B777X is a stopgap for current B777-300ER replacement. The 350-seat market is currently the largest one that majority of airlines wants. Bigger than that it becomes niche. the 78X handles this market at economics unapproachable by the competing frames. Now Boeing have 2 options here. Either expand ...
Jump to postWhat makes you believe Airbus will sit on their hands and do nothing if Boeing improves their 787? what can they do? In the Bloomberg article on production cost and market share they effectively threw in the towel in this product segment. Improving their model means dropping production costs signif...
Jump to postAlthough it's obviously not MCAS 1.0 bad it seems the NEO shares similar pitch issues as the MAX when it comes to strapping these larger, more powerful powerplants to an older airframe design. Seems like LH would do better to mandate more forward loading of baggage to protect the CG envelope rather...
Jump to postThis is to bypass the JVs. Ironically, their boosting of fares creates an opportunity for Moxie and JetBlue. The A223xLR will open up say South America to the USA. Mid size cities of the EU to BOS or IAD. DUB becomes a much more viable TATL hub (with the 2nd runway too). As an analogy, when JetBlue...
Jump to postIf we are looking at the fact. All Boeing's latest projects has been engulfed in serious problems. Starting with B787 and the battery that got it grounded worldwide for 4 months. The MAX disaster and groundings. And now B777X, while it's not serious yet, it might comes up in the future if we look a...
Jump to postpeople who cannot fly without their pet shouldn't fly excepting seeing eye dogs or other actual service animals
the pathology of the USA's pet fetish must be confronted
this plane will become a factor pretty quickly with that level of performance. any idea on what the payload is at those ranges?
the trend toward more capability in smaller aircraft continues unabated.
If we are looking at the fact. All Boeing's latest projects has been engulfed in serious problems. Starting with B787 and the battery that got it grounded worldwide for 4 months. The MAX disaster and groundings. And now B777X, while it's not serious yet, it might comes up in the future if we look a...
Jump to postCargo? It's charged by the oz. Or the g or whatever measure you want to specify. Why not people? If you don't want to weigh everyone then just put a weight surcharge on overweight passengers. Airlines don’t want to charge people by the kg. If they did, they would have to give a whole seat to a 4 ye...
Jump to postCan you contact LH and advise them that they are "insane"...seeing as they ordered the T1000 for 20x787-9s they ordered?? Given the in-service problems that this engine has had, I think a pretty clear case can be made for it. The airline of EK is trying to bail on an entire AB order bc of...
Jump to postOh, i wait for this comment. what about light passengers? should them paying less? yes. fat people are not entitled to have their excess weight subsidized by the thin. like cargo, airfare should be billed by distance and weight. I know you and many others have some fantasy scenario in your head whe...
Jump to postiMeh, and I suppose it comes down to some unknowns about the maintenance required for composite frames vs. aluminum long-term, but I would think the deferred C and D checks for metal fatigue by a good 5-10 years pending FAA and EASA reviews in the next half decade would make up the 30 million USD d...
Jump to postI don't see any need for them. Need should be quantifiable. Involving themselves with drunk passengers- we had drunks before 911 and they were dealt with, so the Marshals aren't at all "needed" for this. Their supposed presence isn't deterring serious terrorism or hijacks, tbh. there are m...
Jump to post[ The 339 is of course a stopgap for EK but it will ironically earn them the best profit margin of the frames they have on order (assuming they take no 787s) How does it beat the A350 on profit margin? it's very significantly cheaper to acquire. Like just judging by "market value" numbers...
Jump to postGosh. Where did all the posts go? An A330NEO "Bear" presumably. This 12 makes A330NEO orders for 2 months running, and 260 net orders by my calculation, with EK still to firm. Once deliveries stabilise I think the type will see plenty more orders. I suspect the A330NEO will be in producti...
Jump to postThe market will let him fly super jumbos, just not the 138 or so he had on order. There will be a draw down to profitability, but the issue is he still does have contracts signed for a large number of Whales with leases running many years out in to the future. https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/05...
Jump to postPerhaps you could claim discrimination based on sex, since men generally have larger body frames than women. '902 sex-based discrimination is treated with moderate scrutiny, as opposed to the strict that would be applied to race-based. Courts have accepted that there are legitimate and compelling g...
