The treaty was suspended not only by Poland but in a concerted action by all NATO members, bound by this treaty. See below a note from what I guess is your government. By the way Russia supended its participation in 2007 and denounced the treaty entirely in 2023. https://www.government.nl/documents/...
Jump to postUmmmmm 80-90% of airlines are desperately are trying to survive. Don’t understand why my comment is bizarre. Sure LOT should shut down too, Ryanair and Wizzair can take over everything. Is BT is such dire straits? I thought they were in decent shape by the looks of it and now apparently studying th...
Jump to postIn the best of times for aviation like 2023 the operations of BT are unable to generate cash sufficient to meet interest on its financial liabilities and leasing payments. And with the refinancing of its bond debt this year the coupon will only go up. Will the Latvian state fork the cash again and ...
Jump to postIs BT is such dire straits? I thought they were in decent shape by the looks of it and now apparently studying the possibility of longhaul flying to the US. To my mind LO itself needs a parent company to thrive, but I am not sure which group would be interested. Relationship between LO and BT would...
Jump to postWhy would LOT even consider associating itself with a company that is desparately seeking any possibility to survive? This tops the list of the most bizarre comments I have read here. Ummmmm 80-90% of airlines are desperately are trying to survive. Don’t understand why my comment is bizarre. Sure L...
Jump to postSo reading from the Polish source, the plan is for delivery of 84 aircraft by end of 2028, and plan on flying 17 Million passengers that year. Initially I wasn’t sure that Airbus could deliver that many A220s, but they are planning on ramping up at 14 per month in 2026, “ The smaller single-aisle v...
Jump to postLOT offers great connections at its compact hub. This is thanks to the frequencies, thus E-jets to FRA and CDG. LHR is now all 73M. Can the hub be expanded, i.e. can WAW do the job over CPK? To my mind LO may actually enjoy an advantage at WAW which it might loose at CPK... It can, and there were p...
Jump to postMaybe at the beginning of the year just a short recap of what we can expect from LOT in 2024. LOT will (re)start: - TAS (apparently very good choice, since LOT can fly its MAX's there while others would have to use wide-body) - RUH (high hopes, as the tourism from the Arabian Peninsula to Poland is...
Jump to postET got slots in WAW for S24. We shall now see whether they decide to use them.
Jump to postLOT is opening its own lounge at ORD 3/4Q24.
Renderings: https://www.rynek-lotniczy.pl/wiadomosc ... 18820.html
Will the JetBlue codeshare open the new US routes for LOT?? I’m willing to bet this means WAW-BOS will launch next year :) According to the presentation by the CEO, in 2028 approx. 25% of the approx. 110 fleet is to be lh. That means approx. 27 lh planes in total, which means an increase of approx....
Jump to postAn interesting thing from the press conference of the CEO, is that he is very focused on LO becoming a premium brand. Own lounges in JFK and ORD are a small part of that. A premium brand with the size of the premium cabins that they have? Cheap PR talk. Well, if you look at it as a process, you wil...
Jump to postThat's great news! Still, LO must be desperate to join a JV -- if only OW offered them that, would be promising. With SAS folding into one of the leading consolidated groups and likely TAP soon too, LO will be Europe's last sizeable independent legacy out there... Why exactly would LO be desperate ...
Jump to postI gather some of us must be thinking this after the announcement of SK heading for SkyTeam -- any new clues suggesting LO would stray towards OneWorld? (Yes, I know about M&M and their premium folk being tied to LH status etc...) From what I know, CEO was talking only about Jetblue codeshare an...
Jump to postI bet Israel knows what they are doing, when they keep TLV open. Still for example Poland will now be doing evacuation flights via Chania, Greece. Three Hercules C-130 will be shuttling people from TLV to CHQ and then they get on planes chartered from LOT flying CHQ to WAW. So no civilian plane is s...
Jump to postI gather some of us must be thinking this after the announcement of SK heading for SkyTeam -- any new clues suggesting LO would stray towards OneWorld? (Yes, I know about M&M and their premium folk being tied to LH status etc...) From what I know, CEO was talking only about Jetblue codeshare an...
Jump to postYesterday new CEO (since June) of LO presented a strategy for 2024-2028. A lot of talk about digitalisation, personalisation, enhancing consumer experience, stable finances. * contracted from lessors 5 new B737max with deliveries by June 2024 * no new long-haul equipment next year * selection of the...
