30" pitch. I prefer the 777 3-3-3 / 9-abreast 17 "wide seats 31/32" pitch any day. :roll:

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by Checklist787
Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45825

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

Yeah - which on A321 floor area equates to 240 seats single class! So if you've floor area for 270 seats single class in 6AB, your probably looking at something like 132 seats first class (@39") and 72 seats economy (@32") to make it add up to 200 seats total. If you've floor area for 270...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45825

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

2-class 200 seats Business seat @ 85 "pitch lie-flat should work too (A321 AA Transconti, A321 Jet Blue) :scratchchin: Yeah - which on A321 floor area equates to 240 seats single class! So if you've floor area for 270 seats single class in 6AB, your probably looking at something like 132 seats...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45825

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

:arrow: 7ab = one more aisle needed Since when do we need a single aisle for 270 passengers? This is the basic rule that everything a.Netter needs a minimum knowledge. imho :scratchchin: :arrow: Need for a wider cross section :arrow: Significant drag and weight disadvantage over NB design, higher f...

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by Checklist787
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45825

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

Where is the problem with a widebody 200-270 seater?? :roll: Your looking at the numbers just as well as me. It should be pretty clear and obvious to you. If you are insisting on 2-class 200 seats, where do you find the other 30 seats from for sardine-class? A 2 class cabin at 200 seats won't work ...

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