Jump to postHe's not looking for an engine; he wants a plane. The 350 is not that plane and neither is any other currently in-production frame. That's very unclear. What he doesn't want is to sign a contract at current (1) pricing and (2) levels of risk. He is trying to get OEMs to either sell him cheaper equi...
Jump to postI have no idea why Emirates does not have a huge fleet of GE powered 787-10's. Looking at Emirates route map 90% of the routes are within the 787-10's brochure range. Even better more than 50% of the routes are within the 787-10's range with maximum payload. So payload range is clearly not an issue...
Jump to postAnd there you go... Making the assumption that sinks you... Heavy doesnt necessarily mean fat. And nothing you said covers any of the points I've made before. Nor does an amusement park or skydiving fall under interstate commerce rules. Would you like to try again? Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using ...
Jump to postOk let me explain something... The second any public or private enterprise engaged in interstate commerce tries to charge a customer (note specifically customer in this case refers to a single person) more or less on body weight they are going to get smacked with a discrimination lawsuit, there are...
Jump to postThis is the type of biased nonsense that frustrates new visitors to the site. Clark's very first quoted comment in the Reuters article was directed at GE, but by hook or crook, RR is singled out for all sorts of ridicule. All this despite the fact that the Trent Xwb is by a country mile the most re...
Jump to postPassengers should be weighed. The accuracy of the CG calculation (and thus the safety of the fight) is more important than anyone feeling "fat shamed". Weighing all passengers takes an enormous amount of time (and money) but will not improve safety. As far as I know, not a single flight h...
Jump to postCan anyone explain why RR and Airbus are singled out in this thread?? It is quite fascinating to see. Yes...I am an Airbus fan...but also Boeing too...but the bias is not very pleasant from a so called aviation website. EK has received all deliveries from Boeing until the 779. At this point the LOI...
Jump to postSaab also has a history of delivering on contractual commitments on time, even for smaller production runs/lots. It's a bit of an unusual partnership, but both are working hard to remain tactical air prime vendors, and the collaboration probably makes a lot of sense as such. Boeing gambled pretty a...
Jump to postLet me preface this by saying it’s my opinion, but the worst thing Boeing has done was take over McDonnell Douglas and bring over their management. The phrases “lost their way” and “corporate raiders” were used extensively in my family, most who have worked for and retired from Boeing. The best mov...
Jump to postThey all lie. Der Spiegel, The New York Times, The Telegraph, The Guardian, FOX, CNN. They're all very selective with what facts they choose to tell, and what truths they omit - all creating a narrative that fits their world view. Der Spiegel? The operation that had an award-winning plagiarist and ...
Jump to postThey all lie. Der Spiegel, The New York Times, The Telegraph, The Guardian, FOX, CNN. They're all very selective with what facts they choose to tell, and what truths they omit - all creating a narrative that fits their world view. Der Spiegel? The operation that had an award-winning plagiarist and ...
Jump to postFor producing the palm oil, large parts of the Indonesian rain forest are cut down, that's why palm oil isn't sustainable. So a good thing the EU decided to limit t's import of this. production of cane ethanol in brazil has similar knock-on effects, creating monoculture biosphere regions and deplet...
Jump to postweren't these guys gonna stop all Max buys to punish boeing? Df they gonna buy then, mitsus?
Jump to postThis certainly will spell trouble for the 778..... perhaps relegating that frame to a freighter only variant. The A350-1000ULR has the chance to be the B777X killer, especially the B777-8 killer (which is already selling bad and will be soon likely be as dead as a Dodo). And what airlines do not wa...
Jump to postA359ULR isn't far behind with 19h and 789 with 17h. Soon the A35K and 778 will be 20h planes with close to 30t payload and far more efficient than A345 and 77L were. 789 goes over 17 routinely...nearly 18 actually on some of the westbound legs to Oz. SYD-LHR would seem to be closer to 21 or 22. I s...
Jump to postYes, like an alleged $38bn accounting fraud https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/general-electric-engaged-in-bigger-fraud-than-enron-whistleblower/articleshow/70712245.cms The guy who wrote the report is the same guy who was first onto Enron and Bernie Madoff fraud scams...
Jump to postCan you please provide some proof of your claims about the UA loads and fuel burn. Not sure it is helpful to keep making claims without back up. There is no need to provide proof we had a very long thread in tech ops over this, the real fuel burn data from the 787-9 and A359 were compared for the s...