Jump to postIt's not quite in the next 2 years, but yes, ultimately SAS will end up most likely in the new T1. Terminal 7 will be torn down once the first phase of T6 is completed, at which point all the LH airlines are set to move to T6. Then, to clear the space for phase 2 of T6, T7 will be torn down. Do you...
Jump to postLOT and United are ending codesharing after 20 years. The partnership ends September 27th. While this was briefly mentioned in the United Network thread, I thought it should be brought out to the whole forum. Perhaps this will be seen as part of the "LOT is generally dissatisfied with *A"...
Jump to postBiden’s trip to Kyiv was shrouded in secrecy, yet Moscow was apparently notified hours before leaving of Biden’s visit? Then why take away the journalists phones and all other measures? That seems to be a bit strange? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/20/how-biden-pulled-off-a-visit-to-a...
Jump to postWas it confirmed that he was on that plane? Was there any footage of him leaving the plane? RZE is the airport in Poland that is closest to Ukraine. It is around 1h drive (90 km) away from a Polish city of Przemysl, the last train station where trains from Ukraine arrive (track gauge in Ukraine is d...
Jump to postI've seen a lot of very attractive projcted images from architects as to what a new airport will look like. A fair number do not get built... and those that do get built often have significant features cut due to budget constraints. In looking at these images, I can see billions and billions of tax...
Jump to postWhere will this new Orlen installation be? At the airport or elsewhere? What is going on with the new WAW? Have they given up on it? You don't build chemical installations at airports, so it is beeing built at one of Orlen refineries located in Plock, some 100 km to the north-east of Warsaw. The CP...
Jump to postWhere will this new Orlen installation be? At the airport or elsewhere? What is going on with the new WAW? Have they given up on it? You don't build chemical installations at airports, so it is beeing built at one of Orlen refineries located in Plock, some 100 km to the north-east of Warsaw. The CP...
Jump to postA court in Washington dimissed 9 out of 12 claims by LO against Boing in a lawsuit relating to grounding of MAX. The reason being no contract between LO and Boing (LO contracted the planes directly from lessors). The other 3 claims relate to fraud and misrepresentation. https://www.law360.com/articl...
Jump to postI wish they said something *after* they rescued all four planes. All they've managed to do is paint a bullseye on their remaining three planes. The moment one of those aircraft appeared on FR24 in EU or NATO airspace, that bullseye would have appeared on the remaining aircraft Do you think they hav...
Jump to postWizz flying to Ukraine in late February wasn't that bad an idea. Continuing to base aircraft overnight in Ukraine was a very bad idea. LO flight WAW-IEV that was supposed to overnight in Kyiv on 23/24 Feb departered from WAW on the 23 Feb but still in Polish airspace was told to make a U-turn and l...
Jump to postLithuanian government thinks LCY connection will somehow revolutionise the entire economy so they paid for the operation in advance. At the height of COVID, LOT maintained the operation on this city pair, presumably carrying dust. Are they able to route passengers WAW-Vilnius-LCY? They could fill a...
Jump to postToday Wizz evacuated A320 from Lviv to KTW (HA-LWS). The last rotation of the plane was Memmingen-Lviv on 23 Feb.
Wizz continues to have three A320 grounded in Kyiv.
https://www.rynek-lotniczy.pl/wiadomosc ... 15489.html
I very much doubt Air Moldova flying to Moscow, or the Govt in Chisinau allowing these flights will have the slightest influence on Moldova joining the EU. The EU is well aware that Moldova is in an extremely awkward position Exactly that. On another note, they simultanously seem to start routes to...
Jump to postA bizarre interview for one of the Polish aviation portals (in Polish, you may google translate). A senior recruitment person for W6 complains about not being able to recruit new people for lack of interest, badmouths other airlines, says W6 has a policy of not employing people who previously left t...
Jump to postAlso in the news: due to situation in Sri Lanka LO suspends CMB that it used to serve in the winter season since 2019. On this occasion LO disclosed they were very happy with performance of that route and hope to come back. During 7 December 2020-4 May 2021 they had 23 thousend pax on that route (va...
Jump to postI suspect it will be as successful as CQM. The difference with CQM is that both other airports serving Warsaw are congested (and incapable of expansion for environmental reasons), while MAD was expanded by the time CQM opened. Possible alternatives (LUZ or LCJ) are even a bit further from Warsaw. T...
Jump to postLO's WAW-LAX goes summer seasonal. I guess with current gas prices it's difficult to make such a long flight work. https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/220830-lonw22na Not really summer seasonal - the flights are suspended between 11 January and 26 March only. After that 4 weekly and since June again dai...
Jump to postWarsaw has now three commercial airports: WAW, WMI and a new airport: RDO. Not to be mixed with the planned new airport CPK, which is supposed to replace WAW in a couple of years. RDO is owned and operated by operator of WAW. It is located in Radom, 109 km from centre of Warsaw to the south, connect...
Jump to postWhat are the other "strategic" routes? Addis Abeba (ADD), Bangkok (BKK), Bilbao (BIO), Hanoi (HAN), Cairo (CAI), Manchester (MAN), Mumbai (BOM), San Francisco (SFO), Washington (IAD), Toulouse (TLS). I wonder what is the logic behind BIO and TLS. It seems that LYS does not have either fli...
Jump to postBilbao is one of 10 "strategic" routes in the tariff at WAW, so it means a steeper discount for opening it. That's the story. What are the other "strategic" routes? Addis Abeba (ADD), Bangkok (BKK), Bilbao (BIO), Hanoi (HAN), Cairo (CAI), Manchester (MAN), Mumbai (BOM), San Fran...
Jump to postI am bummed that LOT is not going for the E2-jets considering their current fleet and experience on the type. With their E-175s/E-190s they cover now the sub-100seat up to 106 seat category.The A220 is too big for this, with 145pax or 125-130 if they go for the A221and a lot heavier. Wouldn't that ...
Jump to postNo news yet of the impending order for 60 A220’s? If Bloomberg has its information right, the order is imminent... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-15/polish-carrier-lot-said-to-favor-airbus-a220s-in-order-contest Fingers crossed -- hoping to see the A320 and 321 Neos in LOT colours ...
Jump to postAnd of course, this order, if it materialises, will require hefty prepayments. Plus another order is in the works this year, for max or a319neo/320neo. LO would certainly want to grow like pre-covid, but cashflows will put a limit to that growth. In case of split A221/A223 order the A319 makes no s...
Jump to postAs always: Polish state budget. That was the case of Malev and Malev is long gone. Absolutely. Or rather, it was when Malév wasn't allowed to receive further government funds that they went bankrupt. I don't believe, and even less do I hope, that LOT will face the same fate, but under the current c...
Jump to postHow will LO finance such a massive deal? It would not be that massive. Aircraft to be replaced: around 40 embraers plus around 12 dash. The increase would be mostly in capacity per plane. We are also speaking about gradual replacement. Out of the planes to be replaced LO owns only 9 embraers. The r...
Jump to postMalevTU134 wrote:Blerg wrote:How will LO finance such a massive deal?
As always: Polish state budget.
Order mentioned by Bloomberg, if happens, will prove a) LO is ready to go Airbus (first time), and b) LO is ready to move from one type to another (having around 40 embraers in the fleet with some more still coming). That will be interesting in the context of the choice to come next: A320neo/A321neo...
Jump to postEthiopian Airlines has emerged as one of the few profitable airlines through the pandemic and they show no sign of slowing down progress anymore. Here's are my ideas for the future of ET: Europe - Warsaw is a somewhat big gap in ET's European service, especially considering that LOT is a Star Allia...
Jump to postInteresting, thank you. I wonder what they will do with WAW once the new airport opens. I suppose it will be turned into a residential area since it's so close to the city. I guess the new airport won't open before 2030? Well, they work under a schedule foreseeing commercial flights to start with t...
Jump to postWhere will this new Orlen installation be? At the airport or elsewhere? What is going on with the new WAW? Have they given up on it? You don't build chemical installations at airports, so it is beeing built at one of Orlen refineries located in Plock, some 100 km to the north-east of Warsaw. The CP...
Jump to postCOO of LO confirmed they want to choose replacement for the regional fleet by the end of the year. That means at least 50 aircraft and - as he put it - much more in a perspective of several years. The leasing for the last of the embraers ends in the beginning of 2028, but they will be leaving the fl...
Jump to postAs I recall from statement during El Al's shutdown in 2020 virtually the entire European network except London and Paris was loss making. In the particular case of flights TLV-MAD, LY are consistently the most expensive option. IBERIA fly an Airbus 330 and AIR EUROPA fly a 787, while LY fly twice d...
Jump to postThe key question for LO is Asia and not America.. How are their loads on their Mumbai and New Delhi Indian flights? Both routes were profitably flown cargo only during entire covid (3 weekly DEL and 2 weekly BOM), so I guess whoever is on the deck only increases profitability. As I understand the t...
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