Jump to postAll this talk of the improvements in the current -900, -1000 and the ULR variations makes me wonder what the A350-800 would be like if it was built now with all those improvements worked in. The -800 would still be too heavy compared to the 787-9 even with the improvements. That probably is a fault...
Jump to postAirbus A359ULR is an all premium seating aircraft that seats less than 160. So the A350k- ULR will seat 200 seats?? What will the range of a 200 seats 777- 8x be? Lets do the math. The 777-8 has a massive fuel capacity. The longer 777-9 with its fuel tanks fully filled can carry only 11t of payload...
Jump to postQuestion: What would be the order potential of the A350-1000ULR? Dozens of frames! Not dozens per month, or dozens per year - just dozens. Niche of a niche. Look at all the 777-200LRs and A345s sold! (Fewer than 100 combined.) lower. Maybe a dozen. The reason is that there are so many twins now wit...
Jump to postHmm, just did a quick back of the hand calculation - using that full 109kl centre tank plus 2X30kl = ~169kl capacity. That's 8T of extra fuel than a regular A35K. If we trade 80 passengers for that 8T of extra fuel, the range of A35K becomes ~9350nm @ 289 passengers (sea level take off, still air r...
Jump to postReducing range proportionally, you might get 7t extra payload out of the 12. That still improves economics. I'll use your numbers of a 12t MTOW increase giving 7t of payload requiring 5T of extra fuel. Lets compare the original 308t MTOW versus a higher 320t weight. Assuming a 155t empty weight for...
Jump to postWhy would all these airlines suddenly be interested in this frame when they were not in the base 35K? Extra range via increased tankage does not improve economics nor reduce the apparently excessive cost of the aircraft. Flying UULR is a niche endeavor. It does improve the economics significantly. ...
Jump to postA350 sold very well in the last 6 years. It has got 235 new orders in that period. That number gets hampered by the cancellations of EK, EY, and AA ( total of 134), but their cancellations merely mean that their orders in the 2007-2010 period should not have happened. That does not change the fact ...
Jump to postBoeing & Airbus are not just industrial entities, but also financial players. With B's & A's line-up streamlined, we now have a better view of their pawns on the chessboard. Specifically, with the demise of the A380 & perhaps that of the 778, A have every incentive to dent into the 77X,...
Jump to postWhere have you heard that the A35K is too expensive? Boeing PR department? Leeham. 789 costs 90M to build, 359 costs 110M. The 350 is not cost competitive. The 78x is a simple stretch, the 35K is a whole nuther airplane which costs even more than the 359. Why do you suppose the 359 has sold so poor...
Jump to postfigure more and more 89s will convert to 78X as time goes on and the RW performance of the jet becomes disseminated.
Jump to postWhy would all these airlines suddenly be interested in this frame when they were not in the base 35K? Extra range via increased tankage does not improve economics nor reduce the apparently excessive cost of the aircraft. Flying UULR is a niche endeavor.
Jump to post777-8 orders - Emirates : 35 - Qatar : 10 - Ethihad :8 That's it, nobody else over the last (booming) 5 years. If you have A359s on order, SQ flies 20 hour flights with them. QF does PER-LHR with a 787-9, what the usp? SQ isn't doing 20 hour flights. EK needs payload haul as does DL. QF needs the j...
Jump to postWe don't know key technical information. For example, the increased lift of the engine nacelles has been mentioned many many times, but it's not clear why that should change the stick gradient . If the nacelle behaves like an annular airfoil, annular airfoils tend to stall late, beyond the 15 or so...
Jump to postI would assume the 777-8 is on the way out with Emirates, maybe all together. Too heavy & expensive for EK long routes like LAX. 787-9s, A350’s can do the job at (significant) lower costs, risks https://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2019/06/06/delays-in-boeings-737-max-and-777x-could-weigh-on...
Jump to postI would assume the 777-8 is on the way out with Emirates, maybe all together. Too heavy & expensive for EK long routes like LAX. 787-9s, A350’s can do the job at (significant) lower costs, risks Smith said that Boeing is “looking at the timing and demand for the 777-8. the next variant, to see ...
Jump to postQuestion to those with the technical know-how: putting aside the financial side of things for a moment, if instead of creating and installing MCAS Boeing had simply designed the MAX without it and opted to tackle the different handling characteristics of the model by requiring additional training f...
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